RE: Web Mail

RE: Web Mail

[Dawes, Stephen]

Thanks Greg,
I am not to familiar with freshmeet.

Steve Dawes
PH:  (403) 268-5527. 
Mailto:  sdawes@gov.calgary.ab.ca 



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gregory Nowak [mailto:gnowak1@uic.edu]
> Sent: 2002 March 28 2:03 PM
> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> Subject: Re: Web Mail
> 
> 
> I typed in webmail on freshmeat, and found at least 6 of 
> them. As for how good they are, I don't know.
> Greg
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 01:43:32PM -0700, Dawes, Stephen wrote:
> > Does anyone know of, or is using, a web mail hosting package?
> > 
> > Steve Dawes
> > PH:  (403) 268-5527. 
> > Mailto:  sdawes@gov.calgary.ab.ca 
> > 
> > 
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pci usb synths

[randy turner]

hi all,
i was looking at new computers
most of them that i could find only have one isa slot,
how do people get around this using speakup?
does speakup work with anything that uses pci slots or usb ports?
thanks in advance
randy

Re: pci usb synths

[Charles Hallenbeck]

Randy,
My latest upgrade was to a system with only PCI slots, and I
switched to using a Doubletalk Lite on a serial port.
Chuck

On Mon, 1 Apr 2002, randy turner wrote:

>
>
> hi all,
> i was looking at new computers
> most of them that i could find only have one isa slot,
> how do people get around this using speakup?
> does speakup work with anything that uses pci slots or usb ports?
> thanks in advance
> randy
>
>
>
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Re: pci usb synths

[randy turner]

hi chuck,
good to hear you on,
yep i am not surprised!
so far i am lucky,
have a good friend who is giving me all of her hand me down computers
that she out grows
so i should have another linux computer soon.
thanks
randy

On Mon, 1 Apr 2002, Charles Hallenbeck wrote:

> Randy,
> My latest upgrade was to a system with only PCI slots, and I
> switched to using a Doubletalk Lite on a serial port.
> Chuck
>
> On Mon, 1 Apr 2002, randy turner wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > hi all,
> > i was looking at new computers
> > most of them that i could find only have one isa slot,
> > how do people get around this using speakup?
> > does speakup work with anything that uses pci slots or usb ports?
> > thanks in advance
> > randy
> >
> >
> >
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> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
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Re: pci usb synths

[Igor Gueths]

Hi Randy. Well I'm not sure if Dectalk express synths can still be obtained, but if you happen to dig one up, just get a usb2serial converter. Or a serial female2male adapter if your serial port happens to be female like the one on my laptop is. Also, a question to the listers. I'm planning on possibly replacing winblows on my laptop with Debian. If I get a USB2serial converter and plug it into the right-most port for instance, would it be refered to as ttys0? Thanks! 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: randy turner <rturner2@texasisp.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 2:23 AM
Subject: pci usb synths


> 
> 
> hi all,
> i was looking at new computers
> most of them that i could find only have one isa slot,
> how do people get around this using speakup?
> does speakup work with anything that uses pci slots or usb ports?
> thanks in advance
> randy
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: pci usb synths

[randy turner]

hi Igor,
good to see you in here,
well i think that i need more input on this
i don't think that a usb to serial would help me
because speakup does not use any usb ports yet,
i might be wrong on this
if i am someone please tell me.
thanks
randy

On Mon, 1 Apr 2002, Igor Gueths wrote:

> Hi Randy. Well I'm not sure if Dectalk express synths can still be obtained, but if you happen to dig one up, just get a usb2serial converter. Or a serial female2male adapter if your serial port happens to be female like the one on my laptop is. Also, a question to the listers. I'm planning on possibly replacing winblows on my laptop with Debian. If I get a USB2serial converter and plug it into the right-most port for instance, would it be refered to as ttys0? Thanks!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: randy turner <rturner2@texasisp.com>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 2:23 AM
> Subject: pci usb synths
>
>
> >
> >
> > hi all,
> > i was looking at new computers
> > most of them that i could find only have one isa slot,
> > how do people get around this using speakup?
> > does speakup work with anything that uses pci slots or usb ports?
> > thanks in advance
> > randy
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
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Re: pci usb synths

[Kirk Reiser]

A usb to serial converter won't do any good for talking to a serial
synth.  The reason is that the i/o ports for the uarts are not the
same and we speak to the ports at a very low level.  I am trying to
find time to include usb and pcmcia support.

  Kirk

-- 

Kirk Reiser				The Computer Braille Facility
e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca		University of Western Ontario
phone: (519) 661-3061

Re: pci usb synths

[Igor Gueths]

Hi Kirk. I actually thought of that, but just wasn't sure if it was the
case. So could I do with a female-2-male serial converter instead? Just
asking because you just mentioned to me that a usb-to-serial wouldn't
work. Its a good thing I didn't go out and buy one before I read your post
grin!

On 2 Apr 2002, Kirk Reiser wrote:

> A usb to serial converter won't do any good for talking to a serial
> synth.  The reason is that the i/o ports for the uarts are not the
> same and we speak to the ports at a very low level.  I am trying to
> find time to include usb and pcmcia support.
>
>   Kirk
>
> --
>
> Kirk Reiser				The Computer Braille Facility
> e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca		University of Western Ontario
> phone: (519) 661-3061
>
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Re: pci usb synths

[Gregory Nowak]

Hmmmm, I thought someone on this list said a while back that they were able to run speakup with a bns and some other serial synth via such a converter.
Greg


On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 06:33:04AM -0500, Kirk Reiser wrote:
> A usb to serial converter won't do any good for talking to a serial
> synth.  The reason is that the i/o ports for the uarts are not the
> same and we speak to the ports at a very low level.  I am trying to
> find time to include usb and pcmcia support.
> 
>   Kirk
> 
> -- 
> 
> Kirk Reiser				The Computer Braille Facility
> e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca		University of Western Ontario
> phone: (519) 661-3061
> 
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Re: pci usb synths

[Thomas D. Ward]

Hi, Kirk. Well, I have had some success using a USB convertor so I know it 
is possible.
However, this seams to work only with read hat, and I had to pass specific 
options to speakup to get it work properly.

On 2 Apr 2002, Kirk Reiser wrote:

> A usb to serial converter won't do any good for talking to a serial
> synth.  The reason is that the i/o ports for the uarts are not the
> same and we speak to the ports at a very low level.  I am trying to
> find time to include usb and pcmcia support.
> 
>   Kirk
> 
> 

Re: pci usb synths

[Igor Gueths]

Hi Randy. Speakup doesn't need to use usb ports as far as I know, because
what you're esentially doing is putting a serial port in where a usb port
used to be. You're probably right in some extent here, because I'm not
sure whether even with a usb2serial converter Speakup would still use the
usb interface in some way. Can someone please enlighten either me or Randy
on this, because I am interested in this subject also, since I want to put
Debian on my laptop, and my serial port is a female port. And my dectalk
requires a male port, since my cable for the dectalk is a female
connector.

On Mon, 1 Apr 2002, randy turner wrote:

>
>
> hi Igor,
> good to see you in here,
> well i think that i need more input on this
> i don't think that a usb to serial would help me
> because speakup does not use any usb ports yet,
> i might be wrong on this
> if i am someone please tell me.
> thanks
> randy
>
> On Mon, 1 Apr 2002, Igor Gueths wrote:
>
> > Hi Randy. Well I'm not sure if Dectalk express synths can still be obtained, but if you happen to dig one up, just get a usb2serial converter. Or a serial female2male adapter if your serial port happens to be female like the one on my laptop is. Also, a question to the listers. I'm planning on possibly replacing winblows on my laptop with Debian. If I get a USB2serial converter and plug it into the right-most port for instance, would it be refered to as ttys0? Thanks!
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: randy turner <rturner2@texasisp.com>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 2:23 AM
> > Subject: pci usb synths
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > hi all,
> > > i was looking at new computers
> > > most of them that i could find only have one isa slot,
> > > how do people get around this using speakup?
> > > does speakup work with anything that uses pci slots or usb ports?
> > > thanks in advance
> > > randy
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> >
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> >
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Re: pci usb synths

[Gregory Nowak]

Well, the only way to find that out is to boot with the converter plugged in, and see what the kernel assigns it as. It doesn't matter what usb port it is plugged into, it just matters if it is the first one or not. Usb to serial converters are reffered to as /dev/ttyUSB0 and so on. For devfs, I believe the designations are /dev/usb/ttyS0 and so on, but I'm not sure about the devfs naming I just gave.
Greg


On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 04:18:07PM -0500, Igor Gueths wrote:
> Hi Randy. Well I'm not sure if Dectalk express synths can still be obtained, but if you happen to dig one up, just get a usb2serial converter. Or a serial female2male adapter if your serial port happens to be female like the one on my laptop is. Also, a question to the listers. I'm planning on possibly replacing winblows on my laptop with Debian. If I get a USB2serial converter and plug it into the right-most port for instance, would it be refered to as ttys0? Thanks! 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: randy turner <rturner2@texasisp.com>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 2:23 AM
> Subject: pci usb synths
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > hi all,
> > i was looking at new computers
> > most of them that i could find only have one isa slot,
> > how do people get around this using speakup?
> > does speakup work with anything that uses pci slots or usb ports?
> > thanks in advance
> > randy
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> 
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Re: pci usb synths

[randy turner]

hi,
i saw where linux was supported on some of those.
thanks
randy

On Mon, 1 Apr 2002, Gregory Nowak wrote:

> Well, the only way to find that out is to boot with the converter plugged in, and see what the kernel assigns it as. It doesn't matter what usb port it is plugged into, it just matters if it is the first one or not. Usb to serial converters are reffered to as /dev/ttyUSB0 and so on. For devfs, I believe the designations are /dev/usb/ttyS0 and so on, but I'm not sure about the devfs naming I just gave.
> Greg
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 04:18:07PM -0500, Igor Gueths wrote:
> > Hi Randy. Well I'm not sure if Dectalk express synths can still be obtained, but if you happen to dig one up, just get a usb2serial converter. Or a serial female2male adapter if your serial port happens to be female like the one on my laptop is. Also, a question to the listers. I'm planning on possibly replacing winblows on my laptop with Debian. If I get a USB2serial converter and plug it into the right-most port for instance, would it be refered to as ttys0? Thanks!
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: randy turner <rturner2@texasisp.com>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 2:23 AM
> > Subject: pci usb synths
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > hi all,
> > > i was looking at new computers
> > > most of them that i could find only have one isa slot,
> > > how do people get around this using speakup?
> > > does speakup work with anything that uses pci slots or usb ports?
> > > thanks in advance
> > > randy
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> >
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