Ways of distributing Speakup Modified Fedora.

Ways of distributing Speakup Modified Fedora.

[William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-722-7209]

Hi all,

      Starting with the release of Fedora 7 (Moonshine), Red Hat has only 
posted DVDs of the distro.  For 7, we produced Cd's in addition.  Now 
that we're getting ready to release the Speakup Modified version of F8, I 
wonder if we can drop the Cd's as Red Hat has already done.  There is a 
possible bug in the upstream distribution process causing me to be unable 
to produce Cd's.  The maintainer of Pungi, the tool we use to build 
the distro has agreed to take a look at it, but I don't know what he'll be 
able to do.

      In addition, we're going to release an x86_64 version this time which 
will a little more than double the space required to store it all on the 
server which holds the images for download.

      Let me know what y'all think.



  -- Bill in Denver

Re: Ways of distributing Speakup Modified Fedora.

[jaffar]

Hi Bill.  Dvd releases of linux seems to bhe the norm rather than the 
fashion right now, so i guess it should be acceptable.  Cheers!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-722-7209" <wacker@octothorp.org>
To: "SPEAKUP Distribution List" <speakup@speech.braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 10:46 AM
Subject: Ways of distributing Speakup Modified Fedora.


> Hi all,
>
>      Starting with the release of Fedora 7 (Moonshine), Red Hat has only
> posted DVDs of the distro.  For 7, we produced Cd's in addition.  Now
> that we're getting ready to release the Speakup Modified version of F8, I
> wonder if we can drop the Cd's as Red Hat has already done.  There is a
> possible bug in the upstream distribution process causing me to be unable
> to produce Cd's.  The maintainer of Pungi, the tool we use to build
> the distro has agreed to take a look at it, but I don't know what he'll be
> able to do.
>
>      In addition, we're going to release an x86_64 version this time which
> will a little more than double the space required to store it all on the
> server which holds the images for download.
>
>      Let me know what y'all think.
>
>
>
>  -- Bill in Denver
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
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Re: Ways of distributing Speakup Modified Fedora.

[Richard Villa]

I imagine that most people should have a DVD burner or access to one so, DVD 
is the direction we should go.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-722-7209" <wacker@octothorp.org>
To: "SPEAKUP Distribution List" <speakup@speech.braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 8:46 PM
Subject: Ways of distributing Speakup Modified Fedora.


> Hi all,
>
>      Starting with the release of Fedora 7 (Moonshine), Red Hat has only
> posted DVDs of the distro.  For 7, we produced Cd's in addition.  Now
> that we're getting ready to release the Speakup Modified version of F8, I
> wonder if we can drop the Cd's as Red Hat has already done.  There is a
> possible bug in the upstream distribution process causing me to be unable
> to produce Cd's.  The maintainer of Pungi, the tool we use to build
> the distro has agreed to take a look at it, but I don't know what he'll be
> able to do.
>
>      In addition, we're going to release an x86_64 version this time which
> will a little more than double the space required to store it all on the
> server which holds the images for download.
>
>      Let me know what y'all think.
>
>
>
>  -- Bill in Denver
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup 

Re: Ways of distributing Speakup Modified Fedora.

[Kerry Hoath]

I am happy to seed torrents if such exist;

whilst I only have 50 killobytes per second outbound here; I have ports well 
forwarded and show up well in both any tracked swarm and on the dht network.

Regards, Kerry.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-722-7209" <wacker@octothorp.org>
To: "SPEAKUP Distribution List" <speakup@speech.braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 11:46 AM
Subject: Ways of distributing Speakup Modified Fedora.


> Hi all,
>
>      Starting with the release of Fedora 7 (Moonshine), Red Hat has only
> posted DVDs of the distro.  For 7, we produced Cd's
...

Re: Ways of distributing Speakup Modified Fedora.

[Albert E. Sten-Clanton]

Hi, Bill!

I'm among those who don't have DVD burners.  I don't know when I'll get one.  If you can make a boot or rescue CD, though, I can install Fedora 8 the only way I ever installed FC6, from a DVD image in my home partition.  If my hard drive's partition table gets screwed up, which has happened before, then I should be able to use GRML to set things right and then install Fedora.  At least, that's my guess.

I note that a few years ago one of the much-touted benefits of Linux was that you could use it on older equipment.  I take it that's one thing you can't say about Fedora or Red Hat any longer.  It becomes less affordable that way.  I know of course that this isn't your doing, and that you've got a problem to solve, but it deserves mention.

Al
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-722-7209" <wacker@octothorp.org>
To: "SPEAKUP Distribution List" <speakup@speech.braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 9:46 PM
Subject: Ways of distributing Speakup Modified Fedora.


> Hi all,
> 
>       Starting with the release of Fedora 7 (Moonshine), Red Hat has only 
> posted DVDs of the distro.  For 7, we produced Cd's in addition.  Now 
> that we're getting ready to release the Speakup Modified version of F8, I 
> wonder if we can drop the Cd's as Red Hat has already done.  There is a 
> possible bug in the upstream distribution process causing me to be unable 
> to produce Cd's.  The maintainer of Pungi, the tool we use to build 
> the distro has agreed to take a look at it, but I don't know what he'll be 
> able to do.
> 
>       In addition, we're going to release an x86_64 version this time which 
> will a little more than double the space required to store it all on the 
> server which holds the images for download.
> 
>       Let me know what y'all think.
> 
> 
> 
>   -- Bill in Denver
> 
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Re: Ways of distributing Speakup Modified Fedora.

[William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-722-7209]

there will be a rescue disk for sure.  As for the resource requirements of 
Linux vs that other OS, I haven't seen the stats lately although everyone 
seems to be saying that if you want to run Vista, it'll take more computer 
than you needed with XP.  That said, I might as well gripe about something 
that's always bugged me about the community.  We have an awful lot of 
Linux dabblers.  Folks who, for whatever reason, feel that they just have 
to experience Linux, just to feel well-rounded, I suppose.  What I find is 
that they reserve their best hardware for Windows, which remains their 
primary OS, and put Linux on their junk hardware.  In fact, I even know 
someone who has named his Linux system to match its hardware.  He calls it 
"junkbox".

      I guess, what I'm trying to say is that I'd prefer to support those 
who are serious about learning and using Linux for real. These days, I 
pretty much tell folks that I don't support dual booting, or as Ann calls 
it, duel booting which is really a better name for it.


-- 
Bill in Denver

On Sat, 24 Nov 2007, Albert E. Sten-Clanton wrote:

> Hi, Bill!
>
> I'm among those who don't have DVD burners.  I don't know when I'll get one.  If you can make a boot or rescue CD, though, I can install Fedora 8 the only way I ever installed FC6, from a DVD image in my home partition.  If my hard drive's partition table gets screwed up, which has happened before, then I should be able to use GRML to set things right and then install Fedora.  At least, that's my guess.
>
> I note that a few years ago one of the much-touted benefits of Linux was that you could use it on older equipment.  I take it that's one thing you can't say about Fedora or Red Hat any longer.  It becomes less affordable that way.  I know of course that this isn't your doing, and that you've got a problem to solve, but it deserves mention.
>
> Al
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-722-7209" <wacker@octothorp.org>
> To: "SPEAKUP Distribution List" <speakup@speech.braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 9:46 PM
> Subject: Ways of distributing Speakup Modified Fedora.
>
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>       Starting with the release of Fedora 7 (Moonshine), Red Hat has only
>> posted DVDs of the distro.  For 7, we produced Cd's in addition.  Now
>> that we're getting ready to release the Speakup Modified version of F8, I
>> wonder if we can drop the Cd's as Red Hat has already done.  There is a
>> possible bug in the upstream distribution process causing me to be unable
>> to produce Cd's.  The maintainer of Pungi, the tool we use to build
>> the distro has agreed to take a look at it, but I don't know what he'll be
>> able to do.
>>
>>       In addition, we're going to release an x86_64 version this time which
>> will a little more than double the space required to store it all on the
>> server which holds the images for download.
>>
>>       Let me know what y'all think.
>>
>>
>>
>>   -- Bill in Denver
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>
>>
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Re: Ways of distributing Speakup Modified Fedora.

[Albert E. Sten-Clanton]

I'm glad about the rescue disk.

The Linux box is the better one in this house, since I got it later.  That probably will change soon, since it looks like we'll have to replace this one with that other operating system on it.  I'm still a long way off from being able to use only Linux.

Al
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From: "William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-722-7209" <wacker@octothorp.org>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: Ways of distributing Speakup Modified Fedora.


> there will be a rescue disk for sure.  As for the resource requirements of 
> Linux vs that other OS, I haven't seen the stats lately although everyone 
> seems to be saying that if you want to run Vista, it'll take more computer 
> than you needed with XP.  That said, I might as well gripe about something 
> that's always bugged me about the community.  We have an awful lot of 
> Linux dabblers.  Folks who, for whatever reason, feel that they just have 
> to experience Linux, just to feel well-rounded, I suppose.  What I find is 
> that they reserve their best hardware for Windows, which remains their 
> primary OS, and put Linux on their junk hardware.  In fact, I even know 
> someone who has named his Linux system to match its hardware.  He calls it 
> "junkbox".
> 
>       I guess, what I'm trying to say is that I'd prefer to support those 
> who are serious about learning and using Linux for real. These days, I 
> pretty much tell folks that I don't support dual booting, or as Ann calls 
> it, duel booting which is really a better name for it.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Bill in Denver
> 
> On Sat, 24 Nov 2007, Albert E. Sten-Clanton wrote:
> 
> > Hi, Bill!
> >
> > I'm among those who don't have DVD burners.  I don't know when I'll get one.  If you can make a boot or rescue CD, though, I can install Fedora 8 the only way I ever installed FC6, from a DVD image in my home partition.  If my hard drive's partition table gets screwed up, which has happened before, then I should be able to use GRML to set things right and then install Fedora.  At least, that's my guess.
> >
> > I note that a few years ago one of the much-touted benefits of Linux was that you could use it on older equipment.  I take it that's one thing you can't say about Fedora or Red Hat any longer.  It becomes less affordable that way.  I know of course that this isn't your doing, and that you've got a problem to solve, but it deserves mention.
> >
> > Al
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-722-7209" <wacker@octothorp.org>
> > To: "SPEAKUP Distribution List" <speakup@speech.braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 9:46 PM
> > Subject: Ways of distributing Speakup Modified Fedora.
> >
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >>       Starting with the release of Fedora 7 (Moonshine), Red Hat has only
> >> posted DVDs of the distro.  For 7, we produced Cd's in addition.  Now
> >> that we're getting ready to release the Speakup Modified version of F8, I
> >> wonder if we can drop the Cd's as Red Hat has already done.  There is a
> >> possible bug in the upstream distribution process causing me to be unable
> >> to produce Cd's.  The maintainer of Pungi, the tool we use to build
> >> the distro has agreed to take a look at it, but I don't know what he'll be
> >> able to do.
> >>
> >>       In addition, we're going to release an x86_64 version this time which
> >> will a little more than double the space required to store it all on the
> >> server which holds the images for download.
> >>
> >>       Let me know what y'all think.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>   -- Bill in Denver
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Speakup mailing list
> >> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> >> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >>
> >>
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Re: Ways of distributing Speakup Modified Fedora.

[Chris Norman]

I think a DVD is fine, especiall as you can install from hard disk (as I
did).

It's probably good practise to keep one partition for /home all the time
anyways.

HTH.

On Fri, 2007-11-23 at 19:46 -0700, William F. Acker WB2FLW
+1-303-722-7209 wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
>       Starting with the release of Fedora 7 (Moonshine), Red Hat has only 
> posted DVDs of the distro.  For 7, we produced Cd's in addition.  Now 
> that we're getting ready to release the Speakup Modified version of F8, I 
> wonder if we can drop the Cd's as Red Hat has already done.  There is a 
> possible bug in the upstream distribution process causing me to be unable 
> to produce Cd's.  The maintainer of Pungi, the tool we use to build 
> the distro has agreed to take a look at it, but I don't know what he'll be 
> able to do.
> 
>       In addition, we're going to release an x86_64 version this time which 
> will a little more than double the space required to store it all on the 
> server which holds the images for download.
> 
>       Let me know what y'all think.
> 
> 
> 
>   -- Bill in Denver
> 
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