RawWrite for windows

RawWrite for windows

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Re: RawWrite for windows

[Keith H.]

Thanks again for the tips on rawrite.  I think I have finally got the files
to transfer to a floppy.

It doesn't seem to boot up with speech though.  I get to a welcome to RedHat
screen and when you hit enter to continue, the program stops and I'm back at
a DOS prompt.  I reacquired the dtlkb.bin and updat.img from the SpeakUp
site. I haven't had time to do the transfer of the boot images yet. My mom
spent the weekend at the hospital, and is still there.

One thing I noticed, after I resorted to using the boot flopy that came with
RedHat, everything seemed fine until I got to the screen that wanted a mount
point.  I think there is some reference in Appendix G of the Install Manual.
Which I will read eventually.  In a real quick nutshell, can anyone shine
any light on that or what is needed on that field?

from
Keith H.

Re: RawWrite for windows

[Janina Sajka]

By "screen that wanted the mount point" do you mean the partitioning 
part of the installation? It's probably the trickiest part of the 
installation especially for someone unfamiliar with linux and linux 
terminology. Unfortunately, the Redhat partitioning tool, diskdruid, is 
not as speech friendly as it probably should be, thus compounding the 
dificulty for a new user.

On the positive side, if you're happy letting the installation program 
make decisions for you (we might call this the Microsoft approach), you 
can select "automatic" and things will be done as the routines determine. 

If, however, you want to make your own partitioning decisions, you will 
need to indicate at least the "slash" mount point -- / -- in order to 
proceed. You are strongly advised to spend some time becoming familiar 
with partitioning. The Redhat installation guide is very good on this--and 
it includes advice on keystrokes, not just mouse clicks.

Essentially, there are two parts to the diskdruid main screen. From the 
speech users perspective, these are reached sequentially by tab/alt-tab. 
Actually, these two parts consist of a list of existing partitions as 
defined so far, and a sequence of action buttons one can select by 
pressing enter as one tabs around. These buttons have names like "new," 
"edit," "delete," etc. When you're on these buttons, all you can do is 
press enter to initiate that particular activity, or tab to the next, or 
alt-tab to the previous button. Pressing enter brings up a new screen--a 
subsidiary screen--which guides one through the action. More about that in 
a moment.

So, how do you know when you've tab'd to the list of defined partitions? 
Speakup won't say anything in particular to tell you you've reached that 
list. Instead, here's how you can know. As you tab, you eventually come to 
a button that says "back." When you hear "back" for the first time, tab 
once more. You'll hear speakup say "back" again. You are now on the list 
and can use down arrow (you'll always start at the top of the list) and 
then up arrow to move u through this list. Be careful to use speakup's 
"read current line" key, the number 8 key on the numeric keypad, to 
ascertain that you're actually on the partition you mean to be on before 
editing or deleting it.

Now for a brief word on the subsidiary screens. Some are quite simple, 
others are not. The edit screen, for example, will first give an edit 
field where the mount point for this partition is to be specified. This is 
where you type '/', or '/usr', or '/home', my personal list of the three 
critical partitions to specify separately--but that's yet another story. 
The thing to know is that you use tab and alt-tab in these screens to work 
your way through the various options. Use the screen review features of 
speakup often to understand what's happening. The #8 key is your friend. 
And, if you explore with other keys, remember that the enter key on the 
numeric keypad will return the speakup cursor to the real cursor--the 
place you actually are in this form. Check boxes, by the way, are selected 
and unselected using the spacebar. You'll know you're on a check box 
because you'll hear [*] when that checkbox is selected, and [ ] when it 
isn't.

Hope this helps.


 On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Keith H. wrote:

> Thanks again for the tips on rawrite.  I think I have finally got the files
> to transfer to a floppy.
> 
> It doesn't seem to boot up with speech though.  I get to a welcome to RedHat
> screen and when you hit enter to continue, the program stops and I'm back at
> a DOS prompt.  I reacquired the dtlkb.bin and updat.img from the SpeakUp
> site. I haven't had time to do the transfer of the boot images yet. My mom
> spent the weekend at the hospital, and is still there.
> 
> One thing I noticed, after I resorted to using the boot flopy that came with
> RedHat, everything seemed fine until I got to the screen that wanted a mount
> point.  I think there is some reference in Appendix G of the Install Manual.
> Which I will read eventually.  In a real quick nutshell, can anyone shine
> any light on that or what is needed on that field?
> 
> from
> Keith H.
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

-- 
	
				Janina Sajka, Director
				Technology Research and Development
				Governmental Relations Group
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

Email: janina@afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175

Chair, Accessibility SIG
Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF)
http://www.openebook.org

Mount Points was, Re: RawWrite for windows

[Keith H.]

I think I'm past the rawrite thing now, hence the subject change.

I have a partition that windows calles d: and on the setup screen shows up
as hda2. So far I understand that fine. That is where I would like to
install Linux.

As far as the mount point, if I understand you, all I need to do is type  a
/ (forward slash), in the field for my root directory?

Should I use the 'new' button to divide that partition up for the other
partitions like the swap and others?  Before you answer though, I should
probably just read the Install guide and your HowTo. Especially if they are
covered in there.

While my mom is at the hospital, I won't have much time to play around with
it.  I'll keep your messages though so I can read through your input when I
can get to it.

thanks
from
Keith H.

Dog Quote:
6. "If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite
you; that is the principal difference between a dog and a man." --Mark Twain

Re: Mount Points was, Re: RawWrite for windows

[Janina Sajka]

Hi, Keith:

You've got it essentially correct, except that you should first delete 
your existing /dev/hda2, alias D:>. At that point it becomes free space 
that you can allocate as / and let the installer figure out from there, or 
allocate by hand.

Do read the installation docs, though, including the Appendix dealing with 
partitioning. It's a good thing to understand at least to the level of a 
bit beyond the basic.

And, ask for help if you don't understand some part of it. That will stand 
you in good stead when you start to install.

 On Mon, 18 Feb 2002, Keith H. wrote:

> I think I'm past the rawrite thing now, hence the subject change.
> 
> I have a partition that windows calles d: and on the setup screen shows up
> as hda2. So far I understand that fine. That is where I would like to
> install Linux.
> 
> As far as the mount point, if I understand you, all I need to do is type  a
> / (forward slash), in the field for my root directory?
> 
> Should I use the 'new' button to divide that partition up for the other
> partitions like the swap and others?  Before you answer though, I should
> probably just read the Install guide and your HowTo. Especially if they are
> covered in there.
> 
> While my mom is at the hospital, I won't have much time to play around with
> it.  I'll keep your messages though so I can read through your input when I
> can get to it.
> 
> thanks
> from
> Keith H.
> 
> Dog Quote:
> 6. "If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite
> you; that is the principal difference between a dog and a man." --Mark Twain
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

-- 
	
				Janina Sajka, Director
				Technology Research and Development
				Governmental Relations Group
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

Email: janina@afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175

Chair, Accessibility SIG
Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF)
http://www.openebook.org