boot disks

boot disks

[Christopher Schulte]

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Which disk image should I download for debian 2.2 potatoe so I can boot from the floppy using speakup with a braille N speak?  

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Re: boot disks

[igueths]

Hi. Potato is an outdated version of Debian. You should grab the latest stable 
binary isos form a mirror close to you, and use that to install your base 
system and other packages. However, you do want the kernel floppy included in 
the potato directory of the Speakup ftp site. Once you have your system up and 
running, you can upgrade your kernel. The other option is a network install.
> Which disk image should I download for debian 2.2 potatoe so I can boot from the 
> floppy using speakup with a braille N speak?  

Re: boot disks

[Steve Holmes]

I went that route a while back and had a hell of a time getting
modules to load.  I got some basic stuff from the new Woody (3.0)
disks to come up on my machine but as soon as I tried to do anything
serious like setting up my network interface or just about anything
else, I kept getting unresolved module errors.  I could never seem to
get the modules to match up with the available kernels or any kernels
I custom built myself from my existing Slackware machine.  Also, the
default debian kernel is, I believe, 2.2.20 and Most other distros are
running 2.4.20 now.  Of course, Debian is updating regularly and
frequently so that might be old news by now.  Any how, I eventually
gave up on getting Debian to install on my box after fiddling with it
for over a week.  I went back to Slackware and had it up and running
within a few hours completely.

On Tue, May 20, 2003 at 05:15:45PM +0000, igueths@attbi.com wrote:
> Hi. Potato is an outdated version of Debian. You should grab the latest stable 
> binary isos form a mirror close to you, and use that to install your base 
> system and other packages. However, you do want the kernel floppy included in 
> the potato directory of the Speakup ftp site. Once you have your system up and 
> running, you can upgrade your kernel. The other option is a network install.
> > Which disk image should I download for debian 2.2 potatoe so I can boot from the 
> > floppy using speakup with a braille N speak?  
> 

Re: boot disks

[Christopher Schulte]

Well, I do have zipslack, and obviously could probably download the full
version of slackware from the ftp site, but I thought it was easier to set
up debian.  I thought you could just use one command to get what you needed
and debian would get the packages you needed and all you had to do is set
them up.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Holmes" <steve@holmesgrown.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 9:48 PM
Subject: Re: boot disks


> I went that route a while back and had a hell of a time getting
> modules to load.  I got some basic stuff from the new Woody (3.0)
> disks to come up on my machine but as soon as I tried to do anything
> serious like setting up my network interface or just about anything
> else, I kept getting unresolved module errors.  I could never seem to
> get the modules to match up with the available kernels or any kernels
> I custom built myself from my existing Slackware machine.  Also, the
> default debian kernel is, I believe, 2.2.20 and Most other distros are
> running 2.4.20 now.  Of course, Debian is updating regularly and
> frequently so that might be old news by now.  Any how, I eventually
> gave up on getting Debian to install on my box after fiddling with it
> for over a week.  I went back to Slackware and had it up and running
> within a few hours completely.
>
> On Tue, May 20, 2003 at 05:15:45PM +0000, igueths@attbi.com wrote:
> > Hi. Potato is an outdated version of Debian. You should grab the latest
stable
> > binary isos form a mirror close to you, and use that to install your
base
> > system and other packages. However, you do want the kernel floppy
included in
> > the potato directory of the Speakup ftp site. Once you have your system
up and
> > running, you can upgrade your kernel. The other option is a network
install.
> > > Which disk image should I download for debian 2.2 potatoe so I can
boot from the
> > > floppy using speakup with a braille N speak?
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>

Re: boot disks

[Kirk Reiser]

The problem is we don't have anyone that has made a commitment to
maintaning the debian boot disks.  I think you can use the potato
disks on the site and then just apt-get dist-upgrade to the latest
woody or sid or sarge or whoever you like from that silly flick.  It
would be nice to have a permanent maintainer but they haven't stepped
forward and taken the project to hand.

  Kirk

-- 

Kirk Reiser				The Computer Braille Facility
e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca		University of Western Ontario
phone: (519) 661-3061

Re: boot disks

[Christopher Schulte]

Well, I downloaded the 2.2.3 cd image last year, but I haven't a clue which
disks to grab from there.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kirk Reiser" <kirk@braille.uwo.ca>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 7:04 AM
Subject: Re: boot disks


> The problem is we don't have anyone that has made a commitment to
> maintaning the debian boot disks.  I think you can use the potato
> disks on the site and then just apt-get dist-upgrade to the latest
> woody or sid or sarge or whoever you like from that silly flick.  It
> would be nice to have a permanent maintainer but they haven't stepped
> forward and taken the project to hand.
>
>   Kirk
>
> --
>
> Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility
> e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario
> phone: (519) 661-3061
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>

Re: boot disks

[seth creature]

Hi Kirk, just a quick question, I understand that the latest ver of speakup
doesn't use the speakup configuration utility, but the proc filesystem
instead.  While I am curious about this in general, can you tell me if
there's a way to save the settings so that the synth speaks as fast as I
want it to during the boot process?  Thanks all... cheers!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kirk Reiser" <kirk@braille.uwo.ca>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 4:04 AM
Subject: Re: boot disks


> The problem is we don't have anyone that has made a commitment to
> maintaning the debian boot disks.  I think you can use the potato
> disks on the site and then just apt-get dist-upgrade to the latest
> woody or sid or sarge or whoever you like from that silly flick.  It
> would be nice to have a permanent maintainer but they haven't stepped
> forward and taken the project to hand.
>
>   Kirk
>
> --
>
> Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility
> e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario
> phone: (519) 661-3061
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: boot disks

[Kirk Reiser]

There are a number of script systems that folks here on the list have
contrived for setting configuration options during boot.  I'm the
wrong person to ask because I always configure by hand after boot up.

  Kirk

-- 

Kirk Reiser				The Computer Braille Facility
e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca		University of Western Ontario
phone: (519) 661-3061

Re: boot disks

[TL Barr]

Where would one go about finding a list of the available boot-scripts?

Best regards,  Les
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kirk Reiser" <kirk@braille.uwo.ca>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: boot disks


> There are a number of script systems that folks here on the list have
> contrived for setting configuration options during boot.  I'm the
> wrong person to ask because I always configure by hand after boot up.
> 
>   Kirk
> 
> -- 
> 
> Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility
> e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario
> phone: (519) 661-3061
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: boot disks

[seth creature]

Okay, I'll ask around... thanks again.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kirk Reiser" <kirk@braille.uwo.ca>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2003 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: boot disks


> There are a number of script systems that folks here on the list have
> contrived for setting configuration options during boot.  I'm the
> wrong person to ask because I always configure by hand after boot up.
> 
>   Kirk
> 
> -- 
> 
> Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility
> e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario
> phone: (519) 661-3061
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: boot disks

[Igor Gueths]

Actually, that probably had something to do with the libraries that wre
linked into the 2.2.20 kernel binary. And you said you had no luck with
any custom kernel you built yourself? That's very interesting. It could
also be the modules.dep that didn't match with the modules on the Cd. Did
you perhaps try building the necessary module for your ethernet card, and
then making a bootable floppy or set of floppies with the module and the
kernel itself?

May you code in the power of the source,
may the kernel, libraries, and utilities be with you,
throughout all distributions until the end of the epoch.

On Tue, 20 May 2003, Steve Holmes wrote:

> I went that route a while back and had a hell of a time getting
> modules to load.  I got some basic stuff from the new Woody (3.0)
> disks to come up on my machine but as soon as I tried to do anything
> serious like setting up my network interface or just about anything
> else, I kept getting unresolved module errors.  I could never seem to
> get the modules to match up with the available kernels or any kernels
> I custom built myself from my existing Slackware machine.  Also, the
> default debian kernel is, I believe, 2.2.20 and Most other distros are
> running 2.4.20 now.  Of course, Debian is updating regularly and
> frequently so that might be old news by now.  Any how, I eventually
> gave up on getting Debian to install on my box after fiddling with it
> for over a week.  I went back to Slackware and had it up and running
> within a few hours completely.
>
> On Tue, May 20, 2003 at 05:15:45PM +0000, igueths@attbi.com wrote:
> > Hi. Potato is an outdated version of Debian. You should grab the latest stable
> > binary isos form a mirror close to you, and use that to install your base
> > system and other packages. However, you do want the kernel floppy included in
> > the potato directory of the Speakup ftp site. Once you have your system up and
> > running, you can upgrade your kernel. The other option is a network install.
> > > Which disk image should I download for debian 2.2 potatoe so I can boot from the
> > > floppy using speakup with a braille N speak?
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

Re: boot disks

[Steve Holmes]

Well, that's a possibility.  I don't remember the exact details just
now but the modules, .dep file and my kernel were probably never in
exact sync.  I think I had tried to use the supplied modules from
Debian and my kernel that I compiled and I bet that was never properly
matched up.  I could probably compile a new kernel, save off the
complete modules directory and make that available to the Debian
environment; maybe that would work.    Maybe I'll mess with Deb again
if it means getting the boot disks updated for others to use.  

On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 10:37:53AM -0400, Igor Gueths wrote:
> Actually, that probably had something to do with the libraries that wre
> linked into the 2.2.20 kernel binary. And you said you had no luck with
> any custom kernel you built yourself? That's very interesting. It could
> also be the modules.dep that didn't match with the modules on the Cd. Did
> you perhaps try building the necessary module for your ethernet card, and
> then making a bootable floppy or set of floppies with the module and the
> kernel itself?
> 
> May you code in the power of the source,
> may the kernel, libraries, and utilities be with you,
> throughout all distributions until the end of the epoch.
> 
> On Tue, 20 May 2003, Steve Holmes wrote:
> 
> > I went that route a while back and had a hell of a time getting
> > modules to load.  I got some basic stuff from the new Woody (3.0)
> > disks to come up on my machine but as soon as I tried to do anything
> > serious like setting up my network interface or just about anything
> > else, I kept getting unresolved module errors.  I could never seem to
> > get the modules to match up with the available kernels or any kernels
> > I custom built myself from my existing Slackware machine.  Also, the
> > default debian kernel is, I believe, 2.2.20 and Most other distros are
> > running 2.4.20 now.  Of course, Debian is updating regularly and
> > frequently so that might be old news by now.  Any how, I eventually
> > gave up on getting Debian to install on my box after fiddling with it
> > for over a week.  I went back to Slackware and had it up and running
> > within a few hours completely.
> >
> > On Tue, May 20, 2003 at 05:15:45PM +0000, igueths@attbi.com wrote:
> > > Hi. Potato is an outdated version of Debian. You should grab the latest stable
> > > binary isos form a mirror close to you, and use that to install your base
> > > system and other packages. However, you do want the kernel floppy included in
> > > the potato directory of the Speakup ftp site. Once you have your system up and
> > > running, you can upgrade your kernel. The other option is a network install.
> > > > Which disk image should I download for debian 2.2 potatoe so I can boot from the
> > > > floppy using speakup with a braille N speak?
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> 
> 
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