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From: Roy Nickelson @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
hi,
are there any games that work with speakup?
Roy
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From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
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Yes, a lot. In slackware, they're in the bsdgames package. Your distro
probably has that too.
Greg
On Thu, Jun 10, 2004 at 07:59:58AM -0400, Roy Nickelson wrote:
> hi,
> are there any games that work with speakup?
> Roy
>
>
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From: Roy Nickelson @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
hi,
actually that doesn't appear to come with fedora 2.
I wil do a google search for it.
Roy
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From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 8:10 AM
Subject: Re: games
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Yes, a lot. In slackware, they're in the bsdgames package. Your distro
probably has that too.
Greg
On Thu, Jun 10, 2004 at 07:59:58AM -0400, Roy Nickelson wrote:
> hi,
> are there any games that work with speakup?
> Roy
>
>
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From: Steve Holmes @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
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While we're talking about games, how accessible is gnu chess? I've
seen it listed for years but never had a clue if blind people could
use it effectively or not. If it's any good, I might pull it up and
play with it a bit.
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From: Alex Snow @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
I know the windows port is accessible (I never used it but remember a link
on the hj website about it) but I have no idea about the *nix version. isn't
it x11 based though?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Holmes" <steve@holmesgrown.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: games
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> While we're talking about games, how accessible is gnu chess? I've
> seen it listed for years but never had a clue if blind people could
> use it effectively or not. If it's any good, I might pull it up and
> play with it a bit.
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games Roy Nickelson
` games Gregory Nowak
@ ` Luke Davis
` games Roy Nickelson
` games Ralph W. Reid
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From: Luke Davis @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Check /usr/games--several should.
On Thu, 10 Jun 2004, Roy Nickelson wrote:
> hi,
> are there any games that work with speakup?
> Roy
>
>
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` games Luke Davis
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From: Ralph W. Reid @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
On Thu, Jun 10, 2004 at 07:59:58AM -0400, Roy Nickelson wrote:
> hi,
> are there any games that work with speakup?
> Roy
>
Here on my Slackware 9.0 system, some games were installed in
/usr/games. If you are heavily into interactive fiction (text) games,
you might want to check out the interactive fiction site at
<a href="http://ifarchive.org">this place.</a>
If you want to get into online multi-user domains (MUDs), you might
want to start by looking up
<a href="http://www.game.org">this place.</a>
HTH, and have a _great_ day!
--
Ralph. N6BNO. Wisdom comes from central processing, not from I/O.
rreid@sunset.net http://personalweb.sunset.net/~rreid
Opinions herein are either mine or they are flame bait.
CIRCLE CIRCUMFERENCE = 2 * _pi * r
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From: Alex Snow @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
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also, if you like dungion type games you may want to check out
nethack. I forget the url but it's somewhere on sourceforge.
On Fri, Jun
11, 2004 at 12:00:48PM -0700, Ralph W. Reid wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 10, 2004 at 07:59:58AM -0400, Roy Nickelson wrote:
> > hi,
> > are there any games that work with speakup?
> > Roy
> >
>
> Here on my Slackware 9.0 system, some games were installed in
> /usr/games. If you are heavily into interactive fiction (text) games,
> you might want to check out the interactive fiction site at
>
> <a href="http://ifarchive.org">this place.</a>
>
> If you want to get into online multi-user domains (MUDs), you might
> want to start by looking up
>
> <a href="http://www.game.org">this place.</a>
>
> HTH, and have a _great_ day!
>
> --
> Ralph. N6BNO. Wisdom comes from central processing, not from I/O.
> rreid@sunset.net http://personalweb.sunset.net/~rreid
> Opinions herein are either mine or they are flame bait.
> CIRCLE CIRCUMFERENCE = 2 * _pi * r
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becomes so abysmal you'd rather heat pins under your toenails while reciting
Windows95 source code and staring at porn flicks of Bob Dole than actually try
to type something.
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From: Cheryl Homiak @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
I know there was a discussion on this list or blinux about usable chess so
you could search both archives if you're interested. It seemed to me like
gnuchess was used by some people, and I think there's a chess that works
with emacs/emacspeak too, but I don't remember all the details.
--
Cheryl
"Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."
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* RE: Linux and data storage?
@ Sina Bahram
` Karen Lewellen
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From: Sina Bahram @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'
Fxp can be found at
www.flashfxp.com
Hope that helps.
Take care,
Sina
No trees were destroyed in sending this message; however, a large number of
electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Karen Lewellen
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 9:15 PM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: RE: Linux and data storage?
hmm,
Let me be sure I follow you.
This is a program that runs in windows, that would let me move the contents
of my shellworld workspace, <i have ftp here too of course> to say the
storage on my website<where I also have ftp,> and that is not located on
shellworld?
if all this is true, where can i find this tool?
Karen
On Sun, 26 Sep 2004, Sina Bahram wrote:
> If I may humbly suggest?
>
> Fxp, or flash xp as I think it is...is a windows tool that allows
> someone to connect to one ftp, then connect to the other ftp...and
> then say, FTP A, copy stuff to FTP B....then all you have to do is sit
> back and let the data packets flow...it doesn't go through your system
> at all: so you could transfer information at any speed, only limited
> by the two ftp servers, not by your own connection.
>
> *shrug* is there a linux equivalent to this tool/protocall?
>
> Take care,
> Sina
>
> No trees were destroyed in sending this message; however, a large
> number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of Chuck Hallenbeck
> Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 8:51 PM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: Linux and data storage?
>
> Karen,
>
> You have two bottlenecks, seems to me. One is your connection speed,
> the other is nettamer. You can use "tar" on your ISP's system to
> aggregate those precious files into one archive, assuming you have the
> space, and then move that archive somewhere. Nettamer could retrieve
> it with its ftp facility, but it might take forever over a dialup link.
>
> If you had a linux desktop, you could use an ftp client on your
> desktop, call it "system A", to move files from "system B" to "system
> C", assuming you had the necessary access permissions and such.
>
> Also, you could email stuff to yourself with attachments, although
> nettamer is a little weird about attachments, and then you have filesize
limits.
>
> Finally, if you had a Linux desktop and a high speed connection you
> would be home free. Just grab all those files quickly with an FTP
> client, move them to your desktop, and burn them to a CD if you need to.
>
> My Linux system uses two 40 GB disks, one of which is used extensively
> to backup stuff on the other. Not exactly a raid system, but heavily
redundant.
> I do use CD backups too once in a blue moon.
>
> Your DOS desktop has limited HD storage. A Linux desktop would not. I
> have a DOS partition of 500 MB on each of my two 40 GB hard discs,
> just in case, but have not booted into DOS in several years. For my
> own situation, I cannot imagine ever being able (psychologically) to
> return to DOS and Nettamer.
>
> Chuck
>
>
>
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@ ` Karen Lewellen
` Hart Larry
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From: Karen Lewellen @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Thanks, It may.
While the Linux machine I have been waiting for nearly 6months or more
seems to be nonexistent, I know more than a few people who use windows
grin.
Karen
On Sun, 26 Sep 2004, Sina Bahram wrote:
> Fxp can be found at
>
> www.flashfxp.com
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Take care,
> Sina
>
> No trees were destroyed in sending this message; however, a large number of
> electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of Karen Lewellen
> Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 9:15 PM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: RE: Linux and data storage?
>
> hmm,
> Let me be sure I follow you.
> This is a program that runs in windows, that would let me move the contents
> of my shellworld workspace, <i have ftp here too of course> to say the
> storage on my website<where I also have ftp,> and that is not located on
> shellworld?
> if all this is true, where can i find this tool?
> Karen
>
> On Sun, 26 Sep 2004, Sina Bahram wrote:
>
>> If I may humbly suggest?
>>
>> Fxp, or flash xp as I think it is...is a windows tool that allows
>> someone to connect to one ftp, then connect to the other ftp...and
>> then say, FTP A, copy stuff to FTP B....then all you have to do is sit
>> back and let the data packets flow...it doesn't go through your system
>> at all: so you could transfer information at any speed, only limited
>> by the two ftp servers, not by your own connection.
>>
>> *shrug* is there a linux equivalent to this tool/protocall?
>>
>> Take care,
>> Sina
>>
>> No trees were destroyed in sending this message; however, a large
>> number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
>> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
>> On Behalf Of Chuck Hallenbeck
>> Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 8:51 PM
>> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
>> Subject: Re: Linux and data storage?
>>
>> Karen,
>>
>> You have two bottlenecks, seems to me. One is your connection speed,
>> the other is nettamer. You can use "tar" on your ISP's system to
>> aggregate those precious files into one archive, assuming you have the
>> space, and then move that archive somewhere. Nettamer could retrieve
>> it with its ftp facility, but it might take forever over a dialup link.
>>
>> If you had a linux desktop, you could use an ftp client on your
>> desktop, call it "system A", to move files from "system B" to "system
>> C", assuming you had the necessary access permissions and such.
>>
>> Also, you could email stuff to yourself with attachments, although
>> nettamer is a little weird about attachments, and then you have filesize
> limits.
>>
>> Finally, if you had a Linux desktop and a high speed connection you
>> would be home free. Just grab all those files quickly with an FTP
>> client, move them to your desktop, and burn them to a CD if you need to.
>>
>> My Linux system uses two 40 GB disks, one of which is used extensively
>> to backup stuff on the other. Not exactly a raid system, but heavily
> redundant.
>> I do use CD backups too once in a blue moon.
>>
>> Your DOS desktop has limited HD storage. A Linux desktop would not. I
>> have a DOS partition of 500 MB on each of my two 40 GB hard discs,
>> just in case, but have not booted into DOS in several years. For my
>> own situation, I cannot imagine ever being able (psychologically) to
>> return to DOS and Nettamer.
>>
>> Chuck
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>
>
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` Karen Lewellen
@ ` Hart Larry
` Terry D. Cudney
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From: Hart Larry @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
I agree with Karen, these last 30 hours on Shellworld should be a wakeup call
for all of us. While we have our files-and-data back again, I should really
consider eventually handling pine and all the features of a shell right here
locally. I suppose however, if I were running some mail server software, I
would almost never be able to boot the machine in to windows to run openbook,
as the mail server would not be collecting incoming messages?
Back in January, when I left CTS, another shell provider, I tried downloading
everything, but I may not have it all. I was thinking earlier that I was going
to have to move items around. Last night we tried logging in to cts, but I
think they are gone?
Hart
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` Karen Lewellen
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From: Terry D. Cudney @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Hi Karen, Larry, et al,
To answer your original question, Karen, if you get your linux machine up and running you can use 'rsync' to transfer selective file/directory/sub-directoies to/from the shell account to your linux box. That is, if the shellworld machine has 'rsync' available.
For your question Larry, if you want to dual boot between Linux and another OS you can do that easily using one of the boot managers (lilo or grub). If you are worried about losing mail while in the other OS, just let your ISP spool the mail while you are not up in Linux. You can do that by using a pop retrieval program like 'fetchmail' to retrieve mail periodically from your isp, or just put a '.forward' file in the home directory of your shell account to push mail to your mta (exim or whichever you like). You then just rename the .forward file to something else while booted to the other os on your local machine. Mail then waits in your mailbox on the ISP until you enable forwarding again.
There are just so many ways to do things in Linux! As others have mentioned, ftp, local redundancy, various backup methods, etc. It is very much worth the effort to move to Linux... <grin>
HTH,
--terry
On Sun, Sep 26, 2004 at 06:36:58PM -0700, Hart Larry wrote:
> I agree with Karen, these last 30 hours on Shellworld should be a wakeup
> call for all of us. While we have our files-and-data back again, I should
> really consider eventually handling pine and all the features of a shell
> right here locally. I suppose however, if I were running some mail server
> software, I would almost never be able to boot the machine in to windows to
> run openbook, as the mail server would not be collecting incoming messages?
> Back in January, when I left CTS, another shell provider, I tried
> downloading everything, but I may not have it all. I was thinking earlier
> that I was going to have to move items around. Last night we tried logging
> in to cts, but I think they are gone?
> Hart
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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` Terry D. Cudney
@ ` Karen Lewellen
` Terry D. Cudney
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From: Karen Lewellen @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Thanks, but i have no Linux machine to get up and running.
I have the promise of Linux machine that has not materialized, and no new
source for such a machine.
anyone do Linux config system setup work?
Karen
On Sun, 26 Sep 2004, Terry D. Cudney wrote:
> Hi Karen, Larry, et al,
>
> To answer your original question, Karen, if you get your linux machine up and running you can use 'rsync' to transfer selective file/directory/sub-directoies to/from the shell account to your linux box. That is, if the shellworld machine has 'rsync' available.
>
> For your question Larry, if you want to dual boot between Linux and another OS you can do that easily using one of the boot managers (lilo or grub). If you are worried about losing mail while in the other OS, just let your ISP spool the mail while you are not up in Linux. You can do that by using a pop retrieval program like 'fetchmail' to retrieve mail periodically from your isp, or just put a '.forward' file in the home directory of your shell account to push mail to your mta (exim or whichever you like). You then just rename the .forward file to something else while booted to the other os on your local machine. Mail then waits in your mailbox on the ISP until you enable forwarding again.
>
> There are just so many ways to do things in Linux! As others have mentioned, ftp, local redundancy, various backup methods, etc. It is very much worth the effort to move to Linux... <grin>
>
> HTH,
>
> --terry
>
> On Sun, Sep 26, 2004 at 06:36:58PM -0700, Hart Larry wrote:
>> I agree with Karen, these last 30 hours on Shellworld should be a wakeup
>> call for all of us. While we have our files-and-data back again, I should
>> really consider eventually handling pine and all the features of a shell
>> right here locally. I suppose however, if I were running some mail server
>> software, I would almost never be able to boot the machine in to windows to
>> run openbook, as the mail server would not be collecting incoming messages?
>> Back in January, when I left CTS, another shell provider, I tried
>> downloading everything, but I may not have it all. I was thinking earlier
>> that I was going to have to move items around. Last night we tried logging
>> in to cts, but I think they are gone?
>> Hart
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
> --
>
> Name: Terry D. Cudney
> Phone: (705) 422-0039
> E-mail: terry@wasaga.dyns.net
>
> Having a smoking section in a restaurant is like...
> having a peeing sectionin a swimming pool.
>
> Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
> See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
>
>
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` Karen Lewellen
@ ` Terry D. Cudney
` Hart Larry
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From: Terry D. Cudney @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Hi Karen,
Well, if you have a machine running DOS now, you have a machine that almost certainly would run Linux. The only two criteria that I can think of are 1) sufficient disk space to dual boot between Linux and your current OS and 2) a hardware synth that works with speakup.. For several years I ran Linux and Windows on one machine, booting Windows less and less often until recently I got rid of Windows on that machine altogether. Yes I do have another machine with Windows on it now but I didn't have a second machine for several years.
You did say that you don't have the time to set up Linux. I understand that. It does take time to setup/learn. But you don't have to abandon your other os while you do it. The time spent to learn to install/configure/manage your linux system is time that will pay rich dividends in the long run. On the other hand if you have someone else install/configure for you you still won't know how it works to be able to manage the system on a day-to-day basis.
I guess it depends on what yu want. If you want to use the power of Linux, you need to know how it works to some degree at least. You really learn that by doing your own installation and configuration.
If you or anyone wants to install linux on any system for personal use, my suggestion is to do the homework first, reading about the options available, methods of installation for your chosen linux distribution, etc. When you feel that you understand what you have to do, then go for it. the actual installation should easily be completed in an evening, after which you should still have your other os available if you want it.
As I said above though, it depends on what you want... If you really want Linux that is the best way to go. If it's too much bother for you, then probably it's not worth your time and just carry on with what you have already.
HTH,
--terry
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` Terry D. Cudney
@ ` Hart Larry
` games doc
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From: Hart Larry @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Well Terry, you are absolutely right. First of all Karen could use dosemu
while in linux. Gee, I wish I could better run that?
Next, you see that the first 2 years I was running DOS, I was just typing
commands. I had very little idea what they meant or how you use them in other
areas. Well, then in 1995 I got a shell account, but I knew nothing about
unix. I actually thought it should be declared a swear-word. I feel much
differently today.
Last October 2 friends installed linux--and certainly the machine is lots more
stable than the every other day crashes in windows.
Sure I still have plenty of outstanding issues, but basicly I would love to
find a live interactive linux class where I can learn the basics--and
eventually configure-and-installing programs, without as much handholding.
A live instructor would be the best
Thanks from Southern Cal
Hart
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` Hart Larry
@ ` doc
` games Jayson Smith
` games Gregory Nowak
0 siblings, 2 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: doc @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Are there any games available for linux?
Doc Wright
http://wrightplaceinc.net
If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?
then where does the learning start?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hart Larry" <chime@hubert-humphrey.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 9:35 PM
Subject: Re: Linux and data storage?
Well Terry, you are absolutely right. First of all Karen could use dosemu
while in linux. Gee, I wish I could better run that?
Next, you see that the first 2 years I was running DOS, I was just typing
commands. I had very little idea what they meant or how you use them in
other
areas. Well, then in 1995 I got a shell account, but I knew nothing about
unix. I actually thought it should be declared a swear-word. I feel much
differently today.
Last October 2 friends installed linux--and certainly the machine is lots
more
stable than the every other day crashes in windows.
Sure I still have plenty of outstanding issues, but basicly I would love to
find a live interactive linux class where I can learn the basics--and
eventually configure-and-installing programs, without as much handholding.
A live instructor would be the best
Thanks from Southern Cal
Hart
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` games doc
@ ` Jayson Smith
` games Gregory Nowak
1 sibling, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Jayson Smith @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: doc, Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
If you're talking about console games, there's a collection of games called
BSD Games. In Gentoo, the package name is bsd-games I think. Other
distributions probably have their own packages for it. I think with Debian
they are automatically installed. Some are less usable by a blind person
than others, but there are such classics as "Hunt the Wumpus" and "Advent",
as well as a very usable monopoly game called monop.
Jayson.
----- Original Message -----
From: "doc" <talmidim@wrightplaceinc.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 11:59 PM
Subject: games
> Are there any games available for linux?
> Doc Wright
> http://wrightplaceinc.net
> If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?
> then where does the learning start?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hart Larry" <chime@hubert-humphrey.com>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."
<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 9:35 PM
> Subject: Re: Linux and data storage?
>
>
> Well Terry, you are absolutely right. First of all Karen could use dosemu
> while in linux. Gee, I wish I could better run that?
> Next, you see that the first 2 years I was running DOS, I was just typing
> commands. I had very little idea what they meant or how you use them in
> other
> areas. Well, then in 1995 I got a shell account, but I knew nothing about
> unix. I actually thought it should be declared a swear-word. I feel much
> differently today.
> Last October 2 friends installed linux--and certainly the machine is lots
> more
> stable than the every other day crashes in windows.
> Sure I still have plenty of outstanding issues, but basicly I would love
to
> find a live interactive linux class where I can learn the basics--and
> eventually configure-and-installing programs, without as much handholding.
> A live instructor would be the best
> Thanks from Southern Cal
> Hart
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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` games doc
` games Jayson Smith
@ ` Gregory Nowak
1 sibling, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: doc, Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
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Yes, try the bsd games collection package, assuming your distribution
comes with it. Slackware does come with it in the I believe y series,
if you're using slackware.
Greg
On Sun, Sep 26, 2004 at 09:59:49PM -0600, doc wrote:
> Are there any games available for linux?
> Doc Wright
> http://wrightplaceinc.net
> If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?
> then where does the learning start?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Hart Larry" <chime@hubert-humphrey.com>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 9:35 PM
> Subject: Re: Linux and data storage?
>
>
> Well Terry, you are absolutely right. First of all Karen could use dosemu
> while in linux. Gee, I wish I could better run that?
> Next, you see that the first 2 years I was running DOS, I was just typing
> commands. I had very little idea what they meant or how you use them in
> other
> areas. Well, then in 1995 I got a shell account, but I knew nothing about
> unix. I actually thought it should be declared a swear-word. I feel much
> differently today.
> Last October 2 friends installed linux--and certainly the machine is lots
> more
> stable than the every other day crashes in windows.
> Sure I still have plenty of outstanding issues, but basicly I would love to
> find a live interactive linux class where I can learn the basics--and
> eventually configure-and-installing programs, without as much handholding.
> A live instructor would be the best
> Thanks from Southern Cal
> Hart
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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* games
@ Kirk Reiser
` games Octavian Rasnita
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From: Kirk Reiser @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Hi Folks: there has been some discussion about games and their
availability here on the list recently. I have uploaded to the
goodies directory a game Jim Danley wrote for my birthday last year
called maxit.gz. It is based on a game I used to play on my original
computer back in 1976 by the same name maxit. I think you may enjoy
it if you want something a bit different than just another adventure
game.
Kirk
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: games
games Kirk Reiser
@ ` Octavian Rasnita
` games Alex Snow
0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Octavian Rasnita @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Where is the "goodies?"
Thanks.
Teddy,
orasnita@home.ro
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kirk Reiser" <kirk@braille.uwo.ca>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 10:19 PM
Subject: games
Hi Folks: there has been some discussion about games and their
availability here on the list recently. I have uploaded to the
goodies directory a game Jim Danley wrote for my birthday last year
called maxit.gz. It is based on a game I used to play on my original
computer back in 1976 by the same name maxit. I think you may enjoy
it if you want something a bit different than just another adventure
game.
Kirk
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` games Octavian Rasnita
@ ` Alex Snow
0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Alex Snow @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
ftp://linux-speakup.org/pub/linux/goodies.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@home.ro>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 4:07 AM
Subject: Re: games
> Where is the "goodies?"
>
> Thanks.
> Teddy,
> orasnita@home.ro
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kirk Reiser" <kirk@braille.uwo.ca>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Monday, May 20, 2002 10:19 PM
> Subject: games
>
>
> Hi Folks: there has been some discussion about games and their
> availability here on the list recently. I have uploaded to the
> goodies directory a game Jim Danley wrote for my birthday last year
> called maxit.gz. It is based on a game I used to play on my original
> computer back in 1976 by the same name maxit. I think you may enjoy
> it if you want something a bit different than just another adventure
> game.
>
> Kirk
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
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