Debating if i should unsubscribe

Debating if i should unsubscribe

[Chris Gilland]

For those of you who have not been on the reflecter much, or at all today, 
go ahead and delete this mail, as it'll do you know good to read it 
further, but for those who were on at the same time as I:

look:  i know that I can be a brat at times, OK, yeah, I know I was cutting 
people off tonight, but what do you all expect! it was out of my control! i 
sat here and purposely told you all over and over and over and over that 
you all were not coming through, and that you were breaking up 
terribly...  i even wrote it out in a text chat...  You all can't give me 
the excuse either that it was windows cutting up on me as no it wasn't. I 
wasn't even in! windows at the time, so don't even start...  What was I 
supposed to do! i had no indication that I was interupting, and when I told 
you all to write me in a text chat, no one even dared to ablige, so don't 
you all be blaming me for something I cannot help, OK?  i'm trying damn 
hard to keep my cool, but i'm really about at my thread!  i was gonna shut 
up and not say this on list, but i think after all I will...  i thought 
Linux was an open source quote: project, not OS. i thought we were supposed 
to quote: help each other? not put each other down by scolding?  Yeah yeah, 
go head, give the usual, Chris, you're outta line, you're over reacting, ah 
save it! it'll do no good...  i'm gonna be honest, so if yall don't wanna 
hear it, then hit the D key and delete, see if I care...  and this about 
mayking me echo back to talk to myself on the reflecter, may or may not be 
accidental, but if it's not, then you let me tell yall something: that is 
ver'r'ry immature, and I do not! appreciate it... again, should that be 
ententionally done... I know it's rude to interupt people: I'm not stupid! 
but what can I do! so, unless I get some apologies over here, especially 
from one person I hung up on tonight, my journey on the reflecter and this 
list both! is finnished and final! close the Bible on it, it's done! End of 
discussion! I rest my case, and will now say absolutely no more, as I have 
nothing more to say to you all...  In fact, I'm so livid, I won't even 
close by signing my name, you don't know who this is? look on the from line 
header you dodo!

Re: Debating if i should unsubscribe

[kevin]

I am so proud of you!  I am in the same boat as you.  I have recieved
rudeness and nothing but!  What in the hell kind of comunity is this anyway?
Kevin
email:
kjsisco@rcn.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Gilland" <chris@mailvision.ath.cx>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 5:53 PM
Subject: Debating if i should unsubscribe


> For those of you who have not been on the reflecter much, or at all today,
> go ahead and delete this mail, as it'll do you know good to read it
> further, but for those who were on at the same time as I:
>
> look:  i know that I can be a brat at times, OK, yeah, I know I was
cutting
> people off tonight, but what do you all expect! it was out of my control!
i
> sat here and purposely told you all over and over and over and over that
> you all were not coming through, and that you were breaking up
> terribly...  i even wrote it out in a text chat...  You all can't give me
> the excuse either that it was windows cutting up on me as no it wasn't. I
> wasn't even in! windows at the time, so don't even start...  What was I
> supposed to do! i had no indication that I was interupting, and when I
told
> you all to write me in a text chat, no one even dared to ablige, so don't
> you all be blaming me for something I cannot help, OK?  i'm trying damn
> hard to keep my cool, but i'm really about at my thread!  i was gonna shut
> up and not say this on list, but i think after all I will...  i thought
> Linux was an open source quote: project, not OS. i thought we were
supposed
> to quote: help each other? not put each other down by scolding?  Yeah
yeah,
> go head, give the usual, Chris, you're outta line, you're over reacting,
ah
> save it! it'll do no good...  i'm gonna be honest, so if yall don't wanna
> hear it, then hit the D key and delete, see if I care...  and this about
> mayking me echo back to talk to myself on the reflecter, may or may not be
> accidental, but if it's not, then you let me tell yall something: that is
> ver'r'ry immature, and I do not! appreciate it... again, should that be
> ententionally done... I know it's rude to interupt people: I'm not stupid!
> but what can I do! so, unless I get some apologies over here, especially
> from one person I hung up on tonight, my journey on the reflecter and this
> list both! is finnished and final! close the Bible on it, it's done! End
of
> discussion! I rest my case, and will now say absolutely no more, as I have
> nothing more to say to you all...  In fact, I'm so livid, I won't even
> close by signing my name, you don't know who this is? look on the from
line
> header you dodo!
>
>
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Re: Debating if i should unsubscribe

[Scott Howell]

Well Kevin I can say this is a community with some very fine folks. I 
can't say what happen to Chris as I wasn't there, but to this day you 
still have not followed through on the questions and request I made to 
you. In fact I think you have simply just ignored me. Most of us and 
especially those I know very well are very helpful and open to folks 
until they start playing games. I again don't know what happen to Chris, 
but Chris maybe step back a minute and then give it another shot.

Best of luck,

Scott


On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 07:12:54PM -0500, kevin wrote:
> I am so proud of you!  I am in the same boat as you.  I have recieved
> rudeness and nothing but!  What in the hell kind of comunity is this anyway?
> Kevin
> email:
> kjsisco@rcn.com
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chris Gilland" <chris@mailvision.ath.cx>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 5:53 PM
> Subject: Debating if i should unsubscribe
> 
> 
> > For those of you who have not been on the reflecter much, or at all today,
> > go ahead and delete this mail, as it'll do you know good to read it
> > further, but for those who were on at the same time as I:
> >
> > look:  i know that I can be a brat at times, OK, yeah, I know I was
> cutting
> > people off tonight, but what do you all expect! it was out of my control!
> i
> > sat here and purposely told you all over and over and over and over that
> > you all were not coming through, and that you were breaking up
> > terribly...  i even wrote it out in a text chat...  You all can't give me
> > the excuse either that it was windows cutting up on me as no it wasn't. I
> > wasn't even in! windows at the time, so don't even start...  What was I
> > supposed to do! i had no indication that I was interupting, and when I
> told
> > you all to write me in a text chat, no one even dared to ablige, so don't
> > you all be blaming me for something I cannot help, OK?  i'm trying damn
> > hard to keep my cool, but i'm really about at my thread!  i was gonna shut
> > up and not say this on list, but i think after all I will...  i thought
> > Linux was an open source quote: project, not OS. i thought we were
> supposed
> > to quote: help each other? not put each other down by scolding?  Yeah
> yeah,
> > go head, give the usual, Chris, you're outta line, you're over reacting,
> ah
> > save it! it'll do no good...  i'm gonna be honest, so if yall don't wanna
> > hear it, then hit the D key and delete, see if I care...  and this about
> > mayking me echo back to talk to myself on the reflecter, may or may not be
> > accidental, but if it's not, then you let me tell yall something: that is
> > ver'r'ry immature, and I do not! appreciate it... again, should that be
> > ententionally done... I know it's rude to interupt people: I'm not stupid!
> > but what can I do! so, unless I get some apologies over here, especially
> > from one person I hung up on tonight, my journey on the reflecter and this
> > list both! is finnished and final! close the Bible on it, it's done! End
> of
> > discussion! I rest my case, and will now say absolutely no more, as I have
> > nothing more to say to you all...  In fact, I'm so livid, I won't even
> > close by signing my name, you don't know who this is? look on the from
> line
> > header you dodo!
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Debating if i should unsubscribe

[Chris Gilland]

At 09:00 PM 11/6/2003, you wrote:
>Well Kevin I can say this is a community with some very fine folks. I
>can't say what happen to Chris as I wasn't there, but to this day you
>still have not followed through on the questions and request I made to
>you. In fact I think you have simply just ignored me. Most of us and
>especially those I know very well are very helpful and open to folks

OK then?  Show and prove it for once!



>until they start playing games.


Games?  uaaa!  How! rude!




>  I again don't know what happen to Chris,
>but Chris maybe step back a minute and then give it another shot.


Ohuhwa:  Give it another shot? Do you realize what you just told me to 
do?  N'n'not after you all specificly scold me, and yell at me, and some of 
which even cuss at me...

i may a pushed an apology outta one person, who I emmed me last night while 
I was asleep, which BTW: i'm still awaiting to hear...

but to step back? Especially when you all may or may not a perposely set me 
up for a loopback on the reflecter? Now, I'm not saying that was done 
ententionally, don't get me wrong here, but if it was, then again i say, 
talk! about immature! I thought if that is the case, that yall would be a 
little more professional than that...


Anyway,


Chris.

Re: Debating if i should unsubscribe

[kevin]

Realy, maturity is the key!  Let us act with the maturity of the adults you
claim to be
Kevin
email:
kjsisco@rcn.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Gilland" <chris@mailvision.ath.cx>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 5:43 AM
Subject: Re: Debating if i should unsubscribe


> At 09:00 PM 11/6/2003, you wrote:
> >Well Kevin I can say this is a community with some very fine folks. I
> >can't say what happen to Chris as I wasn't there, but to this day you
> >still have not followed through on the questions and request I made to
> >you. In fact I think you have simply just ignored me. Most of us and
> >especially those I know very well are very helpful and open to folks
>
> OK then?  Show and prove it for once!
>
>
>
> >until they start playing games.
>
>
> Games?  uaaa!  How! rude!
>
>
>
>
> >  I again don't know what happen to Chris,
> >but Chris maybe step back a minute and then give it another shot.
>
>
> Ohuhwa:  Give it another shot? Do you realize what you just told me to
> do?  N'n'not after you all specificly scold me, and yell at me, and some
of
> which even cuss at me...
>
> i may a pushed an apology outta one person, who I emmed me last night
while
> I was asleep, which BTW: i'm still awaiting to hear...
>
> but to step back? Especially when you all may or may not a perposely set
me
> up for a loopback on the reflecter? Now, I'm not saying that was done
> ententionally, don't get me wrong here, but if it was, then again i say,
> talk! about immature! I thought if that is the case, that yall would be a
> little more professional than that...
>
>
> Anyway,
>
>
> Chris.
>
>
>
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Re: Debating if i should unsubscribe

[kevin]

I have not ignored you.
I am not playing games.
I have answered all of your questions.
Now I have recieved pure crap.  Yes folks...utter bullshit
Kevin
email:
kjsisco@rcn.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Scott Howell" <showell@lrxms.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: Debating if i should unsubscribe


> Well Kevin I can say this is a community with some very fine folks. I
> can't say what happen to Chris as I wasn't there, but to this day you
> still have not followed through on the questions and request I made to
> you. In fact I think you have simply just ignored me. Most of us and
> especially those I know very well are very helpful and open to folks
> until they start playing games. I again don't know what happen to Chris,
> but Chris maybe step back a minute and then give it another shot.
>
> Best of luck,
>
> Scott
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 07:12:54PM -0500, kevin wrote:
> > I am so proud of you!  I am in the same boat as you.  I have recieved
> > rudeness and nothing but!  What in the hell kind of comunity is this
anyway?
> > Kevin
> > email:
> > kjsisco@rcn.com
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Chris Gilland" <chris@mailvision.ath.cx>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 5:53 PM
> > Subject: Debating if i should unsubscribe
> >
> >
> > > For those of you who have not been on the reflecter much, or at all
today,
> > > go ahead and delete this mail, as it'll do you know good to read it
> > > further, but for those who were on at the same time as I:
> > >
> > > look:  i know that I can be a brat at times, OK, yeah, I know I was
> > cutting
> > > people off tonight, but what do you all expect! it was out of my
control!
> > i
> > > sat here and purposely told you all over and over and over and over
that
> > > you all were not coming through, and that you were breaking up
> > > terribly...  i even wrote it out in a text chat...  You all can't give
me
> > > the excuse either that it was windows cutting up on me as no it
wasn't. I
> > > wasn't even in! windows at the time, so don't even start...  What was
I
> > > supposed to do! i had no indication that I was interupting, and when I
> > told
> > > you all to write me in a text chat, no one even dared to ablige, so
don't
> > > you all be blaming me for something I cannot help, OK?  i'm trying
damn
> > > hard to keep my cool, but i'm really about at my thread!  i was gonna
shut
> > > up and not say this on list, but i think after all I will...  i
thought
> > > Linux was an open source quote: project, not OS. i thought we were
> > supposed
> > > to quote: help each other? not put each other down by scolding?  Yeah
> > yeah,
> > > go head, give the usual, Chris, you're outta line, you're over
reacting,
> > ah
> > > save it! it'll do no good...  i'm gonna be honest, so if yall don't
wanna
> > > hear it, then hit the D key and delete, see if I care...  and this
about
> > > mayking me echo back to talk to myself on the reflecter, may or may
not be
> > > accidental, but if it's not, then you let me tell yall something: that
is
> > > ver'r'ry immature, and I do not! appreciate it... again, should that
be
> > > ententionally done... I know it's rude to interupt people: I'm not
stupid!
> > > but what can I do! so, unless I get some apologies over here,
especially
> > > from one person I hung up on tonight, my journey on the reflecter and
this
> > > list both! is finnished and final! close the Bible on it, it's done!
End
> > of
> > > discussion! I rest my case, and will now say absolutely no more, as I
have
> > > nothing more to say to you all...  In fact, I'm so livid, I won't even
> > > close by signing my name, you don't know who this is? look on the from
> > line
> > > header you dodo!
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
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Re: Debating if i should unsubscribe

[Geoff Shang]

On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, kevin wrote:

> I have not ignored you.
> I am not playing games.
> I have answered all of your questions.

huh?  When!  Many of us, myself included, asked you time and again to tell
us in plain English exactly what you had done and where exactly we could
download it.  This was never answered.  I personally decided that it was no
loss to me if you weren't going to tell me where I could download your
software, so I gave up asking.
Geoff.

Re: Debating if i should unsubscribe

[kevin]

I have answered that question twice!
Kevin
email:
kjsisco@rcn.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Geoff Shang" <gshang@uq.net.au>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: Debating if i should unsubscribe


> On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, kevin wrote:
>
> > I have not ignored you.
> > I am not playing games.
> > I have answered all of your questions.
>
> huh?  When!  Many of us, myself included, asked you time and again to tell
> us in plain English exactly what you had done and where exactly we could
> download it.  This was never answered.  I personally decided that it was
no
> loss to me if you weren't going to tell me where I could download your
> software, so I gave up asking.
> Geoff.
>
>
>
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Re: Debating if i should unsubscribe

[Jes and guide dog Harley]

Folks, I would strongly suggest you disregard this entire thread. let's just get on with business, and I'll talk to Chris about
this privately. IF you hear any more about this thread from him, unless it's an apology of some sort, I suggest you not read it.
Jes

Re: Debating if i should unsubscribe

[kevin]

Who made you the boss?
Kevin
email:
kjsisco@rcn.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jes and guide dog Harley" <jesman598@triad.rr.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: Debating if i should unsubscribe


> Folks, I would strongly suggest you disregard this entire thread. let's
just get on with business, and I'll talk to Chris about
> this privately. IF you hear any more about this thread from him, unless
it's an apology of some sort, I suggest you not read it.
> Jes
>
>
>
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Re: Debating if i should unsubscribe

[Shaun Oliver]

at the risk of being helpful, kevin delivered up the following on Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 07:12:54PM -0500, 
> I am so proud of you!  I am in the same boat as you.  I have recieved
> rudeness and nothing but!  What in the hell kind of comunity is this anyway?
*SNIP*

I swore I wouldn't post but I just can't help myself.

chris, do us all a favour and piss off.
a few of us have tryed to help you myself included.
only to find you not only want us to pour the water into the glass for
you but fucking drink it as well!?
if you ain't prepared to go away and read documentation and come back
with questions, or state hey I sorted it out all by my little self, then
you might as well go back to using windows.
they'll not only drink the water poured out for you, they'll even take a
piss and a complimentory dump, and ask if you're sure you'd like to
proceed.
just click yes and it'll even whipe your arse when you're done.
we'er not here to hand hold, nore are we here to give praise when praise
is so obviously not deserving.

kevin and chris, you would do us a great service if you did unsubscribe.
but I know damn well neither of you will.
why?
it's simple, both of you want to know when something's being said about
you. or directed at you. you can't help yourselves,
it's people like you that drag the community we work so hard to maintain
into disrepute. I'll never unsubscribe because I know at some point what
I say is worth at the very least $0.20 and that 20 cents worth counts
for something when it's greatfully received.
kevin, again you've done nothing to prove the existants of this  brave
new inovation for alsatools, and chris, all you want is to be hand held
and not learn anything. LInux isn't like that.
you either do or die.
and guys, you're both so dead you're stank.
chris go away and read some docs and fucking well learn something.
and come back when you've absorbed something in that pea sized brain of
yours.
and kevin do some actual programming rather than spuing forth copeus
amounts of pure unadulterated bull shit.
I've had enough of the whingers and whyners and complainers on this
list. if you're not prepared to do a little reading in the first place
then it's your own fault when it all goes pair shaped.
read read read!
ask questions sure but be prepared to READ!
this is all I'll say. I'm even stunned that such crap was even posted
here.
the pair of you grow up.




-- 
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Re: Debating if i should unsubscribe

[Chris Gilland]

You wanna make a bet i won't unsubscribe? tell me how, and i'll do it!


'w'w'w'watch me!


kevin, if you'd like, write me again off list, i'm gonna set up a list on 
topica, for linux newbies, and believe me:  none of these guys will be on it...


They think that i've got the time to sit on my buddix all day, and do 
nothing more than swipe through mail to see if I'm being talked 
about...  Quite frankly, i love myself, and that is what matters:  I don't 
care what others think...  Quite frankly, I feel that no one should judge 
your feelings, so kevin, if you're ever upset and feeling down, tell me! I 
wanna know about it, so I can share the pain, as a friend...  If you are 
happy about something, i wanna know so I can share your joy...  That's just 
the type person that I am...  I mean no harm to anyone, but when people 
start bushing around with me, and start telling me to quote: piss off, and 
to quote: take a cup, p in it, then drink it...  that will not be 
tollerated under my standards, nor should it be...  Again, I'll very 
clearly state, I might be a jerk at times, but does this mean that yall 
have to come back at me with negativity?

i really don't see where I've done all that much wrong...  and besides, 
what does my mail i sent last night have to do with reading documentation, 
and when did I say I wasn't willing to read it...  Can one of you all quote 
no... better... paste! from an exact e-mail, where I deliveretly said:  I 
will not read documentation.  i challenge anyone to fulfill that request...

i'm not gonna keep arguing...  So... really... this is the end, 
period...  yall can write all you want on this topic, but unless you all 
have something positive to say about it, I'm just gonna sit back and lerk, 
until I find out how to unsubscribe, at which point, I'll be doing so...

Good luck to all yall.


Chris.

Re: Debating if i should unsubscribe

[kevin]

Thank you, that means alot to me.  I have had to put up with the same
bullshit and will be emailing you off list.
Kevin
email:
kjsisco@rcn.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Gilland" <chris@mailvision.ath.cx>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 6:18 AM
Subject: Re: Debating if i should unsubscribe


> You wanna make a bet i won't unsubscribe? tell me how, and i'll do it!
>
>
> 'w'w'w'watch me!
>
>
> kevin, if you'd like, write me again off list, i'm gonna set up a list on
> topica, for linux newbies, and believe me:  none of these guys will be on
it...
>
>
> They think that i've got the time to sit on my buddix all day, and do
> nothing more than swipe through mail to see if I'm being talked
> about...  Quite frankly, i love myself, and that is what matters:  I don't
> care what others think...  Quite frankly, I feel that no one should judge
> your feelings, so kevin, if you're ever upset and feeling down, tell me! I
> wanna know about it, so I can share the pain, as a friend...  If you are
> happy about something, i wanna know so I can share your joy...  That's
just
> the type person that I am...  I mean no harm to anyone, but when people
> start bushing around with me, and start telling me to quote: piss off, and
> to quote: take a cup, p in it, then drink it...  that will not be
> tollerated under my standards, nor should it be...  Again, I'll very
> clearly state, I might be a jerk at times, but does this mean that yall
> have to come back at me with negativity?
>
> i really don't see where I've done all that much wrong...  and besides,
> what does my mail i sent last night have to do with reading documentation,
> and when did I say I wasn't willing to read it...  Can one of you all
quote
> no... better... paste! from an exact e-mail, where I deliveretly said:  I
> will not read documentation.  i challenge anyone to fulfill that
request...
>
> i'm not gonna keep arguing...  So... really... this is the end,
> period...  yall can write all you want on this topic, but unless you all
> have something positive to say about it, I'm just gonna sit back and lerk,
> until I find out how to unsubscribe, at which point, I'll be doing so...
>
> Good luck to all yall.
>
>
> Chris.
>
>
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Re: Debating if i should unsubscribe

[Rejean Proulx]

Why should we care if someone wants to unsubscribe.  It is a free country
and you come and go as you like.  I certainly don't lose sleep over is
someone subscribes to speakup or not and no one should, so stay, go, but
stop talking about it.  As you can see, I'm a man of action.

 Rejean Proulx
Visit my family at http://interfree.ca
MSN is: rejp@rogers.com
Ham License VA3REJ

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "kevin" <kjsisco@rcn.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: Debating if i should unsubscribe


> Thank you, that means alot to me.  I have had to put up with the same
> bullshit and will be emailing you off list.
> Kevin
> email:
> kjsisco@rcn.com
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Chris Gilland" <chris@mailvision.ath.cx>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."
<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 6:18 AM
> Subject: Re: Debating if i should unsubscribe
>
>
> > You wanna make a bet i won't unsubscribe? tell me how, and i'll do it!
> >
> >
> > 'w'w'w'watch me!
> >
> >
> > kevin, if you'd like, write me again off list, i'm gonna set up a list
on
> > topica, for linux newbies, and believe me:  none of these guys will be
on
> it...
> >
> >
> > They think that i've got the time to sit on my buddix all day, and do
> > nothing more than swipe through mail to see if I'm being talked
> > about...  Quite frankly, i love myself, and that is what matters:  I
don't
> > care what others think...  Quite frankly, I feel that no one should
judge
> > your feelings, so kevin, if you're ever upset and feeling down, tell me!
I
> > wanna know about it, so I can share the pain, as a friend...  If you are
> > happy about something, i wanna know so I can share your joy...  That's
> just
> > the type person that I am...  I mean no harm to anyone, but when people
> > start bushing around with me, and start telling me to quote: piss off,
and
> > to quote: take a cup, p in it, then drink it...  that will not be
> > tollerated under my standards, nor should it be...  Again, I'll very
> > clearly state, I might be a jerk at times, but does this mean that yall
> > have to come back at me with negativity?
> >
> > i really don't see where I've done all that much wrong...  and besides,
> > what does my mail i sent last night have to do with reading
documentation,
> > and when did I say I wasn't willing to read it...  Can one of you all
> quote
> > no... better... paste! from an exact e-mail, where I deliveretly said:
I
> > will not read documentation.  i challenge anyone to fulfill that
> request...
> >
> > i'm not gonna keep arguing...  So... really... this is the end,
> > period...  yall can write all you want on this topic, but unless you all
> > have something positive to say about it, I'm just gonna sit back and
lerk,
> > until I find out how to unsubscribe, at which point, I'll be doing so...
> >
> > Good luck to all yall.
> >
> >
> > Chris.
> >
> >
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Re: Debating if i should unsubscribe

[Luke Davis]

On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Chris Gilland wrote:

> You wanna make a bet i won't unsubscribe? tell me how, and i'll do it!

That's what their talking about with documentation: there is a little
document at the end of every single message from this list, containing the
URL that will let you unsubscribe.  If that wasn't enough, each message
header contains the unsubscription addresses, which any competent email
program will know how to parse.
Have you read it?  No, I suppose not, or you would not have made such an
absurd statement.

Luke

Re: Debating if i should unsubscribe

[kevin]

I hope you got some top-of-the-line shovel for that pile of bullshit you got
sitting at your feet.
This "do or die" theory of yours makes me laugh!  This is supposed to be a
friendly comunity.
I realize this is hard to grasp so let me simplify things.
You see, people are supposed to...hmmm...help each other out?  Even as
programmers you need to help the less knoledgable.
Now, in my case, it is just the fact that you are plane unexcepting of my
cause.
It all boils down to this:
grow the fuck up!
Kevin
email:
kjsisco@rcn.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Shaun Oliver" <shaun_oliver@optusnet.com.au>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 11:05 PM
Subject: Re: Debating if i should unsubscribe


> at the risk of being helpful, kevin delivered up the following on Thu, Nov
06, 2003 at 07:12:54PM -0500,
> > I am so proud of you!  I am in the same boat as you.  I have recieved
> > rudeness and nothing but!  What in the hell kind of comunity is this
anyway?
> *SNIP*
>
> I swore I wouldn't post but I just can't help myself.
>
> chris, do us all a favour and piss off.
> a few of us have tryed to help you myself included.
> only to find you not only want us to pour the water into the glass for
> you but fucking drink it as well!?
> if you ain't prepared to go away and read documentation and come back
> with questions, or state hey I sorted it out all by my little self, then
> you might as well go back to using windows.
> they'll not only drink the water poured out for you, they'll even take a
> piss and a complimentory dump, and ask if you're sure you'd like to
> proceed.
> just click yes and it'll even whipe your arse when you're done.
> we'er not here to hand hold, nore are we here to give praise when praise
> is so obviously not deserving.
>
> kevin and chris, you would do us a great service if you did unsubscribe.
> but I know damn well neither of you will.
> why?
> it's simple, both of you want to know when something's being said about
> you. or directed at you. you can't help yourselves,
> it's people like you that drag the community we work so hard to maintain
> into disrepute. I'll never unsubscribe because I know at some point what
> I say is worth at the very least $0.20 and that 20 cents worth counts
> for something when it's greatfully received.
> kevin, again you've done nothing to prove the existants of this  brave
> new inovation for alsatools, and chris, all you want is to be hand held
> and not learn anything. LInux isn't like that.
> you either do or die.
> and guys, you're both so dead you're stank.
> chris go away and read some docs and fucking well learn something.
> and come back when you've absorbed something in that pea sized brain of
> yours.
> and kevin do some actual programming rather than spuing forth copeus
> amounts of pure unadulterated bull shit.
> I've had enough of the whingers and whyners and complainers on this
> list. if you're not prepared to do a little reading in the first place
> then it's your own fault when it all goes pair shaped.
> read read read!
> ask questions sure but be prepared to READ!
> this is all I'll say. I'm even stunned that such crap was even posted
> here.
> the pair of you grow up.
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Shaun Oliver
> "Becareful of the toes u step on today, they maybe connected to the ass
you have to kiss tomorrow!"
>
> EMAIL: shaun_oliver@optusnet.com.au
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Re: Debating if i should unsubscribe

[Rejean Proulx]

I thought dog fights were not legal, but these are both adults so its ok.
This is about as close to Roman gladiators as you'll get.  lol

 Rejean Proulx
Visit my family at http://interfree.ca
MSN is: rejp@rogers.com
Ham License VA3REJ

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "kevin" <kjsisco@rcn.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: Debating if i should unsubscribe


> I hope you got some top-of-the-line shovel for that pile of bullshit you
got
> sitting at your feet.
> This "do or die" theory of yours makes me laugh!  This is supposed to be a
> friendly comunity.
> I realize this is hard to grasp so let me simplify things.
> You see, people are supposed to...hmmm...help each other out?  Even as
> programmers you need to help the less knoledgable.
> Now, in my case, it is just the fact that you are plane unexcepting of my
> cause.
> It all boils down to this:
> grow the fuck up!
> Kevin
> email:
> kjsisco@rcn.com
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Shaun Oliver" <shaun_oliver@optusnet.com.au>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."
<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 11:05 PM
> Subject: Re: Debating if i should unsubscribe
>
>
> > at the risk of being helpful, kevin delivered up the following on Thu,
Nov
> 06, 2003 at 07:12:54PM -0500,
> > > I am so proud of you!  I am in the same boat as you.  I have recieved
> > > rudeness and nothing but!  What in the hell kind of comunity is this
> anyway?
> > *SNIP*
> >
> > I swore I wouldn't post but I just can't help myself.
> >
> > chris, do us all a favour and piss off.
> > a few of us have tryed to help you myself included.
> > only to find you not only want us to pour the water into the glass for
> > you but fucking drink it as well!?
> > if you ain't prepared to go away and read documentation and come back
> > with questions, or state hey I sorted it out all by my little self, then
> > you might as well go back to using windows.
> > they'll not only drink the water poured out for you, they'll even take a
> > piss and a complimentory dump, and ask if you're sure you'd like to
> > proceed.
> > just click yes and it'll even whipe your arse when you're done.
> > we'er not here to hand hold, nore are we here to give praise when praise
> > is so obviously not deserving.
> >
> > kevin and chris, you would do us a great service if you did unsubscribe.
> > but I know damn well neither of you will.
> > why?
> > it's simple, both of you want to know when something's being said about
> > you. or directed at you. you can't help yourselves,
> > it's people like you that drag the community we work so hard to maintain
> > into disrepute. I'll never unsubscribe because I know at some point what
> > I say is worth at the very least $0.20 and that 20 cents worth counts
> > for something when it's greatfully received.
> > kevin, again you've done nothing to prove the existants of this  brave
> > new inovation for alsatools, and chris, all you want is to be hand held
> > and not learn anything. LInux isn't like that.
> > you either do or die.
> > and guys, you're both so dead you're stank.
> > chris go away and read some docs and fucking well learn something.
> > and come back when you've absorbed something in that pea sized brain of
> > yours.
> > and kevin do some actual programming rather than spuing forth copeus
> > amounts of pure unadulterated bull shit.
> > I've had enough of the whingers and whyners and complainers on this
> > list. if you're not prepared to do a little reading in the first place
> > then it's your own fault when it all goes pair shaped.
> > read read read!
> > ask questions sure but be prepared to READ!
> > this is all I'll say. I'm even stunned that such crap was even posted
> > here.
> > the pair of you grow up.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -- 
> > Shaun Oliver
> > "Becareful of the toes u step on today, they maybe connected to the ass
> you have to kiss tomorrow!"
> >
> > EMAIL: shaun_oliver@optusnet.com.au
> > ICQ: 76958435
> > YAHOO: blindman01_2000
> > MSN: blindman_2001@hotmail.com
> > AIM: captain nemo 200
> > IRC: irc.awesomechat.net:6666
> > IRCNICK: blindman
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#audiofile
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Re: Debating if i should unsubscribe

[Chris Gilland]

Well, kevin, granted, with the Alsa drivers, you didn't exactly make it 
very clear as to what they did, I'll admit that, however, I still agree 
with you that people can be quite rude...  Tell ya what:  if you'll write 
me privately, off list, and I'll give you my addi here in a second, maybe 
you and I together could work on the documentation and try to get it 
looking really neet, so that most people can understand it...  By the way: 
I don't mean that as an insult that you didn't do a good job, I'd love to 
see what you've done, but without very clear documentation, it makes it 
somewhat hard...  Again though as I said: maybe if you could explain to me 
step by step off list what exactly are the main highlight differences, we 
can go from there, and try to make it a bit more clear...

You take care bro...


Chris.

Re: Debating if i should unsubscribe

[Chris Gilland]

Ooops?

Sorry Kevin, I mearly forgot to give you my e-mail...

Sorry bout that my friend...

it's:

chris@mailvision.ath.cx

Chris.

At 05:34 AM 11/7/2003, you wrote:
>Well, kevin, granted, with the Alsa drivers, you didn't exactly make it 
>very clear as to what they did, I'll admit that, however, I still agree 
>with you that people can be quite rude...  Tell ya what:  if you'll write 
>me privately, off list, and I'll give you my addi here in a second, maybe 
>you and I together could work on the documentation and try to get it 
>looking really neet, so that most people can understand it...  By the way: 
>I don't mean that as an insult that you didn't do a good job, I'd love to 
>see what you've done, but without very clear documentation, it makes it 
>somewhat hard...  Again though as I said: maybe if you could explain to me 
>step by step off list what exactly are the main highlight differences, we 
>can go from there, and try to make it a bit more clear...
>
>You take care bro...
>
>
>Chris.
>
>
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Re: Debating if i should unsubscribe

[kevin]

I certainly will email you off list about it
Kevin
email:
kjsisco@rcn.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Gilland" <chris@mailvision.ath.cx>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 5:34 AM
Subject: Re: Debating if i should unsubscribe


> Well, kevin, granted, with the Alsa drivers, you didn't exactly make it
> very clear as to what they did, I'll admit that, however, I still agree
> with you that people can be quite rude...  Tell ya what:  if you'll write
> me privately, off list, and I'll give you my addi here in a second, maybe
> you and I together could work on the documentation and try to get it
> looking really neet, so that most people can understand it...  By the way:
> I don't mean that as an insult that you didn't do a good job, I'd love to
> see what you've done, but without very clear documentation, it makes it
> somewhat hard...  Again though as I said: maybe if you could explain to me
> step by step off list what exactly are the main highlight differences, we
> can go from there, and try to make it a bit more clear...
>
> You take care bro...
>
>
> Chris.
>
>
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Re: Debating if i should unsubscribe

[Erik Heil]

hey Chris.  What do you need help with?  B/c I have a Slackware box right
now and apparently it doesn't like one of the network cards in this machine.
When I bring up eth0 or eth1, it locks up the entire system.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Gilland" <chris@mailvision.ath.cx>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 5:53 PM
Subject: Debating if i should unsubscribe


> For those of you who have not been on the reflecter much, or at all today,
> go ahead and delete this mail, as it'll do you know good to read it
> further, but for those who were on at the same time as I:
>
> look:  i know that I can be a brat at times, OK, yeah, I know I was
cutting
> people off tonight, but what do you all expect! it was out of my control!
i
> sat here and purposely told you all over and over and over and over that
> you all were not coming through, and that you were breaking up
> terribly...  i even wrote it out in a text chat...  You all can't give me
> the excuse either that it was windows cutting up on me as no it wasn't. I
> wasn't even in! windows at the time, so don't even start...  What was I
> supposed to do! i had no indication that I was interupting, and when I
told
> you all to write me in a text chat, no one even dared to ablige, so don't
> you all be blaming me for something I cannot help, OK?  i'm trying damn
> hard to keep my cool, but i'm really about at my thread!  i was gonna shut
> up and not say this on list, but i think after all I will...  i thought
> Linux was an open source quote: project, not OS. i thought we were
supposed
> to quote: help each other? not put each other down by scolding?  Yeah
yeah,
> go head, give the usual, Chris, you're outta line, you're over reacting,
ah
> save it! it'll do no good...  i'm gonna be honest, so if yall don't wanna
> hear it, then hit the D key and delete, see if I care...  and this about
> mayking me echo back to talk to myself on the reflecter, may or may not be
> accidental, but if it's not, then you let me tell yall something: that is
> ver'r'ry immature, and I do not! appreciate it... again, should that be
> ententionally done... I know it's rude to interupt people: I'm not stupid!
> but what can I do! so, unless I get some apologies over here, especially
> from one person I hung up on tonight, my journey on the reflecter and this
> list both! is finnished and final! close the Bible on it, it's done! End
of
> discussion! I rest my case, and will now say absolutely no more, as I have
> nothing more to say to you all...  In fact, I'm so livid, I won't even
> close by signing my name, you don't know who this is? look on the from
line
> header you dodo!
>
>
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Re: Debating if i should unsubscribe

[Chris Gilland]

Then... how are you writing me e-mail right now if you can't get your 
internet ethernet devices working...  See? i'm not that far blown, I know! 
/dev/eth0 is your first ethernet adapter, and then is /dev/eth1 and so 
on...  I'm assuming that you have a whole other box that you're doing the 
e-mail thing on?  If not, then face it, you're caught.


Chris.

At 08:45 PM 11/6/2003, you wrote:
>hey Chris.  What do you need help with?  B/c I have a Slackware box right
>now and apparently it doesn't like one of the network cards in this machine.
>When I bring up eth0 or eth1, it locks up the entire system.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Chris Gilland" <chris@mailvision.ath.cx>
>To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 5:53 PM
>Subject: Debating if i should unsubscribe
>
>
> > For those of you who have not been on the reflecter much, or at all today,
> > go ahead and delete this mail, as it'll do you know good to read it
> > further, but for those who were on at the same time as I:
> >
> > look:  i know that I can be a brat at times, OK, yeah, I know I was
>cutting
> > people off tonight, but what do you all expect! it was out of my control!
>i
> > sat here and purposely told you all over and over and over and over that
> > you all were not coming through, and that you were breaking up
> > terribly...  i even wrote it out in a text chat...  You all can't give me
> > the excuse either that it was windows cutting up on me as no it wasn't. I
> > wasn't even in! windows at the time, so don't even start...  What was I
> > supposed to do! i had no indication that I was interupting, and when I
>told
> > you all to write me in a text chat, no one even dared to ablige, so don't
> > you all be blaming me for something I cannot help, OK?  i'm trying damn
> > hard to keep my cool, but i'm really about at my thread!  i was gonna shut
> > up and not say this on list, but i think after all I will...  i thought
> > Linux was an open source quote: project, not OS. i thought we were
>supposed
> > to quote: help each other? not put each other down by scolding?  Yeah
>yeah,
> > go head, give the usual, Chris, you're outta line, you're over reacting,
>ah
> > save it! it'll do no good...  i'm gonna be honest, so if yall don't wanna
> > hear it, then hit the D key and delete, see if I care...  and this about
> > mayking me echo back to talk to myself on the reflecter, may or may not be
> > accidental, but if it's not, then you let me tell yall something: that is
> > ver'r'ry immature, and I do not! appreciate it... again, should that be
> > ententionally done... I know it's rude to interupt people: I'm not stupid!
> > but what can I do! so, unless I get some apologies over here, especially
> > from one person I hung up on tonight, my journey on the reflecter and this
> > list both! is finnished and final! close the Bible on it, it's done! End
>of
> > discussion! I rest my case, and will now say absolutely no more, as I have
> > nothing more to say to you all...  In fact, I'm so livid, I won't even
> > close by signing my name, you don't know who this is? look on the from
>line
> > header you dodo!
> >
> >
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Re: Debating if i should unsubscribe

[Shaun Oliver]

*SNIP*
See? i'm not that far blown, I know!
/dev/eth0 is your first ethernet adapter, and then is /dev/eth1 and so
on...  I'm assuming that you have a whole other box that you're doing
the
e-mail thing on?
*SNIP*
now there's a classic example of talking out your arse if ever I heard
it.
chris may have unsubbed from the list,
but statements like the above just go to show how wrong he actually was.
there is no /dev/eth0 nore is there any /dev/eth1 or so on.
kirk's motto applys here.
Why be helpful if you are not?
oh well, I've only got kevin to kick the shit out of, now.
at least that still amuses me,

-- 
Shaun Oliver
"Becareful of the toes u step on today, they maybe connected to the ass you have to kiss tomorrow!"

EMAIL: shaun_oliver@optusnet.com.au
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Re: Debating if i should unsubscribe

[kevin]

You don't realize one thing:
Words are weapons.
Kevin
email:
kjsisco@rcn.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Shaun Oliver" <shaun_oliver@optusnet.com.au>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 8:02 AM
Subject: Re: Debating if i should unsubscribe


> *SNIP*
> See? i'm not that far blown, I know!
> /dev/eth0 is your first ethernet adapter, and then is /dev/eth1 and so
> on...  I'm assuming that you have a whole other box that you're doing
> the
> e-mail thing on?
> *SNIP*
> now there's a classic example of talking out your arse if ever I heard
> it.
> chris may have unsubbed from the list,
> but statements like the above just go to show how wrong he actually was.
> there is no /dev/eth0 nore is there any /dev/eth1 or so on.
> kirk's motto applys here.
> Why be helpful if you are not?
> oh well, I've only got kevin to kick the shit out of, now.
> at least that still amuses me,
>
> -- 
> Shaun Oliver
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you have to kiss tomorrow!"
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Re: Debating if i should unsubscribe

[Shaun Oliver]

at the risk of being helpful, kevin delivered up the following on Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 09:44:53AM -0500, 
> You don't realize one thing:
> Words are weapons.
*SNIP*

Are they really? I never of course gave that a thought.
but kevin, any chance to shoot you down in flames and I'll gladly grab
it with both hands. you sir, are tiresum, boring, dead from the neck up,
full of shit, a boil on the arse of society that needs squezing and
badly, and, an overall pain in the arse.
I'll use the only weapons I have available to me.
and if it hurts you, quite frankly I don't care.
like my signature says I may have to kiss your ass tomorrow, but you had
better be sure you're not talking out of it if I ever do, or I'll come
up and bite it yet again.
I've had my fill of shit stirring kevin so I'm going back to doing
something worth while. and that is using an operating system that
doesn't suffer fools gladly.
good day to you sir and oh,
get nicked.




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Re: Debating if i should unsubscribe

[kevin]

This is not the time for a battle, it is a time for open discussion.
All I ask is that this comunity be a little more reasonable.
This is a process known as personal growth.
Kevin
email:
kjsisco@rcn.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Shaun Oliver" <shaun_oliver@optusnet.com.au>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: Debating if i should unsubscribe


> at the risk of being helpful, kevin delivered up the following on Fri, Nov
07, 2003 at 09:44:53AM -0500,
> > You don't realize one thing:
> > Words are weapons.
> *SNIP*
>
> Are they really? I never of course gave that a thought.
> but kevin, any chance to shoot you down in flames and I'll gladly grab
> it with both hands. you sir, are tiresum, boring, dead from the neck up,
> full of shit, a boil on the arse of society that needs squezing and
> badly, and, an overall pain in the arse.
> I'll use the only weapons I have available to me.
> and if it hurts you, quite frankly I don't care.
> like my signature says I may have to kiss your ass tomorrow, but you had
> better be sure you're not talking out of it if I ever do, or I'll come
> up and bite it yet again.
> I've had my fill of shit stirring kevin so I'm going back to doing
> something worth while. and that is using an operating system that
> doesn't suffer fools gladly.
> good day to you sir and oh,
> get nicked.
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Shaun Oliver
> "Becareful of the toes u step on today, they maybe connected to the ass
you have to kiss tomorrow!"
>
> EMAIL: shaun_oliver@optusnet.com.au
> ICQ: 76958435
> YAHOO: blindman01_2000
> MSN: blindman_2001@hotmail.com
> AIM: captain nemo 200
> IRC: irc.awesomechat.net:6666
> IRCNICK: blindman
> CHANNELS: #awesomeradio #mircpopup-magic #linux #help #ourworld #audiofile
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Re: Debating if i should unsubscribe

[Luke Davis]

 On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, kevin wrote:

> You don't realize one thing:
> Words are weapons.

Oh, we know.  Why do you think we have been using so many of them, when
sending to your email address?
I refer you to the recent boil, nicking, and related comments of our
colleague across the pond, as prime examples of the ICLMs we have at our
disposal (inter-continental Linguistic missiles).

Re: Debating if i should unsubscribe

[Lorenzo Prince]

Luke Davis staggered into view and mumbled:
> I refer you to the recent boil, nicking, and related comments of our
> colleague across the pond, as prime examples of the ICLMs we have at our
> disposal (inter-continental Linguistic missiles).

ICLMs!  LOL!!!!!!!!!  ROFLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!

PRINCE

Re: Debating if i should unsubscribe

[kevin]

Lol
Kevin
email:
kjsisco@rcn.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Luke Davis" <ldavis@shellworld.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: Debating if i should unsubscribe


> On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, kevin wrote:
> 
> > You don't realize one thing:
> > Words are weapons.
> 
> Oh, we know.  Why do you think we have been using so many of them, when
> sending to your email address?
> I refer you to the recent boil, nicking, and related comments of our
> colleague across the pond, as prime examples of the ICLMs we have at our
> disposal (inter-continental Linguistic missiles).
> 
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Re: Debating if i should unsubscribe

[Luke Davis]

Chris

Nobody here owes you anything, and you owe us nothing.  Furthermore, by
leaving this list, you serve only to cut yourself off from a valuable
source of information, and to spare us from your periodic rantings.

So, by all means, send an unsubscribe command, and then go refill your
prescriptions, or you'll start being involintarily unsubscribed from lists
again.

As for starting a newbee only list on topica, with none of "these guys"
allowed on it.  Oh, that's real good: the blind leading the blindest.

That said, may I be the first to wish you a very happy, very speedy, fall,
into a very deep ditch.

Luke


On Thu, 6 Nov 2003, Chris Gilland wrote:

> For those of you who have not been on the reflecter much, or at all today,
> go ahead and delete this mail, as it'll do you know good to read it
> further, but for those who were on at the same time as I:
>
> look:  i know that I can be a brat at times, OK, yeah, I know I was cutting
> people off tonight, but what do you all expect! it was out of my control! i
> sat here and purposely told you all over and over and over and over that
> you all were not coming through, and that you were breaking up
> terribly...  i even wrote it out in a text chat...  You all can't give me
> the excuse either that it was windows cutting up on me as no it wasn't. I
> wasn't even in! windows at the time, so don't even start...  What was I
> supposed to do! i had no indication that I was interupting, and when I told
> you all to write me in a text chat, no one even dared to ablige, so don't
> you all be blaming me for something I cannot help, OK?  i'm trying damn
> hard to keep my cool, but i'm really about at my thread!  i was gonna shut
> up and not say this on list, but i think after all I will...  i thought
> Linux was an open source quote: project, not OS. i thought we were supposed
> to quote: help each other? not put each other down by scolding?  Yeah yeah,
> go head, give the usual, Chris, you're outta line, you're over reacting, ah
> save it! it'll do no good...  i'm gonna be honest, so if yall don't wanna
> hear it, then hit the D key and delete, see if I care...  and this about
> mayking me echo back to talk to myself on the reflecter, may or may not be
> accidental, but if it's not, then you let me tell yall something: that is
> ver'r'ry immature, and I do not! appreciate it... again, should that be
> ententionally done... I know it's rude to interupt people: I'm not stupid!
> but what can I do! so, unless I get some apologies over here, especially
> from one person I hung up on tonight, my journey on the reflecter and this
> list both! is finnished and final! close the Bible on it, it's done! End of
> discussion! I rest my case, and will now say absolutely no more, as I have
> nothing more to say to you all...  In fact, I'm so livid, I won't even
> close by signing my name, you don't know who this is? look on the from line
> header you dodo!
>
>
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Re: Debating if i should unsubscribe

[kevin]

I repeat, "lol"
Kevin
email:
kjsisco@rcn.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Luke Davis" <ldavis@shellworld.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: Debating if i should unsubscribe


> Chris
>
> Nobody here owes you anything, and you owe us nothing.  Furthermore, by
> leaving this list, you serve only to cut yourself off from a valuable
> source of information, and to spare us from your periodic rantings.
>
> So, by all means, send an unsubscribe command, and then go refill your
> prescriptions, or you'll start being involintarily unsubscribed from lists
> again.
>
> As for starting a newbee only list on topica, with none of "these guys"
> allowed on it.  Oh, that's real good: the blind leading the blindest.
>
> That said, may I be the first to wish you a very happy, very speedy, fall,
> into a very deep ditch.
>
> Luke
>
>
> On Thu, 6 Nov 2003, Chris Gilland wrote:
>
> > For those of you who have not been on the reflecter much, or at all
today,
> > go ahead and delete this mail, as it'll do you know good to read it
> > further, but for those who were on at the same time as I:
> >
> > look:  i know that I can be a brat at times, OK, yeah, I know I was
cutting
> > people off tonight, but what do you all expect! it was out of my
control! i
> > sat here and purposely told you all over and over and over and over that
> > you all were not coming through, and that you were breaking up
> > terribly...  i even wrote it out in a text chat...  You all can't give
me
> > the excuse either that it was windows cutting up on me as no it wasn't.
I
> > wasn't even in! windows at the time, so don't even start...  What was I
> > supposed to do! i had no indication that I was interupting, and when I
told
> > you all to write me in a text chat, no one even dared to ablige, so
don't
> > you all be blaming me for something I cannot help, OK?  i'm trying damn
> > hard to keep my cool, but i'm really about at my thread!  i was gonna
shut
> > up and not say this on list, but i think after all I will...  i thought
> > Linux was an open source quote: project, not OS. i thought we were
supposed
> > to quote: help each other? not put each other down by scolding?  Yeah
yeah,
> > go head, give the usual, Chris, you're outta line, you're over reacting,
ah
> > save it! it'll do no good...  i'm gonna be honest, so if yall don't
wanna
> > hear it, then hit the D key and delete, see if I care...  and this about
> > mayking me echo back to talk to myself on the reflecter, may or may not
be
> > accidental, but if it's not, then you let me tell yall something: that
is
> > ver'r'ry immature, and I do not! appreciate it... again, should that be
> > ententionally done... I know it's rude to interupt people: I'm not
stupid!
> > but what can I do! so, unless I get some apologies over here, especially
> > from one person I hung up on tonight, my journey on the reflecter and
this
> > list both! is finnished and final! close the Bible on it, it's done! End
of
> > discussion! I rest my case, and will now say absolutely no more, as I
have
> > nothing more to say to you all...  In fact, I'm so livid, I won't even
> > close by signing my name, you don't know who this is? look on the from
line
> > header you dodo!
> >
> >
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RE: Debating if i should unsubscribe

[Whitley CTR Cecil H]

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*snip*
All I ask is that this comunity be a little more reasonable.
*snip*
Maybe it's just me, but if there is a problem between an individual and a
community......  It's so obvious I won't even bother saying it.  I've
subscribed and unsubscribed a half dozen times or so, for my own reasons
which remain just that.  I didn't require public debate with myself and/or
others to decide either.  So, just do it (or not) I really don't care one
way or the other, just quit blithering on about it.  I'm tired of you
wasting my bandwidth.

Cecil

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