Cursor tracking and laptops?

Cursor tracking and laptops?

[James Homuth]

I'm using speakup on a laptop until I can get the hang of it, and noticed
there's a fair bit of functionality missing from the laptop keybindings.
Specificly, there's no mention of the ability on a laptop to turn off cursor
tracking for things like web browsing, or when using Alsamixer. Of course
it's also just as likely I haven't got a clue, but the documentation doesn't
make it entirely too obvious, nor does my generally playing around, although
it did get me used to speakup's keyboard layout where laptops are concerned.
Can someone enlighten me on how things like that work on laptops?

Re: Cursor tracking and laptops?

[Hermann]

On 02.06.2009 at 16:45:13 "James Homuth" <james@the-jdh.com> wrote:

> I'm using speakup on a laptop until I can get the hang of it, and noticed
> there's a fair bit of functionality missing from the laptop keybindings.
> Specificly, there's no mention of the ability on a laptop to turn off cursor
> tracking for things like web browsing, or when using Alsamixer. Of course
> it's also just as likely I haven't got a clue, but the documentation doesn't
> make it entirely too obvious, nor does my generally playing around, although
> it did get me used to speakup's keyboard layout where laptops are concerned.
> Can someone enlighten me on how things like that work on laptops?

Try the FN-key; it's for emulating the numpad on a laptop.
Hermann

RE: Cursor tracking and laptops?

[James Homuth]

How would that work, exactly? Documentation over there's not very clear on
that subject either. Is it the same as the caps lock + z? If so, I still
can't find the cursor tracking option. Sorry for playing 20 questions, but
I'm still figuring my way around its inner workings... The machine's only
been talking for less than 24 hours. 

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Sent: June 2, 2009 11:16 AM
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Subject: Re: Cursor tracking and laptops?

On 02.06.2009 at 16:45:13 "James Homuth" <james@the-jdh.com> wrote:

> I'm using speakup on a laptop until I can get the hang of it, and 
> noticed there's a fair bit of functionality missing from the laptop
keybindings.
> Specificly, there's no mention of the ability on a laptop to turn off 
> cursor tracking for things like web browsing, or when using Alsamixer. 
> Of course it's also just as likely I haven't got a clue, but the 
> documentation doesn't make it entirely too obvious, nor does my 
> generally playing around, although it did get me used to speakup's
keyboard layout where laptops are concerned.
> Can someone enlighten me on how things like that work on laptops?

Try the FN-key; it's for emulating the numpad on a laptop.
Hermann
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Re: Cursor tracking and laptops?

[Hermann]

am Di 02. Jun 2009 um 20:48:47 schrieb James Homuth <james@the-jdh.com>:
> How would that work, exactly? Documentation over there's not very clear on
> that subject either. Is it the same as the caps lock + z? If so, I still
> can't find the cursor tracking option. Sorry for playing 20 questions, but
> I'm still figuring my way around its inner workings... The machine's only
> been talking for less than 24 hours. 
> 
No, not the Speakup+z key.. I'm talking of the FN-key, which is in most 
cases located 
right from the left control key.
Holding this key and using the keys arround "j, k, l" "u, i, o" etc, 
emulates the keystrokes of the numpad.
For more details check out the documentation of your laptop.
Hermann

Re: Cursor tracking and laptops?

[Gaijin]

On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 09:13:14PM +0200, Hermann wrote:
> > How would that work, exactly?

	On the Laptop:

Caps+8 is Paste, but is the NumLock key on the Desktop keypad.
	Caps+9 is Mark and Cut.
Caps+0 should be the Cursor Tracking toggle but is unassigned.
Caps+Minus is Park and Unpark.

	Paste on the Laptop config can't duplicate the keypad's keys on
the desktop because many of them require the CapsLock key that's being
used already on the laptop's alpha keys.  Desktop Keypad star and dash
might be assigned to laptop Equals and Backspace, respectively for the
Goto and Hex functions.  Q, W, E, A, S, D, Z, X, and C could be used
for Caps+number combinations used on the Desktop keypad.
Caps+/ on the laptop should be Cursor Position, and not char color, and
Caps+V should be Char color.  Caps+Enter on the laptop is unassigned,
but should be like Caps+Enter on the Desktop keypad.  Not sure of the
rest of the laptop keys, but that seems to cover things.  HTH,

			Michael

Re: Cursor tracking and laptops?

[Kerry Hoath]

there are 2 common leyaouts for fn keypads, and it varies more between 
machines.

both have a numberpad centered around the i key. hold the fn key and pres 
the following for fun times:

123=jkl
456=uio
789=789
m is insert, period  is delete.
fn / is usually numpad slash,
the star can be on fn-0 or fn-8 depending on laptop.
fn ; and fn p are plus and minus.
there is a document in speakups docs dir called defaultkeymap this is worth 
a read through.

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Subject: RE: Cursor tracking and laptops?


How would that work, exactly? Documentation over there's not very clear on
that subject either. Is it the same as the caps lock + z? If so, I still
can't find the cursor tracking option. Sorry for playing 20 questions, but
I'm still figuring my way around its inner workings... The machine's only
been talking for less than 24 hours.

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Hermann
Sent: June 2, 2009 11:16 AM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: Cursor tracking and laptops?

On 02.06.2009 at 16:45:13 "James Homuth" <james@the-jdh.com> wrote:

> I'm using speakup on a laptop until I can get the hang of it, and
> noticed there's a fair bit of functionality missing from the laptop
keybindings.
> Specificly, there's no mention of the ability on a laptop to turn off
> cursor tracking for things like web browsing, or when using Alsamixer.
> Of course it's also just as likely I haven't got a clue, but the
> documentation doesn't make it entirely too obvious, nor does my
> generally playing around, although it did get me used to speakup's
keyboard layout where laptops are concerned.
> Can someone enlighten me on how things like that work on laptops?

Try the FN-key; it's for emulating the numpad on a laptop.
Hermann
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Re: Cursor tracking and laptops?

[Terry D. Cudney]

Hello James,

      You are correct! Somehow the key binding has been lost in speakup.

      Whether you are using a laptop or desktop with full keyboard, the speakup-9, speakup-0 and speakup-<dash> should mirror the functionality of the numeric keypad top-row keys.

      Perhaps the maintainers can take alook at where this was lost and see about putting it back?

      You mentioned other lack of  functionality? What is missing?

      thanks,

      --terry

On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 10:45:13AM -0400, James Homuth wrote:
> I'm using speakup on a laptop until I can get the hang of it, and noticed
> there's a fair bit of functionality missing from the laptop keybindings.
> Specificly, there's no mention of the ability on a laptop to turn off cursor
> tracking for things like web browsing, or when using Alsamixer. Of course
> it's also just as likely I haven't got a clue, but the documentation doesn't
> make it entirely too obvious, nor does my generally playing around, although
> it did get me used to speakup's keyboard layout where laptops are concerned.
> Can someone enlighten me on how things like that work on laptops?
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RE: Cursor tracking and laptops?

[James Homuth]

I don't have the docs up in front of me right at this moment, but I've
noticed a few things listed that don't have laptop equivalents. Cursor
tracking is one such, but I remember seeing a couple more. I'll be more
specific when I can sit down with the documentation again. 

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Terry D. Cudney
Sent: June 2, 2009 1:57 PM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: Cursor tracking and laptops?

Hello James,

      You are correct! Somehow the key binding has been lost in speakup.

      Whether you are using a laptop or desktop with full keyboard, the
speakup-9, speakup-0 and speakup-<dash> should mirror the functionality of
the numeric keypad top-row keys.

      Perhaps the maintainers can take alook at where this was lost and see
about putting it back?

      You mentioned other lack of  functionality? What is missing?

      thanks,

      --terry

On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 10:45:13AM -0400, James Homuth wrote:
> I'm using speakup on a laptop until I can get the hang of it, and 
> noticed there's a fair bit of functionality missing from the laptop
keybindings.
> Specificly, there's no mention of the ability on a laptop to turn off 
> cursor tracking for things like web browsing, or when using Alsamixer. 
> Of course it's also just as likely I haven't got a clue, but the 
> documentation doesn't make it entirely too obvious, nor does my 
> generally playing around, although it did get me used to speakup's
keyboard layout where laptops are concerned.
> Can someone enlighten me on how things like that work on laptops?
> _______________________________________________
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> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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