RE: ssh and editor?

RE: ssh and editor?

[Dawes, Stephen]

PFE is no longer being worked on, but is still available out there.

It works well with JAWS regardless of the version os JAWS.

As to Secure CRT, it also works well with JAWS 7.


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RE: ssh and editor?

[Debee Norling]

I use TeraTerm with JAWS as my ssh client. Gives me both speech and Braille
with accurate cursor tracking. I have to use Windows at work, so it's very
nice to have an accessible ssh client running under Windows.

A friend tells me that Zoomtext also works especially well with Teraterm --
change cursor shape in the teraterm.ini file.

RE: ssh and editor?

[Butch Bussen]

Last I knew, teraterm wasn't ssh.  There was a patch for ssh 1 as I 
recall, but not for 2 which is what my i r l p ham radio Linux box wants.
73s
Butch Bussen
wa0vjr

p.s.  I use a program called winscp that you run on the windows machine. 
Lets you log in to the Linux machine, copy, edit, rename, and so forth. 
Much easier than trying to edit with teraterm.

Re: ssh and editor?

[Jim Kutsch]

A quick Google of "teraterm ssh" turned up a TeraTerm v3.1.3 with ssh2 
support included at:
http://www.ayera.com/teraterm/

Jim Kutsch
Morristown, NJ


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From: "Butch Bussen" <butchb@shellworld.net>
To: <debee@jfcl.com>; "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 11:06
Subject: RE: ssh and editor?


Last I knew, teraterm wasn't ssh.  There was a patch for ssh 1 as I
recall, but not for 2 which is what my i r l p ham radio Linux box wants.
73s
Butch Bussen
wa0vjr

p.s.  I use a program called winscp that you run on the windows machine.
Lets you log in to the Linux machine, copy, edit, rename, and so forth.
Much easier than trying to edit with teraterm.


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Re: ssh and editor?

[John G. Heim]

When I tried the client below i got no speach. It doesn't work any better 
for me than putty did.  I think that you can create a config script for any 
application run under JAWS and you could make it work a lot better.

But I use openssh. It runs in a command window so you don't have to putz 
with JAWS. It works pretty well in terms of echoing what you type and 
echoing what appears on the screen. For instance,if you press enter, it 
will read the prompt. If you do an ls, it will read the file list.  The 
biggest problem is cutting text to the clipboard.  It's very difficult to 
mmmark text in a command window.  First you put it into mmark mode by 
pressing Alt+Space,e,k. Then you have use the mouse cursor. The JAWS cursor 
doesn't work.  There may be ways to fix all this but that is for another list.

Still, openssh works better than putty.


Jim Kutsch wrote:
>A quick Google of "teraterm ssh" turned up a TeraTerm v3.1.3 with ssh2
>support included at:
>http://www.ayera.com/teraterm/
>
>Jim Kutsch
>Morristown, NJ
>
>
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><speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 11:06
>Subject: RE: ssh and editor?
>
>
>Last I knew, teraterm wasn't ssh.  There was a patch for ssh 1 as I
>recall, but not for 2 which is what my i r l p ham radio Linux box wants.
>73s
>Butch Bussen
>wa0vjr
>
>p.s.  I use a program called winscp that you run on the windows machine.
>Lets you log in to the Linux machine, copy, edit, rename, and so forth.
>Much easier than trying to edit with teraterm.
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RE: ssh and editor?

[Debee Norling]

Tyler wrote:
>I am using putty,
>Well, is there a way to make it work good with jaws 7?

Putty just doesn't work well with any screen reader I've tried.

Use the free Teraterm which is vastly better.
		http://www.vector.co.jp/authors/VA002416/teraterm.html

and go the jfwlite page to get JAWS scripts for TeraTerm. I had to futz a
tiny bit with the code to get them working right with later versions of
JAWS, but it wasn't hard.

Actually if you google you will find two completely different sets of JAWS
scripts for Teraterm. The ones on the JFWlite page work better with Braille
but both have easy-to-follow code that can be quickly changed if necessary.
And both have the ability to properly speak tty output as it scrols.


--Debee

Re: ssh and editor?

[Steve Holmes]

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OI believe that worked if I recalled but I could never figure out how to
scroll the longer lists.  Page-up and Page-down would not work for me.

On Sun, Jan 15, 2006 at 12:24:34PM -0500, Jim Wantz wrote:
> Steve, I got the cygwin package selection to work with the mouse keyboard 
> equivalents (left click) in Window-eyes.  I have access to another machine 
> with JFW and was never able to get it to work.
> 
> 
> On Fri, 13 Jan 2006, Steve Holmes wrote:
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> > Yeah, that seems to work pretty good but for the life of me, I could
> > never figure out the cygwin installer.  That thing is far from being
> > accessible when it comes to selecting packages.  I really don't wanna
> > install *EVERYTHING* just to have an SSH client.  Has anyone figured out
> > a way to select packages?  I brought this up to the developers on the
> > cygwin list and got the impression that the installer was admittedly
> > non-standard and inaccessible but no hope to change it because of the
> > mile deep hole filled with old legacy code <sigh>.
> >
> > I did actually get ssh to run under cygwin with good results but I have
> > a lot of extra bagage I'd like to remove or I may just uninstall cygwin
> > alltogether to conserve much needed disk space.
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 07:39:36PM -0500, Jim Wantz wrote:
> >> For Window-eyes users you could try installing cygwin, going to the cygwin
> >> prompt and trying their ssh client.  You type ssh just like in linux.
> >> It works very well with nano and presumably with other more complex
> >> editors.
> >>        Jim Wantz
> >>       WB0TFK
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Re: ssh and editor?

[Jim Wantz]

The reason I don't use putty is I was unable to ever get immediate screen 
output with that program.  Cygwin's ssh and secure Comnet worked without 
any modifications at all.

Re: ssh and editor?

[Jim Wantz]

Steve, I got the cygwin package selection to work with the mouse keyboard 
equivalents (left click) in Window-eyes.  I have access to another machine 
with JFW and was never able to get it to work.


On Fri, 13 Jan 2006, Steve Holmes wrote:

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> Yeah, that seems to work pretty good but for the life of me, I could
> never figure out the cygwin installer.  That thing is far from being
> accessible when it comes to selecting packages.  I really don't wanna
> install *EVERYTHING* just to have an SSH client.  Has anyone figured out
> a way to select packages?  I brought this up to the developers on the
> cygwin list and got the impression that the installer was admittedly
> non-standard and inaccessible but no hope to change it because of the
> mile deep hole filled with old legacy code <sigh>.
>
> I did actually get ssh to run under cygwin with good results but I have
> a lot of extra bagage I'd like to remove or I may just uninstall cygwin
> alltogether to conserve much needed disk space.
>
> On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 07:39:36PM -0500, Jim Wantz wrote:
>> For Window-eyes users you could try installing cygwin, going to the cygwin
>> prompt and trying their ssh client.  You type ssh just like in linux.
>> It works very well with nano and presumably with other more complex
>> editors.
>>        Jim Wantz
>>       WB0TFK
>>
>>
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Re: ssh and editor?

[Chris Nestrud]

PuTTY does not properly track the cursor. It consistently indicates it
as being one character to the right of where it should be.

The cwRsync package includes rsync and ssh from cygwin, along with
necessary DLLs.

http://www.itefix.no/phpws/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=6&MMN_position=23:23

Chris

On Fri, Jan 13, 2006 at 08:53:40AM -0800, Chris Norman wrote:
> Why not use Putty?
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Chris Norman
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> From: "Steve Holmes" <steve@holmesgrown.com>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 7:30 AM
> Subject: Re: ssh and editor?
> 
> 
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> 
> Yeah, that seems to work pretty good but for the life of me, I could
> never figure out the cygwin installer.  That thing is far from being
> accessible when it comes to selecting packages.  I really don't wanna
> install *EVERYTHING* just to have an SSH client.  Has anyone figured out
> a way to select packages?  I brought this up to the developers on the
> cygwin list and got the impression that the installer was admittedly
> non-standard and inaccessible but no hope to change it because of the
> mile deep hole filled with old legacy code <sigh>.
> 
> I did actually get ssh to run under cygwin with good results but I have
> a lot of extra bagage I'd like to remove or I may just uninstall cygwin
> alltogether to conserve much needed disk space.
> 
> On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 07:39:36PM -0500, Jim Wantz wrote:
> > For Window-eyes users you could try installing cygwin, going to the cygwin
> > prompt and trying their ssh client.  You type ssh just like in linux.
> > It works very well with nano and presumably with other more complex
> > editors.
> >        Jim Wantz
> >       WB0TFK
> >
> >
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Re: ssh and editor?

[Chris Norman]

Why not use Putty?

HTH,

Chris Norman
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Subject: Re: ssh and editor?


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Yeah, that seems to work pretty good but for the life of me, I could
never figure out the cygwin installer.  That thing is far from being
accessible when it comes to selecting packages.  I really don't wanna
install *EVERYTHING* just to have an SSH client.  Has anyone figured out
a way to select packages?  I brought this up to the developers on the
cygwin list and got the impression that the installer was admittedly
non-standard and inaccessible but no hope to change it because of the
mile deep hole filled with old legacy code <sigh>.

I did actually get ssh to run under cygwin with good results but I have
a lot of extra bagage I'd like to remove or I may just uninstall cygwin
alltogether to conserve much needed disk space.

On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 07:39:36PM -0500, Jim Wantz wrote:
> For Window-eyes users you could try installing cygwin, going to the cygwin
> prompt and trying their ssh client.  You type ssh just like in linux.
> It works very well with nano and presumably with other more complex
> editors.
>        Jim Wantz
>       WB0TFK
>
>
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Re: ssh and editor?

[Steve Holmes]

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Yeah, that seems to work pretty good but for the life of me, I could
never figure out the cygwin installer.  That thing is far from being
accessible when it comes to selecting packages.  I really don't wanna
install *EVERYTHING* just to have an SSH client.  Has anyone figured out
a way to select packages?  I brought this up to the developers on the
cygwin list and got the impression that the installer was admittedly
non-standard and inaccessible but no hope to change it because of the
mile deep hole filled with old legacy code <sigh>.

I did actually get ssh to run under cygwin with good results but I have
a lot of extra bagage I'd like to remove or I may just uninstall cygwin
alltogether to conserve much needed disk space.

On Thu, Jan 12, 2006 at 07:39:36PM -0500, Jim Wantz wrote:
> For Window-eyes users you could try installing cygwin, going to the cygwin 
> prompt and trying their ssh client.  You type ssh just like in linux.
> It works very well with nano and presumably with other more complex 
> editors.
>        Jim Wantz
>       WB0TFK
> 
> 
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ssh and editor?

[Jim Wantz]

For Window-eyes users you could try installing cygwin, going to the cygwin 
prompt and trying their ssh client.  You type ssh just like in linux.
It works very well with nano and presumably with other more complex 
editors.
       Jim Wantz
      WB0TFK

RE: ssh and editor?

[Darragh]

Morning,

Try SecureCRT instead of putty. I'm doing a lot of work with oracle at the
moment over an SSH connection and I find that the scripts available with
SecureCRT do a great job.  I'm using Jaws 5 however but I'm sure the scripts
work just as well with V7 as well.

If you have any questions relating to this feel free to Email me off list at
d@digitaldarragh.com

Darragh

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Sent: 12 January 2006 04:32
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Subject: Re: ssh and editor?

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I didn't think that was being supported anymore; let alone being
available.  If it is alive again, I would be interested in hearing about
it.  I used to really like that editor.  In Windows, I've been relying
heavily on NoteTab Pro, an excellent shareware editor.  It ain't free
but real good none the less.

On Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 05:02:27PM -0700, Steve Dawes wrote:
> Try PFE32 it is the Program File Editor and I have no problems using it
with
> JAWS.
> 
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of tyler
> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 10:49 AM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: ssh and editor?
> 
> 
> Hay,
> I am using putty,
> Well, is there a way to make it work good with jaws 7?
> Also, is there a good editor that works with jaws and putty? I am tired of
> connecting to my ftp server every time I want to compile something,
> downloading it, compiling it, opening it in notepad, fixing errors,
saving,
> reconnecting to ftp, redownloading, reconverting to unix format, and
> recompiling. lol
> Thanks,
> Tyler Littlefield.
> Check out our website:
> http://tysplace.the-leetest.net
> check out my blog:
> livejournal.com/~tylerrl
> [my programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features]
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Re: ssh and editor?

[Steve Holmes]

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I didn't think that was being supported anymore; let alone being
available.  If it is alive again, I would be interested in hearing about
it.  I used to really like that editor.  In Windows, I've been relying
heavily on NoteTab Pro, an excellent shareware editor.  It ain't free
but real good none the less.

On Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 05:02:27PM -0700, Steve Dawes wrote:
> Try PFE32 it is the Program File Editor and I have no problems using it with
> JAWS.
> 
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of tyler
> Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 10:49 AM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: ssh and editor?
> 
> 
> Hay,
> I am using putty,
> Well, is there a way to make it work good with jaws 7?
> Also, is there a good editor that works with jaws and putty? I am tired of
> connecting to my ftp server every time I want to compile something,
> downloading it, compiling it, opening it in notepad, fixing errors, saving,
> reconnecting to ftp, redownloading, reconverting to unix format, and
> recompiling. lol
> Thanks,
> Tyler Littlefield.
> Check out our website:
> http://tysplace.the-leetest.net
> check out my blog:
> livejournal.com/~tylerrl
> [my programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features]
> [failure is not an option, it comes bundled with windows!]
> 
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RE: ssh and editor?

[Steve Dawes]

Try PFE32 it is the Program File Editor and I have no problems using it with
JAWS.


Steve



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[mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of tyler
Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2006 10:49 AM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: ssh and editor?


Hay,
I am using putty,
Well, is there a way to make it work good with jaws 7?
Also, is there a good editor that works with jaws and putty? I am tired of
connecting to my ftp server every time I want to compile something,
downloading it, compiling it, opening it in notepad, fixing errors, saving,
reconnecting to ftp, redownloading, reconverting to unix format, and
recompiling. lol
Thanks,
Tyler Littlefield.
Check out our website:
http://tysplace.the-leetest.net
check out my blog:
livejournal.com/~tylerrl
[my programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features]
[failure is not an option, it comes bundled with windows!]


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ssh and editor?

[tyler]

Hay,
I am using putty,
Well, is there a way to make it work good with jaws 7?
Also, is there a good editor that works with jaws and putty? I am tired of 
connecting to my ftp server every time I want to compile something, 
downloading it, compiling it, opening it in notepad, fixing errors, saving, 
reconnecting to ftp, redownloading, reconverting to unix format, and 
recompiling. lol
Thanks,
Tyler Littlefield.
Check out our website:
http://tysplace.the-leetest.net
check out my blog:
livejournal.com/~tylerrl
[my programs don't have bugs, just randomly added features]
[failure is not an option, it comes bundled with windows!]