RE: networking linux with microsoft, is it easy?

RE: networking linux with microsoft, is it easy?

[Dawes, Stephen]

Ok, Janina,

You wax a little more poetically then I do, but are you not confirming
what I suggested earlier?
Steve Dawes
Phone: (403) 268-5527
Email: SDawes@calgary.ca



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Re: networking linux with microsoft, is it easy?

[cris]

Hi again folks,
There is a misunderstanding here.  I need to make the connection in my
office.  My office is not wired, the only connection to the internet in my
office is wireless.  I have two computers there, the first is using the
windows operating system.  It has a wireless card and through it I can
access the internet just fine.  The second computer is a linux box using
fedora.  I already tried four different wireless cards on it, and got
nowhere.  I simply could not find any linux drivers for any of them.  I
would like to access the internet with the linux fedora box I have in my
office, instead of using the windows computer.  Now, since the only access I
have to the internet is through windows. I want to try to network the linux
box to the windows system for the sole purpose of accessing the internet.
Is this possible.  I got a network router lying around at home.  I thought
if i take it to the office and link the two computers together, I may be
able to access the internet with my linux box, through the wireless
connection I have working on the machine using windows.  I hope this is
clearer now.
By the way, Janina, What wireless card are you using?
Cheers,
Cris
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dawes, Stephen" <Stephen.Dawes@calgary.ca>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 4:26 PM
Subject: RE: networking linux with microsoft, is it easy?


Ok, Janina,

You wax a little more poetically then I do, but are you not confirming
what I suggested earlier?
Steve Dawes
Phone: (403) 268-5527
Email: SDawes@calgary.ca



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Re: networking linux with microsoft, is it easy?

[Janina Sajka]

Don't do the hit and miss approach on wireless cards. Instead, consult
the on line Wireless docs for what cards work. You can look at
http://www.tldp.org and you can also look in the /usr/src/linux
directory for supported devices.

Let's start with how the card connects to the computer. Are we talking
PCI or PCMCIA, for example?

cris writes:
> From: "cris" <filastin48@hotmail.com>
> 
> Hi again folks,
> There is a misunderstanding here.  I need to make the connection in my
> office.  My office is not wired, the only connection to the internet in my
> office is wireless.  I have two computers there, the first is using the
> windows operating system.  It has a wireless card and through it I can
> access the internet just fine.  The second computer is a linux box using
> fedora.  I already tried four different wireless cards on it, and got
> nowhere.  I simply could not find any linux drivers for any of them.  I
> would like to access the internet with the linux fedora box I have in my
> office, instead of using the windows computer.  Now, since the only access I
> have to the internet is through windows. I want to try to network the linux
> box to the windows system for the sole purpose of accessing the internet.
> Is this possible.  I got a network router lying around at home.  I thought
> if i take it to the office and link the two computers together, I may be
> able to access the internet with my linux box, through the wireless
> connection I have working on the machine using windows.  I hope this is
> clearer now.
> By the way, Janina, What wireless card are you using?
> Cheers,
> Cris
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dawes, Stephen" <Stephen.Dawes@calgary.ca>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 4:26 PM
> Subject: RE: networking linux with microsoft, is it easy?
> 
> 
> Ok, Janina,
> 
> You wax a little more poetically then I do, but are you not confirming
> what I suggested earlier?
> Steve Dawes
> Phone: (403) 268-5527
> Email: SDawes@calgary.ca
> 
> 
> 
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Chair, Accessibility Work Group
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Re: networking linux with microsoft, is it easy?

[Tom and Esther Ward]

Hi, Chris.
I'm not sure what version of Window's you are running, but something like
this will require some knolege of tcip.
Esentually, you will need to asign both systems  a static ip address   if
you do not have a Window's dhcp software.
If you have  dhcp software you'll need to setup so your other Linux box can
capture an ip based on the one your Window's software is asigning to your
Linux box.
Then, you will need to make modifications to your firewalls if you have one
running to allow connections from the Linux system to your Window's system.
One way of testing your connection is setup something like samba and the
Microsoft client and see if file sharing and accessing files  remotely
works.
My guess here is you also may need to find out how to set up your Window's
system as a packaet router so it routes all incoming and outgoing packages
to the outside. I don't really know how to to do this well as I don't
believe I have ever set up a Window's router before.
Seams to me there is something else I am forgetting, but I hardly ever route
anything through a window's system so doing it is pretty fuzzy in my mind.
It's usually the other way around for me, and all Window's stuff Passes
through a Mandrake 9.2 router before making it to the net which is allot
safer in the long run as Linux has good firewalls, things like spam filters,
and other software that Window's can take advantage of which are free.



----- Original Message -----
From: "cris" <filastin48@hotmail.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: networking linux with microsoft, is it easy?


> Hi again folks,
> There is a misunderstanding here.  I need to make the connection in my
> office.  My office is not wired, the only connection to the internet in my
> office is wireless.  I have two computers there, the first is using the
> windows operating system.  It has a wireless card and through it I can
> access the internet just fine.  The second computer is a linux box using
> fedora.  I already tried four different wireless cards on it, and got
> nowhere.  I simply could not find any linux drivers for any of them.  I
> would like to access the internet with the linux fedora box I have in my
> office, instead of using the windows computer.  Now, since the only access
I
> have to the internet is through windows. I want to try to network the
linux
> box to the windows system for the sole purpose of accessing the internet.
> Is this possible.  I got a network router lying around at home.  I thought
> if i take it to the office and link the two computers together, I may be
> able to access the internet with my linux box, through the wireless
> connection I have working on the machine using windows.  I hope this is
> clearer now.
> By the way, Janina, What wireless card are you using?
> Cheers,
> Cris
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dawes, Stephen" <Stephen.Dawes@calgary.ca>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."
<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 4:26 PM
> Subject: RE: networking linux with microsoft, is it easy?
>
>
> Ok, Janina,
>
> You wax a little more poetically then I do, but are you not confirming
> what I suggested earlier?
> Steve Dawes
> Phone: (403) 268-5527
> Email: SDawes@calgary.ca
>
>
>
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of
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notify
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Re: networking linux with microsoft, is it easy?

[Janina Sajka]

Hi, Possibly and even probably. I must confess I'm just cranking the
email out late this afternoon catching up. Inbetween it all, the phone
rings, so I can lose track.

I really do hate to be redundant, though.

Dawes, Stephen writes:
> From: "Dawes, Stephen" <Stephen.Dawes@calgary.ca>
> 
> Ok, Janina,
> 
> You wax a little more poetically then I do, but are you not confirming
> what I suggested earlier?
> Steve Dawes
> Phone: (403) 268-5527
> Email: SDawes@calgary.ca
> 
> 
> 
> NOTICE::
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> 
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Janina Sajka
Email: janina@rednote.net		
Phone: (202) 408-8175

Director, Technology Research and Development
American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
http://www.afb.org

Chair, Accessibility Work Group
Free Standards Group
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RE: networking linux with microsoft, is it easy?

[Dawes, Stephen]

Hey that's ok by me.
I am just a little punchy today, and needed to poke a little fun out
there. 
When I saw your note, I just couldn't resist. 
By the way, I was not put out in the least by what you wrote, and as
mentioned I thought you did a much better job then I did.

After all, it could be said that you were just confirming my idea for a
solution.

Again,
No offence taken, & Hopefully none given!


Steve Dawes
Phone: (403) 268-5527
Email: SDawes@calgary.ca



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Re: networking linux with microsoft, is it easy?

[Janina Sajka]

Non taken, Stephen.


Dawes, Stephen writes:
> From: "Dawes, Stephen" <Stephen.Dawes@calgary.ca>
> 
> Hey that's ok by me.
> I am just a little punchy today, and needed to poke a little fun out
> there. 
> When I saw your note, I just couldn't resist. 
> By the way, I was not put out in the least by what you wrote, and as
> mentioned I thought you did a much better job then I did.
> 
> After all, it could be said that you were just confirming my idea for a
> solution.
> 
> Again,
> No offence taken, & Hopefully none given!
> 
> 
> Steve Dawes
> Phone: (403) 268-5527
> Email: SDawes@calgary.ca
> 
> 
> 
> NOTICE::
> This communication is intended ONLY for the use of the person or entity named above and may contain information that is confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient named above or a person responsible for delivering messages or communications to the intended recipient, YOU ARE HEREBY NOTIFIED that any use, distribution, or copying of this communication or any of the information contained in it is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by telephone and then destroy or delete this communication, or return it to us by mail if requested by us. The City of Calgary thanks you for your attention and cooperation.
> 
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Email: janina@rednote.net		
Phone: (202) 408-8175

Director, Technology Research and Development
American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
http://www.afb.org

Chair, Accessibility Work Group
Free Standards Group
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RE: networking linux with microsoft, is it easy?

[Dawes, Stephen]

Why not just connect your Linux box directly to the wireless router via
wire. Most home use wireless hubs have connections for rj45 Ethernet
connections. 

Steve Dawes
Phone: (403) 268-5527
Email: SDawes@calgary.ca



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networking linux with microsoft, is it easy?

[cris]

Hi folks,
I have been trying to get a wireless connection on my linux box using fedora to work, but all my effort so far has failed.  I think that linux is week in the area of wireless connections, there are not enough linux drivers for most of the PCI wireless cards in the market.  My microsoft windows computer is connected to the internet via a wireless connection and is running well.  Therefore, I am wondering if it is possible to connect my fedora box to my windows computer through a network router, and have my linux connect to the internet through my windows connection.  I will appreciate any suggestions.  I know it is a bit of a challenge, but will give it a try.
Cheers,
Cris

Re: networking linux with microsoft, is it easy?

[Janina Sajka]

There's definitely a good deal of hardware that doesn't work on Linux,
but you can't exactly blame Linux for that. Sometimes hardware vendors
just won't share specs, for example. There are other excuses, too. 

Nevertheless, you shouldn't generalize about Linux support for wireless
just because it isn't working on your hardware. If you were to get a
supported device, you'd find that it works splendidly--better than
Windows, arguably. It certainly works for me.

However, you should skin this cat as is easiest for you to do. In other
words, there's nothing wrong with a mixed environment where some
connections on your lan are wired, while others are wireless. I do that
all the time. So, consider some cat 5 cable from any ethernet cards to
your router. Can you do that?

cris writes:
> From: "cris" <filastin48@hotmail.com>
> 
> Hi folks,
> I have been trying to get a wireless connection on my linux box using fedora to work, but all my effort so far has failed.  I think that linux is week in the area of wireless connections, there are not enough linux drivers for most of the PCI wireless cards in the market.  My microsoft windows computer is connected to the internet via a wireless connection and is running well.  Therefore, I am wondering if it is possible to connect my fedora box to my windows computer through a network router, and have my linux connect to the internet through my windows connection.  I will appreciate any suggestions.  I know it is a bit of a challenge, but will give it a try.
> Cheers,
> Cris
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Janina Sajka
Email: janina@rednote.net		
Phone: (202) 408-8175

Director, Technology Research and Development
American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
http://www.afb.org

Chair, Accessibility Work Group
Free Standards Group
http://accessibility.freestandards.org