Screen and Speakup-1.0

Screen and Speakup-1.0

[Dave Hunt]

Hi all,

I'm running Speakup 1.0 in kernel version 2.4.9-13, with a Doubletalk LT 
synthesizer.

I've noticed that running the Screen windowing thing causes lag in speech, 
especially in Pine.  Reading in Lynx is lagged to a lesser extent.  ANy 
idea what's going on here?

-Dave

Re: Screen and Speakup-1.0

[Chris Peterson]

Why would you run screen from the console?  Why not just login more than
once?

Chris



----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Hunt" <wx1g@mediaone.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 3:46 PM
Subject: Screen and Speakup-1.0


> Hi all,
>
> I'm running Speakup 1.0 in kernel version 2.4.9-13, with a Doubletalk LT
> synthesizer.
>
> I've noticed that running the Screen windowing thing causes lag in speech,
> especially in Pine.  Reading in Lynx is lagged to a lesser extent.  ANy
> idea what's going on here?
>
> -Dave
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>

Re: Screen and Speakup-1.0

[Kerry Hoath]

Because screen provides console locking code;
you can detatch a screen and log out;
screens can be re-attached from another machine or console;
screen is multi-user; more than one person can use a screen session.
Screen's termcap/terminfo is more customizable than the raw console allowing status lines etc.
Swap isn't wasted on getty processes running on termianls that are unused.
If you look at top you will probably see 8 getty processes running on 8 consoles
and although there is a lot of shared code the remainder ends up in swap sooner or later
if they remain unused. Also; screen doesn't use
a pseudo tty until it is required; and hence
saves on file descriptor usage. The default global limit
is 4096
descripters with 1024 per process.

Regards, Kerry.
On Sat, Feb 02, 2002 at 04:03:34PM -0600, Chris Peterson wrote:
> Why would you run screen from the console?  Why not just login more than
> once?
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Hunt" <wx1g@mediaone.net>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 3:46 PM
> Subject: Screen and Speakup-1.0
> 
> 
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I'm running Speakup 1.0 in kernel version 2.4.9-13, with a Doubletalk LT
> > synthesizer.
> >
> > I've noticed that running the Screen windowing thing causes lag in speech,
> > especially in Pine.  Reading in Lynx is lagged to a lesser extent.  ANy
> > idea what's going on here?
> >
> > -Dave
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

-- 
Kerry Hoath:  kerry@gotss.net kerry@gotss.eu.org or  kerry@gotss.spice.net.au

SuSE Distribution

[Ron Marriage]

Having read that SuSE comes with a Speakup kernel, I
searched the Suse US site and cannot find any mention of
Speakup.  
Did I miss it?
Is this a mistake and it doesn't come with SuSE.
Do I still have to download and install then recompile the
Suse kernel also?

Thanks
Ron
-- 
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Email  mailto:marriage@seidata.com
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Re: Screen and Speakup-1.0

[Chris Peterson]

Okay, good info to know.

Thanks,
Chris



----- Original Message -----
From: "Kerry Hoath" <kerry@gotss.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: Screen and Speakup-1.0


> Because screen provides console locking code;
> you can detatch a screen and log out;
> screens can be re-attached from another machine or console;
> screen is multi-user; more than one person can use a screen session.
> Screen's termcap/terminfo is more customizable than the raw console
allowing status lines etc.
> Swap isn't wasted on getty processes running on termianls that are unused.
> If you look at top you will probably see 8 getty processes running on 8
consoles
> and although there is a lot of shared code the remainder ends up in swap
sooner or later
> if they remain unused. Also; screen doesn't use
> a pseudo tty until it is required; and hence
> saves on file descriptor usage. The default global limit
> is 4096
> descripters with 1024 per process.
>
> Regards, Kerry.
> On Sat, Feb 02, 2002 at 04:03:34PM -0600, Chris Peterson wrote:
> > Why would you run screen from the console?  Why not just login more than
> > once?
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dave Hunt" <wx1g@mediaone.net>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 3:46 PM
> > Subject: Screen and Speakup-1.0
> >
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I'm running Speakup 1.0 in kernel version 2.4.9-13, with a Doubletalk
LT
> > > synthesizer.
> > >
> > > I've noticed that running the Screen windowing thing causes lag in
speech,
> > > especially in Pine.  Reading in Lynx is lagged to a lesser extent.
ANy
> > > idea what's going on here?
> > >
> > > -Dave
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
> --
> Kerry Hoath:  kerry@gotss.net kerry@gotss.eu.org or
kerry@gotss.spice.net.au
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>

Re: SuSE Distribution

[Thomas Ward]

Hi, to my knolege there is not a SUSE distribution with Speakup installed.
Slackware is the only official one I know of, and then of course on the
speakup ftp site you can get Debian or Red Hat iso files with Speakup in
them.


----- Original Message -----
From: Ron Marriage <marriage@seidata.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 11:03 PM
Subject: SuSE Distribution


> Having read that SuSE comes with a Speakup kernel, I
> searched the Suse US site and cannot find any mention of
> Speakup.
> Did I miss it?
> Is this a mistake and it doesn't come with SuSE.
> Do I still have to download and install then recompile the
> Suse kernel also?
>
> Thanks
> Ron
> --
> Ron Marriage
> Homepage http://www.seidata.com/~marriage/
> Email  mailto:marriage@seidata.com
> Linux User Group http://www.seidata.com/~seilug/
> Blind Links  http://www.seidata.com/~marriage/rblind.html
>
> Win door prizes!  Meet old and new friends!  See the latest
> technology and gadgets for your everyday living!  Learn how
> the NFB is helping to knock down barriers to make your life
> better! All this and more at the 2002 NFB National
> Convention
> July 3 - 9 -- for details go to: http://www.nfbk.org
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

Re: SuSE Distribution

[Cheryl Homiak]

It is my understanding that suse has incorporated support for braille
displays, but not for speakup or any other speech screen reader. However,
I believe there is a suse-blinux email list that you can sign up for on
the suse website if you wanted to check this information.

-- 
				Cheryl

Re: SuSE Distribution

[Gregory Nowak]

Slackware is the distro that comes with the speakup kernel, not suse.
Greg


On Sat, Feb 02, 2002 at 11:03:59PM -0500, Ron Marriage wrote:
> Having read that SuSE comes with a Speakup kernel, I
> searched the Suse US site and cannot find any mention of
> Speakup.  
> Did I miss it?
> Is this a mistake and it doesn't come with SuSE.
> Do I still have to download and install then recompile the
> Suse kernel also?
> 
> Thanks
> Ron
> -- 
> Ron Marriage
> Homepage http://www.seidata.com/~marriage/
> Email  mailto:marriage@seidata.com
> Linux User Group http://www.seidata.com/~seilug/
> Blind Links  http://www.seidata.com/~marriage/rblind.html
> 
> Win door prizes!  Meet old and new friends!  See the latest
> technology and gadgets for your everyday living!  Learn how 
> the NFB is helping to knock down barriers to make your life 
> better! All this and more at the 2002 NFB National
> Convention 
> July 3 - 9 -- for details go to: http://www.nfbk.org
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: SuSE Distribution

[Ron Marriage]

You are correct, I checked it out and the SuSe distribution
does provide Blinux a braille device driver.  It does have
audio output, but they say without the braille device it is
not any advantage.

Thanks
Ron



Cheryl Homiak wrote:
> 
> It is my understanding that suse has incorporated support for braille
> displays, but not for speakup or any other speech screen reader. However,
> I believe there is a suse-blinux email list that you can sign up for on
> the suse website if you wanted to check this information.
> 
> --
>                                 Cheryl
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

-- 
Ron Marriage
Homepage http://www.seidata.com/~marriage/
Email  mailto:marriage@seidata.com
Linux User Group http://www.seidata.com/~seilug/
Blind Links  http://www.seidata.com/~marriage/rblind.html

Win door prizes!  Meet old and new friends!  See the latest
technology and gadgets for your everyday living!  Learn how 
the NFB is helping to knock down barriers to make your life 
better! All this and more at the 2002 NFB National
Convention 
July 3 - 9 -- for details go to: http://www.nfbk.org