news again

news again

[Alex Snow]

Hi All.
II found a public nntp server I can use to get a large number of groups. I
have a problem however. I took one look at in's configs and it seemed a
little complicated. is there any other news transports that are a little
easier to setup?

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Re: news again

[Doug]

Alex,

Are you sure you need a news feed? The news transports like
INN and Cnews are for running your own news server. This
means that you are becoming a new feed, spooling ALL news
(or what you have configured) from another news server.
Perhaps you don't need to bother with setting up INN or
equivalent. You might also want to think about the band
width (and disk space) consumed in doing so. I think you
can read news from another public NNTP server without
having to set up INN. All you need is a news client. You
point the client to that public server and download only
the stuff you want to read. This is what most people do.
Most people don't set up their own news server for just
one person. You should, for example, be able to fire up
netscape, edit the preferences for news, and configure
that public (external) news server as the default news
server. Try running just a news client (reader) and
point it to the free NNTP server.

   -- Doug

Re: news again

[Alex Snow]

Ok I'll try that. It's just that the news howto seemed to make seem like
you needed to install a transport and spool it all locally.
So what's a good news client? I don't want to use pine for one since I
don't like it a lot.

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On Mon, 16 Jun 2003, Doug wrote:

> Alex,
>
> Are you sure you need a news feed? The news transports like
> INN and Cnews are for running your own news server. This
> means that you are becoming a new feed, spooling ALL news
> (or what you have configured) from another news server.
> Perhaps you don't need to bother with setting up INN or
> equivalent. You might also want to think about the band
> width (and disk space) consumed in doing so. I think you
> can read news from another public NNTP server without
> having to set up INN. All you need is a news client. You
> point the client to that public server and download only
> the stuff you want to read. This is what most people do.
> Most people don't set up their own news server for just
> one person. You should, for example, be able to fire up
> netscape, edit the preferences for news, and configure
> that public (external) news server as the default news
> server. Try running just a news client (reader) and
> point it to the free NNTP server.
>
>    -- Doug
>
>
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Re: news again

[Doug]

Most of the news howto explains setting up a whole
local news service (NNTP server).

Trn looks decent:
http://trn.sourceforge.net/

Check these out:
http://www.indiana.edu/~ucspubs/b087/z087.html
http://support.uchicago.edu/docs/unix/trn/

Binaries of trn are available for slackware and redhat
(and probably every other major linux distro).

But as usual there are many choices
http://www.newsreaders.com/unix/clients.html
http://www.helpdesk.umd.edu/systems/wam/connectivity/labs/1216/

Each reader should allow you to specify the nntp
server somewhere in its config, look for that and
set it up for the public nntp server that you found.

   -- Doug

Re: news again

[Alex Snow]

Yup I have trn installed. It looks cool. I'll have to rtfm on it.

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On Mon, 16 Jun 2003, Doug wrote:

> Most of the news howto explains setting up a whole
> local news service (NNTP server).
>
> Trn looks decent:
> http://trn.sourceforge.net/
>
> Check these out:
> http://www.indiana.edu/~ucspubs/b087/z087.html
> http://support.uchicago.edu/docs/unix/trn/
>
> Binaries of trn are available for slackware and redhat
> (and probably every other major linux distro).
>
> But as usual there are many choices
> http://www.newsreaders.com/unix/clients.html
> http://www.helpdesk.umd.edu/systems/wam/connectivity/labs/1216/
>
> Each reader should allow you to specify the nntp
> server somewhere in its config, look for that and
> set it up for the public nntp server that you found.
>
>    -- Doug
>
>
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Re: news again

[Doug]

Alex,

 > I have trn installed.

If you wish to manually configure your Unix newsreader to get
its news from a server other than the default system server,
you'll need to update your NNTPSERVER environment variable.
To do this, type at the Unix prompt:

setenv NNTPSERVER news-server

Clipped from
http://www.helpdesk.umd.edu/systems/wam/connectivity/labs/1216/

You'll have to check if trn reads that environment variable.
I have seen other things like /etc/nntpserver and rc files.

   -- Doug

Re: news again

[Thomas D. Ward]

Hi, use slrn. It comes with Red Hat and I think there is a debian package.
Anyway, it is a nice news client.

----- Original Message -----
From: Alex Snow <alex_snow@gmx.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: news again


> Ok I'll try that. It's just that the news howto seemed to make seem like
> you needed to install a transport and spool it all locally.
> So what's a good news client? I don't want to use pine for one since I
> don't like it a lot.
>
> --
> A message from the system administrator: "I've upped my priority, now up
yours!"
> On Mon, 16 Jun 2003, Doug wrote:
>
> > Alex,
> >
> > Are you sure you need a news feed? The news transports like
> > INN and Cnews are for running your own news server. This
> > means that you are becoming a new feed, spooling ALL news
> > (or what you have configured) from another news server.
> > Perhaps you don't need to bother with setting up INN or
> > equivalent. You might also want to think about the band
> > width (and disk space) consumed in doing so. I think you
> > can read news from another public NNTP server without
> > having to set up INN. All you need is a news client. You
> > point the client to that public server and download only
> > the stuff you want to read. This is what most people do.
> > Most people don't set up their own news server for just
> > one person. You should, for example, be able to fire up
> > netscape, edit the preferences for news, and configure
> > that public (external) news server as the default news
> > server. Try running just a news client (reader) and
> > point it to the free NNTP server.
> >
> >    -- Doug
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
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Re: news again

[jude dashiell]

You could try trn, but edit /etc/nntpserver first.  You need to put your
news feed's address in that file.

Re: news again

[Toby Fisher]

On Mon, 16 Jun 2003, Alex Snow wrote:

> Hi All.
> II found a public nntp server I can use to get a large number of groups. I
> have a problem however. I took one look at in's configs and it seemed a
> little complicated. is there any other news transports that are a little
> easier to setup?

As many have suggested, you could just use an nntp client.

The other alternative is to install Leafnode, if you really want a local
spool, as it is an nntp proxy and will only download those groups that you
actually read.


HTH

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