* Fw: Fw: More Info on New Accessible Cell Phone
@ David Poehlman
` Charles Crawford
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From: David Poehlman @ UTC (permalink / raw)
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Kelly Pierce" <kellyjosef@EARTHLINK.NET>
To: <VICUG-L@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU>
Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 4:38 PM
Subject: Fw: More Info on New Accessible Cell Phone
Dennis adds new details from a Sprint press release. He sent it to me
and obviously intended to share it with the list. The phone is now
available at retail stores and the full price is $330, which may be
offered for less as this is the only talking cell phone that Sprint
provides.
Kelly
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dennis Bartlett" <info@speechbraille.com>
To: "Kelly Pierce" <kellyjosef@EARTHLINK.NET>
Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 2:33 PM
Subject: RE: More Info on New Accessible Cell Phone
> Sprint, the US telecom operator, has announced the immediate
availability of
> its latest video phone, manufactured by
> Toshiba,
> through its chain of retail stores.
>
> The VM4050 offers rich imaging capabilities
> The VM4050 offers a built-in video and still camera, which can take and
send
> VGA images or 15-second clips. The 2.2-inch TFT main screen offers 310
x 350
> pixel resolution at 260K (18-bit) colours, while the camera offers 4x
> digital and 2x optical zoom, picture light and a self-timer function.
>
> The 1-inch external STN screen supports 16-bit colour and offers
picture
> caller ID so users can instantly tell who is calling without opening
the
> phone.
>
> Other features include a built-in speakerphone, voice control and voice
> guidance, which means the phone talks to users to inform them of
important
> events.
> PIM functionality is also included along with other basic applications
such
> as a calculator. The handset also contains an embedded GPS system for
> emergency
> location services.
>
> The phone's hardware is dual-band and tri-mode for operation outside of
the
> Sprint PCS network, while supported PCS Vision features include Picture
> Mail,
> Messaging, Games, Ringers, Screen Savers, Web and PCS Business
Connection.
>
> A lithium-ion battery gives the VM4050 a claimed life of 10 days
standby or
> over 3 hours of talk-time, while an extended battery offers an extra
50%
> life.
>
> Sprint are suggesting a retail price of $329.99 USD at its retail
stores.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: VICUG-L: Visually Impaired Computer Users' Group List
> [mailto:VICUG-L@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU]On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce
> Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 10:14 AM
> To: VICUG-L@MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU
> Subject: More Info on New Accessible Cell Phone
>
>
> Hello all,
>
> In the last hour, I reached Bonnie O'Day who shared some information
> about the new accessible cell phone. As many know, Bonnie filed a
> discrimination complaint about cell phone accessibility against cell
> phone producer Audiovox and service provider Verizon Wireless. last
> week, Audiovox settled the complaint by offering a cell phone that
> provides voice guidance to enable blind users to place and receive
voice
> calls. The complaint is still pending against Verizon who has not
> decided to offer the new phone. Verizon is America's largest wireless
> communications company with 38 million subscribers. It had $1.8
billion
> in profits in the third quarter of 2003.
>
> The telephone is currently offered by Sprint as the VM4050 by Toshiba.
> It has the following audio features:
>
> *Voice announce of On/off
> *Voice announce of Roaming out of local area
> *Voice identifying battery status by percentage
> *Voice confirmation of outgoing telephone number to be dialed
> *Talking caller ID of incoming calls
> *Voice announcement that voice mails are waiting when phone is turned
on.
>
> Bonnie thanked the American Foundation for the Blind who hired as a
> consultant a highly knowledgeable telecommunications expert that
provided
> invaluable technical assistance in working with the companies to
develop
> this solution. It is unclear if this telephone is available at
> storefront Sprint locations or just through catalog orders. In either
> event, the audio functionality is built right into the phone. There is
> no special software to install and no blind version either! The
> mainstream product itself is accessible for basic functionality.
>
> Kelly
>
>
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* Re: Fw: Fw: More Info on New Accessible Cell Phone
Fw: Fw: More Info on New Accessible Cell Phone David Poehlman
@ ` Charles Crawford
` Alex Snow
` Janina Sajka
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From: Charles Crawford @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.; +Cc: SPEAKUP Distribution List
$330 for a cell phone? Eh hem? It appears to be a video cell phone which
is great for folks who can see the screen. Irrespective of that, cell
phones are supposed to have their various model lines accessible. We
should see what is happening with a regular cell phone.
--
-- Charlie Crawford
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` Charles Crawford
@ ` Alex Snow
` Janina Sajka
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From: Alex Snow @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
is it one of those stupid camera phones that there are about a million
comercials for?
On Mon, Dec 29, 2003 at 06:22:41AM -0500, Charles
Crawford wrote:
> $330 for a cell phone? Eh hem? It appears to be a video cell phone which
> is great for folks who can see the screen. Irrespective of that, cell
> phones are supposed to have their various model lines accessible. We
> should see what is happening with a regular cell phone.
>
>
>
> --
> -- Charlie Crawford
>
>
>
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back.
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` Charles Crawford
` Alex Snow
@ ` Janina Sajka
` Cheryl Homiak
` Sean McMahon
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From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Time is our friend on these things. It's $300 today. In a few months
it'll be under $100. By this time next year it will be free with a
2-year contract.
This is exactly how things went with the Nokia 3650 which also started
out at over $300 last April.
As to how complete the accessibility is, I can't really say. But, But,
please recognize that this is one vendor's first attempt at that, and
please recognize that they rushed that feature to market.
So, it's probably best to go to a store and play with one to figure out
whether what it does do is sufficient for your particular needs. Maybe
you'll decide it is. Or, maybe you'll decide it is when the price drops
in a few months.
Or, maybe you'll decide to wait for another phone to compare this one
with.
Charles Crawford writes:
> From: Charles Crawford <ccrawford@Starpower.net>
>
> $330 for a cell phone? Eh hem? It appears to be a video cell phone which
> is great for folks who can see the screen. Irrespective of that, cell
> phones are supposed to have their various model lines accessible. We
> should see what is happening with a regular cell phone.
>
>
>
> --
> -- Charlie Crawford
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
--
Janina Sajka
Email: janina@rednote.net
Phone: (202) 408-8175
Director, Technology Research and Development
American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
http://www.afb.org
Chair, Accessibility Work Group
Free Standards Group
http://accessibility.freestandards.org
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` Janina Sajka
@ ` Cheryl Homiak
` David Poehlman
` Sean McMahon
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From: Cheryl Homiak @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
well, I am glad at least to see a step in the right direction.
And I suppose the only way the vendor is ever going to know whether this
is adequate accessibility is if people try it out--either by buying it or
at least taking a look at it in a store--and giving feedback.
We do have a Sprint store here in Madison, so even though it probably
isn't the style or the price I would want, I might go take a look.
If I do that, I'll post what I find.
But I don't have any respite hours to get away from home until January
7th, and then I only get two times a month so it might be a while before a
sprint store visit gets top priority. However, since I am now using my
cell phone in place of any landline phone, it's worth my while to keep
abreast of developments.
--
Cheryl
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` Cheryl Homiak
@ ` David Poehlman
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From: David Poehlman @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Madison also has the trace center if it is in wis.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cheryl Homiak" <chomiak@chartermi.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: Fw: More Info on New Accessible Cell Phone
well, I am glad at least to see a step in the right direction.
And I suppose the only way the vendor is ever going to know whether this
is adequate accessibility is if people try it out--either by buying it or
at least taking a look at it in a store--and giving feedback.
We do have a Sprint store here in Madison, so even though it probably
isn't the style or the price I would want, I might go take a look.
If I do that, I'll post what I find.
But I don't have any respite hours to get away from home until January
7th, and then I only get two times a month so it might be a while before a
sprint store visit gets top priority. However, since I am now using my
cell phone in place of any landline phone, it's worth my while to keep
abreast of developments.
--
Cheryl
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Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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* Re: Fw: Fw: More Info on New Accessible Cell Phone
` Janina Sajka
` Cheryl Homiak
@ ` Sean McMahon
` Janina Sajka
1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Sean McMahon @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
I may have already asked but how accessable is the 3650 compared to the new
toshiba assuming you're using the mobile accessability and how does talks
compare? Sean
----- Original Message -----
From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 7:12 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: Fw: More Info on New Accessible Cell Phone
> Time is our friend on these things. It's $300 today. In a few months
> it'll be under $100. By this time next year it will be free with a
> 2-year contract.
>
> This is exactly how things went with the Nokia 3650 which also started
> out at over $300 last April.
>
> As to how complete the accessibility is, I can't really say. But, But,
> please recognize that this is one vendor's first attempt at that, and
> please recognize that they rushed that feature to market.
>
> So, it's probably best to go to a store and play with one to figure out
> whether what it does do is sufficient for your particular needs. Maybe
> you'll decide it is. Or, maybe you'll decide it is when the price drops
> in a few months.
>
> Or, maybe you'll decide to wait for another phone to compare this one
> with.
>
> Charles Crawford writes:
> > From: Charles Crawford <ccrawford@Starpower.net>
> >
> > $330 for a cell phone? Eh hem? It appears to be a video cell phone
which
> > is great for folks who can see the screen. Irrespective of that, cell
> > phones are supposed to have their various model lines accessible. We
> > should see what is happening with a regular cell phone.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > -- Charlie Crawford
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
> --
>
> Janina Sajka
> Email: janina@rednote.net
> Phone: (202) 408-8175
>
> Director, Technology Research and Development
> American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
> http://www.afb.org
>
> Chair, Accessibility Work Group
> Free Standards Group
> http://accessibility.freestandards.org
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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` Sean McMahon
@ ` Janina Sajka
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From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sean McMahon, Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Sean McMahon writes:
> From: "Sean McMahon" <smcmahon@usgs.gov>
>
> I may have already asked but how accessable is the 3650 compared to the new
> toshiba assuming you're using the mobile accessability and how does talks
> compare? Sean
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 7:12 AM
> Subject: Re: Fw: Fw: More Info on New Accessible Cell Phone
>
>
> > Time is our friend on these things. It's $300 today. In a few months
> > it'll be under $100. By this time next year it will be free with a
> > 2-year contract.
> >
> > This is exactly how things went with the Nokia 3650 which also started
> > out at over $300 last April.
> >
> > As to how complete the accessibility is, I can't really say. But, But,
> > please recognize that this is one vendor's first attempt at that, and
> > please recognize that they rushed that feature to market.
> >
> > So, it's probably best to go to a store and play with one to figure out
> > whether what it does do is sufficient for your particular needs. Maybe
> > you'll decide it is. Or, maybe you'll decide it is when the price drops
> > in a few months.
> >
> > Or, maybe you'll decide to wait for another phone to compare this one
> > with.
> >
> > Charles Crawford writes:
> > > From: Charles Crawford <ccrawford@Starpower.net>
> > >
> > > $330 for a cell phone? Eh hem? It appears to be a video cell phone
> which
> > > is great for folks who can see the screen. Irrespective of that, cell
> > > phones are supposed to have their various model lines accessible. We
> > > should see what is happening with a regular cell phone.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > -- Charlie Crawford
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> > --
> >
> > Janina Sajka
> > Email: janina@rednote.net
> > Phone: (202) 408-8175
> >
> > Director, Technology Research and Development
> > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
> > http://www.afb.org
> >
> > Chair, Accessibility Work Group
> > Free Standards Group
> > http://accessibility.freestandards.org
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
--
Janina Sajka
Email: janina@rednote.net
Phone: (202) 408-8175
Director, Technology Research and Development
American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
http://www.afb.org
Chair, Accessibility Work Group
Free Standards Group
http://accessibility.freestandards.org
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