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* N V D A not working in Windows 98SE
@  Radical NetSurfer
   ` Farhan
   ` Glenn at home
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Radical NetSurfer @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.; +Cc: RadSurfer

Anyone here familiar with NVDA at all?

I downloaded this open source so-called screen reader,
heavily built around Python 2.4,
and nothing much happens.

It just so happens I have Python 2.3, and 2.4, and
even
2.5 all installed on one of my Windows 98SE boxes.
I have configured the Autoexec.bat and the File
Associations to specifically see 2.4, since that is
what
NVDA apparently prefers.

Test routines I have prove that Python 2.4 is indeed
called and working 100%.

I made certain to enable the SAPI4 setting in the
NVDA INI file;
When I click on the NVDA.exe program, all I hear is
"NVDA Started Bang!"
at least that is what it sounds like to me.

I do not understand how to get Windows 98SE to respond
to anything under NDVA. 
I went to the trouble of even installing the other
Python packages and still nothing is happening,
the PyAA, PyTTS, Py24Com, all of it, is installed.

I see no way to change the Voice or any of the other
attributes NVDA is using from SAPI4.

So if you know how to get this running on Windows 98SE
please let me know, thanks.

//Rich//



 
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* Re: N V D A not working in Windows 98SE
   N V D A not working in Windows 98SE Radical NetSurfer
@  ` Farhan
   ` Glenn at home
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Farhan @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

I have nvda working just fine, only i use sapi five, but sapi four should work just as well.
That's if you have any sapi4 speech engines installed.
I just downloaded the compiled zipfile, I didn't have to mess with any python packages.
This is on an Windows enabled xp system, Amd 3500 with one gig of ram.
On 11/13/2006 at 21:31 Radical NetSurfer said
Anyone here familiar with NVDA at all?

I downloaded this open source so-called screen reader,
heavily built around Python 2.4,
and nothing much happens.

It just so happens I have Python 2.3, and 2.4, and
even
2.5 all installed on one of my Windows 98SE boxes.
I have configured the Autoexec.bat and the File
Associations to specifically see 2.4, since that is
what
NVDA apparently prefers.

Test routines I have prove that Python 2.4 is indeed
called and working 100%.

I made certain to enable the SAPI4 setting in the
NVDA INI file;
When I click on the NVDA.exe program, all I hear is
"NVDA Started Bang!"
at least that is what it sounds like to me.

I do not understand how to get Windows 98SE to respond
to anything under NDVA. 
I went to the trouble of even installing the other
Python packages and still nothing is happening,
the PyAA, PyTTS, Py24Com, all of it, is installed.

I see no way to change the Voice or any of the other
attributes NVDA is using from SAPI4.

So if you know how to get this running on Windows 98SE
please let me know, thanks.

//Rich//



 
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* Re: N V D A not working in Windows 98SE
   N V D A not working in Windows 98SE Radical NetSurfer
   ` Farhan
@  ` Glenn at home
     ` Governor Staten
                     ` (2 more replies)
  1 sibling, 3 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Glenn at home @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

If you are looking for a free screenreader for your windows box, try the 
Thunder screenreader at:
http://www.screenreader.net/
HTH.
Glenn

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Radical NetSurfer" <radsurfer@yahoo.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Cc: <RadSurfer@yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 9:24 PM
Subject: N V D A not working in Windows 98SE


Anyone here familiar with NVDA at all?

I downloaded this open source so-called screen reader,
heavily built around Python 2.4,
and nothing much happens.

It just so happens I have Python 2.3, and 2.4, and
even
2.5 all installed on one of my Windows 98SE boxes.
I have configured the Autoexec.bat and the File
Associations to specifically see 2.4, since that is
what
NVDA apparently prefers.

Test routines I have prove that Python 2.4 is indeed
called and working 100%.

I made certain to enable the SAPI4 setting in the
NVDA INI file;
When I click on the NVDA.exe program, all I hear is
"NVDA Started Bang!"
at least that is what it sounds like to me.

I do not understand how to get Windows 98SE to respond
to anything under NDVA.
I went to the trouble of even installing the other
Python packages and still nothing is happening,
the PyAA, PyTTS, Py24Com, all of it, is installed.

I see no way to change the Voice or any of the other
attributes NVDA is using from SAPI4.

So if you know how to get this running on Windows 98SE
please let me know, thanks.

//Rich//




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* Re: N V D A not working in Windows 98SE
   ` Glenn at home
@    ` Governor Staten
     ` Samuel Thibault
     ` Chris Hofstader
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Governor Staten @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Glenn at home, Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

Glenn at home wrote:
> If you are looking for a free screenreader for your windows box, try the 
> Thunder screenreader at:
> http://www.screenreader.net/
> HTH.
> Glenn
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Radical NetSurfer" <radsurfer@yahoo.com>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Cc: <RadSurfer@yahoo.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 9:24 PM
> Subject: N V D A not working in Windows 98SE
>
>
> Anyone here familiar with NVDA at all?
>
> I downloaded this open source so-called screen reader,
> heavily built around Python 2.4,
> and nothing much happens.
>
> It just so happens I have Python 2.3, and 2.4, and
> even
> 2.5 all installed on one of my Windows 98SE boxes.
> I have configured the Autoexec.bat and the File
> Associations to specifically see 2.4, since that is
> what
> NVDA apparently prefers.
>
> Test routines I have prove that Python 2.4 is indeed
> called and working 100%.
>
> I made certain to enable the SAPI4 setting in the
> NVDA INI file;
> When I click on the NVDA.exe program, all I hear is
> "NVDA Started Bang!"
> at least that is what it sounds like to me.
>
> I do not understand how to get Windows 98SE to respond
> to anything under NDVA.
> I went to the trouble of even installing the other
> Python packages and still nothing is happening,
> the PyAA, PyTTS, Py24Com, all of it, is installed.
>
> I see no way to change the Voice or any of the other
> attributes NVDA is using from SAPI4.
>
> So if you know how to get this running on Windows 98SE
> please let me know, thanks.
>
> //Rich//
>
>
>
>
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>
>   
I don't think that NVDA works on 98 at all. I believe he only speaks of 
it working well on xp and he's not sure of 2000.


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* Re: N V D A not working in Windows 98SE
   ` Glenn at home
     ` Governor Staten
@    ` Samuel Thibault
       ` Chris Hofstader
     ` Chris Hofstader
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Samuel Thibault @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Glenn at home, Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

Hi,

Glenn at home, le Mon 13 Nov 2006 21:39:44 -0600, a écrit :
> If you are looking for a free screenreader for your windows box, try the 
> Thunder screenreader at:
> http://www.screenreader.net/

Please note that this is not "free" as in "free (libre) software", but
only for $0.  They are considering to release scripts in Open Source
though (but that may mean that you only have the right to see the
source, not to modify/redistribute/...).

Samuel


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* RE: N V D A not working in Windows 98SE
   ` Glenn at home
     ` Governor Staten
     ` Samuel Thibault
@    ` Chris Hofstader
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Chris Hofstader @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 'Glenn at home',
	'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'

Thunder is not free, it is without cost.  Free is a difficult word in our
language as it is used both to mean "gratis" and "without oppression."
"Free software" requires it to be open source and without restriction on
redistribution, Thunder does not include source and has a really strange
license. 


NVDA is a "free" screen reader both in terms of cost and liberty.  Free, as
in freedom, with a lower case f.

Enjoy,
cdh
-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Glenn at home
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 10:40 PM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: N V D A not working in Windows 98SE

If you are looking for a free screenreader for your windows box, try the 
Thunder screenreader at:
http://www.screenreader.net/
HTH.
Glenn

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Radical NetSurfer" <radsurfer@yahoo.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Cc: <RadSurfer@yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 9:24 PM
Subject: N V D A not working in Windows 98SE


Anyone here familiar with NVDA at all?

I downloaded this open source so-called screen reader,
heavily built around Python 2.4,
and nothing much happens.

It just so happens I have Python 2.3, and 2.4, and
even
2.5 all installed on one of my Windows 98SE boxes.
I have configured the Autoexec.bat and the File
Associations to specifically see 2.4, since that is
what
NVDA apparently prefers.

Test routines I have prove that Python 2.4 is indeed
called and working 100%.

I made certain to enable the SAPI4 setting in the
NVDA INI file;
When I click on the NVDA.exe program, all I hear is
"NVDA Started Bang!"
at least that is what it sounds like to me.

I do not understand how to get Windows 98SE to respond
to anything under NDVA.
I went to the trouble of even installing the other
Python packages and still nothing is happening,
the PyAA, PyTTS, Py24Com, all of it, is installed.

I see no way to change the Voice or any of the other
attributes NVDA is using from SAPI4.

So if you know how to get this running on Windows 98SE
please let me know, thanks.

//Rich//




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* RE: N V D A not working in Windows 98SE
     ` Samuel Thibault
@      ` Chris Hofstader
         ` Samuel Thibault
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Chris Hofstader @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'

If releasing the source to scripts makes something "free, as in freedom with
a lower case f," then JAWS is the most free screen reader ever as tens of
thousands of lines of script code is delivered in a manner which anyone can
modify, redistribute and enjoy to their heart's content.  So, don't let open
source scripts lead one to believe that libertad has been achieved. 

cdh

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Samuel Thibault
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 3:52 AM
To: Glenn at home; Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: N V D A not working in Windows 98SE

Hi,

Glenn at home, le Mon 13 Nov 2006 21:39:44 -0600, a écrit :
> If you are looking for a free screenreader for your windows box, try the 
> Thunder screenreader at:
> http://www.screenreader.net/

Please note that this is not "free" as in "free (libre) software", but
only for $0.  They are considering to release scripts in Open Source
though (but that may mean that you only have the right to see the
source, not to modify/redistribute/...).

Samuel

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* Re: N V D A not working in Windows 98SE
       ` Chris Hofstader
@        ` Samuel Thibault
           ` Chris Hofstader
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Samuel Thibault @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

Chris Hofstader, le Tue 14 Nov 2006 06:14:11 -0500, a écrit :
> If releasing the source to scripts makes something "free, as in freedom with
> a lower case f," then JAWS is the most free screen reader ever as tens of
> thousands of lines of script code is delivered in a manner which anyone can
> modify, redistribute and enjoy to their heart's content.

The scripts are free, yes.  But you can't enhance JAWS itself.

Samuel


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* RE: N V D A not working in Windows 98SE
         ` Samuel Thibault
@          ` Chris Hofstader
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Chris Hofstader @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'

That was my point exactly.  I was comparing JAWS to Thunder, a closed, no
cost screen reader.  I thought one might detect the irony in the phrase,
free, as in freedom with a lower case f."  

cdh 

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Samuel Thibault
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 6:22 AM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: N V D A not working in Windows 98SE

Chris Hofstader, le Tue 14 Nov 2006 06:14:11 -0500, a écrit :
> If releasing the source to scripts makes something "free, as in freedom
with
> a lower case f," then JAWS is the most free screen reader ever as tens of
> thousands of lines of script code is delivered in a manner which anyone
can
> modify, redistribute and enjoy to their heart's content.

The scripts are free, yes.  But you can't enhance JAWS itself.

Samuel

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