* FreeBSD, SUSE, keyboard shortcuts, e-zine
@ Tony Baechler
` Saqib Shaikh
` Thomas Ward
0 siblings, 2 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Tony Baechler @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Hello all. I have many different questions to cover in this message, thus
the unusual subject line. I hope some of this will be useful, and thanks
in advance for any answers or corrections.
1. Would it be possible to get Speakup to work with FreeBSD? I looked at
it and it is obviously not Linux, but it seems to be very similar. I
suppose it would not be practical to try to patch that kernel since it
seems to be different, but I am wondering if it could be done. I would
like to try FreeBSD on another computer but I need speech.
2. Has anyone made plans or attempted to make talking SUSE Linux boot
disks? How were the Debian and Slackware disks modified? I suppose the
kernels (the main kernel and the install kernel) would need to be hacked
to include it and recompiled, but I know nothing about other logistics
involved. I would consider doing such a project if there are enough
interested people and if I can figure out how. I will admit that I have
absolutely no knowledge of SUSE at all except by looking at the ftp site,
but it looks interesting and seems to have potential.
3. There was some discussion before about using the Windows keys for
Speakup. I am not sure how the Speakup keys themselves can be modified,
but I have found a way to make the three Windows keys useful just the
same. I use the left key to go to the last console and the two right keys
like the Alt with left and right arrows. This is simple to do, all it
needs is three lines. I created /etc/keymap for the purpose and have it
called at boot. You must have loadkeys for this to work, but it should be
in any standard distribution since keymaps and other important things
would not work without the kbd package. All usual disclaimers apply. It
works great on my system, but who knows about yours. Also, the keycodes I
give here work with my Windows-enabled keyboard but yours might be
different. I recommend running "showkey" and pressing the three keys to
get their correct keycodes. In Slackware 8.0, loadkeys and showkey are in
/usr/bin but may be different for you. You can just pipe them or use
something like this in your rc.M or rc.local scripts:
. /usr/bin/loadkeys /etc/keymap
Anyway, here are the important lines. Watch the capitalization and
underlines or it will not work.
#set left Windows key to return to last console
KeyCode 125 = Last_Console
#Set the right Windows keys to move between consoles
Keycode 126 = Decr_Console
KeyCode 127 = Incr_Console
Anyway, let me know how this works. For DJC and others without Windows
keys, a little tinkering can be used. You could use Alt+Tab I am sure, or
Alt+Space. I do not know about Control and Space though.
I recently found an excellent online magazine all about Linux. It was
from this that I learned the above. If it has been mentioned here, I did
not read it. It is the Linux Gazette. It does have some sponsors but no
ads to speak of. You can read it on the web or get html files with ftp.
They also have plain ASCII text versions but I found that the html reads
better. It works very well with Lynx. To read online, go to:
http://www.linuxgazette.com/
To read the current issue, go to:
http://www.linuxgazette.com/current/
To get it with ftp, go to:
ftp://ftp.ssc.com/pub/lg/
Note that there are lots of mirrors so if you are not in the US I am sure
there is a mirror close to you. It is also part of the LDP so mirrors of
linuxdoc.org should carry it. Be aware that the ftp files are in tar.gz
format and can be large because they have graphics. Most images are
contained in their own subdirectory so it is easy to remove them. Even
the very early issues are packed with useful tips. There is a long
article about keyboards and consoles in issue 8. Enjoy. Sorry for
rambling.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: FreeBSD, SUSE, keyboard shortcuts, e-zine
FreeBSD, SUSE, keyboard shortcuts, e-zine Tony Baechler
@ ` Saqib Shaikh
` Buddy Brannan
` Thomas Ward
1 sibling, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Saqib Shaikh @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Hi,
I doubt that Speakup will ever work on FreeBSD since I think the internal
working of the Kernel is so different that Speakup would need to almost be
rewritten. However you could run Speakup on your current machine and then
telnet into the FreeBSD machine or use a program like Minicom.
Hope this helps.
Saqib
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Baechler" <tony@baechler.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2001 1:20 PM
Subject: FreeBSD, SUSE, keyboard shortcuts, e-zine
> Hello all. I have many different questions to cover in this message, thus
> the unusual subject line. I hope some of this will be useful, and thanks
> in advance for any answers or corrections.
>
> 1. Would it be possible to get Speakup to work with FreeBSD? I looked at
> it and it is obviously not Linux, but it seems to be very similar. I
> suppose it would not be practical to try to patch that kernel since it
> seems to be different, but I am wondering if it could be done. I would
> like to try FreeBSD on another computer but I need speech.
>
> 2. Has anyone made plans or attempted to make talking SUSE Linux boot
> disks? How were the Debian and Slackware disks modified? I suppose the
> kernels (the main kernel and the install kernel) would need to be hacked
> to include it and recompiled, but I know nothing about other logistics
> involved. I would consider doing such a project if there are enough
> interested people and if I can figure out how. I will admit that I have
> absolutely no knowledge of SUSE at all except by looking at the ftp site,
> but it looks interesting and seems to have potential.
>
> 3. There was some discussion before about using the Windows keys for
> Speakup. I am not sure how the Speakup keys themselves can be modified,
> but I have found a way to make the three Windows keys useful just the
> same. I use the left key to go to the last console and the two right keys
> like the Alt with left and right arrows. This is simple to do, all it
> needs is three lines. I created /etc/keymap for the purpose and have it
> called at boot. You must have loadkeys for this to work, but it should be
> in any standard distribution since keymaps and other important things
> would not work without the kbd package. All usual disclaimers apply. It
> works great on my system, but who knows about yours. Also, the keycodes I
> give here work with my Windows-enabled keyboard but yours might be
> different. I recommend running "showkey" and pressing the three keys to
> get their correct keycodes. In Slackware 8.0, loadkeys and showkey are in
> /usr/bin but may be different for you. You can just pipe them or use
> something like this in your rc.M or rc.local scripts:
>
> . /usr/bin/loadkeys /etc/keymap
>
> Anyway, here are the important lines. Watch the capitalization and
> underlines or it will not work.
>
> #set left Windows key to return to last console
> KeyCode 125 = Last_Console
> #Set the right Windows keys to move between consoles
> Keycode 126 = Decr_Console
> KeyCode 127 = Incr_Console
>
> Anyway, let me know how this works. For DJC and others without Windows
> keys, a little tinkering can be used. You could use Alt+Tab I am sure, or
> Alt+Space. I do not know about Control and Space though.
>
> I recently found an excellent online magazine all about Linux. It was
> from this that I learned the above. If it has been mentioned here, I did
> not read it. It is the Linux Gazette. It does have some sponsors but no
> ads to speak of. You can read it on the web or get html files with ftp.
> They also have plain ASCII text versions but I found that the html reads
> better. It works very well with Lynx. To read online, go to:
>
> http://www.linuxgazette.com/
>
> To read the current issue, go to:
>
> http://www.linuxgazette.com/current/
>
> To get it with ftp, go to:
>
> ftp://ftp.ssc.com/pub/lg/
>
> Note that there are lots of mirrors so if you are not in the US I am sure
> there is a mirror close to you. It is also part of the LDP so mirrors of
> linuxdoc.org should carry it. Be aware that the ftp files are in tar.gz
> format and can be large because they have graphics. Most images are
> contained in their own subdirectory so it is easy to remove them. Even
> the very early issues are packed with useful tips. There is a long
> article about keyboards and consoles in issue 8. Enjoy. Sorry for
> rambling.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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* Re: FreeBSD, SUSE, keyboard shortcuts, e-zine
FreeBSD, SUSE, keyboard shortcuts, e-zine Tony Baechler
` Saqib Shaikh
@ ` Thomas Ward
1 sibling, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Thomas Ward @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Hi, Tony. Well, Speakup wouldn't work on the FBSD kernel, but I have a
custumized boot disk for FBSD 4.4 that allows you to get speech output via a
term program for the install and restart. You need some serial cables and a
good term program as minicom under Linux, or hyper terminal to get it going.
A friend and I are thinking eventually in porting Emacspeak to FBSD, and it
looks like it is possible.
As for Seuse Linux haven't played around with it for several versions.
However, the braille support looks intresting. Well, if you need help
building a speech distribution of Seuse perhaps I can help some.
Esentually, what you do here is build a zImage of the kernel for the boot
disk and make a boot disk like the cdrom.img or what ever they use. Then,
you make a standard bzImage with all the features they use in there kernel,
and then you patch Seuse, and make a new set of kernel rpm's and put them on
the cd instead of the old ones.
I've not actually done this before, but I have a pretty good idea of what is
involved. I had studied up a while back on seeing if I could make Mandrake
speakup ready, and I could have except it was a lot of work I didn't feel
like doing at the time.
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* Re: FreeBSD, SUSE, keyboard shortcuts, e-zine
` Saqib Shaikh
@ ` Buddy Brannan
0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Buddy Brannan @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Then, there's always YASR if you wanna use FreeBSD...
I've tried it only briefly, but it seems to work:
http://mgorse.home.dhs.org
--
Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV | From the pines down to the projects,
Email: davros@ycardz.com | Life pushes up through the cracks.
Phone: (972) 276-6360 | And it's only going forward,
ICQ: 36621210 | And it's never going back.--Small Potatoes
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* RE: FreeBSD, SUSE, keyboard shortcuts, e-zine
@ mo.valli
0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: mo.valli @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup, tward
Thomas,
I'm very interested in your boot disk for FBSD 4.4. May I have a copy and
where can I get it from? I have the serial cable and will be using termpro
under windows. I'm correct in thinking that using your boot disk, I will be
able to manage the complete installation and restart using termpro?
Kind regards
Mo.
-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Ward [mailto:tward@bright.net]
Sent: 27 October 2001 15:58
To: speakup
Subject: Re: FreeBSD, SUSE, keyboard shortcuts, e-zine
Hi, Tony. Well, Speakup wouldn't work on the FBSD kernel, but I have a
custumized boot disk for FBSD 4.4 that allows you to get speech output via a
term program for the install and restart. You need some serial cables and a
good term program as minicom under Linux, or hyper terminal to get it going.
A friend and I are thinking eventually in porting Emacspeak to FBSD, and it
looks like it is possible.
As for Seuse Linux haven't played around with it for several versions.
However, the braille support looks intresting. Well, if you need help
building a speech distribution of Seuse perhaps I can help some.
Esentually, what you do here is build a zImage of the kernel for the boot
disk and make a boot disk like the cdrom.img or what ever they use. Then,
you make a standard bzImage with all the features they use in there kernel,
and then you patch Seuse, and make a new set of kernel rpm's and put them on
the cd instead of the old ones.
I've not actually done this before, but I have a pretty good idea of what is
involved. I had studied up a while back on seeing if I could make Mandrake
speakup ready, and I could have except it was a lot of work I didn't feel
like doing at the time.
_______________________________________________
Speakup mailing list
Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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