Re: partition magic

Re: partition magic

[Geoff Shang]

Hi:

Ext2 is a far superior file system to fat32, so use that for linux if you
at all can.

I personally think that having linux on its own drive is far easier than
having it on the same drive as windows, so do that if you can.  then
cylinders don't come into it.  I've never done dual boot on the one drive
but I'm sure someone else here would have.

Geoff.


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Re: partition magic

[Gregory Nowak]

I didn't even think that gnu/linux would run on fat32.
Greg


On Sun, Mar 31, 2002 at 03:32:53PM +1000, Geoff Shang wrote:
> Hi:
> 
> Ext2 is a far superior file system to fat32, so use that for linux if you
> at all can.
> 
> I personally think that having linux on its own drive is far easier than
> having it on the same drive as windows, so do that if you can.  then
> cylinders don't come into it.  I've never done dual boot on the one drive
> but I'm sure someone else here would have.
> 
> Geoff.
> 
> 
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Re: Memory Considerations

[Geoff Shang]

On Sun, 31 Mar 2002, Jared wrote:

> All I have is a 4 gig drive that was what came with this. Could I install
> redhat on this drive and have enough room to spair.

I'm running Debian on a 2 gig drive.  I'm running out of space now, but
that's with 3 years worth clutter on there as well (and this system
supports 2 uers as well).  So I'd definitely say yes, especially if you
don't want Xwindows (which you probably don't).

> Cood I then read off my
> fat32 for stuff like music on the windows drive?

Yep.

> If I use x2 for a file
> system on my c drive will it be possible to dule boot?

Urrrr. I don't understand the question.  Filesystems are on partitions, not
drives.  So you could have an ext2 filesystem and a fat32 filesystem on
seperate partitions on the same drive.

Geoff.




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partition magic

[Jared]

Hello I have a copy of partition magic 7.0 When I go into a wiserd and slect
install linux as an option it gives me an x2 or some type of file system
like that. Do I want this as a seporate partition on the same fat32 drive
with windows 98 or should I just partition another drive chunk off tell it
it is going to boot win mellenium, then install linux since I've heard it
can use fat32? Also if I use what partition magic gives me how will the
partitioning part of installation go? How can I tell if I will be on the
write number of silinders? Thanks for any help with this.

Memory Considerations

[Jared]

All I have is a 4 gig drive that was what came with this. Could I install
redhat on this drive and have enough room to spair. Cood I then read off my
fat32 for stuff like music on the windows drive? If I use x2 for a file
system on my c drive will it be possible to dule boot?

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Geoff Shang
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 9:33 PM
To: Speakup Mailing List (E-mail)
Subject: Re: partition magic


Hi:

Ext2 is a far superior file system to fat32, so use that for linux if you
at all can.

I personally think that having linux on its own drive is far easier than
having it on the same drive as windows, so do that if you can.  then
cylinders don't come into it.  I've never done dual boot on the one drive
but I'm sure someone else here would have.

Geoff.


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RE: Memory Considerations

[Jared]

Ok I accually am going to put x-windows on my machine for some of my sighted
friends to be able to use. How will this effect the memory needed? I will
probibly be putting it on a seporate partition on meyc drive then for more
room.

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Geoff Shang
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 11:09 PM
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: Memory Considerations


On Sun, 31 Mar 2002, Jared wrote:

> All I have is a 4 gig drive that was what came with this. Could I install
> redhat on this drive and have enough room to spair.

I'm running Debian on a 2 gig drive.  I'm running out of space now, but
that's with 3 years worth clutter on there as well (and this system
supports 2 uers as well).  So I'd definitely say yes, especially if you
don't want Xwindows (which you probably don't).

> Cood I then read off my
> fat32 for stuff like music on the windows drive?

Yep.

> If I use x2 for a file
> system on my c drive will it be possible to dule boot?

Urrrr. I don't understand the question.  Filesystems are on partitions, not
drives.  So you could have an ext2 filesystem and a fat32 filesystem on
seperate partitions on the same drive.

Geoff.




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Re: Memory Considerations

[Thomas Ward]

If you plan to put x Windows on you can cut down a lot of the size by only
using one desktop such as Gnome, and not installing the x development stuff.
If you select your packages carefully I had X, and my favorite apps with in
1.2 GB.

----- Original Message -----
From: Jared <jared-stofflett@twmi.rr.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 5:10 AM
Subject: RE: Memory Considerations


> Ok I accually am going to put x-windows on my machine for some of my
sighted
> friends to be able to use. How will this effect the memory needed? I will
> probibly be putting it on a seporate partition on meyc drive then for more
> room.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
> [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Geoff Shang
> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 11:09 PM
> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> Subject: Re: Memory Considerations
>
>
> On Sun, 31 Mar 2002, Jared wrote:
>
> > All I have is a 4 gig drive that was what came with this. Could I
install
> > redhat on this drive and have enough room to spair.
>
> I'm running Debian on a 2 gig drive.  I'm running out of space now, but
> that's with 3 years worth clutter on there as well (and this system
> supports 2 uers as well).  So I'd definitely say yes, especially if you
> don't want Xwindows (which you probably don't).
>
> > Cood I then read off my
> > fat32 for stuff like music on the windows drive?
>
> Yep.
>
> > If I use x2 for a file
> > system on my c drive will it be possible to dule boot?
>
> Urrrr. I don't understand the question.  Filesystems are on partitions,
not
> drives.  So you could have an ext2 filesystem and a fat32 filesystem on
> seperate partitions on the same drive.
>
> Geoff.
>
>
>
>
> --
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> ICQ number 43634701
>
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RE: Memory Considerations

[Georgina Joyce]

Hi

I'm a little confused what the questions are on this thread.  You can run X
Windows on a 486 with 8Mb ram.  If you have a machine with a 4Gb hard drive
I'm guessing that you have more RAM thanthat.  It appears that you have
Windows on a 4Gb hard drive.  Well, how much has it used.  What is important
is how much free disk space do you have and the memory, I guess, if you have
less than 16Mb, which I suspect is not the case.

If you're going to go ahead with a Linux installation you need to run defrag
then resize your Windows partition smaller to create free space but back up
I said, BACK UP all your critical
data.

Please state clearly what you currently wish to do with what resources.

Gena
-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Jared
Sent: 31 March 2002 11:10
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: RE: Memory Considerations


Ok I accually am going to put x-windows on my machine for some of my sighted
friends to be able to use. How will this effect the memory needed? I will
probibly be putting it on a seporate partition on meyc drive then for more
room.

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Geoff Shang
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 11:09 PM
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: Memory Considerations


On Sun, 31 Mar 2002, Jared wrote:

> All I have is a 4 gig drive that was what came with this. Could I install
> redhat on this drive and have enough room to spair.

I'm running Debian on a 2 gig drive.  I'm running out of space now, but
that's with 3 years worth clutter on there as well (and this system
supports 2 uers as well).  So I'd definitely say yes, especially if you
don't want Xwindows (which you probably don't).

> Cood I then read off my
> fat32 for stuff like music on the windows drive?

Yep.

> If I use x2 for a file
> system on my c drive will it be possible to dule boot?

Urrrr. I don't understand the question.  Filesystems are on partitions, not
drives.  So you could have an ext2 filesystem and a fat32 filesystem on
seperate partitions on the same drive.

Geoff.




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Re: partition magic

[Igor Gueths]

Hi. You want to use Ext2, for this is the default filesystem that Linux
uses. For the number of cylindars, Partition Magic will usually set this
for you as far as I know. The only problem I have noticed with the program
is that if you re-size your windows partition and re-start the machine,
Windows stil reports the filesize as if you never re-sized the partition.
Provided you have unallocated space on your hd without any filesystem on
it, just install something like Debian and use Fdisk to create your ext2
partition. In my case, I nuked windows and now have a linux-only system.
If you want to set up a duel-boot system, you can try using partition
magic to create the Ext2 filesystem, but I can't garantee that it will
work.

On Sat, 30 Mar 2002, Jared wrote:

> Hello I have a copy of partition magic 7.0 When I go into a wiserd and slect
> install linux as an option it gives me an x2 or some type of file system
> like that. Do I want this as a seporate partition on the same fat32 drive
> with windows 98 or should I just partition another drive chunk off tell it
> it is going to boot win mellenium, then install linux since I've heard it
> can use fat32? Also if I use what partition magic gives me how will the
> partitioning part of installation go? How can I tell if I will be on the
> write number of silinders? Thanks for any help with this.
>
>
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Re: Memory Considerations

[Gregory Nowak]

How do you propose getting 13+6 gb out of a 4 gb drive?
Greg


On Sun, Mar 31, 2002 at 11:08:59AM -0800, Jared wrote:
> I wish to partition my hard drive the c drive in to a 13 gig chunk for
> windows running fat32 and a six gig chunk running x2. I wish to do this with
> partition magic. I'm running a selleron 501 megeherts processor and have 256
> megs of sd ram.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
> [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
> Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 6:46 AM
> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> Subject: RE: Memory Considerations
> 
> 
> Hi
> 
> I'm a little confused what the questions are on this thread.  You can run X
> Windows on a 486 with 8Mb ram.  If you have a machine with a 4Gb hard drive
> I'm guessing that you have more RAM thanthat.  It appears that you have
> Windows on a 4Gb hard drive.  Well, how much has it used.  What is important
> is how much free disk space do you have and the memory, I guess, if you have
> less than 16Mb, which I suspect is not the case.
> 
> If you're going to go ahead with a Linux installation you need to run defrag
> then resize your Windows partition smaller to create free space but back up
> I said, BACK UP all your critical
> data.
> 
> Please state clearly what you currently wish to do with what resources.
> 
> Gena
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
> [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Jared
> Sent: 31 March 2002 11:10
> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> Subject: RE: Memory Considerations
> 
> 
> Ok I accually am going to put x-windows on my machine for some of my sighted
> friends to be able to use. How will this effect the memory needed? I will
> probibly be putting it on a seporate partition on meyc drive then for more
> room.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
> [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Geoff Shang
> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 11:09 PM
> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> Subject: Re: Memory Considerations
> 
> 
> On Sun, 31 Mar 2002, Jared wrote:
> 
> > All I have is a 4 gig drive that was what came with this. Could I install
> > redhat on this drive and have enough room to spair.
> 
> I'm running Debian on a 2 gig drive.  I'm running out of space now, but
> that's with 3 years worth clutter on there as well (and this system
> supports 2 uers as well).  So I'd definitely say yes, especially if you
> don't want Xwindows (which you probably don't).
> 
> > Cood I then read off my
> > fat32 for stuff like music on the windows drive?
> 
> Yep.
> 
> > If I use x2 for a file
> > system on my c drive will it be possible to dule boot?
> 
> Urrrr. I don't understand the question.  Filesystems are on partitions, not
> drives.  So you could have an ext2 filesystem and a fat32 filesystem on
> seperate partitions on the same drive.
> 
> Geoff.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
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> ICQ number 43634701
> 
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RE: Memory Considerations

[Jared]

I wish to partition my hard drive the c drive in to a 13 gig chunk for
windows running fat32 and a six gig chunk running x2. I wish to do this with
partition magic. I'm running a selleron 501 megeherts processor and have 256
megs of sd ram.

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 6:46 AM
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: RE: Memory Considerations


Hi

I'm a little confused what the questions are on this thread.  You can run X
Windows on a 486 with 8Mb ram.  If you have a machine with a 4Gb hard drive
I'm guessing that you have more RAM thanthat.  It appears that you have
Windows on a 4Gb hard drive.  Well, how much has it used.  What is important
is how much free disk space do you have and the memory, I guess, if you have
less than 16Mb, which I suspect is not the case.

If you're going to go ahead with a Linux installation you need to run defrag
then resize your Windows partition smaller to create free space but back up
I said, BACK UP all your critical
data.

Please state clearly what you currently wish to do with what resources.

Gena
-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Jared
Sent: 31 March 2002 11:10
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: RE: Memory Considerations


Ok I accually am going to put x-windows on my machine for some of my sighted
friends to be able to use. How will this effect the memory needed? I will
probibly be putting it on a seporate partition on meyc drive then for more
room.

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Geoff Shang
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 11:09 PM
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: Memory Considerations


On Sun, 31 Mar 2002, Jared wrote:

> All I have is a 4 gig drive that was what came with this. Could I install
> redhat on this drive and have enough room to spair.

I'm running Debian on a 2 gig drive.  I'm running out of space now, but
that's with 3 years worth clutter on there as well (and this system
supports 2 uers as well).  So I'd definitely say yes, especially if you
don't want Xwindows (which you probably don't).

> Cood I then read off my
> fat32 for stuff like music on the windows drive?

Yep.

> If I use x2 for a file
> system on my c drive will it be possible to dule boot?

Urrrr. I don't understand the question.  Filesystems are on partitions, not
drives.  So you could have an ext2 filesystem and a fat32 filesystem on
seperate partitions on the same drive.

Geoff.




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Re: partition magic

[Alex Snow]

Well, let's get one thing straight: There's no such thing as a "fat32
drive".  There is a fat32 partition though.  What you want is to make a new
partition, and when asked, use exf2 as the filesystem.
Alex Snow
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jared" <jared-stofflett@twmi.rr.com>
To: "Speakup Mailing List (E-mail)" <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 2:22 AM
Subject: partition magic


> Hello I have a copy of partition magic 7.0 When I go into a wiserd and
slect
> install linux as an option it gives me an x2 or some type of file system
> like that. Do I want this as a seporate partition on the same fat32 drive
> with windows 98 or should I just partition another drive chunk off tell it
> it is going to boot win mellenium, then install linux since I've heard it
> can use fat32? Also if I use what partition magic gives me how will the
> partitioning part of installation go? How can I tell if I will be on the
> write number of silinders? Thanks for any help with this.
>
>
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RE: Memory Considerations

[Georgina Joyce]

Hi

Well you have 2 choices:

Option 1
Just start a GNU / Linux installation and use Linux fdisk to:

Delete the existing partition.  WHICH WILL DESTROY ALL DATA, I SAID, ALL
DATA WILL BE LOST.

Create a partition for nearly the whole of the disk, leaving 120Mb or
whatever you feel appropriate for swop space.  There's plenty of discussion
on using swop space with large amounts of RAM but my understanding is still
to have some.  Set the partition to type 83. which will be the default.

Create the a partition in the free space to type 82.

Now you can just go ahead and start the install.

Option 2:

Use partition Magic to resize the Windows drive and use the free space as in
option 1.




-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Jared
Sent: 31 March 2002 21:54
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: RE: Memory Considerations


I have a 4 gb drive as my d and a 19 gb drive with windows on it as my c
drive with about 5 gb or less currently being used

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Gregory Nowak
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 9:43 AM
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: Memory Considerations


How do you propose getting 13+6 gb out of a 4 gb drive?
Greg


On Sun, Mar 31, 2002 at 11:08:59AM -0800, Jared wrote:
> I wish to partition my hard drive the c drive in to a 13 gig chunk for
> windows running fat32 and a six gig chunk running x2. I wish to do this
with
> partition magic. I'm running a selleron 501 megeherts processor and have
256
> megs of sd ram.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
> [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
> Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 6:46 AM
> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> Subject: RE: Memory Considerations
>
>
> Hi
>
> I'm a little confused what the questions are on this thread.  You can run
X
> Windows on a 486 with 8Mb ram.  If you have a machine with a 4Gb hard
drive
> I'm guessing that you have more RAM thanthat.  It appears that you have
> Windows on a 4Gb hard drive.  Well, how much has it used.  What is
important
> is how much free disk space do you have and the memory, I guess, if you
have
> less than 16Mb, which I suspect is not the case.
>
> If you're going to go ahead with a Linux installation you need to run
defrag
> then resize your Windows partition smaller to create free space but back
up
> I said, BACK UP all your critical
> data.
>
> Please state clearly what you currently wish to do with what resources.
>
> Gena
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
> [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Jared
> Sent: 31 March 2002 11:10
> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> Subject: RE: Memory Considerations
>
>
> Ok I accually am going to put x-windows on my machine for some of my
sighted
> friends to be able to use. How will this effect the memory needed? I will
> probibly be putting it on a seporate partition on meyc drive then for more
> room.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
> [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Geoff Shang
> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 11:09 PM
> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> Subject: Re: Memory Considerations
>
>
> On Sun, 31 Mar 2002, Jared wrote:
>
> > All I have is a 4 gig drive that was what came with this. Could I
install
> > redhat on this drive and have enough room to spair.
>
> I'm running Debian on a 2 gig drive.  I'm running out of space now, but
> that's with 3 years worth clutter on there as well (and this system
> supports 2 uers as well).  So I'd definitely say yes, especially if you
> don't want Xwindows (which you probably don't).
>
> > Cood I then read off my
> > fat32 for stuff like music on the windows drive?
>
> Yep.
>
> > If I use x2 for a file
> > system on my c drive will it be possible to dule boot?
>
> Urrrr. I don't understand the question.  Filesystems are on partitions,
not
> drives.  So you could have an ext2 filesystem and a fat32 filesystem on
> seperate partitions on the same drive.
>
> Geoff.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Geoff Shang <gshang@uq.net.au>
> ICQ number 43634701
>
> Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
> See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
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RE: partition magic

[Georgina Joyce]

Hi

Just a thought, if your using JFW, uninstall it before resizing partitions
because JFW tokens don't like being moved so they remove themselves.

As a start, I'd just put GNU / Linux on the second hard disk leaving
Windblows to blow its hot air.

If it was me I'd partition the bigger drive and put GNU / Linux on that and
use the second disk (d:) as a backup drive for both Windblows files and
Linux.

Gena
-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Alex Snow
Sent: 31 March 2002 20:09
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: partition magic


Well, let's get one thing straight: There's no such thing as a "fat32
drive".  There is a fat32 partition though.  What you want is to make a new
partition, and when asked, use exf2 as the filesystem.
Alex Snow
email: alex8887@hotmail.com
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jared" <jared-stofflett@twmi.rr.com>
To: "Speakup Mailing List (E-mail)" <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 2:22 AM
Subject: partition magic


> Hello I have a copy of partition magic 7.0 When I go into a wiserd and
slect
> install linux as an option it gives me an x2 or some type of file system
> like that. Do I want this as a seporate partition on the same fat32 drive
> with windows 98 or should I just partition another drive chunk off tell it
> it is going to boot win mellenium, then install linux since I've heard it
> can use fat32? Also if I use what partition magic gives me how will the
> partitioning part of installation go? How can I tell if I will be on the
> write number of silinders? Thanks for any help with this.
>
>
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Re: partition magic

[Alex Snow]

Do you know ware the tokins are lockated (folder)?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Georgina Joyce" <gena@gena-j.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 3:31 PM
Subject: RE: partition magic


> Hi
>
> Just a thought, if your using JFW, uninstall it before resizing partitions
> because JFW tokens don't like being moved so they remove themselves.
>
> As a start, I'd just put GNU / Linux on the second hard disk leaving
> Windblows to blow its hot air.
>
> If it was me I'd partition the bigger drive and put GNU / Linux on that
and
> use the second disk (d:) as a backup drive for both Windblows files and
> Linux.
>
> Gena
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
> [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Alex Snow
> Sent: 31 March 2002 20:09
> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> Subject: Re: partition magic
>
>
> Well, let's get one thing straight: There's no such thing as a "fat32
> drive".  There is a fat32 partition though.  What you want is to make a
new
> partition, and when asked, use exf2 as the filesystem.
> Alex Snow
> email: alex8887@hotmail.com
> BBS: Telnet://bbs1.dyndns.org
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jared" <jared-stofflett@twmi.rr.com>
> To: "Speakup Mailing List (E-mail)" <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 2:22 AM
> Subject: partition magic
>
>
> > Hello I have a copy of partition magic 7.0 When I go into a wiserd and
> slect
> > install linux as an option it gives me an x2 or some type of file system
> > like that. Do I want this as a seporate partition on the same fat32
drive
> > with windows 98 or should I just partition another drive chunk off tell
it
> > it is going to boot win mellenium, then install linux since I've heard
it
> > can use fat32? Also if I use what partition magic gives me how will the
> > partitioning part of installation go? How can I tell if I will be on the
> > write number of silinders? Thanks for any help with this.
> >
> >
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RE: Memory Considerations

[Jared]

I have a 4 gb drive as my d and a 19 gb drive with windows on it as my c
drive with about 5 gb or less currently being used

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Gregory Nowak
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 9:43 AM
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: Memory Considerations


How do you propose getting 13+6 gb out of a 4 gb drive?
Greg


On Sun, Mar 31, 2002 at 11:08:59AM -0800, Jared wrote:
> I wish to partition my hard drive the c drive in to a 13 gig chunk for
> windows running fat32 and a six gig chunk running x2. I wish to do this
with
> partition magic. I'm running a selleron 501 megeherts processor and have
256
> megs of sd ram.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
> [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
> Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 6:46 AM
> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> Subject: RE: Memory Considerations
>
>
> Hi
>
> I'm a little confused what the questions are on this thread.  You can run
X
> Windows on a 486 with 8Mb ram.  If you have a machine with a 4Gb hard
drive
> I'm guessing that you have more RAM thanthat.  It appears that you have
> Windows on a 4Gb hard drive.  Well, how much has it used.  What is
important
> is how much free disk space do you have and the memory, I guess, if you
have
> less than 16Mb, which I suspect is not the case.
>
> If you're going to go ahead with a Linux installation you need to run
defrag
> then resize your Windows partition smaller to create free space but back
up
> I said, BACK UP all your critical
> data.
>
> Please state clearly what you currently wish to do with what resources.
>
> Gena
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
> [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Jared
> Sent: 31 March 2002 11:10
> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> Subject: RE: Memory Considerations
>
>
> Ok I accually am going to put x-windows on my machine for some of my
sighted
> friends to be able to use. How will this effect the memory needed? I will
> probibly be putting it on a seporate partition on meyc drive then for more
> room.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
> [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Geoff Shang
> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 11:09 PM
> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> Subject: Re: Memory Considerations
>
>
> On Sun, 31 Mar 2002, Jared wrote:
>
> > All I have is a 4 gig drive that was what came with this. Could I
install
> > redhat on this drive and have enough room to spair.
>
> I'm running Debian on a 2 gig drive.  I'm running out of space now, but
> that's with 3 years worth clutter on there as well (and this system
> supports 2 uers as well).  So I'd definitely say yes, especially if you
> don't want Xwindows (which you probably don't).
>
> > Cood I then read off my
> > fat32 for stuff like music on the windows drive?
>
> Yep.
>
> > If I use x2 for a file
> > system on my c drive will it be possible to dule boot?
>
> Urrrr. I don't understand the question.  Filesystems are on partitions,
not
> drives.  So you could have an ext2 filesystem and a fat32 filesystem on
> seperate partitions on the same drive.
>
> Geoff.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Geoff Shang <gshang@uq.net.au>
> ICQ number 43634701
>
> Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
> See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
>
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RE: partition magic

[Georgina Joyce]

Hi

It's in the root.  It has funny attributes as a part of its copy protection.

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Alex Snow
Sent: 31 March 2002 21:37
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: partition magic


Do you know ware the tokins are lockated (folder)?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Georgina Joyce" <gena@gena-j.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 3:31 PM
Subject: RE: partition magic


> Hi
>
> Just a thought, if your using JFW, uninstall it before resizing partitions
> because JFW tokens don't like being moved so they remove themselves.
>
> As a start, I'd just put GNU / Linux on the second hard disk leaving
> Windblows to blow its hot air.
>
> If it was me I'd partition the bigger drive and put GNU / Linux on that
and
> use the second disk (d:) as a backup drive for both Windblows files and
> Linux.
>
> Gena
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
> [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Alex Snow
> Sent: 31 March 2002 20:09
> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> Subject: Re: partition magic
>
>
> Well, let's get one thing straight: There's no such thing as a "fat32
> drive".  There is a fat32 partition though.  What you want is to make a
new
> partition, and when asked, use exf2 as the filesystem.
> Alex Snow
> email: alex8887@hotmail.com
> BBS: Telnet://bbs1.dyndns.org
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jared" <jared-stofflett@twmi.rr.com>
> To: "Speakup Mailing List (E-mail)" <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 2:22 AM
> Subject: partition magic
>
>
> > Hello I have a copy of partition magic 7.0 When I go into a wiserd and
> slect
> > install linux as an option it gives me an x2 or some type of file system
> > like that. Do I want this as a seporate partition on the same fat32
drive
> > with windows 98 or should I just partition another drive chunk off tell
it
> > it is going to boot win mellenium, then install linux since I've heard
it
> > can use fat32? Also if I use what partition magic gives me how will the
> > partitioning part of installation go? How can I tell if I will be on the
> > write number of silinders? Thanks for any help with this.
> >
> >
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RE: partition magic

[Jared]

Thanks for the warning about jaws tokens.

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Georgina Joyce
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 12:32 PM
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: RE: partition magic


Hi

Just a thought, if your using JFW, uninstall it before resizing partitions
because JFW tokens don't like being moved so they remove themselves.

As a start, I'd just put GNU / Linux on the second hard disk leaving
Windblows to blow its hot air.

If it was me I'd partition the bigger drive and put GNU / Linux on that and
use the second disk (d:) as a backup drive for both Windblows files and
Linux.

Gena
-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Alex Snow
Sent: 31 March 2002 20:09
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: partition magic


Well, let's get one thing straight: There's no such thing as a "fat32
drive".  There is a fat32 partition though.  What you want is to make a new
partition, and when asked, use exf2 as the filesystem.
Alex Snow
email: alex8887@hotmail.com
BBS: Telnet://bbs1.dyndns.org
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jared" <jared-stofflett@twmi.rr.com>
To: "Speakup Mailing List (E-mail)" <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 2:22 AM
Subject: partition magic


> Hello I have a copy of partition magic 7.0 When I go into a wiserd and
slect
> install linux as an option it gives me an x2 or some type of file system
> like that. Do I want this as a seporate partition on the same fat32 drive
> with windows 98 or should I just partition another drive chunk off tell it
> it is going to boot win mellenium, then install linux since I've heard it
> can use fat32? Also if I use what partition magic gives me how will the
> partitioning part of installation go? How can I tell if I will be on the
> write number of silinders? Thanks for any help with this.
>
>
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RE: partition magic

[Jared]

Its a hidden system file that resides in the boot record I think. You have
to use a special program to copy the hjauth disks ad well something about
spicific corrupted sectors.

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Alex Snow
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 12:37 PM
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: partition magic


Do you know ware the tokins are lockated (folder)?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Georgina Joyce" <gena@gena-j.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 3:31 PM
Subject: RE: partition magic


> Hi
>
> Just a thought, if your using JFW, uninstall it before resizing partitions
> because JFW tokens don't like being moved so they remove themselves.
>
> As a start, I'd just put GNU / Linux on the second hard disk leaving
> Windblows to blow its hot air.
>
> If it was me I'd partition the bigger drive and put GNU / Linux on that
and
> use the second disk (d:) as a backup drive for both Windblows files and
> Linux.
>
> Gena
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
> [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Alex Snow
> Sent: 31 March 2002 20:09
> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> Subject: Re: partition magic
>
>
> Well, let's get one thing straight: There's no such thing as a "fat32
> drive".  There is a fat32 partition though.  What you want is to make a
new
> partition, and when asked, use exf2 as the filesystem.
> Alex Snow
> email: alex8887@hotmail.com
> BBS: Telnet://bbs1.dyndns.org
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jared" <jared-stofflett@twmi.rr.com>
> To: "Speakup Mailing List (E-mail)" <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 2:22 AM
> Subject: partition magic
>
>
> > Hello I have a copy of partition magic 7.0 When I go into a wiserd and
> slect
> > install linux as an option it gives me an x2 or some type of file system
> > like that. Do I want this as a seporate partition on the same fat32
drive
> > with windows 98 or should I just partition another drive chunk off tell
it
> > it is going to boot win mellenium, then install linux since I've heard
it
> > can use fat32? Also if I use what partition magic gives me how will the
> > partitioning part of installation go? How can I tell if I will be on the
> > write number of silinders? Thanks for any help with this.
> >
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RE: partition magic

[Thomas D. Ward]

They are hidden on the floppy, in a secretly formatited place. The disks 
are good, but to windows they look like bad sectors.
copying Jaws auth disks are a  real pain, but it is do able with he 
right tools.
 fOR MANY REASONS i AM NOT GOING TO DISCLOSE TO ANYONE HOW IT IS DONE.

On Sun, 31 Mar 2002, Jared wrote:

> Its a hidden system file that resides in the boot record I think. You have
> to use a special program to copy the hjauth disks ad well something about
> spicific corrupted sectors.
> 
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> From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
> [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Alex Snow
> Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 12:37 PM
> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> Subject: Re: partition magic
> 
> 
> Do you know ware the tokins are lockated (folder)?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Georgina Joyce" <gena@gena-j.net>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 3:31 PM
> Subject: RE: partition magic
> 
> 
> > Hi
> >
> > Just a thought, if your using JFW, uninstall it before resizing partitions
> > because JFW tokens don't like being moved so they remove themselves.
> >
> > As a start, I'd just put GNU / Linux on the second hard disk leaving
> > Windblows to blow its hot air.
> >
> > If it was me I'd partition the bigger drive and put GNU / Linux on that
> and
> > use the second disk (d:) as a backup drive for both Windblows files and
> > Linux.
> >
> > Gena
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
> > [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Alex Snow
> > Sent: 31 March 2002 20:09
> > To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > Subject: Re: partition magic
> >
> >
> > Well, let's get one thing straight: There's no such thing as a "fat32
> > drive".  There is a fat32 partition though.  What you want is to make a
> new
> > partition, and when asked, use exf2 as the filesystem.
> > Alex Snow
> > email: alex8887@hotmail.com
> > BBS: Telnet://bbs1.dyndns.org
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jared" <jared-stofflett@twmi.rr.com>
> > To: "Speakup Mailing List (E-mail)" <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 2:22 AM
> > Subject: partition magic
> >
> >
> > > Hello I have a copy of partition magic 7.0 When I go into a wiserd and
> > slect
> > > install linux as an option it gives me an x2 or some type of file system
> > > like that. Do I want this as a seporate partition on the same fat32
> drive
> > > with windows 98 or should I just partition another drive chunk off tell
> it
> > > it is going to boot win mellenium, then install linux since I've heard
> it
> > > can use fat32? Also if I use what partition magic gives me how will the
> > > partitioning part of installation go? How can I tell if I will be on the
> > > write number of silinders? Thanks for any help with this.
> > >
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RE: partition magic

[Shaun Oliver]

On Sun, 31 Mar 2002, Jared wrote:

> Its a hidden system file that resides in the boot record I think. You have
> to use a special program to copy the hjauth disks ad well something about
> spicific corrupted sectors.

a fake. the jfw.cps file resides in a directory of the same name on yur c
drive.
yes the authorisation disks have hard errors on them that's so as to
prevent people like me copying them. >evil grin>.
to remove your jfw authorisation key, do the following.
1. place the authorisation disk in the floppy drive.
2. hit the right windows in conuunction with the letter r of press
ctrl+esc and r for run
and this sill bring up the run dialog.
type in the following path and file name. "a:\hjauth.exe" minus the
quotes.
once that hjauth window comes up tab to the group of radio buttons and
check the button that says remove token from hard drive and tab over to
execute and press the space bar on it.
bingo you're all done.
now do any disk maintainance you need to do tna then reinstall it using
that utility.
if you don't you'll fuck the whole thing up and depending on how many keys
you have left, you may end up having to ring freedom scientific for a
reset string.
hth


>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
> [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Alex Snow
> Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 12:37 PM
> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> Subject: Re: partition magic
>
>
> Do you know ware the tokins are lockated (folder)?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Georgina Joyce" <gena@gena-j.net>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 3:31 PM
> Subject: RE: partition magic
>
>
> > Hi
> >
> > Just a thought, if your using JFW, uninstall it before resizing partitions
> > because JFW tokens don't like being moved so they remove themselves.
> >
> > As a start, I'd just put GNU / Linux on the second hard disk leaving
> > Windblows to blow its hot air.
> >
> > If it was me I'd partition the bigger drive and put GNU / Linux on that
> and
> > use the second disk (d:) as a backup drive for both Windblows files and
> > Linux.
> >
> > Gena
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
> > [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Alex Snow
> > Sent: 31 March 2002 20:09
> > To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > Subject: Re: partition magic
> >
> >
> > Well, let's get one thing straight: There's no such thing as a "fat32
> > drive".  There is a fat32 partition though.  What you want is to make a
> new
> > partition, and when asked, use exf2 as the filesystem.
> > Alex Snow
> > email: alex8887@hotmail.com
> > BBS: Telnet://bbs1.dyndns.org
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jared" <jared-stofflett@twmi.rr.com>
> > To: "Speakup Mailing List (E-mail)" <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 2:22 AM
> > Subject: partition magic
> >
> >
> > > Hello I have a copy of partition magic 7.0 When I go into a wiserd and
> > slect
> > > install linux as an option it gives me an x2 or some type of file system
> > > like that. Do I want this as a seporate partition on the same fat32
> drive
> > > with windows 98 or should I just partition another drive chunk off tell
> it
> > > it is going to boot win mellenium, then install linux since I've heard
> it
> > > can use fat32? Also if I use what partition magic gives me how will the
> > > partitioning part of installation go? How can I tell if I will be on the
> > > write number of silinders? Thanks for any help with this.
> > >
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Re: partition magic

[Janina Sajka]

PM will take care of the tech ical details relating to blocks, sectors, 
cylinders, etc. Ext2 is a linux file system type, and an excellent choice. 
One partition is probably not the best way to go. You should read a little 
about partitioning. There are pointers in the attached HOWTO file.

Assuming your existing disk is fully formatted, PM will indeed need to 
"shave off" some amount of space in order to create partitions for a linux 
installation. There are other options, but they aren't ones that people 
adopt for more than a test run.
 On Sat, 30 Mar 2002, Jared wrote:

> Hello I have a copy of partition magic 7.0 When I go into a wiserd and slect
> install linux as an option it gives me an x2 or some type of file system
> like that. Do I want this as a seporate partition on the same fat32 drive
> with windows 98 or should I just partition another drive chunk off tell it
> it is going to boot win mellenium, then install linux since I've heard it
> can use fat32? Also if I use what partition magic gives me how will the
> partitioning part of installation go? How can I tell if I will be on the
> write number of silinders? Thanks for any help with this.
> 
> 
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Re: Memory Considerations

[Janina Sajka]

4gB is a bit tight if you intend to dual boot linux and Windows. If this 
is what you have to work with, do not install X as long as you intend to 
keep Windows. You'll need about 1gB for a full linux installation without 
X.

You can access anyfiles in fat or fat32 partitions from linux.
 On Sun, 31 
Mar 2002, Jared wrote:

> All I have is a 4 gig drive that was what came with this. Could I install
> redhat on this drive and have enough room to spair. Cood I then read off my
> fat32 for stuff like music on the windows drive? If I use x2 for a file
> system on my c drive will it be possible to dule boot?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
> [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Geoff Shang
> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 9:33 PM
> To: Speakup Mailing List (E-mail)
> Subject: Re: partition magic
> 
> 
> Hi:
> 
> Ext2 is a far superior file system to fat32, so use that for linux if you
> at all can.
> 
> I personally think that having linux on its own drive is far easier than
> having it on the same drive as windows, so do that if you can.  then
> cylinders don't come into it.  I've never done dual boot on the one drive
> but I'm sure someone else here would have.
> 
> Geoff.
> 
> 
> --
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> ICQ number 43634701
> 
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				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

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RE: Memory Considerations

[Janina Sajka]

Read the HOWTO I sent you. The questions you're asking are addressed in 
that document.

On Sun, 31 Mar 2002, Jared wrote:

> Ok I accually am going to put x-windows on my machine for some of my sighted
> friends to be able to use. How will this effect the memory needed? I will
> probibly be putting it on a seporate partition on meyc drive then for more
> room.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
> [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Geoff Shang
> Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 11:09 PM
> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> Subject: Re: Memory Considerations
> 
> 
> On Sun, 31 Mar 2002, Jared wrote:
> 
> > All I have is a 4 gig drive that was what came with this. Could I install
> > redhat on this drive and have enough room to spair.
> 
> I'm running Debian on a 2 gig drive.  I'm running out of space now, but
> that's with 3 years worth clutter on there as well (and this system
> supports 2 uers as well).  So I'd definitely say yes, especially if you
> don't want Xwindows (which you probably don't).
> 
> > Cood I then read off my
> > fat32 for stuff like music on the windows drive?
> 
> Yep.
> 
> > If I use x2 for a file
> > system on my c drive will it be possible to dule boot?
> 
> Urrrr. I don't understand the question.  Filesystems are on partitions, not
> drives.  So you could have an ext2 filesystem and a fat32 filesystem on
> seperate partitions on the same drive.
> 
> Geoff.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
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> ICQ number 43634701
> 
> Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
> See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
> 
> 
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Email: janina@afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175

Chair, Accessibility SIG
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Re: partition magic

[Igor Gueths]

Hi all. Thomas brought up a good point here. Is there a debug-like uility that runs under Linux? Because I would just love to take a look at those disk sectors! 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Thomas D. Ward <tward@bright.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 11:20 PM
Subject: RE: partition magic


> 
> They are hidden on the floppy, in a secretly formatited place. The disks 
> are good, but to windows they look like bad sectors.
> copying Jaws auth disks are a  real pain, but it is do able with he 
> right tools.
>  fOR MANY REASONS i AM NOT GOING TO DISCLOSE TO ANYONE HOW IT IS DONE.
> 
> On Sun, 31 Mar 2002, Jared wrote:
> 
> > Its a hidden system file that resides in the boot record I think. You have
> > to use a special program to copy the hjauth disks ad well something about
> > spicific corrupted sectors.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
> > [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Alex Snow
> > Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 12:37 PM
> > To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > Subject: Re: partition magic
> > 
> > 
> > Do you know ware the tokins are lockated (folder)?
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Georgina Joyce" <gena@gena-j.net>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 3:31 PM
> > Subject: RE: partition magic
> > 
> > 
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > Just a thought, if your using JFW, uninstall it before resizing partitions
> > > because JFW tokens don't like being moved so they remove themselves.
> > >
> > > As a start, I'd just put GNU / Linux on the second hard disk leaving
> > > Windblows to blow its hot air.
> > >
> > > If it was me I'd partition the bigger drive and put GNU / Linux on that
> > and
> > > use the second disk (d:) as a backup drive for both Windblows files and
> > > Linux.
> > >
> > > Gena
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
> > > [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Alex Snow
> > > Sent: 31 March 2002 20:09
> > > To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > Subject: Re: partition magic
> > >
> > >
> > > Well, let's get one thing straight: There's no such thing as a "fat32
> > > drive".  There is a fat32 partition though.  What you want is to make a
> > new
> > > partition, and when asked, use exf2 as the filesystem.
> > > Alex Snow
> > > email: alex8887@hotmail.com
> > > BBS: Telnet://bbs1.dyndns.org
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jared" <jared-stofflett@twmi.rr.com>
> > > To: "Speakup Mailing List (E-mail)" <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 2:22 AM
> > > Subject: partition magic
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hello I have a copy of partition magic 7.0 When I go into a wiserd and
> > > slect
> > > > install linux as an option it gives me an x2 or some type of file system
> > > > like that. Do I want this as a seporate partition on the same fat32
> > drive
> > > > with windows 98 or should I just partition another drive chunk off tell
> > it
> > > > it is going to boot win mellenium, then install linux since I've heard
> > it
> > > > can use fat32? Also if I use what partition magic gives me how will the
> > > > partitioning part of installation go? How can I tell if I will be on the
> > > > write number of silinders? Thanks for any help with this.
> > > >
> > > >
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Re: partition magic

[Igor Gueths]

Hi Shaun. Well I have been contemplating the jfw authorization scheme for a while. I will probably try to dig up some debug util and try to analyze the floppy disk sectors for anything that may be traced back to jfw. I say this because my friend bought a dell a while ago, and he figured out that Dell puts a compressed image of the system on a specific disk sector on the hd, so he had to use debug or something similar to remove it. 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Shaun Oliver <shauno@goanna.net.au>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 5:09 AM
Subject: RE: partition magic


> On Sun, 31 Mar 2002, Jared wrote:
> 
> > Its a hidden system file that resides in the boot record I think. You have
> > to use a special program to copy the hjauth disks ad well something about
> > spicific corrupted sectors.
> 
> a fake. the jfw.cps file resides in a directory of the same name on yur c
> drive.
> yes the authorisation disks have hard errors on them that's so as to
> prevent people like me copying them. >evil grin>.
> to remove your jfw authorisation key, do the following.
> 1. place the authorisation disk in the floppy drive.
> 2. hit the right windows in conuunction with the letter r of press
> ctrl+esc and r for run
> and this sill bring up the run dialog.
> type in the following path and file name. "a:\hjauth.exe" minus the
> quotes.
> once that hjauth window comes up tab to the group of radio buttons and
> check the button that says remove token from hard drive and tab over to
> execute and press the space bar on it.
> bingo you're all done.
> now do any disk maintainance you need to do tna then reinstall it using
> that utility.
> if you don't you'll fuck the whole thing up and depending on how many keys
> you have left, you may end up having to ring freedom scientific for a
> reset string.
> hth
> 
> 
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
> > [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Alex Snow
> > Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 12:37 PM
> > To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > Subject: Re: partition magic
> >
> >
> > Do you know ware the tokins are lockated (folder)?
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Georgina Joyce" <gena@gena-j.net>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 3:31 PM
> > Subject: RE: partition magic
> >
> >
> > > Hi
> > >
> > > Just a thought, if your using JFW, uninstall it before resizing partitions
> > > because JFW tokens don't like being moved so they remove themselves.
> > >
> > > As a start, I'd just put GNU / Linux on the second hard disk leaving
> > > Windblows to blow its hot air.
> > >
> > > If it was me I'd partition the bigger drive and put GNU / Linux on that
> > and
> > > use the second disk (d:) as a backup drive for both Windblows files and
> > > Linux.
> > >
> > > Gena
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
> > > [mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Alex Snow
> > > Sent: 31 March 2002 20:09
> > > To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > Subject: Re: partition magic
> > >
> > >
> > > Well, let's get one thing straight: There's no such thing as a "fat32
> > > drive".  There is a fat32 partition though.  What you want is to make a
> > new
> > > partition, and when asked, use exf2 as the filesystem.
> > > Alex Snow
> > > email: alex8887@hotmail.com
> > > BBS: Telnet://bbs1.dyndns.org
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jared" <jared-stofflett@twmi.rr.com>
> > > To: "Speakup Mailing List (E-mail)" <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 2:22 AM
> > > Subject: partition magic
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hello I have a copy of partition magic 7.0 When I go into a wiserd and
> > > slect
> > > > install linux as an option it gives me an x2 or some type of file system
> > > > like that. Do I want this as a seporate partition on the same fat32
> > drive
> > > > with windows 98 or should I just partition another drive chunk off tell
> > it
> > > > it is going to boot win mellenium, then install linux since I've heard
> > it
> > > > can use fat32? Also if I use what partition magic gives me how will the
> > > > partitioning part of installation go? How can I tell if I will be on the
> > > > write number of silinders? Thanks for any help with this.
> > > >
> > > >
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