slackware iso's

slackware iso's

[Christopher Moore]

Hi gang,
What do you do with the .asc and .md5 files associated with the slackware
iso's?  I think they have something to do with checking the accuracy of the
iso image but not sure how to use them.

Thanks.
Chris

Distributions with speakup modified kernels?

[Darragh]

Hello,
Ok, I've installed and messed around with Fedora but I'm sick of people, a
certain person in this country telling me that its not stable, there are
still bugs, its still an alfa bla bla bla.

My question:
I'm being advised to go for another distribution.  Red hat 9 was suggested.
If I do indeed go for another distribution what would you suggest?  I will
mainly use speakup and if I can ever get it to work, emacspeak however, I'd
like to mess around with gnome and gnopernicus.

I've just spent the last three hours trying to figure out why Winblows xp
stopped recognising the NTFS partition on this disk when I should have being
working on stuff for deadlines due tomorrow.

I'd really appreciate any views you have about any distribution of Linux
that you've used successfully with speakup.
The distros that were suggested are:
mandrake,
slackware,
red hat
suSE
and
Free BSD.

please please let me know.


Darragh

Re: Distributions with speakup modified kernels?

[Chuck Hallenbeck]

I suggest you would be better off changing advisors instead of
changing distros. And that is from a Slackware enthusiast, too.


On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, Darragh wrote:

> Hello,
> Ok, I've installed and messed around with Fedora but I'm sick of people, a
> certain person in this country telling me that its not stable, there are
> still bugs, its still an alfa bla bla bla.
>
> My question:
> I'm being advised to go for another distribution.  Red hat 9 was suggested.
> If I do indeed go for another distribution what would you suggest?  I will
> mainly use speakup and if I can ever get it to work, emacspeak however, I'd
> like to mess around with gnome and gnopernicus.
>
> I've just spent the last three hours trying to figure out why Winblows xp
> stopped recognising the NTFS partition on this disk when I should have being
> working on stuff for deadlines due tomorrow.
>
> I'd really appreciate any views you have about any distribution of Linux
> that you've used successfully with speakup.
> The distros that were suggested are:
> mandrake,
> slackware,
> red hat
> suSE
> and
> Free BSD.
>
> please please let me know.
>
>
> Darragh
>
>
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> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

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Re: Distributions with speakup modified kernels?

[Darragh]

I completely agree, but at this point I'll try anything.  As the archives
for this list are available for any one I'll say no more.

Still, any advice would be helpful.

Darragh
----- Original Message -----

> I suggest you would be better off changing advisors instead of
> changing distros. And that is from a Slackware enthusiast, too.
>
>
> On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, Darragh wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> > Ok, I've installed and messed around with Fedora but I'm sick of people,
a
> > certain person in this country telling me that its not stable, there are
> > still bugs, its still an alfa bla bla bla.
> >
> > My question:
> > I'm being advised to go for another distribution.  Red hat 9 was
suggested.
> > If I do indeed go for another distribution what would you suggest?  I
will
> > mainly use speakup and if I can ever get it to work, emacspeak however,
I'd
> > like to mess around with gnome and gnopernicus.
> >
> > I've just spent the last three hours trying to figure out why Winblows
xp
> > stopped recognising the NTFS partition on this disk when I should have
being
> > working on stuff for deadlines due tomorrow.
> >
> > I'd really appreciate any views you have about any distribution of Linux
> > that you've used successfully with speakup.
> > The distros that were suggested are:
> > mandrake,
> > slackware,
> > red hat
> > suSE
> > and
> > Free BSD.
> >
> > please please let me know.
> >
> >
> > Darragh
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
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> In a world without Fences or Walls no one needs Windows or Gates.
>
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Re: Distributions with speakup modified kernels?

[Alex Snow]

use slackware. it's reaaaaaaly stable.
and comes with a speakup modified kernel in the stock distribution.
On 
Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 10:21:00PM -0000, Darragh wrote:
> Hello,
> Ok, I've installed and messed around with Fedora but I'm sick of people, a
> certain person in this country telling me that its not stable, there are
> still bugs, its still an alfa bla bla bla.
> 
> My question:
> I'm being advised to go for another distribution.  Red hat 9 was suggested.
> If I do indeed go for another distribution what would you suggest?  I will
> mainly use speakup and if I can ever get it to work, emacspeak however, I'd
> like to mess around with gnome and gnopernicus.
> 
> I've just spent the last three hours trying to figure out why Winblows xp
> stopped recognising the NTFS partition on this disk when I should have being
> working on stuff for deadlines due tomorrow.
> 
> I'd really appreciate any views you have about any distribution of Linux
> that you've used successfully with speakup.
> The distros that were suggested are:
> mandrake,
> slackware,
> red hat
> suSE
> and
> Free BSD.
> 
> please please let me know.
> 
> 
> Darragh
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Re: Distributions with speakup modified kernels?

[Darragh]

Hmm, not a bad idea, I've just looked at the price, is there a reason that
its cheaper than most of the other distributions?  Is that a really horrible
question?  I notice that it has emacs and gnopernicus as well.

Are these preeconfigured like in Fedora?

I'd like to make up my mind by getting as many views as possible along with
reading as much about the distributions as possible.

Thanks


Darragh

P.S, one more thing.  I don't think Slackware has RPM or Yum support does
it?  I know of like them two apps.  Can they be installed separately?
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Snow" <alex_snow@gmx.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 11:18 PM
Subject: Re: Distributions with speakup modified kernels?


> use slackware. it's reaaaaaaly stable.
> and comes with a speakup modified kernel in the stock distribution.
> On
> Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 10:21:00PM -0000, Darragh wrote:
> > Hello,
> > Ok, I've installed and messed around with Fedora but I'm sick of people,
a
> > certain person in this country telling me that its not stable, there are
> > still bugs, its still an alfa bla bla bla.
> >
> > My question:
> > I'm being advised to go for another distribution.  Red hat 9 was
suggested.
> > If I do indeed go for another distribution what would you suggest?  I
will
> > mainly use speakup and if I can ever get it to work, emacspeak however,
I'd
> > like to mess around with gnome and gnopernicus.
> >
> > I've just spent the last three hours trying to figure out why Winblows
xp
> > stopped recognising the NTFS partition on this disk when I should have
being
> > working on stuff for deadlines due tomorrow.
> >
> > I'd really appreciate any views you have about any distribution of Linux
> > that you've used successfully with speakup.
> > The distros that were suggested are:
> > mandrake,
> > slackware,
> > red hat
> > suSE
> > and
> > Free BSD.
> >
> > please please let me know.
> >
> >
> > Darragh
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
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> back.
>
>
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Re: Distributions with speakup modified kernels?

[Alex Snow]

you want to buy the oficial cd set? I find it easier just to download 
the isos. of course if you're on dialup this won't work.
I have a 2 mb downstream so an iso downloads in about an hour.
On Mon, 
Dec 01, 2003 at 11:21:15PM -0000, Darragh wrote:
> Hmm, not a bad idea, I've just looked at the price, is there a reason that
> its cheaper than most of the other distributions?  Is that a really horrible
> question?  I notice that it has emacs and gnopernicus as well.
> 
> Are these preeconfigured like in Fedora?
> 
> I'd like to make up my mind by getting as many views as possible along with
> reading as much about the distributions as possible.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> Darragh
> 
> P.S, one more thing.  I don't think Slackware has RPM or Yum support does
> it?  I know of like them two apps.  Can they be installed separately?
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>       Why do we spend more time troubleshooting our systems than actually
> using them?
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alex Snow" <alex_snow@gmx.net>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 11:18 PM
> Subject: Re: Distributions with speakup modified kernels?
> 
> 
> > use slackware. it's reaaaaaaly stable.
> > and comes with a speakup modified kernel in the stock distribution.
> > On
> > Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 10:21:00PM -0000, Darragh wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > Ok, I've installed and messed around with Fedora but I'm sick of people,
> a
> > > certain person in this country telling me that its not stable, there are
> > > still bugs, its still an alfa bla bla bla.
> > >
> > > My question:
> > > I'm being advised to go for another distribution.  Red hat 9 was
> suggested.
> > > If I do indeed go for another distribution what would you suggest?  I
> will
> > > mainly use speakup and if I can ever get it to work, emacspeak however,
> I'd
> > > like to mess around with gnome and gnopernicus.
> > >
> > > I've just spent the last three hours trying to figure out why Winblows
> xp
> > > stopped recognising the NTFS partition on this disk when I should have
> being
> > > working on stuff for deadlines due tomorrow.
> > >
> > > I'd really appreciate any views you have about any distribution of Linux
> > > that you've used successfully with speakup.
> > > The distros that were suggested are:
> > > mandrake,
> > > slackware,
> > > red hat
> > > suSE
> > > and
> > > Free BSD.
> > >
> > > please please let me know.
> > >
> > >
> > > Darragh
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> > --
> > Always borrow money from a pessimist; he doesn't expect to be paid
> > back.
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Re: Distributions with speakup modified kernels?

[Darragh]

I can use a college connection, 23MB.  lovely.  However, I someone said
something to me today which although he's trying to sell me the product made
me slightly suspicious.  I suppose, the advantage of buying the disks is
I'll get tech support from the company and the distributer.


Darragh


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----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Snow" <alex_snow@gmx.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 11:35 PM
Subject: Re: Distributions with speakup modified kernels?


> you want to buy the oficial cd set? I find it easier just to download
> the isos. of course if you're on dialup this won't work.
> I have a 2 mb downstream so an iso downloads in about an hour.
> On Mon,
> Dec 01, 2003 at 11:21:15PM -0000, Darragh wrote:
> > Hmm, not a bad idea, I've just looked at the price, is there a reason
that
> > its cheaper than most of the other distributions?  Is that a really
horrible
> > question?  I notice that it has emacs and gnopernicus as well.
> >
> > Are these preeconfigured like in Fedora?
> >
> > I'd like to make up my mind by getting as many views as possible along
with
> > reading as much about the distributions as possible.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> > Darragh
> >
> > P.S, one more thing.  I don't think Slackware has RPM or Yum support
does
> > it?  I know of like them two apps.  Can they be installed separately?
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> >       Why do we spend more time troubleshooting our systems than
actually
> > using them?
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Alex Snow" <alex_snow@gmx.net>
> > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."
<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 11:18 PM
> > Subject: Re: Distributions with speakup modified kernels?
> >
> >
> > > use slackware. it's reaaaaaaly stable.
> > > and comes with a speakup modified kernel in the stock distribution.
> > > On
> > > Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 10:21:00PM -0000, Darragh wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > > Ok, I've installed and messed around with Fedora but I'm sick of
people,
> > a
> > > > certain person in this country telling me that its not stable, there
are
> > > > still bugs, its still an alfa bla bla bla.
> > > >
> > > > My question:
> > > > I'm being advised to go for another distribution.  Red hat 9 was
> > suggested.
> > > > If I do indeed go for another distribution what would you suggest?
I
> > will
> > > > mainly use speakup and if I can ever get it to work, emacspeak
however,
> > I'd
> > > > like to mess around with gnome and gnopernicus.
> > > >
> > > > I've just spent the last three hours trying to figure out why
Winblows
> > xp
> > > > stopped recognising the NTFS partition on this disk when I should
have
> > being
> > > > working on stuff for deadlines due tomorrow.
> > > >
> > > > I'd really appreciate any views you have about any distribution of
Linux
> > > > that you've used successfully with speakup.
> > > > The distros that were suggested are:
> > > > mandrake,
> > > > slackware,
> > > > red hat
> > > > suSE
> > > > and
> > > > Free BSD.
> > > >
> > > > please please let me know.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Darragh
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> > > --
> > > Always borrow money from a pessimist; he doesn't expect to be paid
> > > back.
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
> --
> Always borrow money from a pessimist; he doesn't expect to be paid
> back.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
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Re: Distributions with speakup modified kernels?

[Sean McMahon]

Um aren't all the distros free?  If you need disks you can get the disk
immages of the net I'm pretty sure.
Sean
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Darragh" <lists@digitaldarragh.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: Distributions with speakup modified kernels?


> Hmm, not a bad idea, I've just looked at the price, is there a reason that
> its cheaper than most of the other distributions?  Is that a really
horrible
> question?  I notice that it has emacs and gnopernicus as well.
>
> Are these preeconfigured like in Fedora?
>
> I'd like to make up my mind by getting as many views as possible along
with
> reading as much about the distributions as possible.
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Darragh
>
> P.S, one more thing.  I don't think Slackware has RPM or Yum support does
> it?  I know of like them two apps.  Can they be installed separately?
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>       Why do we spend more time troubleshooting our systems than actually
> using them?
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
--
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alex Snow" <alex_snow@gmx.net>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."
<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 11:18 PM
> Subject: Re: Distributions with speakup modified kernels?
>
>
> > use slackware. it's reaaaaaaly stable.
> > and comes with a speakup modified kernel in the stock distribution.
> > On
> > Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 10:21:00PM -0000, Darragh wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > Ok, I've installed and messed around with Fedora but I'm sick of
people,
> a
> > > certain person in this country telling me that its not stable, there
are
> > > still bugs, its still an alfa bla bla bla.
> > >
> > > My question:
> > > I'm being advised to go for another distribution.  Red hat 9 was
> suggested.
> > > If I do indeed go for another distribution what would you suggest?  I
> will
> > > mainly use speakup and if I can ever get it to work, emacspeak
however,
> I'd
> > > like to mess around with gnome and gnopernicus.
> > >
> > > I've just spent the last three hours trying to figure out why Winblows
> xp
> > > stopped recognising the NTFS partition on this disk when I should have
> being
> > > working on stuff for deadlines due tomorrow.
> > >
> > > I'd really appreciate any views you have about any distribution of
Linux
> > > that you've used successfully with speakup.
> > > The distros that were suggested are:
> > > mandrake,
> > > slackware,
> > > red hat
> > > suSE
> > > and
> > > Free BSD.
> > >
> > > please please let me know.
> > >
> > >
> > > Darragh
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> > --
> > Always borrow money from a pessimist; he doesn't expect to be paid
> > back.
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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Re: Distributions with speakup modified kernels?

[Gregory Nowak]

Try slackware, I like it. My personal opinion of course.

Greg


On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 10:21:00PM -0000, Darragh wrote:
> Hello,
> Ok, I've installed and messed around with Fedora but I'm sick of people, a
> certain person in this country telling me that its not stable, there are
> still bugs, its still an alfa bla bla bla.
> 
> My question:
> I'm being advised to go for another distribution.  Red hat 9 was suggested.
> If I do indeed go for another distribution what would you suggest?  I will
> mainly use speakup and if I can ever get it to work, emacspeak however, I'd
> like to mess around with gnome and gnopernicus.
> 
> I've just spent the last three hours trying to figure out why Winblows xp
> stopped recognising the NTFS partition on this disk when I should have being
> working on stuff for deadlines due tomorrow.
> 
> I'd really appreciate any views you have about any distribution of Linux
> that you've used successfully with speakup.
> The distros that were suggested are:
> mandrake,
> slackware,
> red hat
> suSE
> and
> Free BSD.
> 
> please please let me know.
> 
> 
> Darragh
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Re: Distributions with speakup modified kernels?

[Darragh]

Thanks, that's exactly what I'm looking for.  Why do you like it?  Is it the
first distro you've used? Probably not but worth a try any way.  How do you
find installing and uninstalling applications?  What's it like to update?
Did you download it from the net or buy the discs from a distributor, why
did you choose what ever method?

Oh I know that's a lot of questions, but better to get them out there.


Darragh
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 11:21 PM
Subject: Re: Distributions with speakup modified kernels?


> Try slackware, I like it. My personal opinion of course.
>
> Greg
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 10:21:00PM -0000, Darragh wrote:
> > Hello,
> > Ok, I've installed and messed around with Fedora but I'm sick of people,
a
> > certain person in this country telling me that its not stable, there are
> > still bugs, its still an alfa bla bla bla.
> >
> > My question:
> > I'm being advised to go for another distribution.  Red hat 9 was
suggested.
> > If I do indeed go for another distribution what would you suggest?  I
will
> > mainly use speakup and if I can ever get it to work, emacspeak however,
I'd
> > like to mess around with gnome and gnopernicus.
> >
> > I've just spent the last three hours trying to figure out why Winblows
xp
> > stopped recognising the NTFS partition on this disk when I should have
being
> > working on stuff for deadlines due tomorrow.
> >
> > I'd really appreciate any views you have about any distribution of Linux
> > that you've used successfully with speakup.
> > The distros that were suggested are:
> > mandrake,
> > slackware,
> > red hat
> > suSE
> > and
> > Free BSD.
> >
> > please please let me know.
> >
> >
> > Darragh
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
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Re: Distributions with speakup modified kernels?

[Gregory Nowak]

On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 11:24:06PM -0000, Darragh wrote:
> Thanks, that's exactly what I'm looking for.  Why do you like it?  Is it the
> first distro you've used? Probably not but worth a try any way.  

Yes, it's the first distro I've used. However, to be fair, I will
mention that I have recently started using and exploring debian. While
I am really impressed with debian's package system as I've mentioned
here before, my other boxes are still running slackware, and will
probably be doing so for the foreseeable future.

> How do you
> find installing and uninstalling applications?  What's it like to update?

If there is a crunch to slackware, the above has to be it. Installing
the distro is fine, but in the past at least, the tgz package format
was not on a level of rpm for example. However, as we were told
recently on the list, somebody has supposedly developed a package
management system for slackware that is supposedly really good. I
haven't used it myself yet, so am repeating what I read at this
point. I will tell you though that slack 9.0 came out with more
improved package management tools, which make upgrading a package less
painful then in previous releases.

> Did you download it from the net or buy the discs from a distributor, why
> did you choose what ever method?
> 

So far, I've simply downloaded the disks, instead of buying
them. Although buying the 4 disk set gave you a few extra things in
the past (don't know if that's true still as of slack 9.1), they
weren't extras that I particularly needed. I also liked the fact at
first that I could try out the os/distribution without paying for more
then a blank cd (a refreshing thought after having put money into
Billy boy's wallet before), and downloading it meant that I didn't have to wait
for it to get shipped to me.

Hth.

Greg
P.S. Compared to debian at least, slackware doesn't have as many
binary packages ready to install. This means that you will be building
some stuff from source, which is not a bad thing once you get used to
it.


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Re: Distributions with speakup modified kernels?

[Darragh]

hmmm, ok, installing and especially configuring is a pain.  It never seems
to go right for me.  I'm a person who wants to be productive but I don't
have time to learn how to do it!

Bad isn't it!

Ok, well I'll keep slackware in mind.  Its accessible but the lack of rpm or
yum has me concerned.


Darragh
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From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 11:48 PM
Subject: Re: Distributions with speakup modified kernels?


> On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 11:24:06PM -0000, Darragh wrote:
> > Thanks, that's exactly what I'm looking for.  Why do you like it?  Is it
the
> > first distro you've used? Probably not but worth a try any way.
>
> Yes, it's the first distro I've used. However, to be fair, I will
> mention that I have recently started using and exploring debian. While
> I am really impressed with debian's package system as I've mentioned
> here before, my other boxes are still running slackware, and will
> probably be doing so for the foreseeable future.
>
> > How do you
> > find installing and uninstalling applications?  What's it like to
update?
>
> If there is a crunch to slackware, the above has to be it. Installing
> the distro is fine, but in the past at least, the tgz package format
> was not on a level of rpm for example. However, as we were told
> recently on the list, somebody has supposedly developed a package
> management system for slackware that is supposedly really good. I
> haven't used it myself yet, so am repeating what I read at this
> point. I will tell you though that slack 9.0 came out with more
> improved package management tools, which make upgrading a package less
> painful then in previous releases.
>
> > Did you download it from the net or buy the discs from a distributor,
why
> > did you choose what ever method?
> >
>
> So far, I've simply downloaded the disks, instead of buying
> them. Although buying the 4 disk set gave you a few extra things in
> the past (don't know if that's true still as of slack 9.1), they
> weren't extras that I particularly needed. I also liked the fact at
> first that I could try out the os/distribution without paying for more
> then a blank cd (a refreshing thought after having put money into
> Billy boy's wallet before), and downloading it meant that I didn't have to
wait
> for it to get shipped to me.
>
> Hth.
>
> Greg
> P.S. Compared to debian at least, slackware doesn't have as many
> binary packages ready to install. This means that you will be building
> some stuff from source, which is not a bad thing once you get used to
> it.
>
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Re: Distributions with speakup modified kernels?

[Deedra Waters]

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Well, freebsd does not work with speakup.
- From personal experience, I would suggest gentoo or debian. They're both good distros, and their package managers are easy to manage.

i don't know if there are install disks for mandrake, and I've heard good things about slackware. As for redhat, I've heard mixed things. I've used it and don't like it, and a lot of the people I've talked to from various places are starting to become unhappy with it. Then again, a lot of people still like it, so your choice I guess. I've heard similar things about fedora as well.

Honestly, I'd experiment with  a couple of distros, and then decide what you like from that. If you're new to linux, I'd suggest debian, but up to you..


On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, Darragh wrote:

> Hello,
> Ok, I've installed and messed around with Fedora but I'm sick of people, a
> certain person in this country telling me that its not stable, there are
> still bugs, its still an alfa bla bla bla.
> 
> My question:
> I'm being advised to go for another distribution.  Red hat 9 was suggested.
> If I do indeed go for another distribution what would you suggest?  I will
> mainly use speakup and if I can ever get it to work, emacspeak however, I'd
> like to mess around with gnome and gnopernicus.
> 
> I've just spent the last three hours trying to figure out why Winblows xp
> stopped recognising the NTFS partition on this disk when I should have being
> working on stuff for deadlines due tomorrow.
> 
> I'd really appreciate any views you have about any distribution of Linux
> that you've used successfully with speakup.
> The distros that were suggested are:
> mandrake,
> slackware,
> red hat
> suSE
> and
> Free BSD.
> 
> please please let me know.
> 
> 
> Darragh
> 
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Re: Distributions with speakup modified kernels?

[Luke Davis]

Having used Redhat, Slackware, and Debian, at various times during the
years, I am now a dedicated debianite.  Nothing much to add to the
comments below.  The package manager is quite nice, accessible kernels are
readably available (speakup modified, that is), and installs from start to
finish are possible.

Luke


On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, Deedra Waters wrote:

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>
> Well, freebsd does not work with speakup.
> - From personal experience, I would suggest gentoo or debian. They're both good distros, and their package managers are easy to manage.
>
> i don't know if there are install disks for mandrake, and I've heard good things about slackware. As for redhat, I've heard mixed things. I've used it and don't like it, and a lot of the people I've talked to from various places are starting to become unhappy with it. Then again, a lot of people still like it, so your choice I guess. I've heard similar things about fedora as well.
>
> Honestly, I'd experiment with  a couple of distros, and then decide what you like from that. If you're new to linux, I'd suggest debian, but up to you..
>
>
> On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, Darragh wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> > Ok, I've installed and messed around with Fedora but I'm sick of people, a
> > certain person in this country telling me that its not stable, there are
> > still bugs, its still an alfa bla bla bla.
> >

Re: Distributions with speakup modified kernels?

[Ryan Mann]

I like Debian's package management, but sometimes their packages seem a
little more out of date than most distributions and I like the way
Slackware does their RC scripts better than Debian.  For example, in
slackware, if you want to run a program on start up all you have to do is
put it in /etc/rc.d/rc.local, but not with Debian.

On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, Luke Davis wrote:

> Having used Redhat, Slackware, and Debian, at various times during the
> years, I am now a dedicated debianite.  Nothing much to add to the
> comments below.  The package manager is quite nice, accessible kernels are
> readably available (speakup modified, that is), and installs from start to
> finish are possible.
>
> Luke
>
>
> On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, Deedra Waters wrote:
>
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > Well, freebsd does not work with speakup.
> > - From personal experience, I would suggest gentoo or debian. They're both good distros, and their package managers are easy to manage.
> >
> > i don't know if there are install disks for mandrake, and I've heard good things about slackware. As for redhat, I've heard mixed things. I've used it and don't like it, and a lot of the people I've talked to from various places are starting to become unhappy with it. Then again, a lot of people still like it, so your choice I guess. I've heard similar things about fedora as well.
> >
> > Honestly, I'd experiment with  a couple of distros, and then decide what you like from that. If you're new to linux, I'd suggest debian, but up to you..
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, Darragh wrote:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > > Ok, I've installed and messed around with Fedora but I'm sick of people, a
> > > certain person in this country telling me that its not stable, there are
> > > still bugs, its still an alfa bla bla bla.
> > >
>
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Re: Distributions with speakup modified kernels?

[showell]

Well geez seems in your message you've named most all the big distros, 
but you forgot Debian. WHy don't you just ignore this certain comeone 
and use what works for you. Ay there's plenty of stuff that is beta or 
whatever, but thus far I havent' any real complaints with Fedora at all. 
I didn't even have any real complaints with Debian's Sid distro eithe. 
Its all a matter of what you want to do.
My opinion of course.

Scott

Re: Distributions with speakup modified kernels?

[Jacob Schmude]

Hi
Well, sounds to me that you like fedora but don't like this person, whoever 
it is, telling you bad things about it. In this case, why find a new 
distribution at all? Why not just stop listening to this person?
Bottom line: if you like it, keep it, regardless of what others tell you. 
The thing is they can't say that fedora is beta, because there is so much 
software in it. This goes for any distribution. If they can't give you 
specifics, they're likely just going on what they've heard or read and 
probably can't back up their talk... or maybe they just don't like it and 
don't think anyone else should either.

At 17:21 12/1/2003, you wrote:
>Hello,
>Ok, I've installed and messed around with Fedora but I'm sick of people, a
>certain person in this country telling me that its not stable, there are
>still bugs, its still an alfa bla bla bla.

Re: Distributions with speakup modified kernels?

[Hart Larry]

Well, Jacob-and-All, are their any other distributions other than Red Hat which
support a DecTalk PC?  If so, I would be willing with help to try them---thanks
Hart

Re: Distributions with speakup modified kernels?

[Gregory Nowak]

Sure. Any distro built on linux, which can in turn be patched with
speakup, which in turn supports your synth will work with that synth.

Greg


On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 05:40:24PM -0800, Hart Larry wrote:
> Well, Jacob-and-All, are their any other distributions other than Red Hat which
> support a DecTalk PC?  If so, I would be willing with help to try them---thanks
> Hart
> 
> 
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Re: Distributions with speakup modified kernels?

[Kenny Hitt]

Hi.  Any distribution that has the CVS version of speakup built into the
kernel will work.  Debian versions starting with Sarge have support for
it because the speakup package in Debian uses speakup CVS.
My Debian Woody system would have support for it if I rebuilt it's
kernel with the latest speakup. .


          Kenny

	  On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 05:40:24PM -0800, Hart Larry wrote:
> Well, Jacob-and-All, are their any other distributions other than Red Hat which
> support a DecTalk PC?  If so, I would be willing with help to try them---thanks
> Hart
> 
> 
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Re: Distributions with speakup modified kernels?

[Charles Crawford]

I know it is off topic, but what do you find attractive about Debian over 
Rehat?  Is it just what you are used to using?

-- charlie.
At 07:58 PM 12/01/2003 -0600, you wrote:
>Hi.  Any distribution that has the CVS version of speakup built into the
>kernel will work.  Debian versions starting with Sarge have support for
>it because the speakup package in Debian uses speakup CVS.
>My Debian Woody system would have support for it if I rebuilt it's
>kernel with the latest speakup. .
>
>
>           Kenny
>
>           On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 05:40:24PM -0800, Hart Larry wrote:
> > Well, Jacob-and-All, are their any other distributions other than Red 
> Hat which
> > support a DecTalk PC?  If so, I would be willing with help to try 
> them---thanks
> > Hart
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Distributions with speakup modified kernels?

[Kenny Hitt]

Yes.  I started with Debian and just stuck with it.

          Kenny

On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 09:33:23AM -0500, Charles Crawford wrote:
> I know it is off topic, but what do you find attractive about Debian over 
> Rehat?  Is it just what you are used to using?
> 
> -- charlie.
> At 07:58 PM 12/01/2003 -0600, you wrote:
> >Hi.  Any distribution that has the CVS version of speakup built into the
> >kernel will work.  Debian versions starting with Sarge have support for
> >it because the speakup package in Debian uses speakup CVS.
> >My Debian Woody system would have support for it if I rebuilt it's
> >kernel with the latest speakup. .
> >
> >
> >          Kenny
> >
> >          On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 05:40:24PM -0800, Hart Larry wrote:
> >> Well, Jacob-and-All, are their any other distributions other than Red 
> >Hat which
> >> support a DecTalk PC?  If so, I would be willing with help to try 
> >them---thanks
> >> Hart
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: Distributions with speakup modified kernels?

[Charles Crawford]

I used a decpc card with a pc and Redhat 9 and speakup worked well.

-- charlie Crawford.
At 05:40 PM 12/01/2003 -0800, you wrote:
>Well, Jacob-and-All, are their any other distributions other than Red Hat 
>which
>support a DecTalk PC?  If so, I would be willing with help to try 
>them---thanks
>Hart
>
>
>
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Re: Distributions with speakup modified kernels?

[Steve Holmes]

Free BSD is not a linux distribution. That is a totally different animal.
But Debian is another very viable linux distribution and many Speakup users
use it with great satisfaction.  It also has many pre compiled packages and
has an excellent package menagement system.

I personally use slackware; I cut my teeth on it almost ten years ago and
still love it.
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To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 3:21 PM
Subject: Distributions with speakup modified kernels?


> I'd really appreciate any views you have about any distribution of Linux
> that you've used successfully with speakup.
> The distros that were suggested are:
> mandrake,
> slackware,
> red hat
> suSE
> and
> Free BSD.
>
> please please let me know.
>
>
> Darragh
>
>
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Re: Distributions with speakup modified kernels?

[Darragh]

When was the last update to Slackware?  It looks like December 16 2002.  Is
this true?

Thanks

Darragh

Re: Distributions with speakup modified kernels?

[Gregory Nowak]

No, slackware 9.1 (the newest release), came out sometime in early
October 2003 if I'm not mistaken.

Greg


On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 03:02:10PM -0000, Darragh wrote:
> When was the last update to Slackware?  It looks like December 16 2002.  Is
> this true?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Darragh
> 
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Re: Distributions with speakup modified kernels?

[Darragh]

Sorry, how did I make that mistake.  I ment debian.  the dates on the Site
are from last year.

Oh, I'm trying to download the disks from
http://non-us.cdimage.debian.org/jigdo-area/3.0_r1/jigdo/
using jigdo but it keeps saying that the file is rong.

Oh, I add i386/woody-i386.jigdo to that line.

Darragh

Re: Distributions with speakup modified kernels?

[Alex Snow]

no. the last release came out in september of 2003
On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 
at 03:02:10PM -0000, Darragh wrote:
> When was the last update to Slackware?  It looks like December 16 2002.  Is
> this true?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Darragh
> 
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Re: slackware iso's

[Thomas Stivers]

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On 12/01/03  5:12 PM -0500, Christopher Moore wrote:
> Hi gang,
> What do you do with the .asc and .md5 files associated with the slackware
> iso's?  I think they have something to do with checking the accuracy of the
> iso image but not sure how to use them.

They are an md5 checksum and ascii armored openpgp signature. To make
use of them you will need the program md5sum (in the textutils package I
believe) and either gpg or pgp. For the md5 file do "md5sum -c
<md5filename>" and for the asc file use "gpg --verify <ascfilename>".
For the signature you will need the public key of
security@slackware.com, which is available on pgp keyservers everywhere
(I.E. wwwkeys.pgp.net). 

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Re: slackware iso's

[Gregory Nowak]

I used the gpg method you describe below. However, it occurred to me
that there is nothing stopping someone from potentially cracking an
ftp server, and changing the iso image, while leaving the asc file
intact. So, doing gpg --verify <ascfilename> would still tell you the
signature is correct, even though the iso(s) had been messed with.

Am I missing something here, or is this train of thought actually
correct. If this train of thought is correct, then what's the point of
the .asc file, other then to give an unsuspecting user a false sense
of security?

Greg


On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 04:30:41PM -0600, Thomas Stivers wrote:
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> On 12/01/03  5:12 PM -0500, Christopher Moore wrote:
> > Hi gang,
> > What do you do with the .asc and .md5 files associated with the slackware
> > iso's?  I think they have something to do with checking the accuracy of the
> > iso image but not sure how to use them.
> 
> They are an md5 checksum and ascii armored openpgp signature. To make
> use of them you will need the program md5sum (in the textutils package I
> believe) and either gpg or pgp. For the md5 file do "md5sum -c
> <md5filename>" and for the asc file use "gpg --verify <ascfilename>".
> For the signature you will need the public key of
> security@slackware.com, which is available on pgp keyservers everywhere
> (I.E. wwwkeys.pgp.net). 
> 
> - -- 
> Unix is a user friendly operating system. It just picks its friends more
> carefully than others.
> Thomas Stivers	e-mail: stivers_t@tomass.dyndns.org	gpg: 45CBBABD
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Re: slackware iso's

[Alex Snow]

the signature won't varify if the iso has been modified. so 
theoretically the only way of screwing with an iso and not letting the 
user know whould be to somehow obtain the private key of the original 
signer, modify the iso, and regenerate the sig.
On 
Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 05:30:06PM -0600, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> I used the gpg method you describe below. However, it occurred to me
> that there is nothing stopping someone from potentially cracking an
> ftp server, and changing the iso image, while leaving the asc file
> intact. So, doing gpg --verify <ascfilename> would still tell you the
> signature is correct, even though the iso(s) had been messed with.
> 
> Am I missing something here, or is this train of thought actually
> correct. If this train of thought is correct, then what's the point of
> the .asc file, other then to give an unsuspecting user a false sense
> of security?
> 
> Greg
> 
> 
> On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 04:30:41PM -0600, Thomas Stivers wrote:
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > Hash: SHA1
> > 
> > On 12/01/03  5:12 PM -0500, Christopher Moore wrote:
> > > Hi gang,
> > > What do you do with the .asc and .md5 files associated with the slackware
> > > iso's?  I think they have something to do with checking the accuracy of the
> > > iso image but not sure how to use them.
> > 
> > They are an md5 checksum and ascii armored openpgp signature. To make
> > use of them you will need the program md5sum (in the textutils package I
> > believe) and either gpg or pgp. For the md5 file do "md5sum -c
> > <md5filename>" and for the asc file use "gpg --verify <ascfilename>".
> > For the signature you will need the public key of
> > security@slackware.com, which is available on pgp keyservers everywhere
> > (I.E. wwwkeys.pgp.net). 
> > 
> > - -- 
> > Unix is a user friendly operating system. It just picks its friends more
> > carefully than others.
> > Thomas Stivers	e-mail: stivers_t@tomass.dyndns.org	gpg: 45CBBABD
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Re: slackware iso's

[Thomas Stivers]

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On 12/01/03  5:30 PM -0600, Gregory Nowak wrote:
> I used the gpg method you describe below. However, it occurred to me
> that there is nothing stopping someone from potentially cracking an
> ftp server, and changing the iso image, while leaving the asc file
> intact. So, doing gpg --verify <ascfilename> would still tell you the
> signature is correct, even though the iso(s) had been messed with.

The signature file is verified against the iso. If you didn't have it in
the same directory or if it was corrupted the signature wouldn't verify.

> Am I missing something here, or is this train of thought actually
> correct. If this train of thought is correct, then what's the point of
> the .asc file, other then to give an unsuspecting user a false sense
> of security?

I suppose it is possible that someone could generate a new key with a
userid of security@slackware.com, but you would probably hear about
something like that from other sources.

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Re: slackware iso's

[Alex Snow]

they are for paranoid people who think everything's out to get them.
all you need to do is check the size of the isos you got and the isos 
on the server. if they match then you probably got a complete set.
I have no idea how to varify the md5 checksum of the isos under 
winblows nor the signature (the .asc file). I do know you need gpg and 
the public key used to sign the isos.
On 
Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 05:12:30PM -0500, Christopher Moore wrote:
> Hi gang,
> What do you do with the .asc and .md5 files associated with the slackware
> iso's?  I think they have something to do with checking the accuracy of the
> iso image but not sure how to use them.
> 
> Thanks.
> Chris
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