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* A question from a Linux new bee
@  jaffar
   ` Janina Sajka
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  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

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Hi Friends.  First, thanks to all who have helped me get the most updated version of Fc3 during the past few days.  I am now at the stage of preparing myself to install it on my home pc.  Let me, from the start, point out that I am totally new to linux, having been brought up, as it were, on the Windows' tradition of doing things.  My intention of branching into the Linux OS is so that I will be able to broaden my horizons in computer programming, and who knows, i may be able to program for Linux one day.  As for now, I'll need lots of advice and guidance.

I recently downloaded a linux user's guide from www.tldp.org and my question is, especially to those who have consulted it, is it sufficient for me to get by with it?  Also, are there any mannuals floating around which deals with fresh users like me, which is easily obtainable and is easy for new bees like me to understand?  And apart from www.linux-speakup.org are there any more sites that deal with Linux from an accessible stand point that I can consult and refer to?  Also, is there some sort of glossary of linux commands that I can study for now?  Sorry for the many questions, but As I stated earlier, I am a totally new user of linux, and for now, I'll need as much help and advice as I can get.  Thanks in advance and cheers!

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* RE: A question from a Linux new bee
@  Dawes, Stephen
   ` Janina Sajka
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: Dawes, Stephen @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

Janina,

How accessible is O'Reily's Safari service?

Stephen Dawes  <B.A., B.Sc.>
Management Systems Analyst
CITO Office, Information Technology #8245       |  Phone: (403) 268-5527
The City of Calgary                             |  Fax:   (403) 268-2546
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca 
> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
> Sent: 2005 May 02 8:16 PM
> To: jaffar@jeffstudio.net; Speakup is a screen review system 
> for Linux.
> Subject: Re: A question from a Linux new bee
> 
> There are some pointers near the end of our Speakup Modified 
> Fedora Installation HOWTO you might want to follow. The 
> pointer to the HOWTO for DOS/Windows users is particularly advisable.
> Also, consult the Red Hat 9 docs referenced in the HOWTO. 
> They're absolutely useful, especially for an overview.
> 
> As for docs in addition to tldp.org, I strongly suggest 
> BookShare for their O'Reily titles. Or, you could sign up for 
> O'Reily's Safari service.
> jaffar@jeffstudio.net writes:
> > Hi Friends.  First, thanks to all who have helped me get 
> the most updated version of Fc3 during the past few days.  I 
> am now at the stage of preparing myself to install it on my 
> home pc.  Let me, from the start, point out that I am totally 
> new to linux, having been brought up, as it were, on the 
> Windows' tradition of doing things.  My intention of 
> branching into the Linux OS is so that I will be able to 
> broaden my horizons in computer programming, and who knows, i 
> may be able to program for Linux one day.  As for now, I'll 
> need lots of advice and guidance.
> > 
> > I recently downloaded a linux user's guide from 
> www.tldp.org and my question is, especially to those who have 
> consulted it, is it sufficient for me to get by with it?  
> Also, are there any mannuals floating around which deals with 
> fresh users like me, which is easily obtainable and is easy 
> for new bees like me to understand?  And apart from 
> www.linux-speakup.org are there any more sites that deal with 
> Linux from an accessible stand point that I can consult and 
> refer to?  Also, is there some sort of glossary of linux 
> commands that I can study for now?  Sorry for the many 
> questions, but As I stated earlier, I am a totally new user 
> of linux, and for now, I'll need as much help and advice as I 
> can get.  Thanks in advance and cheers!
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> http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com
> 
> Chair, Accessibility Workgroup		Free Standards 
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> If Linux can't solve your computing problem, you need a 
> different problem.
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* RE: A question from a Linux new bee
@  Dawes, Stephen
   ` Janina Sajka
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: Dawes, Stephen @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

I am aware of book share's O'riley's collection. I am also aware of how
the collection was created. As I have been told, the source for the
bookshare was flat text files. So this is going to have a significant
impact on the mark-up of the text. I was think of looking into safari to
see if it would be any better. I know that O'Riley has been a big
advocate of making their publications available to the print disabled
community in the past, so it doesn't surprise me to hear that the safari
service is accessible.


Steve Dawes
Phone: (403) 268-5527
Email: SDawes@calgary.ca
 
 

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca 
> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
> Sent: 2005 May 03 8:44 AM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: A question from a Linux new bee
> 
> Hi, Stephen:
> 
> Dawes, Stephen writes:
> > Janina,
> > 
> > How accessible is O'Reily's Safari service?
> 
> I should point out that I've never been a subscriber, but I 
> did look at their examples some months ago and found the 
> service very accessible.
> They use very clean html, imho, with docbook sgml on their 
> back end, I believe.
> 
> However, I also think it important to point out that Book 
> Share has access to all O'Reily titles, though their markup 
> leaves much to be desired.
> 
> 
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* RE: A question from a Linux new bee
@  LARRY SKUTCHAN
   ` Steve Holmes
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: LARRY SKUTCHAN @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

Actually, the markup of these books in bookshare.org is quite good. 
There is no way these were created from flat text files.  I know most
books in the bookshare collection leave something to be desired in the
markup area, but the O'reilley collection is the exception.

The drawback to the Safari solution is that you must read the books on
line, and navigation from section to section, while accessible, is a
pain.

Don't even try copying a section to your clipboard, the service will
lock you out.

>>> Stephen.Dawes@calgary.ca Tuesday, May 03, 2005 10:57:00 AM >>>
I am aware of book share's O'riley's collection. I am also aware of
how
the collection was created. As I have been told, the source for the
bookshare was flat text files. So this is going to have a significant
impact on the mark-up of the text. I was think of looking into safari
to
see if it would be any better. I know that O'Riley has been a big
advocate of making their publications available to the print disabled
community in the past, so it doesn't surprise me to hear that the
safari
service is accessible.


Steve Dawes
Phone: (403) 268-5527
Email: SDawes@calgary.ca 
 
 

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca 
> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
> Sent: 2005 May 03 8:44 AM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: A question from a Linux new bee
> 
> Hi, Stephen:
> 
> Dawes, Stephen writes:
> > Janina,
> > 
> > How accessible is O'Reily's Safari service?
> 
> I should point out that I've never been a subscriber, but I 
> did look at their examples some months ago and found the 
> service very accessible.
> They use very clean html, imho, with docbook sgml on their 
> back end, I believe.
> 
> However, I also think it important to point out that Book 
> Share has access to all O'Reily titles, though their markup 
> leaves much to be desired.
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca 
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup 
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* RE: A question from a Linux new bee
@  Dawes, Stephen
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread
From: Dawes, Stephen @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

So, is the entire O'Riley's collection on Bookshare?


Stephen Dawes  <B.A., B.Sc.>
Management Systems Analyst
CITO Office, Information Technology #8245       |  Phone: (403) 268-5527
The City of Calgary                             |  Fax:   (403) 268-2546
   PO Box 2100 Postal Station M.                |  Email:
Stephen.Dawes@calgary.ca
   Calgary, Alberta, Canada. T2P 2M5            |  Web:
http://www.calgary.ca
 


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> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca 
> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of LARRY SKUTCHAN
> Sent: 2005 May 03 9:13 AM
> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> Subject: RE: A question from a Linux new bee
> 
> Actually, the markup of these books in bookshare.org is quite good. 
> There is no way these were created from flat text files.  I 
> know most books in the bookshare collection leave something 
> to be desired in the markup area, but the O'reilley 
> collection is the exception.
> 
> The drawback to the Safari solution is that you must read the 
> books on line, and navigation from section to section, while 
> accessible, is a pain.
> 
> Don't even try copying a section to your clipboard, the 
> service will lock you out.
> 
> >>> Stephen.Dawes@calgary.ca Tuesday, May 03, 2005 10:57:00 AM >>>
> I am aware of book share's O'riley's collection. I am also 
> aware of how the collection was created. As I have been told, 
> the source for the bookshare was flat text files. So this is 
> going to have a significant impact on the mark-up of the 
> text. I was think of looking into safari to see if it would 
> be any better. I know that O'Riley has been a big advocate of 
> making their publications available to the print disabled 
> community in the past, so it doesn't surprise me to hear that 
> the safari service is accessible.
> 
> 
> Steve Dawes
> Phone: (403) 268-5527
> Email: SDawes@calgary.ca 
>  
>  
> 
> NOTICE -
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> or entity named above and may contain information that is 
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> intended recipient named above or a person responsible for 
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
> > [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
> > Sent: 2005 May 03 8:44 AM
> > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> > Subject: Re: A question from a Linux new bee
> > 
> > Hi, Stephen:
> > 
> > Dawes, Stephen writes:
> > > Janina,
> > > 
> > > How accessible is O'Reily's Safari service?
> > 
> > I should point out that I've never been a subscriber, but I 
> did look 
> > at their examples some months ago and found the service very 
> > accessible.
> > They use very clean html, imho, with docbook sgml on their 
> back end, I 
> > believe.
> > 
> > However, I also think it important to point out that Book Share has 
> > access to all O'Reily titles, though their markup leaves much to be 
> > desired.
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > 
> > 
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* Re: A question from a Linux new bee
@  LARRY SKUTCHAN
   ` Steve Holmes
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: LARRY SKUTCHAN @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

This is not at all the experience I have had with the Daisy version of
these books.  I use the Book Wizard Reader software (in Windows) to
either read them on the PC or I send them to the Book Port.  In either
case, headings, sections, and subsections are all properly marked up and
navigable.

These are Daisy 3.x books, so if you have a daisy 2.x reader, they will
not work properly.

The entire collection is definatly not on bookshare.org, but many of
them are.

>>> steve@holmesgrown.com Tuesday, May 03, 2005 11:39:33 AM >>>
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Actually, I was extremely disappointed in Bookshare's markup of these
books.  In fact, they claim to have DAISY materials up there and none
of
the O'Reilley books work with DAISY and they even say so on the
website.
When I download the DAISY version of the O'Reilley books, I have to
open
up the HTML part and from what I've experienced in the past, I had no
links to navigte to.  If I were in IE or Firefox, I could use the
Window-Eyes' H command to jump from one header to the next but that's
hardly what I call good navigation.

I agree; the online services of Safari don't allow for any offline
reading so I guess there's a trade off.  I have beaten this drumb
enough times with no results, but I really wish Bookshare could
improve
the DAISY markup of the O'Reilly collection.

Also, someone asked if the entire collection was on Bookshare.  I
don't
think so and the reason I say that is I was referred to a book on Win
2000 securety one time Nd I could *NOT* find it on Bookshare and it
had
been touted as an O'Reilley book.  So I dunno for sure.

On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 11:13:17AM -0400, LARRY SKUTCHAN wrote:
> Actually, the markup of these books in bookshare.org is quite good. 
> There is no way these were created from flat text files.  I know
most
> books in the bookshare collection leave something to be desired in
the
> markup area, but the O'reilley collection is the exception.
> 
> The drawback to the Safari solution is that you must read the books
on
> line, and navigation from section to section, while accessible, is a
> pain.
> 
> Don't even try copying a section to your clipboard, the service will
> lock you out.

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* Re: A question from a Linux new bee
@  LARRY SKUTCHAN
   ` Janina Sajka
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread
From: LARRY SKUTCHAN @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

Bookshare has always been Daisy 3.0.  Any reader that supports 3.0 will
read the bookshare.org holdings.



>>> steve@holmesgrown.com Tuesday, May 03, 2005 12:10:42 PM >>>
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On Tue, May 03, 2005 at 11:48:37AM -0400, LARRY SKUTCHAN wrote:
> This is not at all the experience I have had with the Daisy version
of
> these books.  I use the Book Wizard Reader software (in Windows) to
> either read them on the PC or I send them to the Book Port.  In
either
> case, headings, sections, and subsections are all properly marked up
and
> navigable.
> 
> These are Daisy 3.x books, so if you have a daisy 2.x reader, they
will
> not work properly.
> 
> The entire collection is definatly not on bookshare.org, but many of
> them are.

Oh, did they update things recently? I thought the only reader that
could read Bookshare books was the Victor Reader soft (Bookshare
edition).  If they have completed migration to DAISY 3.0, then We only
need a decent DAISY reader for the job.

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* RE: A question from a Linux new bee
@  Dawes, Stephen
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  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

Glad to here that this is not the case any longer. 
I was basing my comments on what I was told by an O'Reiley Rep. when the
initial O'Reiley collection was being set up by bookshare.

Janina, I will admit I am wrong for the record, so that you can mark the
date on the wall. :-)



Steve Dawes
Phone: (403) 268-5527
Email: SDawes@calgary.ca
 
 

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca 
> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
> Sent: 2005 May 03 7:46 PM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: A question from a Linux new bee
> 
> Well, you're wrong. The source was certainly not flat ASCII. 
> BookShare has O'Reily's sgml and used scripts to transform the markup.
> 
> Dawes, Stephen writes:
> > I am aware of book share's O'riley's collection. I am also aware of 
> > how the collection was created. As I have been told, the source for 
> > the bookshare was flat text files. So this is going to have a 
> > significant impact on the mark-up of the text. I was think 
> of looking 
> > into safari to see if it would be any better. I know that 
> O'Riley has 
> > been a big advocate of making their publications available to the 
> > print disabled community in the past, so it doesn't surprise me to 
> > hear that the safari service is accessible.
> > 
> > 
> > Steve Dawes
> > Phone: (403) 268-5527
> > Email: SDawes@calgary.ca
> >  
> >  
> > 
> > NOTICE -
> > This communication is intended ONLY for the use of the 
> person or entity named above and may contain information that 
> is confidential or legally privileged. If you are not the 
> intended recipient named above or a person responsible for 
> delivering messages or communications to the intended 
> recipient, YOU ARE HEREBY NOTIFIED that any use, 
> distribution, or copying of this communication or any of the 
> information contained in it is strictly prohibited. If you 
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> immediately by telephone and then destroy or delete this 
> communication, or return it to us by mail if requested by us. 
> The City of Calgary thanks you for your attention and cooperation.
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca 
> > > [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
> > > Sent: 2005 May 03 8:44 AM
> > > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> > > Subject: Re: A question from a Linux new bee
> > > 
> > > Hi, Stephen:
> > > 
> > > Dawes, Stephen writes:
> > > > Janina,
> > > > 
> > > > How accessible is O'Reily's Safari service?
> > > 
> > > I should point out that I've never been a subscriber, but 
> I did look 
> > > at their examples some months ago and found the service very 
> > > accessible.
> > > They use very clean html, imho, with docbook sgml on 
> their back end, 
> > > I believe.
> > > 
> > > However, I also think it important to point out that Book 
> Share has 
> > > access to all O'Reily titles, though their markup leaves 
> much to be 
> > > desired.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> -- 
> 
> Janina Sajka				Phone: +1.202.494.7040
> Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC	
> http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com
> 
> Chair, Accessibility Workgroup		Free Standards 
> Group (FSG)
> janina@freestandards.org		http://a11y.org
> 
> If Linux can't solve your computing problem, you need a 
> different problem.
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> 


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