Re: Servers and Tos

["Richard Villa" <villar@earthlink.net>]

No, DSL service involves routers and usually has you sharing one somewhere
before you get to your ISP.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: Servers and Tos


> That's what I was getting at, I think you and Alex summarized things
> pretty well. On the other end of the spectrum, dsl is a direct and
> dedicated connection between you and your ISP (well, your phone
> company's dslam actually), and there is nobody else between you and
> your ISP.
>
> Greg
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 04:16:24AM +1100, Shaun Oliver wrote:
> > at the risk of being helpful, Gregory Nowak delivered up the following
on Sat, Dec 06, 2003 at 11:02:18AM -0600,
> > > > and, I totally agree, any ISP that gives you lightening fast speeds,
and doesn't think your going to run servers is totally moronic,
> > > > and to enforce that, is beyond moronic, and totally unfair.
> > >
> > > If you would have said that about dsl, I would totally agree with
> > > you. However, you need to keep in mind the differences between dsl and
> > > cable connections. Yes, they both give you fast speeds, but they don't
> > > work the same way, just as a car and train can get you somewhere fast,
> > > but there are differences of course between how a car and train work.
> > >
> > > So, when cable ISPs don't allow their users to run servers, I can
> > > totally see where the ISP is coming from.
> > >
> > > Greg
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Ok, with your cable provider, if I'm not mistaken, you're sharing that
> > bandwidth with others on your subnet.
> > wihch is more than likely those in the same suburb as you with cable
> > connection as well.
> > the isp isn't going to give this bandwidth up freely because they don't
> > just pay for a monthly block. they're paying for every little bit of
> > bandwidth you use up and if you're going to sit there with a home
> > service and run wtf you like on it, you're a fool.
> > you know the tos, you know the consequences of your actions.
> >
> > think for starters about the people that have to share that bandwidth
> > with you. if you're always hogging it, your isp is well within their
> > rights to cut you off and take any action they deme appropriate as set
> > forth in the tos.
> >
> > think about what you're doing and if you want to run servers, be
> > prepared to pay for the bandwidth and I mean per megabyte not this
> > monthly block business.
> >
> >
> >
> > -- 
> > Shaun Oliver
> >
> >
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