keeping PPP alive

keeping PPP alive

[Jacob Schmude]

Hi
	Does anyone know how to keep ppp from timing out? Actually, it's
my provider doing this, but I want to keep the net connection alive. I'm
not looking for a reconnect automatically after disconnect option, I
already know how to do that. What I want is to somehow send or get
something every so often so the ISP doesn't think I'm idle. Is there any
way besides running fetchmail in daemon mode to do this?

Re: keeping PPP alive

[Kirk Wood]

Though I can't remember any apps directly, I know there are several
available for the purpose. have you checked freshmeat.net?

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Kirk Wood
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------------------

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		Alfred North Whitehead

Re: keeping PPP alive

[Charles Hallenbeck]

Jacob -
Look in your "ip-up" script in "/etc/ppp" - I seem to recall there are
some lines commented out that will issue a ping every so often to do that.
Chuck.

On Wed, 5 Jul 2000, Jacob Schmude wrote:

> Hi
> 	Does anyone know how to keep ppp from timing out? Actually, it's
> my provider doing this, but I want to keep the net connection alive. I'm
> not looking for a reconnect automatically after disconnect option, I
> already know how to do that. What I want is to somehow send or get
> something every so often so the ISP doesn't think I'm idle. Is there any
> way besides running fetchmail in daemon mode to do this?
> 
> 
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My web site is http://www.mhonline.net/~chuckh 
You can bring any calculator you like to the midterm, as long as it
doesn't dim the lights when you turn it on.
		-- Hepler, Systems Design 182

Re: keeping PPP alive

[Jacob Schmude]

Hi
	No, sorry. Perhaps there is on slackware, but debian's ip-up
script has a different design. All it does is run things in ip-up.d and
there's nothing there to keep ppp alive. I'm going to try one of these
dynamic dns services, specifically yi.org. That's why I want it to be kept
alive.

On Wed, 5 Jul 2000, Charles Hallenbeck wrote:

> Jacob -
> Look in your "ip-up" script in "/etc/ppp" - I seem to recall there are
> some lines commented out that will issue a ping every so often to do that.
> Chuck.
> 
> On Wed, 5 Jul 2000, Jacob Schmude wrote:
> 
> > Hi
> > 	Does anyone know how to keep ppp from timing out? Actually, it's
> > my provider doing this, but I want to keep the net connection alive. I'm
> > not looking for a reconnect automatically after disconnect option, I
> > already know how to do that. What I want is to somehow send or get
> > something every so often so the ISP doesn't think I'm idle. Is there any
> > way besides running fetchmail in daemon mode to do this?
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > 
> 
> My web site is http://www.mhonline.net/~chuckh 
> You can bring any calculator you like to the midterm, as long as it
> doesn't dim the lights when you turn it on.
> 		-- Hepler, Systems Design 182
> 
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Re: keeping PPP alive

[Charles Hallenbeck]

Jacob -

Here are the relevant lines from my Slackware ip-up script. They look
pretty generic to me...

# If you want to ping the other end to keep the connection open.
# The output from ping will goto >/dev/null, you won't see it.
# Ping -i 60 = send ping every 60 seconds to remote = $5.

(ping -i 60 $5 &) >/dev/null 2>&1

Hope that helps.
Chuck.

My web site is http://www.mhonline.net/~chuckh 
You can bring any calculator you like to the midterm, as long as it
doesn't dim the lights when you turn it on.
		-- Hepler, Systems Design 182

Re: keeping PPP alive

[Victor Tsaran]

Chuck, what is $5 in this case? Is it an internal variable?
Regards,
Vic

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charles Hallenbeck" <chuckh@mhonline.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: keeping PPP alive


> Jacob -
> 
> Here are the relevant lines from my Slackware ip-up script. They look
> pretty generic to me...
> 
> # If you want to ping the other end to keep the connection open.
> # The output from ping will goto >/dev/null, you won't see it.
> # Ping -i 60 = send ping every 60 seconds to remote = $5.
> 
> (ping -i 60 $5 &) >/dev/null 2>&1
> 
> Hope that helps.
> Chuck.
> 
> My web site is http://www.mhonline.net/~chuckh 
> You can bring any calculator you like to the midterm, as long as it
> doesn't dim the lights when you turn it on.
> -- Hepler, Systems Design 182
> 
> 
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Re: keeping PPP alive

[Charles Hallenbeck]

Vic -
It is the remote ip address, according to the script comments. 
Chuck.

On Wed, 5 Jul 2000, Victor Tsaran wrote:

> Chuck, what is $5 in this case? Is it an internal variable?
> Regards,
> Vic
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Charles Hallenbeck" <chuckh@mhonline.net>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 5:38 PM
> Subject: Re: keeping PPP alive
> 
> 
> > Jacob -
> > 
> > Here are the relevant lines from my Slackware ip-up script. They look
> > pretty generic to me...
> > 
> > # If you want to ping the other end to keep the connection open.
> > # The output from ping will goto >/dev/null, you won't see it.
> > # Ping -i 60 = send ping every 60 seconds to remote = $5.
> > 
> > (ping -i 60 $5 &) >/dev/null 2>&1
> > 
> > Hope that helps.
> > Chuck.
> > 
> > My web site is http://www.mhonline.net/~chuckh 
> > You can bring any calculator you like to the midterm, as long as it
> > doesn't dim the lights when you turn it on.
> > -- Hepler, Systems Design 182
> > 
> > 
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> 
> 
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My web site is http://www.mhonline.net/~chuckh 
You can bring any calculator you like to the midterm, as long as it
doesn't dim the lights when you turn it on.
		-- Hepler, Systems Design 182

keeping PPP alive

[Dave Hunt <Dave Hunt]

Jacob,

I suppose you could ping something every five minutes or so.  A
command such as "ping -s32 -i300 >/dev/null &" should do nicely.

--  Dave  --

keeping PPP alive

[Dave Hunt <Dave Hunt]

In the above, insert a hostname or ip address.  You probably would
have guessed that, anyway :-)

--  Dave  --

Re: keeping PPP alive

[brent harding]

Does a host need to be specified to make it work?
What if the host gets suspicious of why I'm pinging so often?
At 08:40 PM 7/5/00 -0400, you wrote:
>Jacob,
>
>I suppose you could ping something every five minutes or so.  A
>command such as "ping -s32 -i300 >/dev/null &" should do nicely.
>
>--  Dave  --
>
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Re: keeping PPP alive

[Victor Tsaran]

You probably have to keep traffic going. I don't think there is any other
trick.
Regards,
Vic

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jacob Schmude" <jacobs@ncinter.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 5:12 PM
Subject: keeping PPP alive


> Hi
> Does anyone know how to keep ppp from timing out? Actually, it's
> my provider doing this, but I want to keep the net connection alive. I'm
> not looking for a reconnect automatically after disconnect option, I
> already know how to do that. What I want is to somehow send or get
> something every so often so the ISP doesn't think I'm idle. Is there any
> way besides running fetchmail in daemon mode to do this?
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: keeping PPP alive

[brent harding]

Probably using a ping of an outside address on a crontab job will maybe do
the trick, but the isp may need a certain amount of activity. Fetchmail in
daemon mode does about the same approach, it keeps the connection up, I was
thinking about using ping to do it, wonder if doing a telnet to a host that
responds connection refused will do it, or telnet to an invalid domain
every few minutes. Once ping is started, it keeps going until you hit
ctrl-c, but when it goes to the background, as cron would do, it's hard to
kill it.
At 08:12 PM 7/5/00 -0400, you wrote:
>Hi
>	Does anyone know how to keep ppp from timing out? Actually, it's
>my provider doing this, but I want to keep the net connection alive. I'm
>not looking for a reconnect automatically after disconnect option, I
>already know how to do that. What I want is to somehow send or get
>something every so often so the ISP doesn't think I'm idle. Is there any
>way besides running fetchmail in daemon mode to do this?
>
>
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>Speakup mailing list
>Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>

Re: keeping PPP alive

[brent harding]

I used to use selfhost.com with some script under linux, that did the trick
the script updated the ip address every couple of minutes, so those that
have dhcp that only keeps an ip for 10 minutes have little problem, as this
client updates frequently. I lost it in a hard drive crash, but a friend of
mine had it. It seems that mail doesn't work on inbound connections with
it, but maybe something with ipchains or something odd, the only program I
know of that could prevent it from working, was invoked in the script, or
selfhost won't take mail for it's subdomains and deliver it to your
machine, dynodns.net allows me to deliver mail and receive it locally on my
linux box, now that I'm using debian. I don't even know how to use
ipchains, so if that was the issue, I didn't start that, but maybe an old
zipspeak initiation script has stuff referring to it in their.
At 08:27 PM 7/5/00 -0400, you wrote:
>Jacob -
>Look in your "ip-up" script in "/etc/ppp" - I seem to recall there are
>some lines commented out that will issue a ping every so often to do that.
>Chuck.
>
>On Wed, 5 Jul 2000, Jacob Schmude wrote:
>
>> Hi
>> 	Does anyone know how to keep ppp from timing out? Actually, it's
>> my provider doing this, but I want to keep the net connection alive. I'm
>> not looking for a reconnect automatically after disconnect option, I
>> already know how to do that. What I want is to somehow send or get
>> something every so often so the ISP doesn't think I'm idle. Is there any
>> way besides running fetchmail in daemon mode to do this?
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>> 
>
>My web site is http://www.mhonline.net/~chuckh 
>You can bring any calculator you like to the midterm, as long as it
>doesn't dim the lights when you turn it on.
>		-- Hepler, Systems Design 182
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>Speakup mailing list
>Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
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>

keeping ppp alive

[Charles Hallenbeck]

Oh yes - 
And this should appear in the "ip-down" script:

# Stop ping if you started it in /etc/ppp/ip-up.

killall ping 2>/dev/null

Chuck.

My web site is http://www.mhonline.net/~chuckh 
You can bring any calculator you like to the midterm, as long as it
doesn't dim the lights when you turn it on.
		-- Hepler, Systems Design 182