newer load_spk-0.8.tar.gz

newer load_spk-0.8.tar.gz

[Kirk Reiser]

Hi Folks:  The load speak tar ball which was in the ftp area had the
default installation directory set to /usr/local/bin.  I have uploaded
a newer tar ball which has the default directory now set to /usr/bin.

Seems to me there is another slight bug fix in there as well, but I
can't remember what it is.

  Kirk

-- 

Kirk Reiser				The Computer Braille Facility
e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca		University of Western Ontario
phone: (519) 661-3061

Re: newer load_spk-0.8.tar.gz

[ed]

> Seems to me there is another slight bug fix in there as well, but I
> can't remember what it is.

That would be dumpspk's misquoting of the backslash character..

'cvs log loadspeak' is a nice feature, you know.  *grin*

-- 
Andy "Eddie" Berdan
http://magus.dhs.org/ed/

Re: newer load_spk-0.8.tar.gz

[ed]

> Seems to me there is another slight bug fix in there as well, but I
> can't remember what it is.

That would be dumpspk's misquoting of the backslash character..

'cvs log loadspeak' is a nice feature, you know.  *grin*

-- 
Andy "Eddie" Berdan
http://magus.dhs.org/ed/

Re: newer load_spk-0.8.tar.gz

[Jacob Schmude]

	Kirk, why would it not be set to /usr/local? Usually that's where
these sort of programs go. Local software goes in /usr/local, normally,
and I consider that local software. I know you can change it, I'm just
curious as to why it was set back to /usr/bin.
	Also, I've got a feature request for loadspk regarding the
doubletalks. Can you make all 8 voices avaiilable instead of just 5 of
them? How about a way to send a direct command to the synth for features
loadspk can't support (if anything loadspk can't support exists)?

On Tue, 30 May 2000 ed@magus.dhs.org wrote:

> > Seems to me there is another slight bug fix in there as well, but I
> > can't remember what it is.
> 
> That would be dumpspk's misquoting of the backslash character..
> 
> 'cvs log loadspeak' is a nice feature, you know.  *grin*
> 
> -- 
> Andy "Eddie" Berdan
> http://magus.dhs.org/ed/
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

Jacob Schmude
mailto:jacobs@ncinter.net
ICQ: 53401220

Re: newer load_spk-0.8.tar.gz

[Kirk Reiser]

Hi Jacob:  We changed it to /usr/bin because we tend to use debian
which doesn't use the /usr/local tree very much.  /usr/local once had
a purpose which was to place things which you were installing on a
machine which hosted hundreds or thousands of users, in a place to
indicate this was local to this machine only.  We don't need that tree
really anymore because most linux boxes are totally local themselves.
Why have extra directories you don't need to look through when
starting a command.

I will look into including the entire voice range for doubletalk if we
don't already.  I thought we did.

Loadspeak has had direct synth support since about v-0.3.  The command
is direct=.  Imagine that!

  Kirk

-- 

Kirk Reiser				The Computer Braille Facility
e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca		University of Western Ontario
phone: (519) 661-3061

Re: newer load_spk-0.8.tar.gz

[Jacob Schmude]

	Thanks for the info. I tend to still use /usr/local to indicate
which software I have installed as opposed to which software was installed
by packages. It's a personal preference.
	Thanks for the direct command, I didn't know that. Now I can play
with my doubletalk more. Any way to send an exception dictionary to the
synth for example, to speak spanish? I don't speak spanish, but it's fun
to play with it.

On 30 May 2000, Kirk Reiser wrote:

> Hi Jacob:  We changed it to /usr/bin because we tend to use debian
> which doesn't use the /usr/local tree very much.  /usr/local once had
> a purpose which was to place things which you were installing on a
> machine which hosted hundreds or thousands of users, in a place to
> indicate this was local to this machine only.  We don't need that tree
> really anymore because most linux boxes are totally local themselves.
> Why have extra directories you don't need to look through when
> starting a command.
> 
> I will look into including the entire voice range for doubletalk if we
> don't already.  I thought we did.
> 
> Loadspeak has had direct synth support since about v-0.3.  The command
> is direct=.  Imagine that!
> 
>   Kirk
> 
> -- 
> 
> Kirk Reiser				The Computer Braille Facility
> e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca		University of Western Ontario
> phone: (519) 661-3061
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

Jacob Schmude
mailto:jacobs@ncinter.net
ICQ: 53401220

Re: newer load_spk-0.8.tar.gz

[Jacob Schmude]

	Yes, but as speakup takes over /dev/dtlk for the doubletalk pc, I
can't simply use cat to do that. I was wondering if speakup's loadspk had
such a feature. All the doubletalk's manual covers is the dos batch file,
but it just sends the file in raw form to the doubletalk. That's what I'd
like to do with speakup.

On Tue, 30 May 2000, Victor Tsaran wrote:

> Hey, Jacob!
> Did you look through DoubleTalk's manual? I think they discuss some of these
> issues there. I wish I could give more details.
> Vic
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jacob Schmude" <jacobs@ncinter.net>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 4:14 PM
> Subject: Re: newer load_spk-0.8.tar.gz
> 
> 
> > Thanks for the info. I tend to still use /usr/local to indicate
> > which software I have installed as opposed to which software was installed
> > by packages. It's a personal preference.
> > Thanks for the direct command, I didn't know that. Now I can play
> > with my doubletalk more. Any way to send an exception dictionary to the
> > synth for example, to speak spanish? I don't speak spanish, but it's fun
> > to play with it.
> >
> > On 30 May 2000, Kirk Reiser wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Jacob:  We changed it to /usr/bin because we tend to use debian
> > > which doesn't use the /usr/local tree very much.  /usr/local once had
> > > a purpose which was to place things which you were installing on a
> > > machine which hosted hundreds or thousands of users, in a place to
> > > indicate this was local to this machine only.  We don't need that tree
> > > really anymore because most linux boxes are totally local themselves.
> > > Why have extra directories you don't need to look through when
> > > starting a command.
> > >
> > > I will look into including the entire voice range for doubletalk if we
> > > don't already.  I thought we did.
> > >
> > > Loadspeak has had direct synth support since about v-0.3.  The command
> > > is direct=.  Imagine that!
> > >
> > >   Kirk
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility
> > > e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario
> > > phone: (519) 661-3061
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> >
> > Jacob Schmude
> > mailto:jacobs@ncinter.net
> > ICQ: 53401220
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

Jacob Schmude
mailto:jacobs@ncinter.net
ICQ: 53401220

Re: newer load_spk-0.8.tar.gz

[Kirk Reiser]

Hi Again Jacob:  The new load speak uses configure so you can use the
--prefix= command to have installed wherever you'd like.

  Kirk

-- 

Kirk Reiser				The Computer Braille Facility
e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca		University of Western Ontario
phone: (519) 661-3061

Re: newer load_spk-0.8.tar.gz

[Victor Tsaran]

Hi, Jacob!
I think, /usr/bin is better because some of the distribution, such as Redhat
and mandrake dropped /usr/loca/ as an option. Well, there are apps that
insist on installing themselves in /usr/local/, but RedHat by itself avoids
using that directory. I personally hardly see where the division occurs.
Regards,
Vic

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jacob Schmude" <jacobs@ncinter.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: newer load_spk-0.8.tar.gz


> Kirk, why would it not be set to /usr/local? Usually that's where
> these sort of programs go. Local software goes in /usr/local, normally,
> and I consider that local software. I know you can change it, I'm just
> curious as to why it was set back to /usr/bin.
> Also, I've got a feature request for loadspk regarding the
> doubletalks. Can you make all 8 voices avaiilable instead of just 5 of
> them? How about a way to send a direct command to the synth for features
> loadspk can't support (if anything loadspk can't support exists)?
>
> On Tue, 30 May 2000 ed@magus.dhs.org wrote:
>
> > > Seems to me there is another slight bug fix in there as well, but I
> > > can't remember what it is.
> >
> > That would be dumpspk's misquoting of the backslash character..
> >
> > 'cvs log loadspeak' is a nice feature, you know.  *grin*
> >
> > --
> > Andy "Eddie" Berdan
> > http://magus.dhs.org/ed/
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
> Jacob Schmude
> mailto:jacobs@ncinter.net
> ICQ: 53401220
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: newer load_spk-0.8.tar.gz

[Victor Tsaran]

Hey, Jacob!
Did you look through DoubleTalk's manual? I think they discuss some of these
issues there. I wish I could give more details.
Vic

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jacob Schmude" <jacobs@ncinter.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2000 4:14 PM
Subject: Re: newer load_spk-0.8.tar.gz


> Thanks for the info. I tend to still use /usr/local to indicate
> which software I have installed as opposed to which software was installed
> by packages. It's a personal preference.
> Thanks for the direct command, I didn't know that. Now I can play
> with my doubletalk more. Any way to send an exception dictionary to the
> synth for example, to speak spanish? I don't speak spanish, but it's fun
> to play with it.
>
> On 30 May 2000, Kirk Reiser wrote:
>
> > Hi Jacob:  We changed it to /usr/bin because we tend to use debian
> > which doesn't use the /usr/local tree very much.  /usr/local once had
> > a purpose which was to place things which you were installing on a
> > machine which hosted hundreds or thousands of users, in a place to
> > indicate this was local to this machine only.  We don't need that tree
> > really anymore because most linux boxes are totally local themselves.
> > Why have extra directories you don't need to look through when
> > starting a command.
> >
> > I will look into including the entire voice range for doubletalk if we
> > don't already.  I thought we did.
> >
> > Loadspeak has had direct synth support since about v-0.3.  The command
> > is direct=.  Imagine that!
> >
> >   Kirk
> >
> > --
> >
> > Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility
> > e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario
> > phone: (519) 661-3061
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
> Jacob Schmude
> mailto:jacobs@ncinter.net
> ICQ: 53401220
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: newer load_spk-0.8.tar.gz

[Geoff Shang]

Hi:

I actually use /usr/local to install programs by hand, as opposed to those
installed by debian.  Then again, I rarely use 'make install' unless I know
where it's going to dump stuff.

someone did say however that some distribution doesn't include
/usr/local/bin so probably best not to use that if the system doesn't know
about it.  At least in debian, the tree is created and the default paths
support it.

Geoff.