* New to the list
@ Dave O
` Janina Sajka
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From: Dave O @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Greetings everyone,
I'm new to the list, and have a couple questions.
I have a spare computer that's not at all busy, so thought I'd install Linux
along with Speakup. I acquired a Doubletalk internal synthesizer for this
purpose.
I was going to download the modified Fedora distribution, but each file
would take more than a week to download. So, I grabbed the regular
distribution of Fedora FC3.
Now, here are my questions. First, what is the difference, specifically as
it deals with the speech aspect. I emailed the contact on the Modified
Fedora page, but have not heard back from him regarding mirrors for that
distribution.
Second, do I have everything I need to start? Can speech be invoked during
the installation process?
Next, I also pulled the Fedora 4 distribution, FC4 disks 1-4. Should I use
those instead?
Thanks for all your help in advanced. Sorry if I'm asking truly basic
questions here.
Dave
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* Re: New to the list
New to the list Dave O
@ ` Janina Sajka
0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Dave O, Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
You should use the FC4 disks, if you can. However, neither the stock
FC4, nor the stock FC3 will provide you with a speaking installation.
The exception is setting up installation via telnet:
https://www.redhat.com/archives/blinux-list/2005-August/msg00038.html
You should also follow the instructions in the Speakup Modified
INstallation HOWTO:
http://speakupModified.org/HOWTO_INSTALL.html
Of course, you can always just spend $10 for a set of Speakup Modified
FC3 disks from Cheap Bytes.
Dave O writes:
> Greetings everyone,
>
> I'm new to the list, and have a couple questions.
>
> I have a spare computer that's not at all busy, so thought I'd install
> Linux along with Speakup. I acquired a Doubletalk internal synthesizer for
> this purpose.
>
> I was going to download the modified Fedora distribution, but each file
> would take more than a week to download. So, I grabbed the regular
> distribution of Fedora FC3.
>
> Now, here are my questions. First, what is the difference, specifically as
> it deals with the speech aspect. I emailed the contact on the Modified
> Fedora page, but have not heard back from him regarding mirrors for that
> distribution.
>
> Second, do I have everything I need to start? Can speech be invoked during
> the installation process?
>
> Next, I also pulled the Fedora 4 distribution, FC4 disks 1-4. Should I use
> those instead?
>
> Thanks for all your help in advanced. Sorry if I'm asking truly basic
> questions here.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
--
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Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com
Marketing the Owasys 22C talking screenless cell phone in the U.S. and Canada--Go to http://www.ScreenlessPhone.Com to learn more.
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janina@freestandards.org http://a11y.org
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* New to the list
@ Brice Mijares
` Janina Sajka
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Brice Mijares @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Hello All, I'm new to the list and am going to need some help.
I have an older computer that has been sitting around here for a couple of
years and decided to put it to some use. It's a P-200, with 48 megs of ram,
and currently it has win 98, and a PC double talk synthesizer.
I want to teach myself Linux, but I should say, I've got a little experience
with it, or better yet, UNIX. Now, what's the best way to go about this,
meaning do I want to dump win 98 since I don't need it, and do a clean
install of Linux. If so, Which package should I go with
Also, will there be any speech as I do the installation? I'm sure there is
more questions I should ask, but until I get going, I don't know what
further to ask.
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* Re: New to the list
Brice Mijares
@ ` Janina Sajka
` Erik Heil
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Welcome, Brice.
You've come to the right place to ask for help. I'll chime in and give you my two cents, and I know others will do the same. Your job, should you choose to accept it, will be to decide among the potentially conflicting suggestions. What can I say--that's the world of Linux where there are more choices than one can shake a stick at.
But, let's get down to business.
If you don't want the Win 98 -- plan to just dump it. The Linux installation process will take care of that without further ado.
You're in great shape with that internal Doubletalk. You've hit the jackpot, in fact. Leave that where it is.
You should read some to get oriented on what's involved in a Linux installation. I recommend the HOWTO on installing the Speakup Modified Fedora Core of Linux available at:
http://www.linux-speakup.org/ftp/disks/fedora/HOWTO_INSTALL.html
However, helpful as this doc may be, you can't install Fedora because you only have 48 megs of RAM (unless you add some, of course). You also can't install Suse.
So, I expect you'll be choosing between Debian and Slackware, possibly Gentoo, though I'm not sure about the minimal requirements for Gentoo. Someone here will tell you.
I do want to say that what you have will work quite well--though you won't be doing graphical Linux probably with this system. I happen to have a 200 Mhz Pentium with only 32 Mb RAM that's running Debian just fine.
There are a set of install disks on the Speakup site that you can use to start the installation. You should get them and start installing. It doesn't matter of you don't get it right right away, because you have nothing to lose on this machine.
If you do as I did with Debian and the disks on the Sp[eakup site there are two things to keep in mind:
That particular release is fairly old. You will want to upgrade it once it's installed. Fortunately, it's easier to upgrade once your Linux is up and running than it is to get to that point in the first place.
There's a very good HOWTO at the Debian site about installation that you should also read up on.
Again, welcome to Speakup.
Brice Mijares writes:
> Hello All, I'm new to the list and am going to need some help.
> I have an older computer that has been sitting around here for a couple of
> years and decided to put it to some use. It's a P-200, with 48 megs of ram,
> and currently it has win 98, and a PC double talk synthesizer.
> I want to teach myself Linux, but I should say, I've got a little experience
> with it, or better yet, UNIX. Now, what's the best way to go about this,
> meaning do I want to dump win 98 since I don't need it, and do a clean
> install of Linux. If so, Which package should I go with
> Also, will there be any speech as I do the installation? I'm sure there is
> more questions I should ask, but until I get going, I don't know what
> further to ask.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
--
Janina Sajka, Director
Technology Research and Development
Governmental Relations Group
American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175
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` Janina Sajka
@ ` Erik Heil
` Janina Sajka
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Erik Heil @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Hello there. Are their any RPM packages for the 2.6X kernel for Fedora? I
tried compiling a custom kernel but what resulted is that the RPM database
still thought that I was running 2.4.22. Unfortunately, I couldn't edit the
RPM database directlry, BC it is in binary form, and not human-readable.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: New to the list
> Welcome, Brice.
>
> You've come to the right place to ask for help. I'll chime in and give you
my two cents, and I know others will do the same. Your job, should you
choose to accept it, will be to decide among the potentially conflicting
suggestions. What can I say--that's the world of Linux where there are more
choices than one can shake a stick at.
>
> But, let's get down to business.
>
> If you don't want the Win 98 -- plan to just dump it. The Linux
installation process will take care of that without further ado.
>
> You're in great shape with that internal Doubletalk. You've hit the
jackpot, in fact. Leave that where it is.
>
> You should read some to get oriented on what's involved in a Linux
installation. I recommend the HOWTO on installing the Speakup Modified
Fedora Core of Linux available at:
>
> http://www.linux-speakup.org/ftp/disks/fedora/HOWTO_INSTALL.html
>
> However, helpful as this doc may be, you can't install Fedora because you
only have 48 megs of RAM (unless you add some, of course). You also can't
install Suse.
>
> So, I expect you'll be choosing between Debian and Slackware, possibly
Gentoo, though I'm not sure about the minimal requirements for Gentoo.
Someone here will tell you.
>
> I do want to say that what you have will work quite well--though you won't
be doing graphical Linux probably with this system. I happen to have a 200
Mhz Pentium with only 32 Mb RAM that's running Debian just fine.
>
> There are a set of install disks on the Speakup site that you can use to
start the installation. You should get them and start installing. It doesn't
matter of you don't get it right right away, because you have nothing to
lose on this machine.
>
> If you do as I did with Debian and the disks on the Sp[eakup site there
are two things to keep in mind:
>
> That particular release is fairly old. You will want to upgrade it once
it's installed. Fortunately, it's easier to upgrade once your Linux is up
and running than it is to get to that point in the first place.
>
> There's a very good HOWTO at the Debian site about installation that you
should also read up on.
>
> Again, welcome to Speakup.
>
> Brice Mijares writes:
> > Hello All, I'm new to the list and am going to need some help.
> > I have an older computer that has been sitting around here for a couple
of
> > years and decided to put it to some use. It's a P-200, with 48 megs of
ram,
> > and currently it has win 98, and a PC double talk synthesizer.
> > I want to teach myself Linux, but I should say, I've got a little
experience
> > with it, or better yet, UNIX. Now, what's the best way to go about
this,
> > meaning do I want to dump win 98 since I don't need it, and do a clean
> > install of Linux. If so, Which package should I go with
> > Also, will there be any speech as I do the installation? I'm sure there
is
> > more questions I should ask, but until I get going, I don't know what
> > further to ask.
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
> --
>
> Janina Sajka, Director
> Technology Research and Development
> Governmental Relations Group
> American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
>
> Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread* Re: New to the list
` Erik Heil
@ ` Janina Sajka
0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
There are for Fedora Core, but not yet for the Speakup Modified Fedora Core.
Erik Heil writes:
> Hello there. Are their any RPM packages for the 2.6X kernel for Fedora? I
> tried compiling a custom kernel but what resulted is that the RPM database
> still thought that I was running 2.4.22. Unfortunately, I couldn't edit the
> RPM database directlry, BC it is in binary form, and not human-readable.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 3:25 PM
> Subject: Re: New to the list
>
>
> > Welcome, Brice.
> >
> > You've come to the right place to ask for help. I'll chime in and give you
> my two cents, and I know others will do the same. Your job, should you
> choose to accept it, will be to decide among the potentially conflicting
> suggestions. What can I say--that's the world of Linux where there are more
> choices than one can shake a stick at.
> >
> > But, let's get down to business.
> >
> > If you don't want the Win 98 -- plan to just dump it. The Linux
> installation process will take care of that without further ado.
> >
> > You're in great shape with that internal Doubletalk. You've hit the
> jackpot, in fact. Leave that where it is.
> >
> > You should read some to get oriented on what's involved in a Linux
> installation. I recommend the HOWTO on installing the Speakup Modified
> Fedora Core of Linux available at:
> >
> > http://www.linux-speakup.org/ftp/disks/fedora/HOWTO_INSTALL.html
> >
> > However, helpful as this doc may be, you can't install Fedora because you
> only have 48 megs of RAM (unless you add some, of course). You also can't
> install Suse.
> >
> > So, I expect you'll be choosing between Debian and Slackware, possibly
> Gentoo, though I'm not sure about the minimal requirements for Gentoo.
> Someone here will tell you.
> >
> > I do want to say that what you have will work quite well--though you won't
> be doing graphical Linux probably with this system. I happen to have a 200
> Mhz Pentium with only 32 Mb RAM that's running Debian just fine.
> >
> > There are a set of install disks on the Speakup site that you can use to
> start the installation. You should get them and start installing. It doesn't
> matter of you don't get it right right away, because you have nothing to
> lose on this machine.
> >
> > If you do as I did with Debian and the disks on the Sp[eakup site there
> are two things to keep in mind:
> >
> > That particular release is fairly old. You will want to upgrade it once
> it's installed. Fortunately, it's easier to upgrade once your Linux is up
> and running than it is to get to that point in the first place.
> >
> > There's a very good HOWTO at the Debian site about installation that you
> should also read up on.
> >
> > Again, welcome to Speakup.
> >
> > Brice Mijares writes:
> > > Hello All, I'm new to the list and am going to need some help.
> > > I have an older computer that has been sitting around here for a couple
> of
> > > years and decided to put it to some use. It's a P-200, with 48 megs of
> ram,
> > > and currently it has win 98, and a PC double talk synthesizer.
> > > I want to teach myself Linux, but I should say, I've got a little
> experience
> > > with it, or better yet, UNIX. Now, what's the best way to go about
> this,
> > > meaning do I want to dump win 98 since I don't need it, and do a clean
> > > install of Linux. If so, Which package should I go with
> > > Also, will there be any speech as I do the installation? I'm sure there
> is
> > > more questions I should ask, but until I get going, I don't know what
> > > further to ask.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> > --
> >
> > Janina Sajka, Director
> > Technology Research and Development
> > Governmental Relations Group
> > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
> >
> > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
--
Janina Sajka, Director
Technology Research and Development
Governmental Relations Group
American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175
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* new to the list
@ Juan Hernandez
` Steve Holmes
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Juan Hernandez @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
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Howdy, I am new to the list, I've been using linux and freebsd for many a years. I just started using the speakup screen reader. I am quite empressed with the changes that have been made to it. I remember trying speakup when it was like version .08 or something like that. I had a question
I can't get slackware installed on my pc, for some reason it doesn't find my cdrom. I figured out that I needed to use another disk image that has the drivers for my cdrom, how can I do this and also keep the speakup while installing? Thanks
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* Re: new to the list
new " Juan Hernandez
@ ` Steve Holmes
` Juan Hernandez
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Steve Holmes @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
I don't know where you ultimately found the CDROM drivers you needed
but there is a generic speakup-enabled boot disk for normal IDE and
for SCSI based systems. Look for speakup.i for IDE and speakup.s for
SCSI. I'm referring to the bootdisk images here. If you ended up
having to use one of the specialty discs for other drivers, let me
know which one you used and I could perhaps prepare a speakup version
for you. They just created two speakup boot images. Otherwise, you
would double the size of Slackware's boot system.
On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 03:28:00PM -0800, Juan Hernandez wrote:
> Howdy, I am new to the list, I've been using linux and freebsd for many a years. I just started using the speakup screen reader. I am quite empressed with the changes that have been made to it. I remember trying speakup when it was like version .08 or something like that. I had a question
>
> I can't get slackware installed on my pc, for some reason it doesn't find my cdrom. I figured out that I needed to use another disk image that has the drivers for my cdrom, how can I do this and also keep the speakup while installing? Thanks
--
Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
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` Steve Holmes
@ ` Juan Hernandez
0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Juan Hernandez @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
there is a goldstar.i I think thats what it is called, thats what I need.
Thanks
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Holmes" <steve@holmesgrown.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 6:31 AM
Subject: Re: new to the list
> I don't know where you ultimately found the CDROM drivers you needed
> but there is a generic speakup-enabled boot disk for normal IDE and
> for SCSI based systems. Look for speakup.i for IDE and speakup.s for
> SCSI. I'm referring to the bootdisk images here. If you ended up
> having to use one of the specialty discs for other drivers, let me
> know which one you used and I could perhaps prepare a speakup version
> for you. They just created two speakup boot images. Otherwise, you
> would double the size of Slackware's boot system.
>
> On Wed, Mar 12, 2003 at 03:28:00PM -0800, Juan Hernandez wrote:
> > Howdy, I am new to the list, I've been using linux and freebsd for many
a years. I just started using the speakup screen reader. I am quite
empressed with the changes that have been made to it. I remember trying
speakup when it was like version .08 or something like that. I had a
question
> >
> > I can't get slackware installed on my pc, for some reason it doesn't
find my cdrom. I figured out that I needed to use another disk image that
has the drivers for my cdrom, how can I do this and also keep the speakup
while installing? Thanks
> --
> Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
> See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>
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