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* Physical verses and logical drive
@  Richard Villa
   ` Darragh Ó Héiligh
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From: Richard Villa @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

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Hi all,

I am new on the list and have a question.

Does it make a difference whether one loads the linux system on a second hard drive or an extended logical drive on a primary hard drive?

Richard Villa


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* Re: Physical verses and logical drive
   Physical verses and logical drive Richard Villa
@  ` Darragh Ó Héiligh
     ` Richard Villa
   ` Kirk Wood
                   ` (2 subsequent siblings)
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From: Darragh Ó Héiligh @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

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No,, it doesn't matter what method you use, the only difference is depending on the version of operating system that you are using you will be prompted to set more options when using an extended drive.

Hope that helps

Darragh
www.digytek.com 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Richard Villa 
  To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca 
  Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 10:29 PM
  Subject: Physical verses and logical drive


  Hi all,
   
  I am new on the list and have a question.
   
  Does it make a difference whether one loads the linux system on a second hard drive or an extended logical drive on a primary hard drive?
   
  Richard Villa


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* Re: Physical verses and logical drive
   ` Darragh Ó Héiligh
@    ` Richard Villa
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Richard Villa @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

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Thanks,

That's good to know.

Richard

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  From: Darragh Ó Héiligh 
  To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca 
  Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 4:37 PM
  Subject: Re: Physical verses and logical drive


  No,, it doesn't matter what method you use, the only difference is depending on the version of operating system that you are using you will be prompted to set more options when using an extended drive.

  Hope that helps

  Darragh
  www.digytek.com 
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Richard Villa 
    To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca 
    Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 10:29 PM
    Subject: Physical verses and logical drive


    Hi all,

    I am new on the list and have a question.

    Does it make a difference whether one loads the linux system on a second hard drive or an extended logical drive on a primary hard drive?

    Richard Villa


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* Re: Physical verses and logical drive
   ` Kirk Wood
@    ` Darragh Ó Héiligh
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Darragh Ó Héiligh @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

If you are using Red hat or/and Corel, you have to define the partition
sizes manually, but if you are installing on a separate hard disc, there
isn't as much to do.

I'm not too sure, but I think Mandrake can automatically configure the
partitions.

Darragh
www.digytek.com
----- Original Message -----
From: Kirk Wood <cpt.kirk@1tree.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 11:47 PM
Subject: Re: Physical verses and logical drive


> It doesn't make any difference what partition(s) you choose to use when
> installing linux. In fact, the setup program will make the correct
> partitions for you.
>
> =======
> Kirk Wood
> Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net
>
> The mind is like a parachute; it works much better when open.
> If you're too open minded, your brains will fall out.
>
>
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* Re: Physical verses and logical drive
   Physical verses and logical drive Richard Villa
   ` Darragh Ó Héiligh
@  ` Kirk Wood
     ` Darragh Ó Héiligh
   ` Kerry Hoath
   ` Janina Sajka
  3 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Kirk Wood @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

It doesn't make any difference what partition(s) you choose to use when
installing linux. In fact, the setup program will make the correct
partitions for you.

=======
Kirk Wood
Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net

The mind is like a parachute; it works much better when open.
If you're too open minded, your brains will fall out.



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* Re: Physical verses and logical drive
   Physical verses and logical drive Richard Villa
   ` Darragh Ó Héiligh
   ` Kirk Wood
@  ` Kerry Hoath
   ` Janina Sajka
  3 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Kerry Hoath @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

You can put it on a second hard drive or a logical drive
on an extended partition but you'll need a boot manager capable
of booting logical drives in the extended partiton. The standard
dos/windows MBR can not do this, it wants to boot 1 of 4
primary partitions. If you use lilo in the mbr it can
load Linux from an extended partition, but if you re-install
Windows it will wipe lilo out of the mbr so have a boot disk handy
to boot the system and rerun lilo to refresh the mbr again.

Regards, Kerry.
On Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 04:29:18PM -0500, Richard Villa wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I am new on the list and have a question.
> 
> Does it make a difference whether one loads the linux system on a second hard drive or an extended logical drive on a primary hard drive?
> 
> Richard Villa
> 

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* Re: Physical verses and logical drive
   Physical verses and logical drive Richard Villa
                   ` (2 preceding siblings ...)
   ` Kerry Hoath
@  ` Janina Sajka
     ` do i need swap Saqib Shaikh
  3 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Janina Sajka @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

Hey, Richard, welcome to the speakup list. Glad to have you up here with
us.
On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, Richard Villa wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I am new on the list and have a question.
>
> Does it make a difference whether one loads the linux system on a second hard drive or an extended logical drive on a primary hard drive?
>
> Richard Villa
>
>

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* do i need swap
   ` Janina Sajka
@    ` Saqib Shaikh
       ` Kirk Wood
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Saqib Shaikh @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

hi, just wondering whether it is necessary to have a swap partition. maybe
necessary is the wrong word since i know that it is optinal. however, if i
have 256 mb ram, will i ever need swap?
thanks, saqib




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* Re: do i need swap
     ` do i need swap Saqib Shaikh
@      ` Kirk Wood
         ` Raul A. Gallegos
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Kirk Wood @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

You don't need a swap, but I recall seeing something that indicated more
efficient use of memory if you have one. I would just setup a small swap
partition just to be sure.

=======
Kirk Wood
Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net

The mind is like a parachute; it works much better when open.
If you're too open minded, your brains will fall out.



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* Re: do i need swap
       ` Kirk Wood
@        ` Raul A. Gallegos
           ` Kirk Wood
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Raul A. Gallegos @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

Hi.  I don't remember off hand where I read this but somewhere some swap docs said that if your swap is larger than 128 megs none of the space after 128 
megs will be used anyway so if you will have a swap to not make it more than 128 megs in size to avoid wasting disk space.

On Fri, 13 Jul 2001 12:49:57 -0500 (CDT), Kirk Wood wrote:

>You don't need a swap, but I recall seeing something that indicated more
>efficient use of memory if you have one. I would just setup a small swap
>partition just to be sure.
>
>=======

--- Raul A. Gallegos http://www.asmodean.net
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Then something happened which unleashed the power of our imagination...
We learned to talk...




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* Re: do i need swap
           ` Kirk Wood
@            ` Gregory Nowak
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: Gregory Nowak @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

With that, you could very comfortably
run an isp dial-up server.
Greg


On Sun, Jul 22, 2001 at 04:47:13PM -0500, Kirk Wood wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Jul 2001, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
> > Hi.  I don't remember off hand where I read this but somewhere some swap docs said that if your swap is larger than 128 megs none of the space after 128 
> > megs will be used anyway so if you will have a swap to not make it more than 128 megs in size to avoid wasting disk space.
> 
> Hmm, well I went and started looking this all up. Linux *used* to have a
> limit of 128 MB per partition with no limit on the number of
> partitions. This however, is no longer the case. The maximum usable size
> of the swap partition now varies with architecture. For the majority of us
> (running intel platform) that size is now 2 GB. So, have fun and make
> large partitions.
> 
> Of course this also starts to beg the question if I should not save up and
> build a machine with monstrously large amounts of memory and swap size. I
> mean I can get 256 MB DIMMs for less then $100, and 15 GB hard drives for
> another $100. Thus, I could design a system with say 3/4 gigabyte of
> memory and 60 gigabytes of drive space for less then a grand. (Not that I
> have a use for such a system.)
> 
> =======
> Kirk Wood
> Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net
> 
> The mind is like a parachute; it works much better when open.
> If you're too open minded, your brains will fall out.
> 
> 
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
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* Re: do i need swap
         ` Raul A. Gallegos
@          ` Kirk Wood
             ` Gregory Nowak
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Kirk Wood @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

On Sun, 22 Jul 2001, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
> Hi.  I don't remember off hand where I read this but somewhere some swap docs said that if your swap is larger than 128 megs none of the space after 128 
> megs will be used anyway so if you will have a swap to not make it more than 128 megs in size to avoid wasting disk space.

Hmm, well I went and started looking this all up. Linux *used* to have a
limit of 128 MB per partition with no limit on the number of
partitions. This however, is no longer the case. The maximum usable size
of the swap partition now varies with architecture. For the majority of us
(running intel platform) that size is now 2 GB. So, have fun and make
large partitions.

Of course this also starts to beg the question if I should not save up and
build a machine with monstrously large amounts of memory and swap size. I
mean I can get 256 MB DIMMs for less then $100, and 15 GB hard drives for
another $100. Thus, I could design a system with say 3/4 gigabyte of
memory and 60 gigabytes of drive space for less then a grand. (Not that I
have a use for such a system.)

=======
Kirk Wood
Cpt.Kirk@1tree.net

The mind is like a parachute; it works much better when open.
If you're too open minded, your brains will fall out.



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