Speakup in Combination with Emacspeak and others

Speakup in Combination with Emacspeak and others

[Zachary Kline]

Hi,
    I was wondering if anybody could give me some advice about using Speakup in combination with Emacspeak, and possibly Orca for Gnome.  I use software speech out of necescity, which implies speech-dispatcher and all that.  I'm not sure if I need to echo to proc and disable the software or not.  
Any advice on the best approach to do this?
Thanks,
Zack.

Re: Speakup in Combination with Emacspeak and others

[Albert E. Sten-Clanton]

You might just kill speakup and then run emacspeak.  When you're done with emacspeak, you can then bring it back to life.  I did it this morning using the left-most key of the three-key group on the far right of the function key row:  that is, to the right of the three groups of four function keys.  The same key kills it and brings it back.  Hope this helps.

Al
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Zachary Kline" <Z_kline@hotmail.com>
To: <Speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 11:27 AM
Subject: Speakup in Combination with Emacspeak and others


> Hi,
>     I was wondering if anybody could give me some advice about using Speakup in combination with Emacspeak, and possibly Orca for Gnome.  I use software speech out of necescity, which implies speech-dispatcher and all that.  I'm not sure if I need to echo to proc and disable the software or not.  
> Any advice on the best approach to do this?
> Thanks,
> Zack.
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> 
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Re: Speakup in Combination with Emacspeak and others

[Steve Holmes]

Another thing you can do is just silence speakup with speakup-enter so
the review functions are still available.  This way you can use
emacspeak or speechd-el in conjunction with speakup.  I really liked
doing that with speechd-el Emacspeak is pretty well self voiced on its
own but sometimes I like to look at the status line or at a specific
line in the buffer and I find it quicker to use speakup functions to do
this as I'm more familiar with speakup over the other two.  Since Gnome
is a totally separate environment, I wouldn't think you could use
speakup at all during that time due to the use of a windowing manager.
I could be wrong but......

On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 12:18:44PM -0500, Albert E. Sten-Clanton wrote:
> You might just kill speakup and then run emacspeak.  When you're done with emacspeak, you can then bring it back to life.  I did it this morning using the left-most key of the three-key group on the far right of the function key row:  that is, to the right of the three groups of four function keys.  The same key kills it and brings it back.  Hope this helps.
> 
> Al
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Zachary Kline" <Z_kline@hotmail.com>
> To: <Speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 11:27 AM
> Subject: Speakup in Combination with Emacspeak and others
> 
> 
> > Hi,
> >     I was wondering if anybody could give me some advice about using Speakup in combination with Emacspeak, and possibly Orca for Gnome.  I use software speech out of necescity, which implies speech-dispatcher and all that.  I'm not sure if I need to echo to proc and disable the software or not.  
> > Any advice on the best approach to do this?
> > Thanks,
> > Zack.
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > 
> > 
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> > 
> 
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Re: Speakup in Combination with Emacspeak and others

[Zachary Kline]

Hiya,
Well, I don't really understand the instructions on how to 'kill' speakup 
anyway.  The thing that worries me is having Speakup's review keys interfeer 
with Orca's.  I've tried to use it, and while speakup itself doesn't talk, 
it still reviews, or tries to.  Annoying in some ways.
This happens even with insert+enter pressed.
Any advice on this?
Thsnks,
Zack.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Steve Holmes" <steve@holmesgrown.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 11:43 AM
Subject: Re: Speakup in Combination with Emacspeak and others


> Another thing you can do is just silence speakup with speakup-enter so
> the review functions are still available.  This way you can use
> emacspeak or speechd-el in conjunction with speakup.  I really liked
> doing that with speechd-el Emacspeak is pretty well self voiced on its
> own but sometimes I like to look at the status line or at a specific
> line in the buffer and I find it quicker to use speakup functions to do
> this as I'm more familiar with speakup over the other two.  Since Gnome
> is a totally separate environment, I wouldn't think you could use
> speakup at all during that time due to the use of a windowing manager.
> I could be wrong but......
>
> On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 12:18:44PM -0500, Albert E. Sten-Clanton wrote:
>> You might just kill speakup and then run emacspeak.  When you're done 
>> with emacspeak, you can then bring it back to life.  I did it this 
>> morning using the left-most key of the three-key group on the far right 
>> of the function key row:  that is, to the right of the three groups of 
>> four function keys.  The same key kills it and brings it back.  Hope this 
>> helps.
>>
>> Al
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Zachary Kline" <Z_kline@hotmail.com>
>> To: <Speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 11:27 AM
>> Subject: Speakup in Combination with Emacspeak and others
>>
>>
>> > Hi,
>> >     I was wondering if anybody could give me some advice about using 
>> > Speakup in combination with Emacspeak, and possibly Orca for Gnome.  I 
>> > use software speech out of necescity, which implies speech-dispatcher 
>> > and all that.  I'm not sure if I need to echo to proc and disable the 
>> > software or not.
>> > Any advice on the best approach to do this?
>> > Thanks,
>> > Zack.
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Speakup mailing list
>> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>> >
>> >
>> > -- 
>> > No virus found in this incoming message.
>> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
>> > Version: 7.1.413 / Virus Database: 268.18.5/706 - Release Date: 
>> > 2/28/2007
>> >
>> >
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
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Re: Speakup in Combination with Emacspeak and others

[Sean McMahon]

While speakup is running, press the printscreen key.  speakup will say "you 
killed speakup" use your other speech program, orca, emacspeak, ...  Then when 
you're done, exit that program and press print screen again to bring up speakup. 
Speakup will say "I'm alive"  hth

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Zachary Kline" <Z_kline@hotmail.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 3:12 PM
Subject: Re: Speakup in Combination with Emacspeak and others


> Hiya,
> Well, I don't really understand the instructions on how to 'kill' speakup
> anyway.  The thing that worries me is having Speakup's review keys interfeer
> with Orca's.  I've tried to use it, and while speakup itself doesn't talk,
> it still reviews, or tries to.  Annoying in some ways.
> This happens even with insert+enter pressed.
> Any advice on this?
> Thsnks,
> Zack.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Steve Holmes" <steve@holmesgrown.com>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 11:43 AM
> Subject: Re: Speakup in Combination with Emacspeak and others
>
>
>> Another thing you can do is just silence speakup with speakup-enter so
>> the review functions are still available.  This way you can use
>> emacspeak or speechd-el in conjunction with speakup.  I really liked
>> doing that with speechd-el Emacspeak is pretty well self voiced on its
>> own but sometimes I like to look at the status line or at a specific
>> line in the buffer and I find it quicker to use speakup functions to do
>> this as I'm more familiar with speakup over the other two.  Since Gnome
>> is a totally separate environment, I wouldn't think you could use
>> speakup at all during that time due to the use of a windowing manager.
>> I could be wrong but......
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 12:18:44PM -0500, Albert E. Sten-Clanton wrote:
>>> You might just kill speakup and then run emacspeak.  When you're done
>>> with emacspeak, you can then bring it back to life.  I did it this
>>> morning using the left-most key of the three-key group on the far right
>>> of the function key row:  that is, to the right of the three groups of
>>> four function keys.  The same key kills it and brings it back.  Hope this
>>> helps.
>>>
>>> Al
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Zachary Kline" <Z_kline@hotmail.com>
>>> To: <Speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 11:27 AM
>>> Subject: Speakup in Combination with Emacspeak and others
>>>
>>>
>>> > Hi,
>>> >     I was wondering if anybody could give me some advice about using
>>> > Speakup in combination with Emacspeak, and possibly Orca for Gnome.  I
>>> > use software speech out of necescity, which implies speech-dispatcher
>>> > and all that.  I'm not sure if I need to echo to proc and disable the
>>> > software or not.
>>> > Any advice on the best approach to do this?
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > Zack.
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > Speakup mailing list
>>> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > -- 
>>> > No virus found in this incoming message.
>>> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
>>> > Version: 7.1.413 / Virus Database: 268.18.5/706 - Release Date:
>>> > 2/28/2007
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Speakup mailing list
>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>
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