boot loaders

boot loaders

[Allan Shaw]

Hi folks,

I've seen talk on this list about different boot loaders such as Lilo and 
Grub.  Are there any pro vs cons someone should be aware of if using one 
over the other with speakup?

Installing fedora from isos on HD?

[Al Puzzuoli]

Hi,

i am attempting to install the Speakup enabled Fedora via isos on my HD.  I
downloaded the three Yaro binary isos, as well as the boot.iso from
linux-speakup.org.  i burned boot.iso to a cd and am booting from that disk.
When I specify that I want to install from the HD and provide the path to my
isos, I get the following error.  "The Fedora core installation tree in that
directory does not seem to match your boot media.

Is there anything I can do to resolve this or is there a discrepancy in the
isos?

Thanks,

Re: Installing fedora from isos on HD?

[William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-722-7209]

Hi, Al,


     Long time, no hear.  Were all the ISO's downloaded around the same 
time?  The easiest thing to do might be to download the boot.iso and try 
again.  Oh, reading over your message, it isn't clear to me that you got 
all your ISO's from the Speakup site.  If, by chance, you got the three 
installation disks from somewhere else, then download the boot-orig.iso 
file from the Speakup site.  If you do this, you'll have to manually 
install the Speakup kernels after installation.  If you have any 
questions, call or write.  Calling will most likely get a quicker 
response.
-- 
 Bill in Denver

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Al Puzzuoli wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> i am attempting to install the Speakup enabled Fedora via isos on my HD.  I
> downloaded the three Yaro binary isos, as well as the boot.iso from
> linux-speakup.org.  i burned boot.iso to a cd and am booting from that disk.
> When I specify that I want to install from the HD and provide the path to my
> isos, I get the following error.  "The Fedora core installation tree in that
> directory does not seem to match your boot media.
> 
> Is there anything I can do to resolve this or is there a discrepancy in the
> isos?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

Re: Installing fedora from isos on HD?

[Al Puzzuoli]

Hi Bill,

Thanks as always for your very prompt response.
I downloaded the isos last evening from ftp://linux-speakup.org, but
something is very strange.  So far, I am noticing the following problems:

1.  The issue I mensioned earlier about not being able to install from isos
on the HD.
2.  it seems like the Speakup kernel is either not being installed, or the
speakup_synth parameter is not being passed to the kernel.
I know that at least disk 1 is correct because when I boot it and do text
speakup_synth=ltlk, the installer comes up talking.
I am selecting grub as my boot loader, and it looks like the installer is
configuring grub to pass the speakup_synth=ltlk parameter at boot time;
However, once the install finishes and the system reboots, I have no speech.
I have even tried to  pass the parameter manually, but I am not as familiar
with grub so am not sure if I'm doing it correctly.  the syntax i have used
is "a speakup_synth=ltlk".
I appreciate your offer of assistance via phone and will gladly take you up
on it if I can't resolve this soon.  What times are convenient for you to
receive calls?

Thanks again,

Re: Installing fedora from isos on HD?

[William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-722-7209]

Hi,

     The boot parameter is only useful when Speakup is built into the 
kernel, as it is on the installation disk.  The running system uses 
modules for Speakup.  Therefore, as root, do:
modprobe speakup_ltlk
You can loadd the modules to your initrd file to have Speakup start 
automatically on boot.
          HTH.
-- 


Bill in Denver

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Al Puzzuoli wrote:

> Hi Bill,
> 
> Thanks as always for your very prompt response.
> I downloaded the isos last evening from ftp://linux-speakup.org, but
> something is very strange.  So far, I am noticing the following problems:
> 
> 1.  The issue I mensioned earlier about not being able to install from isos
> on the HD.
> 2.  it seems like the Speakup kernel is either not being installed, or the
> speakup_synth parameter is not being passed to the kernel.
> I know that at least disk 1 is correct because when I boot it and do text
> speakup_synth=ltlk, the installer comes up talking.
> I am selecting grub as my boot loader, and it looks like the installer is
> configuring grub to pass the speakup_synth=ltlk parameter at boot time;
> However, once the install finishes and the system reboots, I have no speech.
> I have even tried to  pass the parameter manually, but I am not as familiar
> with grub so am not sure if I'm doing it correctly.  the syntax i have used
> is "a speakup_synth=ltlk".
> I appreciate your offer of assistance via phone and will gladly take you up
> on it if I can't resolve this soon.  What times are convenient for you to
> receive calls?
> 
> Thanks again,
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

Re: Installing fedora from isos on HD?

[Krister Ekstrom]

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Hi All,
  I'm at just about the same point as Al in his letter quoted below,
  so would also be greatful for any info on this, Bill. I assume i'll
  have to do a InitRd with the speakup parameters on them, but i can
  for the life of me not remember the syntax for this. I'm also in a
  dual boot environment with Windows XP and Fedora core and have Grub
  as my boot loader.
  Any info on this would be greatly appreciated.
  /K

On 21 Nov 2003 23:27:32  (my local time 22 nov 2003 05:27:32), you
typed::
AP> Hi Bill,

AP> Thanks as always for your very prompt response.
AP> I downloaded the isos last evening from ftp://linux-speakup.org, but
AP> something is very strange.  So far, I am noticing the following problems:

AP> 1.  The issue I mensioned earlier about not being able to install from isos
AP> on the HD.
AP> 2.  it seems like the Speakup kernel is either not being installed, or the
AP> speakup_synth parameter is not being passed to the kernel.
AP> I know that at least disk 1 is correct because when I boot it and do text
AP> speakup_synth=ltlk, the installer comes up talking.
AP> I am selecting grub as my boot loader, and it looks like the installer is
AP> configuring grub to pass the speakup_synth=ltlk parameter at boot time;
AP> However, once the install finishes and the system reboots, I have no speech.
AP> I have even tried to  pass the parameter manually, but I am not as familiar
AP> with grub so am not sure if I'm doing it correctly.  the syntax i have used
AP> is "a speakup_synth=ltlk".
AP> I appreciate your offer of assistance via phone and will gladly take you up
AP> on it if I can't resolve this soon.  What times are convenient for you to
AP> receive calls?

AP> Thanks again,



AP> _______________________________________________
AP> Speakup mailing list
AP> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
AP> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Re: Installing fedora from isos on HD?

[kevin]

Well ain't that just a kick in the ass?
I would like this opertunity to note all the little bugs that crop up in
Linux.  What a shame...now if someone would kindly give me the link for the
kernal and the email for the person in charge we would not have such
problems.
Kevin
email:
kjsisco@rcn.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-722-7209" <wacker@octothorp.org>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 1:25 AM
Subject: Re: Installing fedora from isos on HD?


> Hi,
>
>      The boot parameter is only useful when Speakup is built into the
> kernel, as it is on the installation disk.  The running system uses
> modules for Speakup.  Therefore, as root, do:
> modprobe speakup_ltlk
> You can loadd the modules to your initrd file to have Speakup start
> automatically on boot.
>           HTH.
> -- 
>
>
> Bill in Denver
>
> On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Al Puzzuoli wrote:
>
> > Hi Bill,
> >
> > Thanks as always for your very prompt response.
> > I downloaded the isos last evening from ftp://linux-speakup.org, but
> > something is very strange.  So far, I am noticing the following
problems:
> >
> > 1.  The issue I mensioned earlier about not being able to install from
isos
> > on the HD.
> > 2.  it seems like the Speakup kernel is either not being installed, or
the
> > speakup_synth parameter is not being passed to the kernel.
> > I know that at least disk 1 is correct because when I boot it and do
text
> > speakup_synth=ltlk, the installer comes up talking.
> > I am selecting grub as my boot loader, and it looks like the installer
is
> > configuring grub to pass the speakup_synth=ltlk parameter at boot time;
> > However, once the install finishes and the system reboots, I have no
speech.
> > I have even tried to  pass the parameter manually, but I am not as
familiar
> > with grub so am not sure if I'm doing it correctly.  the syntax i have
used
> > is "a speakup_synth=ltlk".
> > I appreciate your offer of assistance via phone and will gladly take you
up
> > on it if I can't resolve this soon.  What times are convenient for you
to
> > receive calls?
> >
> > Thanks again,
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

Re: Installing fedora from isos on HD?

[Alex Snow]

http://www.kernel.org
On Sat, Nov 22, 2003 at 06:53:50PM -0500, kevin 
wrote:
> Well ain't that just a kick in the ass?
> I would like this opertunity to note all the little bugs that crop up in
> Linux.  What a shame...now if someone would kindly give me the link for the
> kernal and the email for the person in charge we would not have such
> problems.
> Kevin
> email:
> kjsisco@rcn.com
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-722-7209" <wacker@octothorp.org>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 1:25 AM
> Subject: Re: Installing fedora from isos on HD?
> 
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> >      The boot parameter is only useful when Speakup is built into the
> > kernel, as it is on the installation disk.  The running system uses
> > modules for Speakup.  Therefore, as root, do:
> > modprobe speakup_ltlk
> > You can loadd the modules to your initrd file to have Speakup start
> > automatically on boot.
> >           HTH.
> > -- 
> >
> >
> > Bill in Denver
> >
> > On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Al Puzzuoli wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Bill,
> > >
> > > Thanks as always for your very prompt response.
> > > I downloaded the isos last evening from ftp://linux-speakup.org, but
> > > something is very strange.  So far, I am noticing the following
> problems:
> > >
> > > 1.  The issue I mensioned earlier about not being able to install from
> isos
> > > on the HD.
> > > 2.  it seems like the Speakup kernel is either not being installed, or
> the
> > > speakup_synth parameter is not being passed to the kernel.
> > > I know that at least disk 1 is correct because when I boot it and do
> text
> > > speakup_synth=ltlk, the installer comes up talking.
> > > I am selecting grub as my boot loader, and it looks like the installer
> is
> > > configuring grub to pass the speakup_synth=ltlk parameter at boot time;
> > > However, once the install finishes and the system reboots, I have no
> speech.
> > > I have even tried to  pass the parameter manually, but I am not as
> familiar
> > > with grub so am not sure if I'm doing it correctly.  the syntax i have
> used
> > > is "a speakup_synth=ltlk".
> > > I appreciate your offer of assistance via phone and will gladly take you
> up
> > > on it if I can't resolve this soon.  What times are convenient for you
> to
> > > receive calls?
> > >
> > > Thanks again,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

-- 
Who is General Failure and why is he reading my hard disk?

Re: Installing fedora from isos on HD?

[kevin]

Thanks, I have bookmarked it.
Kevin
email:
kjsisco@rcn.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alex Snow" <alex_snow@gmx.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: Installing fedora from isos on HD?


> http://www.kernel.org
> On Sat, Nov 22, 2003 at 06:53:50PM -0500, kevin
> wrote:
> > Well ain't that just a kick in the ass?
> > I would like this opertunity to note all the little bugs that crop up in
> > Linux.  What a shame...now if someone would kindly give me the link for
the
> > kernal and the email for the person in charge we would not have such
> > problems.
> > Kevin
> > email:
> > kjsisco@rcn.com
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-722-7209" <wacker@octothorp.org>
> > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."
<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 1:25 AM
> > Subject: Re: Installing fedora from isos on HD?
> >
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > >      The boot parameter is only useful when Speakup is built into the
> > > kernel, as it is on the installation disk.  The running system uses
> > > modules for Speakup.  Therefore, as root, do:
> > > modprobe speakup_ltlk
> > > You can loadd the modules to your initrd file to have Speakup start
> > > automatically on boot.
> > >           HTH.
> > > -- 
> > >
> > >
> > > Bill in Denver
> > >
> > > On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Al Puzzuoli wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Bill,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks as always for your very prompt response.
> > > > I downloaded the isos last evening from ftp://linux-speakup.org, but
> > > > something is very strange.  So far, I am noticing the following
> > problems:
> > > >
> > > > 1.  The issue I mensioned earlier about not being able to install
from
> > isos
> > > > on the HD.
> > > > 2.  it seems like the Speakup kernel is either not being installed,
or
> > the
> > > > speakup_synth parameter is not being passed to the kernel.
> > > > I know that at least disk 1 is correct because when I boot it and do
> > text
> > > > speakup_synth=ltlk, the installer comes up talking.
> > > > I am selecting grub as my boot loader, and it looks like the
installer
> > is
> > > > configuring grub to pass the speakup_synth=ltlk parameter at boot
time;
> > > > However, once the install finishes and the system reboots, I have no
> > speech.
> > > > I have even tried to  pass the parameter manually, but I am not as
> > familiar
> > > > with grub so am not sure if I'm doing it correctly.  the syntax i
have
> > used
> > > > is "a speakup_synth=ltlk".
> > > > I appreciate your offer of assistance via phone and will gladly take
you
> > up
> > > > on it if I can't resolve this soon.  What times are convenient for
you
> > to
> > > > receive calls?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks again,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
> -- 
> Who is General Failure and why is he reading my hard disk?
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>