moving or copying speakup-JFW.map

moving or copying speakup-JFW.map

[ADFM]

I am a long term JAWS user. Yesterday I got a Speakup talking RedHat Linux distribution installed on my HD. I have an uncompressed Speakup-JFW.map file sitting in c:\Linux\Speakup-JFW. I am not sure what to do next. Should I copy or move the file somewhere? 

Angus MacKinnon
Adaptive Computer Educator, ACE
Web page: http://members.shaw.ca/dabneyadfm
MAILTO:flodabay@hotmail.com
Choroideremia Research Foundation Inc.
http://www.choroideremia.org

Re: moving or copying speakup-JFW.map

[Darragh]

Can you tell me what this file is used for?  I am also a JAWS user and your
mail caught my attention.

Darragh
----- Original Message -----
From: "ADFM" <flodabay@hotmail.com>
To: "Speakup List" <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 10:19 PM
Subject: moving or copying speakup-JFW.map


I am a long term JAWS user. Yesterday I got a Speakup talking RedHat Linux
distribution installed on my HD. I have an uncompressed Speakup-JFW.map file
sitting in c:\Linux\Speakup-JFW. I am not sure what to do next. Should I
copy or move the file somewhere?

Angus MacKinnon
Adaptive Computer Educator, ACE
Web page: http://members.shaw.ca/dabneyadfm
MAILTO:flodabay@hotmail.com
Choroideremia Research Foundation Inc.
http://www.choroideremia.org


_______________________________________________
Speakup mailing list
Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: moving or copying speakup-JFW.map

[Janina Sajka]

Angus:

This makes no sense.

However long you've used JAWS has absolutely nothing to do with Linux or 
Speakup. JAWS and JFW have nothing to do with Speakup and Linux.

There is no such thing as a Speakup JFW map file.

Obtaining the iso files is not the same as installing Linux.

Frankly, this message just doesn't make sense. If you want help, let's 
start with:

Where did you download from?
What files did you download?
Where did these files get downloaded to? This last question may have an 
answer like C:\linux or some such. The other two will not.

On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, ADFM wrote:

> I am a long term JAWS user. Yesterday I got a Speakup talking RedHat Linux distribution installed on my HD. I have an uncompressed Speakup-JFW.map file sitting in c:\Linux\Speakup-JFW. I am not sure what to do next. Should I copy or move the file somewhere? 
> 
> Angus MacKinnon
> Adaptive Computer Educator, ACE
> Web page: http://members.shaw.ca/dabneyadfm
> MAILTO:flodabay@hotmail.com
> Choroideremia Research Foundation Inc.
> http://www.choroideremia.org
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

-- 
	
				Janina Sajka, Director
				Technology Research and Development
				Governmental Relations Group
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

Email: janina@afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175

Chair, Accessibility SIG
Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF)
http://www.openebook.org

Re: moving or copying speakup-JFW.map

[Patrick Turnage]

Hi
There is a jfw key map up on the site at
ftp://ftp.braille.uwo.ca/pub/speakup/speakup-jfw.tar.gz
as I am a asap user I love the fact that Kirk used that as a model for the
speakup commands..
Larry's keypad layout allways made more since to me than the jfw keyboard
layoutfor reviewing..



        -------------------------
Patrick Turnage
e-mail:pturnage@tampabay.rr.com
Telephone: (850) 459-7717
HomePage: http://www.access-connect.com
Amateur radio callsign:kg4dqk
AOL Instant Messenger:kg4dqk
icq:26862191
MSN:turnagep@hotmail.com
Yahoo!:kg4dqk
America Online:kg4dqk1129 kg4dqk1129@aol.com

Re: moving or copying speakup-JFW.map

[Toby Fisher]

On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, Janina Sajka wrote:

> Angus:
>
> This makes no sense.
>
> However long you've used JAWS has absolutely nothing to do with Linux or
> Speakup. JAWS and JFW have nothing to do with Speakup and Linux.
>
> There is no such thing as a Speakup JFW map file.

Janina,

I would respectfully suggest that you obviously don't read all posts on
the list.

Somebody wrote exactly such a keymap, because a need was identified by
them, and others have used it, for a keymap for Speakup that was similar
for JFW, for those moving across from Winblows.  I believe that at least
Slackware has this file on its distribution cd.


Cheers.

-- 
Toby Fisher	Email: toby@g0ucu.freeserve.co.uk
Tel.: +44(0)1480 417272	Mobile: +44(0)7974 363239
ICQ: #61744808
   Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
   See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html

Re: moving or copying speakup-JFW.map

[Darragh]

I hate asking this question because I know the answer is probably very
simple, can someone tell me how to open .tar.gz files?

Darragh
----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick Turnage" <patrickt@tampabay.rr.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 4:58 AM
Subject: Re: moving or copying speakup-JFW.map


> Hi
> There is a jfw key map up on the site at
> ftp://ftp.braille.uwo.ca/pub/speakup/speakup-jfw.tar.gz
> as I am a asap user I love the fact that Kirk used that as a model for the
> speakup commands..
> Larry's keypad layout allways made more since to me than the jfw keyboard
> layoutfor reviewing..
>
>
>
>         -------------------------
> Patrick Turnage
> e-mail:pturnage@tampabay.rr.com
> Telephone: (850) 459-7717
> HomePage: http://www.access-connect.com
> Amateur radio callsign:kg4dqk
> AOL Instant Messenger:kg4dqk
> icq:26862191
> MSN:turnagep@hotmail.com
> Yahoo!:kg4dqk
> America Online:kg4dqk1129 kg4dqk1129@aol.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

Re: moving or copying speakup-JFW.map

[Janina Sajka]

Ah, of course. I had forgotten that.

So, let me amend my rant.

Once you have Linux installed and working, you can use this keymap to get 
JFW-style screen review. 

Of course, the question is whether this mapping still works. We've changed 
mappings in the past year, though I'm no expert on the implications, if 
any.

End of amendment. The rest of the rant stands.


On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, Patrick Turnage wrote:

> Hi
> There is a jfw key map up on the site at
> ftp://ftp.braille.uwo.ca/pub/speakup/speakup-jfw.tar.gz
> as I am a asap user I love the fact that Kirk used that as a model for the
> speakup commands..
> Larry's keypad layout allways made more since to me than the jfw keyboard
> layoutfor reviewing..
> 
> 
> 
>         -------------------------
> Patrick Turnage
> e-mail:pturnage@tampabay.rr.com
> Telephone: (850) 459-7717
> HomePage: http://www.access-connect.com
> Amateur radio callsign:kg4dqk
> AOL Instant Messenger:kg4dqk
> icq:26862191
> MSN:turnagep@hotmail.com
> Yahoo!:kg4dqk
> America Online:kg4dqk1129 kg4dqk1129@aol.com
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

-- 
	
				Janina Sajka, Director
				Technology Research and Development
				Governmental Relations Group
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

Email: janina@afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175

Chair, Accessibility SIG
Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF)
http://www.openebook.org

Re: moving or copying speakup-JFW.map

[Janina Sajka]

On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, Darragh wrote:
> can someone tell me how to open .tar.gz files?

tar xzpf [file-name]


> 
> Darragh
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Patrick Turnage" <patrickt@tampabay.rr.com>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 4:58 AM
> Subject: Re: moving or copying speakup-JFW.map
> 
> 
> > Hi
> > There is a jfw key map up on the site at
> > ftp://ftp.braille.uwo.ca/pub/speakup/speakup-jfw.tar.gz
> > as I am a asap user I love the fact that Kirk used that as a model for the
> > speakup commands..
> > Larry's keypad layout allways made more since to me than the jfw keyboard
> > layoutfor reviewing..
> >
> >
> >
> >         -------------------------
> > Patrick Turnage
> > e-mail:pturnage@tampabay.rr.com
> > Telephone: (850) 459-7717
> > HomePage: http://www.access-connect.com
> > Amateur radio callsign:kg4dqk
> > AOL Instant Messenger:kg4dqk
> > icq:26862191
> > MSN:turnagep@hotmail.com
> > Yahoo!:kg4dqk
> > America Online:kg4dqk1129 kg4dqk1129@aol.com
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

-- 
	
				Janina Sajka, Director
				Technology Research and Development
				Governmental Relations Group
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

Email: janina@afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175

Chair, Accessibility SIG
Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF)
http://www.openebook.org

Re: moving or copying speakup-JFW.map

[Darragh]

Thanks much appreciated
----- Original Message -----
From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@afb.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: moving or copying speakup-JFW.map


> On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, Darragh wrote:
> > can someone tell me how to open .tar.gz files?
>
> tar xzpf [file-name]
>
>
> >
> > Darragh
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Patrick Turnage" <patrickt@tampabay.rr.com>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 4:58 AM
> > Subject: Re: moving or copying speakup-JFW.map
> >
> >
> > > Hi
> > > There is a jfw key map up on the site at
> > > ftp://ftp.braille.uwo.ca/pub/speakup/speakup-jfw.tar.gz
> > > as I am a asap user I love the fact that Kirk used that as a model for
the
> > > speakup commands..
> > > Larry's keypad layout allways made more since to me than the jfw
keyboard
> > > layoutfor reviewing..
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >         -------------------------
> > > Patrick Turnage
> > > e-mail:pturnage@tampabay.rr.com
> > > Telephone: (850) 459-7717
> > > HomePage: http://www.access-connect.com
> > > Amateur radio callsign:kg4dqk
> > > AOL Instant Messenger:kg4dqk
> > > icq:26862191
> > > MSN:turnagep@hotmail.com
> > > Yahoo!:kg4dqk
> > > America Online:kg4dqk1129 kg4dqk1129@aol.com
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
> --
>
> Janina Sajka, Director
> Technology Research and Development
> Governmental Relations Group
> American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
>
> Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175
>
> Chair, Accessibility SIG
> Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF)
> http://www.openebook.org
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

Re: moving or copying speakup-JFW.map

[Darragh]

Ok, I'm sorry for all the posts but I'm getting descript by now, I have to
have a reasonable ability to send and receive mail, access and manipulate
files and completely other every day tasks in Linux.  I keep getting caught
up by stupid little things that I'd fly threw in Windows.  I'm not giving up
though, I've spent too much time on Linux for that.  I've tried the line tar
xzpf [file-name] with and without the brackets to see what would happen.
All I get is the version of the rpm program followed by the line rpm help.
It must be something that I'm doing rong and I apologize if it is but as I'm
not use to this system its not as understandable as I thought it would be.

Thanks

Darragh
----- Original Message -----
From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@afb.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: moving or copying speakup-JFW.map


> On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, Darragh wrote:
> > can someone tell me how to open .tar.gz files?
>
> tar xzpf [file-name]
>
>
> >
> > Darragh
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Patrick Turnage" <patrickt@tampabay.rr.com>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 4:58 AM
> > Subject: Re: moving or copying speakup-JFW.map
> >
> >
> > > Hi
> > > There is a jfw key map up on the site at
> > > ftp://ftp.braille.uwo.ca/pub/speakup/speakup-jfw.tar.gz
> > > as I am a asap user I love the fact that Kirk used that as a model for
the
> > > speakup commands..
> > > Larry's keypad layout allways made more since to me than the jfw
keyboard
> > > layoutfor reviewing..
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >         -------------------------
> > > Patrick Turnage
> > > e-mail:pturnage@tampabay.rr.com
> > > Telephone: (850) 459-7717
> > > HomePage: http://www.access-connect.com
> > > Amateur radio callsign:kg4dqk
> > > AOL Instant Messenger:kg4dqk
> > > icq:26862191
> > > MSN:turnagep@hotmail.com
> > > Yahoo!:kg4dqk
> > > America Online:kg4dqk1129 kg4dqk1129@aol.com
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
> --
>
> Janina Sajka, Director
> Technology Research and Development
> Governmental Relations Group
> American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
>
> Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175
>
> Chair, Accessibility SIG
> Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF)
> http://www.openebook.org
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

Re: moving or copying speakup-JFW.map

[ADFM]

Janina

Your email address kept bouncing.

I am really getting the hang of this. the Windows drive is mounted under /mnt/win98. Using cp and mv commands, I took "\Linux\speakup-jfw.map" to  /lib/kbd/keymaps/i386/qwerty. I am now working on moveing "emacspeak-16.0-1.i386.rpn". The next time I use Speakup, will the speakup-jfw.map get used?

I am not sure how to create a RedHat Speakup talking boot and/or rescue disk. Can you assist?

Angus MacKinnon
Adaptive Computer Educator, ACE
Web page: http://members.shaw.ca/dabneyadfm
MAILTO:flodabay@hotmail.com
Choroideremia Research Foundation Inc.
http://www.choroideremia.org

Re: moving or copying speakup-JFW.map

[Edward L. Barnes]

Hi there, as a follow-up to Janina's note in reply to Angus I figured 
that I should mention to Angus that if dons2unix and or unix2dos aren't 
present you'll need to install them using Red Hat's package manager, 
rpm, of course, if you had an experienced linux user help you who was 
ware of the fact that you were dual booting with windows and who 
recommended the custom installation or a full install you got both 
packages, however; if you went with something like server and picked all 
package groups or you went with something like laptop or workstation 
which incidentally thw howto re speakup modified Red hat doesn't 
recommend you probably don't have either of these packages.
To install these packages you could do something like these commands.
mount your cd-rom with a command like:
mount /mnt/cdrom
cd /mnt/cdrom/RedHat/RPMS 
Then, install the packages with something like:
rpm -iv dos2unix* 
or
rpm -iv unix2dos* 
RPM is very useful so as someone who is new having there very own rh 
system to use and learn from you might find it helpful in the long-term 
to familiarize yourself with rpm.
And, if you've not already figured it out, some commands like rpm and 
many of its options, mount, etc, are indispensible so familiarizing 
yourself with these early will most certainly prove benificial to you. 
I hope this note was helpful and that you enjoy learning Red Hat and 
linux generally, good luck, and for now I'm out of here, I need coffee ! 


Ed Barnes
Harbour Grace, Newfoundland, Canada
home phone +1-709-596-3165
e-mail and msn messenger id ebarnes@enigma2.cjb.net
********
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and 'successful.' Microsoft products are successful -- they make a lot of
money -- but that doesn't make them innovative, or even particularly
good." -ROBERT X. CRINGELY
********


On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, Janina Sajka wrote:

> Hi, Angus:
> 
> First, congradulations on getting Red Hat with Speakup working on your 
> computer.
> 
> Some quick tips:
> 
> You can mount a vfat partition in Linux. That means that you can make your 
> Windows files readable and writable in a directory under linux, though you 
> cannot execute applications directly.
> 
> To do so, create a mount point, meaning a directory -- perhaps something 
> like "winfiles" like this:
> 
> mkdir winfiles
> 
> Now, you can mount a partition to that directory. First you need to know 
> what partition holds the files you want. Do you know? Is it FAT32? I'll 
> guess that it's the first partition and that you use fat32. Your command 
> becomes:
> 
> mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 winfiles
> 
> Of course, adjust to conform to the facts on your system.
> Learn more by reading about mount:
> 
> man mount
> 
> Remember, also, that dos2unix is a command for converting dos format text 
> files to unix format:
> 
> dos2unix [file.name]
> 
> And there's a unix2dos to go the other way, too.
> 
> Now, there's great documentation to get you going. The tail end of our 
> HOWTO has some suggestions. Read the section called "Now What?." 
> 
> Also, look at the Red Hat Getting Started Guide at:
> 
> http://www.redhat.com/support/resources/howto/rhl73.html
> 
> Remember, the Getting Started Guide will walk you through many tasks. Skip 
> the parts about GNOME and KDE, because you can't use them yet. Go to the 
> parts about shell and command access.
> 
> Remember, you can have multiple consoles open. This is extremely handy. 
> It's a bit like Alt-TAB in Windows, but better. Use Alt plus any of the 
> first six function keys, F1, F2, F3, F4, F5, and F6, and login. You can go 
> back and forth between these consoles all day long, meaning you can keep 
> the guide op[en in one, while you try things out in another.
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, ADFM wrote:
> 
> > Janina
> > 
> > Sorry, I have RedHat speaking with Speakup. I am trying to remember how to move documents from my Windows drive to RedHat. I am trying to remember some UNIX commands like viewing files and directories. I know this is different from the DOS dir command. What I have come up with so far is:
> > 
> > cp /dev/hda1\Linux\speakup-jfw.map
> > 
> > Angus MacKinnon
> > Adaptive Computer Educator, ACE
> > Web page: http://members.shaw.ca/dabneyadfm
> > MAILTO:flodabay@hotmail.com
> > Choroideremia Research Foundation Inc.
> > http://www.choroideremia.org
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > 
> 
> 

Re: moving or copying speakup-JFW.map

[William F. Acker WB2FLW +1-303-777-8123]

A much better way in Red Hat Linux is to rename the file to 
"speakup-jfw.kmap".  Then, compress it by using "gzip -9 
speakup-jfw.kmap".  
Now, move speakup-jfw.kmap to /lib/kbd/keymaps/i386/qwerty.  Next, edit 
/etc/sysconfig/keyboard to reflect the new keymap KEYTABLE="speakup-jfw".  
Nothing need be done to rc.local.
-- 
          Bill in Denver


On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, Thomas Ward wrote:

> Hi, two things. First, I would like to correct Janina for making an
> incorrect  statement. She said, "There is no such thing as a speakup-jfw.map
> file."   Yes, there is a speakup-jfw.map and I wrote it.
> 
> Second, there is a readme file that ships with the map file that tells you
> exactly how to install the file. If you want to avoid recompiling simply
> copy the file to your /boot directory. Then add the following lines to
> /etc/rc.local.
> 
> loadkeys /boot/speakup-jfw.map
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

Re: moving or copying speakup-JFW.map

[Janina Sajka]

Hi, Angus:

First, congradulations on getting Red Hat with Speakup working on your 
computer.

Some quick tips:

You can mount a vfat partition in Linux. That means that you can make your 
Windows files readable and writable in a directory under linux, though you 
cannot execute applications directly.

To do so, create a mount point, meaning a directory -- perhaps something 
like "winfiles" like this:

mkdir winfiles

Now, you can mount a partition to that directory. First you need to know 
what partition holds the files you want. Do you know? Is it FAT32? I'll 
guess that it's the first partition and that you use fat32. Your command 
becomes:

mount -t vfat /dev/hda1 winfiles

Of course, adjust to conform to the facts on your system.
Learn more by reading about mount:

man mount

Remember, also, that dos2unix is a command for converting dos format text 
files to unix format:

dos2unix [file.name]

And there's a unix2dos to go the other way, too.

Now, there's great documentation to get you going. The tail end of our 
HOWTO has some suggestions. Read the section called "Now What?." 

Also, look at the Red Hat Getting Started Guide at:

http://www.redhat.com/support/resources/howto/rhl73.html

Remember, the Getting Started Guide will walk you through many tasks. Skip 
the parts about GNOME and KDE, because you can't use them yet. Go to the 
parts about shell and command access.

Remember, you can have multiple consoles open. This is extremely handy. 
It's a bit like Alt-TAB in Windows, but better. Use Alt plus any of the 
first six function keys, F1, F2, F3, F4, F5, and F6, and login. You can go 
back and forth between these consoles all day long, meaning you can keep 
the guide op[en in one, while you try things out in another.



On Tue, 20 Aug 2002, ADFM wrote:

> Janina
> 
> Sorry, I have RedHat speaking with Speakup. I am trying to remember how to move documents from my Windows drive to RedHat. I am trying to remember some UNIX commands like viewing files and directories. I know this is different from the DOS dir command. What I have come up with so far is:
> 
> cp /dev/hda1\Linux\speakup-jfw.map
> 
> Angus MacKinnon
> Adaptive Computer Educator, ACE
> Web page: http://members.shaw.ca/dabneyadfm
> MAILTO:flodabay@hotmail.com
> Choroideremia Research Foundation Inc.
> http://www.choroideremia.org
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

-- 
	
				Janina Sajka, Director
				Technology Research and Development
				Governmental Relations Group
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

Email: janina@afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175

Chair, Accessibility SIG
Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF)
http://www.openebook.org

Re: moving or copying speakup-JFW.map

[ADFM]

Janina

Sorry, I have RedHat speaking with Speakup. I am trying to remember how to move documents from my Windows drive to RedHat. I am trying to remember some UNIX commands like viewing files and directories. I know this is different from the DOS dir command. What I have come up with so far is:

cp /dev/hda1\Linux\speakup-jfw.map

Angus MacKinnon
Adaptive Computer Educator, ACE
Web page: http://members.shaw.ca/dabneyadfm
MAILTO:flodabay@hotmail.com
Choroideremia Research Foundation Inc.
http://www.choroideremia.org

Re: moving or copying speakup-JFW.map

[Janina Sajka]

Sorry, Thomas. My mistake clearly.

What triggered me, I think, is a missing piece of information from Angus. 
I don't believe he ever reported succeeding at installing--after weeks of 
bad beginnings. This one looked like another bad beginning.

I was wrong. And, maybe I missed his post about succeeding--I don't know.
 
On Tue, 20 Aug 
2002, Thomas Ward wrote:

> Hi, two things. First, I would like to correct Janina for making an
> incorrect  statement. She said, "There is no such thing as a speakup-jfw.map
> file."   Yes, there is a speakup-jfw.map and I wrote it.
> 
> Second, there is a readme file that ships with the map file that tells you
> exactly how to install the file. If you want to avoid recompiling simply
> copy the file to your /boot directory. Then add the following lines to
> /etc/rc.local.
> 
> loadkeys /boot/speakup-jfw.map
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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				Janina Sajka, Director
				Technology Research and Development
				Governmental Relations Group
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

Email: janina@afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175

Chair, Accessibility SIG
Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF)
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Re: moving or copying speakup-JFW.map

[Thomas Ward]

Hi, two things. First, I would like to correct Janina for making an
incorrect  statement. She said, "There is no such thing as a speakup-jfw.map
file."   Yes, there is a speakup-jfw.map and I wrote it.

Second, there is a readme file that ships with the map file that tells you
exactly how to install the file. If you want to avoid recompiling simply
copy the file to your /boot directory. Then add the following lines to
/etc/rc.local.

loadkeys /boot/speakup-jfw.map