* Re: another Re: writing spk howto (?) (again)
@ David Bruzos
` Sean McMahon
0 siblings, 1 reply; 2+ messages in thread
From: David Bruzos @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
I am sending this one again, because of the same reason as the other one...
It was too large the first time...
> Hello again:
> I have read everyone's posts and I think that everyone has and makes very
> valid points. I don't plan to start writing the howto until I gather some
> more info and test some things my self.
>
> Yes, writing technical docs is hard and time consuming, but I will give it
> a try... I think it will be alright.
>
> I have been thinking about the document and how it should be focused. I
> like the distribution specific approach while maintaining enough
> generality to be useful in other distributions. For example, writing the
> howto for FC2 and including some necessary information for other distros,
> but not cluttering the document with references to too many unrelated
> topics. The reason for my approach is that I am a newbie (as I said
> before) and I have fresh in my mind all the many frustrating hours
> searching through tons of general documentation that I could not
> understand nor use. So, I want to safe the next newbie some time and give
> them a set of simple instructions that I know will work for sure. Advance
> users can read the FC2 instructions and apply them to whatever they use,
> but beginners can't go the other way.
>
> Another problem is that I don't have experience with other distributions,
> so writing something about them would be pure speculation. What can be
> done is generate a set of documents that would cover the main distros, but
> that would require someone other than me to work on them. Again, I think
> the distro centric approach with the necessary additional info about other
> distros is probably the best compromise between generality and
> practicality...
>
> Thank everyone so much for responding so wonderfully to my post yesterday.
> If I don't respond to everyone's posts, I am sorry, but I would be saying
> the same stuff over and over... I read every post though, so everyone's
> help is great.
>
> Thomas, I will be checking out your Speakup howto and hopefully
> contributing the software speech to it...
> Oh, Janina's FC2 installation howto is great and yes, maybe the URL should
> be a little more user friendly!
>
> David
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
> To: <david@bruzos.org>; "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."
> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 8:18 AM
> Subject: Re: writing spk howto (?)
>
>
>> Absolutely, you should do a Speakup with Software Speech HOWTO. The
>> community needs one desparately, and there aren't enough of us document
>> writers to go around.
>>
>> In all honesty, I must tell you that writing a clear, concise, and
>> complete HOWTO is hard work. I don't say this to discourage you, but to
>> point out that there's a reason why more HOWTOs aren't just out there to
>> be plucked off the net. My advice is to start simple, and Speakup With
>> Software Speech sounds to me like about the right task.
>>
>> I will tell you that I attempted to write a HOWTO for Speakup on Linux
>> together with a professional tech writer from IBM. When the tech writer
>> left IBM this project stalled--after over 6 months of work between us.
>> That's when I took the pieces that I actually knew something about and
>> created the Installation HOWTO for the Speakup Modified Fedora Core.
>>
>> Which reminds me, writing a HOWTO is only part of the job. The rest of
>> the job is maintaining the HOWTO which means making new versions when
>> new facts change the advice people need to have.
>>
>>
>>
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* Re: another Re: writing spk howto (?) (again)
another Re: writing spk howto (?) (again) David Bruzos
@ ` Sean McMahon
0 siblings, 0 replies; 2+ messages in thread
From: Sean McMahon @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
>From the markings, > symbols, I can't tell where your message is and which part
you're quoting. It looks like your part of this message isn't showing up. btw,
this message did get through.
Sean
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Bruzos" <david@bruzos.org>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 10:15 AM
Subject: Re: another Re: writing spk howto (?) (again)
> I am sending this one again, because of the same reason as the other one...
> It was too large the first time...
>
>
> > Hello again:
> > I have read everyone's posts and I think that everyone has and makes very
> > valid points. I don't plan to start writing the howto until I gather some
> > more info and test some things my self.
> >
> > Yes, writing technical docs is hard and time consuming, but I will give it
> > a try... I think it will be alright.
> >
> > I have been thinking about the document and how it should be focused. I
> > like the distribution specific approach while maintaining enough
> > generality to be useful in other distributions. For example, writing the
> > howto for FC2 and including some necessary information for other distros,
> > but not cluttering the document with references to too many unrelated
> > topics. The reason for my approach is that I am a newbie (as I said
> > before) and I have fresh in my mind all the many frustrating hours
> > searching through tons of general documentation that I could not
> > understand nor use. So, I want to safe the next newbie some time and give
> > them a set of simple instructions that I know will work for sure. Advance
> > users can read the FC2 instructions and apply them to whatever they use,
> > but beginners can't go the other way.
> >
> > Another problem is that I don't have experience with other distributions,
> > so writing something about them would be pure speculation. What can be
> > done is generate a set of documents that would cover the main distros, but
> > that would require someone other than me to work on them. Again, I think
> > the distro centric approach with the necessary additional info about other
> > distros is probably the best compromise between generality and
> > practicality...
> >
> > Thank everyone so much for responding so wonderfully to my post yesterday.
> > If I don't respond to everyone's posts, I am sorry, but I would be saying
> > the same stuff over and over... I read every post though, so everyone's
> > help is great.
> >
> > Thomas, I will be checking out your Speakup howto and hopefully
> > contributing the software speech to it...
> > Oh, Janina's FC2 installation howto is great and yes, maybe the URL should
> > be a little more user friendly!
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
> > To: <david@bruzos.org>; "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."
> > <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 2004 8:18 AM
> > Subject: Re: writing spk howto (?)
> >
> >
> >> Absolutely, you should do a Speakup with Software Speech HOWTO. The
> >> community needs one desparately, and there aren't enough of us document
> >> writers to go around.
> >>
> >> In all honesty, I must tell you that writing a clear, concise, and
> >> complete HOWTO is hard work. I don't say this to discourage you, but to
> >> point out that there's a reason why more HOWTOs aren't just out there to
> >> be plucked off the net. My advice is to start simple, and Speakup With
> >> Software Speech sounds to me like about the right task.
> >>
> >> I will tell you that I attempted to write a HOWTO for Speakup on Linux
> >> together with a professional tech writer from IBM. When the tech writer
> >> left IBM this project stalled--after over 6 months of work between us.
> >> That's when I took the pieces that I actually knew something about and
> >> created the Installation HOWTO for the Speakup Modified Fedora Core.
> >>
> >> Which reminds me, writing a HOWTO is only part of the job. The rest of
> >> the job is maintaining the HOWTO which means making new versions when
> >> new facts change the advice people need to have.
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
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