* Re: Care For A Little Moonshine?
Care For A Little Moonshine? Janina Sajka
@ ` Marcel Oats
` Georgina Joyce
` Georgina Joyce
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From: Marcel Oats @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Ooo! thanks!
Looking forward to this one.
Marcel
At 03:57 p.m. 12/07/2007, you wrote:
>The Speakup Modified Fedora Distribution version of Fedora 7, "Moonshine," is
>now available. Once again we invite you to use our images and installation
>guidance to install Fedora 7, also known as "Moonshine," using your hardware
>speech synthesizer and the Speakup screen reader. Downloadable images and
>documentation are available at our Internet address:
>
>http://SpeakupModified.Org
>
>You can also access the Speakup Modified Fedora files using ftp and rsync with
>commands such as:
>
>ftp://ftp.SpeakupModified.Org/speakupmodified/fedora/
>rsync -l speakupmodified.org::speakupmodified
>
>Please note that this initial release of the Speakup Modified Fedora 7 has not
>yet been fully tested. We welcome all reports of success or of failures with
>this new, highly revised installation media.
>
>The Speakup Modified Fedora provides:
>
>* installation media adapted expressly for
> those blind computer users who want to use the Speakup Linux screen reader
>to install a Fedora-style Linux on their computers. This means that the blind
>computer user will not require sighted assistance, and that the end
>result will
>be an installation that talks every time it is booted.
>
>* Other assistive technology including brltty, emacspeak,, and orca.
>* It's all there--in the installation images.
>
>* A preliminary revision of our famous Installation HOWTO to guide the
>* novice and the advanced user through the installation process.
>
>* A new mini-howto on using telnet to install the Speakup Modified at:
>
> http://SpeakupModified.Org/telnet_installation.html
>
>But the Speakup Modified is much more than just installation media.
>We now also provide:
>
>* Support for TTSynth, the premier text to speech synthesizer for Linux,
>* both on the console and the graphical desktop.
>
> See http://TTSynth.Com to learn more.
>
>* Regular builds of Firefox 3 providing industry leading accessible
>* web browsing.
>
>* A yum repository so you can update your Speakup Modified Fedora
>* distribution the easy way--overnight in your sleep, for instance. In
>* addition, there's a new Quick Tips file for using yum:
>
> http://SpeakupModified.Org/yumming
>
>* Both 32-bit and 64-bit packages.
>
>* Fast and robust Internet connections on our new hosted servers, so
>* that your downloads can proceed at maximum speed
>
>In the very near future we will also provide:
>
>* A Help Wiki and mini HOWTOs on various Linux topics that you can use both
>to learn from and also to share your own expertise with others.
>
>We know we've said this before--but it's absolutely true yet again!
>rTthe newly
>released Fedora 7 is the most accessible Fedora yet. We're pleased we can once
>again facilitate your installation of Fedora without sighted assistance. And,
>we're pleased to facilitate your access to package updates as well as a first
>class accessible console and graphical desktop Linux experience.
>
>Enjoy!
>
>The Speakup Modified Team
>
>
>--
>
>Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.202.595.7777; sip:janina@a11y.org
>Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://CapitalAccessibility.Com
>
>Marketing the Owasys 22C talking screenless cell phone in the U.S. and Canada
>Learn more at http://ScreenlessPhone.Com
>
>Chair, Open Accessibility janina@a11y.org
>Linux Foundation http://a11y.org
>
>_______________________________________________
>Speakup mailing list
>Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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* RE: Care For A Little Moonshine?
Care For A Little Moonshine? Janina Sajka
` Marcel Oats
@ ` Georgina Joyce
` Janina Sajka
` Georgina Joyce
2 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Georgina Joyce @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'
Hi
I know someone who hasn't got a hardware synth, would they be able to install using your modified images and brltty, or do I advise them to visit brltty's home?
Many thanks
Gena
Amateur Call: M 0 E B P
VOIP / IM: gena1959uk
-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 4:57 AM
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: Care For A Little Moonshine?
The Speakup Modified Fedora Distribution version of Fedora 7, "Moonshine," is
now available. Once again we invite you to use our images and installation
guidance to install Fedora 7, also known as "Moonshine," using your hardware
speech synthesizer and the Speakup screen reader. Downloadable images and
documentation are available at our Internet address:
http://SpeakupModified.Org
You can also access the Speakup Modified Fedora files using ftp and rsync with
commands such as:
ftp://ftp.SpeakupModified.Org/speakupmodified/fedora/
rsync -l speakupmodified.org::speakupmodified
Please note that this initial release of the Speakup Modified Fedora 7 has not
yet been fully tested. We welcome all reports of success or of failures with
this new, highly revised installation media.
The Speakup Modified Fedora provides:
* installation media adapted expressly for
those blind computer users who want to use the Speakup Linux screen reader
to install a Fedora-style Linux on their computers. This means that the blind
computer user will not require sighted assistance, and that the end result will
be an installation that talks every time it is booted.
* Other assistive technology including brltty, emacspeak,, and orca.
* It's all there--in the installation images.
* A preliminary revision of our famous Installation HOWTO to guide the
* novice and the advanced user through the installation process.
* A new mini-howto on using telnet to install the Speakup Modified at:
http://SpeakupModified.Org/telnet_installation.html
But the Speakup Modified is much more than just installation media. We now also provide:
* Support for TTSynth, the premier text to speech synthesizer for Linux,
* both on the console and the graphical desktop.
See http://TTSynth.Com to learn more.
* Regular builds of Firefox 3 providing industry leading accessible
* web browsing.
* A yum repository so you can update your Speakup Modified Fedora
* distribution the easy way--overnight in your sleep, for instance. In
* addition, there's a new Quick Tips file for using yum:
http://SpeakupModified.Org/yumming
* Both 32-bit and 64-bit packages.
* Fast and robust Internet connections on our new hosted servers, so
* that your downloads can proceed at maximum speed
In the very near future we will also provide:
* A Help Wiki and mini HOWTOs on various Linux topics that you can use both
to learn from and also to share your own expertise with others.
We know we've said this before--but it's absolutely true yet again! rTthe newly
released Fedora 7 is the most accessible Fedora yet. We're pleased we can once
again facilitate your installation of Fedora without sighted assistance. And,
we're pleased to facilitate your access to package updates as well as a first
class accessible console and graphical desktop Linux experience.
Enjoy!
The Speakup Modified Team
--
Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.202.595.7777; sip:janina@a11y.org
Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://CapitalAccessibility.Com
Marketing the Owasys 22C talking screenless cell phone in the U.S. and Canada
Learn more at http://ScreenlessPhone.Com
Chair, Open Accessibility janina@a11y.org
Linux Foundation http://a11y.org
_______________________________________________
Speakup mailing list
Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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Care For A Little Moonshine? Janina Sajka
` Marcel Oats
` Georgina Joyce
@ ` Georgina Joyce
` Janina Sajka
2 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Georgina Joyce @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'
Hi
I downloaded the boot.iso and couldn't get it to talk. Having got Mike to see what's going on, the problem was quickly identified. After down arrow and tab, you need to press the spacebar, as the predefined command line is right up to the cursor so when you type speakup_synth the loader is being given textspeakup_synth. Strangely enough, it still boots but without speech.
So just add a space after the tab and your speakup command and it'll come up talking!
Gena
Amateur Call: M 0 E B P
VOIP / IM: gena1959uk
-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 4:57 AM
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: Care For A Little Moonshine?
The Speakup Modified Fedora Distribution version of Fedora 7, "Moonshine," is
now available. Once again we invite you to use our images and installation
guidance to install Fedora 7, also known as "Moonshine," using your hardware
speech synthesizer and the Speakup screen reader. Downloadable images and
documentation are available at our Internet address:
http://SpeakupModified.Org
You can also access the Speakup Modified Fedora files using ftp and rsync with
commands such as:
ftp://ftp.SpeakupModified.Org/speakupmodified/fedora/
rsync -l speakupmodified.org::speakupmodified
Please note that this initial release of the Speakup Modified Fedora 7 has not
yet been fully tested. We welcome all reports of success or of failures with
this new, highly revised installation media.
The Speakup Modified Fedora provides:
* installation media adapted expressly for
those blind computer users who want to use the Speakup Linux screen reader
to install a Fedora-style Linux on their computers. This means that the blind
computer user will not require sighted assistance, and that the end result will
be an installation that talks every time it is booted.
* Other assistive technology including brltty, emacspeak,, and orca.
* It's all there--in the installation images.
* A preliminary revision of our famous Installation HOWTO to guide the
* novice and the advanced user through the installation process.
* A new mini-howto on using telnet to install the Speakup Modified at:
http://SpeakupModified.Org/telnet_installation.html
But the Speakup Modified is much more than just installation media. We now also provide:
* Support for TTSynth, the premier text to speech synthesizer for Linux,
* both on the console and the graphical desktop.
See http://TTSynth.Com to learn more.
* Regular builds of Firefox 3 providing industry leading accessible
* web browsing.
* A yum repository so you can update your Speakup Modified Fedora
* distribution the easy way--overnight in your sleep, for instance. In
* addition, there's a new Quick Tips file for using yum:
http://SpeakupModified.Org/yumming
* Both 32-bit and 64-bit packages.
* Fast and robust Internet connections on our new hosted servers, so
* that your downloads can proceed at maximum speed
In the very near future we will also provide:
* A Help Wiki and mini HOWTOs on various Linux topics that you can use both
to learn from and also to share your own expertise with others.
We know we've said this before--but it's absolutely true yet again! rTthe newly
released Fedora 7 is the most accessible Fedora yet. We're pleased we can once
again facilitate your installation of Fedora without sighted assistance. And,
we're pleased to facilitate your access to package updates as well as a first
class accessible console and graphical desktop Linux experience.
Enjoy!
The Speakup Modified Team
--
Janina Sajka, Phone: +1.202.595.7777; sip:janina@a11y.org
Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://CapitalAccessibility.Com
Marketing the Owasys 22C talking screenless cell phone in the U.S. and Canada
Learn more at http://ScreenlessPhone.Com
Chair, Open Accessibility janina@a11y.org
Linux Foundation http://a11y.org
_______________________________________________
Speakup mailing list
Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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` Georgina Joyce
@ ` Janina Sajka
` Georgina Joyce
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From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Thanks for this catch. I've modified the HOWTO to include this info.
Janina
Georgina Joyce writes:
> Hi
>
> I downloaded the boot.iso and couldn't get it to talk. Having got Mike to see what's going on, the problem was quickly identified. After down arrow and tab, you need to press the spacebar, as the predefined command line is right up to the cursor so when you type speakup_synth the loader is being given textspeakup_synth. Strangely enough, it still boots but without speech.
>
> So just add a space after the tab and your speakup command and it'll come up talking!
>
>
> Gena
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` Janina Sajka
@ ` Georgina Joyce
` Janina Sajka
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From: Georgina Joyce @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'
Hi
No problem. I wondered if you could offer any advice as I can't install here. Because we had a magazine with the Fedora 7 DVD, I thought I'd just need the boot.iso and use the free magazine standard Fedora DVD. Unfortunately, when I place the DVD in the drive the booted talking modified version does not recognise the DVD, stating the 2 don't match. So I copied all the rpm's in the Fedora directory of the DVD onto a partition and pointed the talking installer to that mount point but it looks for a dot iso image so can't see the rpm's. Does this mean I have to download everything from yourselves? Might I get away with just downloading the first CDRom? Or just get a basic install via http or ftp?
What do you suggest?
Thanks!
Gena
Amateur Call: M 0 E B P
VOIP / IM: gena1959uk
-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 11:40 PM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: Care For A Little Moonshine?
Thanks for this catch. I've modified the HOWTO to include this info.
Janina
Georgina Joyce writes:
> Hi
>
> I downloaded the boot.iso and couldn't get it to talk. Having got Mike to see what's going on, the problem was quickly identified. After down arrow and tab, you need to press the spacebar, as the predefined command line is right up to the cursor so when you type speakup_synth the loader is being given textspeakup_synth. Strangely enough, it still boots but without speech.
>
> So just add a space after the tab and your speakup command and it'll come up talking!
>
>
> Gena
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` Georgina Joyce
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From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Hi Again, Gina:
If you want a talking install you have to get the iso image from us. It
is indeed the case that the boot needs to match the installation image.
However, if you have two machines, you can have a talking install over
telnet and the Fedora you end up installing will talk once installed.
So, the easiest thing is probably to set up for a telnet install using
the media you already have. If the machine you're installing on supports
booting from a usb stick, that would be your most accessible route,
because you can provide the necessary data via the syslinux.cfg on the
stick. Else, it's a bit of a guessing game about when you're at the
arrow down, press TAB followed by space" part.
But, if you only have one machine then you do need our iso image. There
was effort at one point to get the basic install onto the first cd rom
iso image, but I don't know whether that was a success or not. I think
it may be the case, but I don't know for sure yet.
Janina
Georgina Joyce writes:
> Hi
>
> No problem. I wondered if you could offer any advice as I can't install here. Because we had a magazine with the Fedora 7 DVD, I thought I'd just need the boot.iso and use the free magazine standard Fedora DVD. Unfortunately, when I place the DVD in the drive the booted talking modified version does not recognise the DVD, stating the 2 don't match. So I copied all the rpm's in the Fedora directory of the DVD onto a partition and pointed the talking installer to that mount point but it looks for a dot iso image so can't see the rpm's. Does this mean I have to download everything from yourselves? Might I get away with just downloading the first CDRom? Or just get a basic install via http or ftp?
>
> What do you suggest?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Gena
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` Janina Sajka
@ ` Georgina Joyce
` Janina Sajka
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From: Georgina Joyce @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'
-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 9:27 PM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: Care For A Little Moonshine?
Hi Again, Gina:
If you want a talking install you have to get the iso image from us. It
is indeed the case that the boot needs to match the installation image.
OK.
However, if you have two machines, you can have a talking install over
telnet and the Fedora you end up installing will talk once installed.
That's what I'm aiming for.
So, the easiest thing is probably to set up for a telnet install using
the media you already have.
Done that using the magazine DVD and my debian box using telnet to control the installer. Telling it to format my chosen partition was a bloody nightmare. I just could not get the asterisk between the brackets.
If the machine you're installing on supports
booting from a usb stick, that would be your most accessible route,
because you can provide the necessary data via the syslinux.cfg on the
stick. Else, it's a bit of a guessing game about when you're at the
arrow down, press TAB followed by space" part.
Oh, I've just realised why you made these comments, if I'd used the removable disk image, I could have saved myself the trouble of writing my ip, netmask and gateway blindly. I was OK on that first time. That on Friday 13 <smiles>
But, if you only have one machine then you do need our iso image. There
was effort at one point to get the basic install onto the first cd rom
iso image, but I don't know whether that was a success or not. I think
it may be the case, but I don't know for sure yet.
OK, anyway, I'll see if I can install the speakup kernel from the boot.iso, if not I can easily grab it from you.
Gena
Janina
Georgina Joyce writes:
> Hi
>
> No problem. I wondered if you could offer any advice as I can't install here. Because we had a magazine with the Fedora 7 DVD, I thought I'd just need the boot.iso and use the free magazine standard Fedora DVD. Unfortunately, when I place the DVD in the drive the booted talking modified version does not recognise the DVD, stating the 2 don't match. So I copied all the rpm's in the Fedora directory of the DVD onto a partition and pointed the talking installer to that mount point but it looks for a dot iso image so can't see the rpm's. Does this mean I have to download everything from yourselves? Might I get away with just downloading the first CDRom? Or just get a basic install via http or ftp?
>
> What do you suggest?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Gena
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