* interesting story
@ Igor Gueths
` Alex Snow
0 siblings, 1 reply; 36+ messages in thread
From: Igor Gueths @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Hi all. Hope this is of interest.
Did Microsoft Flirt With Piracy?
Complaints about open-source software policy reveal piracy rap
in France.
Kim Zetter, special to PCWorld.com
Thursday, May 09, 2002
While Microsoft cracks down on software pirates the world
over, the software giant itself was quietly convicted of
piracy charges in France last fall--and the case, while
supposedly under appeal, may cost the company some business.
The French division of Microsoft is facing a fine of about
$422,000 for illegal use of another company's source code in
an animation program called Softimage 3D. The program has been
used to create such films as The Matrix, Men in Black, and
Star Wars. But the dispute itself was cited by a governmental
buyer who contends Microsoft should not complain about pirates
when it is guilty of the same transgression. Microsoft did not
respond to requests for comment.
Borrowed Code
The issue started in 1995 when Microsoft France purchased
Softimage, a Canadian company that developed the 3D CGI
animation program Softimage 3D. The acquired company was
accused of illegally lifting source code from a proprietary
program called Character, developed by the owners of Syn'x
Relief, a company near Paris.
In 1994, Softimage had negotiated with Syn'x about integrating
parts of the Character program into Softimage 3D. But the deal
fell through when Softimage demanded all rights to the code,
according to a report in PC World Malta. In 1995, when Syn'x
severed its relationship with Microsoft-Softimage, the company
assured Syn'x that it had removed "some or all" of Character
from its software. But Syn'x charges that Microsoft-Softimage
removed only one part of the code, and retained eight other
functions that Character's developers had registered with the
French National Intellectual Property Institute.
After Syn'x sent two letters to Softimage and Microsoft
demanding the functions be removed, the company filed suit. In
1998, Microsoft sold Softimage to Avid Technologies but
remained responsible for the legal infringements of its former
wholly owned subsidiary.
Although Syn'x eventually fell into bankruptcy as a result of
the case, the program's authors continued their fight. Last
September the Commercial Court of Nanterre, France, awarded
Syn'x the judgment for damages and interest. Microsoft has
vowed to appeal the decision.
Sales Pitch Rebuffed
Microsoft's brush with piracy in France came to light only
this week. The case was overshadowed at the time by the focus
on the September 11 terrorist attacks. But recently a Peruvian
congressman raised the issue in regard to a Microsoft
contract.
Dr. Edgar David Villanueva Nuñez corresponded in April with
Microsoft's general manager in Peru over proposed legislation
there that would require any software used by the Peruvian
government to be open source (or "free software," as it's
referred to in Peru). Microsoft representatives protested the
plan, writing the congressman that producing open-source
software makes a software company vulnerable to piracy of its
intellectual property by competitors. If Peru mandates the use
of open-source software by government agencies, it "would
establish discriminatory and noncompetitive practices in the
contracting and purchasing" of software by public bodies,
Microsoft stated.
Nuñez was apparently not persuaded. He replied to Microsoft:
"The inclusion of the intellectual property of others in works
claimed as one's own is not a practice that has been noted in
the [open-source] software community; whereas, unfortunately,
it has been in the area of proprietary software." He cited
specifically Microsoft's conviction by the Commercial Court of
France, "for violation of intellectual property (piracy, to
use the unfortunate term that your firm commonly uses in its
publicity)."
Meanwhile, Microsoft remains one of the most outspoken critics
of piracy, aggressively pursuing violators and urging
authorities to crack down on anyone who illegally copies its
software. The company even went so far as to include an
Activation Wizard in Windows XP, which prevents customers from
loading a single copy of XP onto more than one PC. The company
amended the policy after user outcry.
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* Re: interesting story
interesting story Igor Gueths
@ ` Alex Snow
` Gregory Nowak
` (2 more replies)
0 siblings, 3 replies; 36+ messages in thread
From: Alex Snow @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Sounds just like Microcrap. Hypocritical.
And about that xp activation thing, it's been cracked.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 7:33 PM
Subject: interesting story
Hi all. Hope this is of interest.
Did Microsoft Flirt With Piracy?
Complaints about open-source software policy reveal piracy
rap
in France.
Kim Zetter, special to PCWorld.com
Thursday, May 09, 2002
While Microsoft cracks down on software pirates the world
over, the software giant itself was quietly convicted of
piracy charges in France last fall--and the case, while
supposedly under appeal, may cost the company some
business.
The French division of Microsoft is facing a fine of about
$422,000 for illegal use of another company's source code
in
an animation program called Softimage 3D. The program has
been
used to create such films as The Matrix, Men in Black, and
Star Wars. But the dispute itself was cited by a
governmental
buyer who contends Microsoft should not complain about
pirates
when it is guilty of the same transgression. Microsoft did
not
respond to requests for comment.
Borrowed Code
The issue started in 1995 when Microsoft France purchased
Softimage, a Canadian company that developed the 3D CGI
animation program Softimage 3D. The acquired company was
accused of illegally lifting source code from a
proprietary
program called Character, developed by the owners of Syn'x
Relief, a company near Paris.
In 1994, Softimage had negotiated with Syn'x about
integrating
parts of the Character program into Softimage 3D. But the
deal
fell through when Softimage demanded all rights to the
code,
according to a report in PC World Malta. In 1995, when
Syn'x
severed its relationship with Microsoft-Softimage, the
company
assured Syn'x that it had removed "some or all" of
Character
from its software. But Syn'x charges that
Microsoft-Softimage
removed only one part of the code, and retained eight
other
functions that Character's developers had registered with
the
French National Intellectual Property Institute.
After Syn'x sent two letters to Softimage and Microsoft
demanding the functions be removed, the company filed
suit. In
1998, Microsoft sold Softimage to Avid Technologies but
remained responsible for the legal infringements of its
former
wholly owned subsidiary.
Although Syn'x eventually fell into bankruptcy as a result
of
the case, the program's authors continued their fight.
Last
September the Commercial Court of Nanterre, France,
awarded
Syn'x the judgment for damages and interest. Microsoft has
vowed to appeal the decision.
Sales Pitch Rebuffed
Microsoft's brush with piracy in France came to light only
this week. The case was overshadowed at the time by the
focus
on the September 11 terrorist attacks. But recently a
Peruvian
congressman raised the issue in regard to a Microsoft
contract.
Dr. Edgar David Villanueva Nuñez corresponded in April
with
Microsoft's general manager in Peru over proposed
legislation
there that would require any software used by the Peruvian
government to be open source (or "free software," as it's
referred to in Peru). Microsoft representatives protested
the
plan, writing the congressman that producing open-source
software makes a software company vulnerable to piracy of
its
intellectual property by competitors. If Peru mandates the
use
of open-source software by government agencies, it "would
establish discriminatory and noncompetitive practices in
the
contracting and purchasing" of software by public bodies,
Microsoft stated.
Nuñez was apparently not persuaded. He replied to
Microsoft:
"The inclusion of the intellectual property of others in
works
claimed as one's own is not a practice that has been noted
in
the [open-source] software community; whereas,
unfortunately,
it has been in the area of proprietary software." He cited
specifically Microsoft's conviction by the Commercial
Court of
France, "for violation of intellectual property (piracy,
to
use the unfortunate term that your firm commonly uses in
its
publicity)."
Meanwhile, Microsoft remains one of the most outspoken
critics
of piracy, aggressively pursuing violators and urging
authorities to crack down on anyone who illegally copies
its
software. The company even went so far as to include an
Activation Wizard in Windows XP, which prevents customers
from
loading a single copy of XP onto more than one PC. The
company
amended the policy after user outcry.
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* Re: interesting story
` Alex Snow
@ ` Gregory Nowak
` Alex Snow
` Igor Gueths
` Octavian Rasnita
2 siblings, 1 reply; 36+ messages in thread
From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Yeah. A friend of mine surprised me the other day by cheerfully informing me that he's got a cd of a cracked copy of windows xp.
Greg
On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 03:22:42PM -0400, Alex Snow wrote:
> Sounds just like Microcrap. Hypocritical.
> And about that xp activation thing, it's been cracked.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 7:33 PM
> Subject: interesting story
>
>
> Hi all. Hope this is of interest.
>
> Did Microsoft Flirt With Piracy?
>
> Complaints about open-source software policy reveal piracy
> rap
> in France.
> Kim Zetter, special to PCWorld.com
> Thursday, May 09, 2002
> While Microsoft cracks down on software pirates the world
> over, the software giant itself was quietly convicted of
> piracy charges in France last fall--and the case, while
> supposedly under appeal, may cost the company some
> business.
> The French division of Microsoft is facing a fine of about
> $422,000 for illegal use of another company's source code
> in
> an animation program called Softimage 3D. The program has
> been
> used to create such films as The Matrix, Men in Black, and
> Star Wars. But the dispute itself was cited by a
> governmental
> buyer who contends Microsoft should not complain about
> pirates
> when it is guilty of the same transgression. Microsoft did
> not
> respond to requests for comment.
> Borrowed Code
> The issue started in 1995 when Microsoft France purchased
> Softimage, a Canadian company that developed the 3D CGI
> animation program Softimage 3D. The acquired company was
> accused of illegally lifting source code from a
> proprietary
> program called Character, developed by the owners of Syn'x
> Relief, a company near Paris.
> In 1994, Softimage had negotiated with Syn'x about
> integrating
> parts of the Character program into Softimage 3D. But the
> deal
> fell through when Softimage demanded all rights to the
> code,
> according to a report in PC World Malta. In 1995, when
> Syn'x
> severed its relationship with Microsoft-Softimage, the
> company
> assured Syn'x that it had removed "some or all" of
> Character
> from its software. But Syn'x charges that
> Microsoft-Softimage
> removed only one part of the code, and retained eight
> other
> functions that Character's developers had registered with
> the
> French National Intellectual Property Institute.
> After Syn'x sent two letters to Softimage and Microsoft
> demanding the functions be removed, the company filed
> suit. In
> 1998, Microsoft sold Softimage to Avid Technologies but
> remained responsible for the legal infringements of its
> former
> wholly owned subsidiary.
> Although Syn'x eventually fell into bankruptcy as a result
> of
> the case, the program's authors continued their fight.
> Last
> September the Commercial Court of Nanterre, France,
> awarded
> Syn'x the judgment for damages and interest. Microsoft has
> vowed to appeal the decision.
> Sales Pitch Rebuffed
> Microsoft's brush with piracy in France came to light only
> this week. The case was overshadowed at the time by the
> focus
> on the September 11 terrorist attacks. But recently a
> Peruvian
> congressman raised the issue in regard to a Microsoft
> contract.
> Dr. Edgar David Villanueva Nuñez corresponded in April
> with
> Microsoft's general manager in Peru over proposed
> legislation
> there that would require any software used by the Peruvian
> government to be open source (or "free software," as it's
> referred to in Peru). Microsoft representatives protested
> the
> plan, writing the congressman that producing open-source
> software makes a software company vulnerable to piracy of
> its
> intellectual property by competitors. If Peru mandates the
> use
> of open-source software by government agencies, it "would
> establish discriminatory and noncompetitive practices in
> the
> contracting and purchasing" of software by public bodies,
> Microsoft stated.
> Nuñez was apparently not persuaded. He replied to
> Microsoft:
> "The inclusion of the intellectual property of others in
> works
> claimed as one's own is not a practice that has been noted
> in
> the [open-source] software community; whereas,
> unfortunately,
> it has been in the area of proprietary software." He cited
> specifically Microsoft's conviction by the Commercial
> Court of
> France, "for violation of intellectual property (piracy,
> to
> use the unfortunate term that your firm commonly uses in
> its
> publicity)."
> Meanwhile, Microsoft remains one of the most outspoken
> critics
> of piracy, aggressively pursuing violators and urging
> authorities to crack down on anyone who illegally copies
> its
> software. The company even went so far as to include an
> Activation Wizard in Windows XP, which prevents customers
> from
> loading a single copy of XP onto more than one PC. The
> company
> amended the policy after user outcry.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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* Re: interesting story
` Gregory Nowak
@ ` Alex Snow
` Igor Gueths
` Octavian Rasnita
0 siblings, 2 replies; 36+ messages in thread
From: Alex Snow @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
So Do I. Can't use it though because I don't got jaws "NT authorisation".
Maybe there's a crack for that also?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romualt.dhs.org>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: interesting story
> Yeah. A friend of mine surprised me the other day by cheerfully informing
me that he's got a cd of a cracked copy of windows xp.
> Greg
>
>
> On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 03:22:42PM -0400, Alex Snow wrote:
> > Sounds just like Microcrap. Hypocritical.
> > And about that xp activation thing, it's been cracked.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 7:33 PM
> > Subject: interesting story
> >
> >
> > Hi all. Hope this is of interest.
> >
> > Did Microsoft Flirt With Piracy?
> >
> > Complaints about open-source software policy reveal
piracy
> > rap
> > in France.
> > Kim Zetter, special to PCWorld.com
> > Thursday, May 09, 2002
> > While Microsoft cracks down on software pirates the
world
> > over, the software giant itself was quietly convicted
of
> > piracy charges in France last fall--and the case,
while
> > supposedly under appeal, may cost the company some
> > business.
> > The French division of Microsoft is facing a fine of
about
> > $422,000 for illegal use of another company's source
code
> > in
> > an animation program called Softimage 3D. The program
has
> > been
> > used to create such films as The Matrix, Men in Black,
and
> > Star Wars. But the dispute itself was cited by a
> > governmental
> > buyer who contends Microsoft should not complain about
> > pirates
> > when it is guilty of the same transgression. Microsoft
did
> > not
> > respond to requests for comment.
> > Borrowed Code
> > The issue started in 1995 when Microsoft France
purchased
> > Softimage, a Canadian company that developed the 3D
CGI
> > animation program Softimage 3D. The acquired company
was
> > accused of illegally lifting source code from a
> > proprietary
> > program called Character, developed by the owners of
Syn'x
> > Relief, a company near Paris.
> > In 1994, Softimage had negotiated with Syn'x about
> > integrating
> > parts of the Character program into Softimage 3D. But
the
> > deal
> > fell through when Softimage demanded all rights to the
> > code,
> > according to a report in PC World Malta. In 1995, when
> > Syn'x
> > severed its relationship with Microsoft-Softimage, the
> > company
> > assured Syn'x that it had removed "some or all" of
> > Character
> > from its software. But Syn'x charges that
> > Microsoft-Softimage
> > removed only one part of the code, and retained eight
> > other
> > functions that Character's developers had registered
with
> > the
> > French National Intellectual Property Institute.
> > After Syn'x sent two letters to Softimage and
Microsoft
> > demanding the functions be removed, the company filed
> > suit. In
> > 1998, Microsoft sold Softimage to Avid Technologies
but
> > remained responsible for the legal infringements of
its
> > former
> > wholly owned subsidiary.
> > Although Syn'x eventually fell into bankruptcy as a
result
> > of
> > the case, the program's authors continued their fight.
> > Last
> > September the Commercial Court of Nanterre, France,
> > awarded
> > Syn'x the judgment for damages and interest. Microsoft
has
> > vowed to appeal the decision.
> > Sales Pitch Rebuffed
> > Microsoft's brush with piracy in France came to light
only
> > this week. The case was overshadowed at the time by
the
> > focus
> > on the September 11 terrorist attacks. But recently a
> > Peruvian
> > congressman raised the issue in regard to a Microsoft
> > contract.
> > Dr. Edgar David Villanueva Nuñez corresponded in April
> > with
> > Microsoft's general manager in Peru over proposed
> > legislation
> > there that would require any software used by the
Peruvian
> > government to be open source (or "free software," as
it's
> > referred to in Peru). Microsoft representatives
protested
> > the
> > plan, writing the congressman that producing
open-source
> > software makes a software company vulnerable to piracy
of
> > its
> > intellectual property by competitors. If Peru mandates
the
> > use
> > of open-source software by government agencies, it
"would
> > establish discriminatory and noncompetitive practices
in
> > the
> > contracting and purchasing" of software by public
bodies,
> > Microsoft stated.
> > Nuñez was apparently not persuaded. He replied to
> > Microsoft:
> > "The inclusion of the intellectual property of others
in
> > works
> > claimed as one's own is not a practice that has been
noted
> > in
> > the [open-source] software community; whereas,
> > unfortunately,
> > it has been in the area of proprietary software." He
cited
> > specifically Microsoft's conviction by the Commercial
> > Court of
> > France, "for violation of intellectual property
(piracy,
> > to
> > use the unfortunate term that your firm commonly uses
in
> > its
> > publicity)."
> > Meanwhile, Microsoft remains one of the most outspoken
> > critics
> > of piracy, aggressively pursuing violators and urging
> > authorities to crack down on anyone who illegally
copies
> > its
> > software. The company even went so far as to include
an
> > Activation Wizard in Windows XP, which prevents
customers
> > from
> > loading a single copy of XP onto more than one PC. The
> > company
> > amended the policy after user outcry.
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
> _______________________________________________
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* Re: interesting story
` Alex Snow
` Gregory Nowak
@ ` Igor Gueths
` Octavian Rasnita
2 siblings, 0 replies; 36+ messages in thread
From: Igor Gueths @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Hi Alex. Yeah I know about the xp thing, and I just posted it to demonstrate everyone's theory that Microcrap is on the downward Spiral (Nine Inch Nails and Trent Resner).
----- Original Message -----
From: Alex Snow <alex_snow@gmx.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: interesting story
> Sounds just like Microcrap. Hypocritical.
> And about that xp activation thing, it's been cracked.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 7:33 PM
> Subject: interesting story
>
>
> Hi all. Hope this is of interest.
>
> Did Microsoft Flirt With Piracy?
>
> Complaints about open-source software policy reveal piracy
> rap
> in France.
> Kim Zetter, special to PCWorld.com
> Thursday, May 09, 2002
> While Microsoft cracks down on software pirates the world
> over, the software giant itself was quietly convicted of
> piracy charges in France last fall--and the case, while
> supposedly under appeal, may cost the company some
> business.
> The French division of Microsoft is facing a fine of about
> $422,000 for illegal use of another company's source code
> in
> an animation program called Softimage 3D. The program has
> been
> used to create such films as The Matrix, Men in Black, and
> Star Wars. But the dispute itself was cited by a
> governmental
> buyer who contends Microsoft should not complain about
> pirates
> when it is guilty of the same transgression. Microsoft did
> not
> respond to requests for comment.
> Borrowed Code
> The issue started in 1995 when Microsoft France purchased
> Softimage, a Canadian company that developed the 3D CGI
> animation program Softimage 3D. The acquired company was
> accused of illegally lifting source code from a
> proprietary
> program called Character, developed by the owners of Syn'x
> Relief, a company near Paris.
> In 1994, Softimage had negotiated with Syn'x about
> integrating
> parts of the Character program into Softimage 3D. But the
> deal
> fell through when Softimage demanded all rights to the
> code,
> according to a report in PC World Malta. In 1995, when
> Syn'x
> severed its relationship with Microsoft-Softimage, the
> company
> assured Syn'x that it had removed "some or all" of
> Character
> from its software. But Syn'x charges that
> Microsoft-Softimage
> removed only one part of the code, and retained eight
> other
> functions that Character's developers had registered with
> the
> French National Intellectual Property Institute.
> After Syn'x sent two letters to Softimage and Microsoft
> demanding the functions be removed, the company filed
> suit. In
> 1998, Microsoft sold Softimage to Avid Technologies but
> remained responsible for the legal infringements of its
> former
> wholly owned subsidiary.
> Although Syn'x eventually fell into bankruptcy as a result
> of
> the case, the program's authors continued their fight.
> Last
> September the Commercial Court of Nanterre, France,
> awarded
> Syn'x the judgment for damages and interest. Microsoft has
> vowed to appeal the decision.
> Sales Pitch Rebuffed
> Microsoft's brush with piracy in France came to light only
> this week. The case was overshadowed at the time by the
> focus
> on the September 11 terrorist attacks. But recently a
> Peruvian
> congressman raised the issue in regard to a Microsoft
> contract.
> Dr. Edgar David Villanueva Nuñez corresponded in April
> with
> Microsoft's general manager in Peru over proposed
> legislation
> there that would require any software used by the Peruvian
> government to be open source (or "free software," as it's
> referred to in Peru). Microsoft representatives protested
> the
> plan, writing the congressman that producing open-source
> software makes a software company vulnerable to piracy of
> its
> intellectual property by competitors. If Peru mandates the
> use
> of open-source software by government agencies, it "would
> establish discriminatory and noncompetitive practices in
> the
> contracting and purchasing" of software by public bodies,
> Microsoft stated.
> Nuñez was apparently not persuaded. He replied to
> Microsoft:
> "The inclusion of the intellectual property of others in
> works
> claimed as one's own is not a practice that has been noted
> in
> the [open-source] software community; whereas,
> unfortunately,
> it has been in the area of proprietary software." He cited
> specifically Microsoft's conviction by the Commercial
> Court of
> France, "for violation of intellectual property (piracy,
> to
> use the unfortunate term that your firm commonly uses in
> its
> publicity)."
> Meanwhile, Microsoft remains one of the most outspoken
> critics
> of piracy, aggressively pursuing violators and urging
> authorities to crack down on anyone who illegally copies
> its
> software. The company even went so far as to include an
> Activation Wizard in Windows XP, which prevents customers
> from
> loading a single copy of XP onto more than one PC. The
> company
> amended the policy after user outcry.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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* Re: interesting story
` Alex Snow
@ ` Igor Gueths
` Alex Snow
` (5 more replies)
` Octavian Rasnita
1 sibling, 6 replies; 36+ messages in thread
From: Igor Gueths @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Hi Alex. Now there's one thing that I don't think has been cracked or avoided yet. I think I could use my box to image an nt authorization, and then copy it onto a fat formatted disk for others to use. Now as for tricking Winblows into thinking that jfw is registered under w2k, will have to search the various reg keys for that one.
----- Original Message -----
From: Alex Snow <alex_snow@gmx.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: interesting story
> So Do I. Can't use it though because I don't got jaws "NT authorisation".
> Maybe there's a crack for that also?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romualt.dhs.org>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:28 PM
> Subject: Re: interesting story
>
>
> > Yeah. A friend of mine surprised me the other day by cheerfully informing
> me that he's got a cd of a cracked copy of windows xp.
> > Greg
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 03:22:42PM -0400, Alex Snow wrote:
> > > Sounds just like Microcrap. Hypocritical.
> > > And about that xp activation thing, it's been cracked.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
> > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 7:33 PM
> > > Subject: interesting story
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi all. Hope this is of interest.
> > >
> > > Did Microsoft Flirt With Piracy?
> > >
> > > Complaints about open-source software policy reveal
> piracy
> > > rap
> > > in France.
> > > Kim Zetter, special to PCWorld.com
> > > Thursday, May 09, 2002
> > > While Microsoft cracks down on software pirates the
> world
> > > over, the software giant itself was quietly convicted
> of
> > > piracy charges in France last fall--and the case,
> while
> > > supposedly under appeal, may cost the company some
> > > business.
> > > The French division of Microsoft is facing a fine of
> about
> > > $422,000 for illegal use of another company's source
> code
> > > in
> > > an animation program called Softimage 3D. The program
> has
> > > been
> > > used to create such films as The Matrix, Men in Black,
> and
> > > Star Wars. But the dispute itself was cited by a
> > > governmental
> > > buyer who contends Microsoft should not complain about
> > > pirates
> > > when it is guilty of the same transgression. Microsoft
> did
> > > not
> > > respond to requests for comment.
> > > Borrowed Code
> > > The issue started in 1995 when Microsoft France
> purchased
> > > Softimage, a Canadian company that developed the 3D
> CGI
> > > animation program Softimage 3D. The acquired company
> was
> > > accused of illegally lifting source code from a
> > > proprietary
> > > program called Character, developed by the owners of
> Syn'x
> > > Relief, a company near Paris.
> > > In 1994, Softimage had negotiated with Syn'x about
> > > integrating
> > > parts of the Character program into Softimage 3D. But
> the
> > > deal
> > > fell through when Softimage demanded all rights to the
> > > code,
> > > according to a report in PC World Malta. In 1995, when
> > > Syn'x
> > > severed its relationship with Microsoft-Softimage, the
> > > company
> > > assured Syn'x that it had removed "some or all" of
> > > Character
> > > from its software. But Syn'x charges that
> > > Microsoft-Softimage
> > > removed only one part of the code, and retained eight
> > > other
> > > functions that Character's developers had registered
> with
> > > the
> > > French National Intellectual Property Institute.
> > > After Syn'x sent two letters to Softimage and
> Microsoft
> > > demanding the functions be removed, the company filed
> > > suit. In
> > > 1998, Microsoft sold Softimage to Avid Technologies
> but
> > > remained responsible for the legal infringements of
> its
> > > former
> > > wholly owned subsidiary.
> > > Although Syn'x eventually fell into bankruptcy as a
> result
> > > of
> > > the case, the program's authors continued their fight.
> > > Last
> > > September the Commercial Court of Nanterre, France,
> > > awarded
> > > Syn'x the judgment for damages and interest. Microsoft
> has
> > > vowed to appeal the decision.
> > > Sales Pitch Rebuffed
> > > Microsoft's brush with piracy in France came to light
> only
> > > this week. The case was overshadowed at the time by
> the
> > > focus
> > > on the September 11 terrorist attacks. But recently a
> > > Peruvian
> > > congressman raised the issue in regard to a Microsoft
> > > contract.
> > > Dr. Edgar David Villanueva Nuñez corresponded in April
> > > with
> > > Microsoft's general manager in Peru over proposed
> > > legislation
> > > there that would require any software used by the
> Peruvian
> > > government to be open source (or "free software," as
> it's
> > > referred to in Peru). Microsoft representatives
> protested
> > > the
> > > plan, writing the congressman that producing
> open-source
> > > software makes a software company vulnerable to piracy
> of
> > > its
> > > intellectual property by competitors. If Peru mandates
> the
> > > use
> > > of open-source software by government agencies, it
> "would
> > > establish discriminatory and noncompetitive practices
> in
> > > the
> > > contracting and purchasing" of software by public
> bodies,
> > > Microsoft stated.
> > > Nuñez was apparently not persuaded. He replied to
> > > Microsoft:
> > > "The inclusion of the intellectual property of others
> in
> > > works
> > > claimed as one's own is not a practice that has been
> noted
> > > in
> > > the [open-source] software community; whereas,
> > > unfortunately,
> > > it has been in the area of proprietary software." He
> cited
> > > specifically Microsoft's conviction by the Commercial
> > > Court of
> > > France, "for violation of intellectual property
> (piracy,
> > > to
> > > use the unfortunate term that your firm commonly uses
> in
> > > its
> > > publicity)."
> > > Meanwhile, Microsoft remains one of the most outspoken
> > > critics
> > > of piracy, aggressively pursuing violators and urging
> > > authorities to crack down on anyone who illegally
> copies
> > > its
> > > software. The company even went so far as to include
> an
> > > Activation Wizard in Windows XP, which prevents
> customers
> > > from
> > > loading a single copy of XP onto more than one PC. The
> > > company
> > > amended the policy after user outcry.
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 36+ messages in thread
* Re: interesting story
` Igor Gueths
@ ` Alex Snow
` Alex Snow
` (4 subsequent siblings)
5 siblings, 0 replies; 36+ messages in thread
From: Alex Snow @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
You can't image the disk. I think there's hard errors on it to prevent me
from doing just that. The best thing to do is find out exactly what
hjauth.exe does. That would be great If I could run 2k or xp on this box
aspecially cause I'm running a server.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 6:47 PM
Subject: Re: interesting story
Hi Alex. Now there's one thing that I don't think has been cracked or
avoided yet. I think I could use my box to image an nt authorization, and
then copy it onto a fat formatted disk for others to use. Now as for
tricking Winblows into thinking that jfw is registered under w2k, will have
to search the various reg keys for that one.
----- Original Message -----
From: Alex Snow <alex_snow@gmx.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: interesting story
> So Do I. Can't use it though because I don't got jaws "NT authorisation".
> Maybe there's a crack for that also?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romualt.dhs.org>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:28 PM
> Subject: Re: interesting story
>
>
> > Yeah. A friend of mine surprised me the other day by cheerfully
informing
> me that he's got a cd of a cracked copy of windows xp.
> > Greg
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 03:22:42PM -0400, Alex Snow wrote:
> > > Sounds just like Microcrap. Hypocritical.
> > > And about that xp activation thing, it's been cracked.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
> > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 7:33 PM
> > > Subject: interesting story
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi all. Hope this is of interest.
> > >
> > > Did Microsoft Flirt With Piracy?
> > >
> > > Complaints about open-source software policy reveal
> piracy
> > > rap
> > > in France.
> > > Kim Zetter, special to PCWorld.com
> > > Thursday, May 09, 2002
> > > While Microsoft cracks down on software pirates the
> world
> > > over, the software giant itself was quietly
convicted
> of
> > > piracy charges in France last fall--and the case,
> while
> > > supposedly under appeal, may cost the company some
> > > business.
> > > The French division of Microsoft is facing a fine of
> about
> > > $422,000 for illegal use of another company's source
> code
> > > in
> > > an animation program called Softimage 3D. The
program
> has
> > > been
> > > used to create such films as The Matrix, Men in
Black,
> and
> > > Star Wars. But the dispute itself was cited by a
> > > governmental
> > > buyer who contends Microsoft should not complain
about
> > > pirates
> > > when it is guilty of the same transgression.
Microsoft
> did
> > > not
> > > respond to requests for comment.
> > > Borrowed Code
> > > The issue started in 1995 when Microsoft France
> purchased
> > > Softimage, a Canadian company that developed the 3D
> CGI
> > > animation program Softimage 3D. The acquired company
> was
> > > accused of illegally lifting source code from a
> > > proprietary
> > > program called Character, developed by the owners of
> Syn'x
> > > Relief, a company near Paris.
> > > In 1994, Softimage had negotiated with Syn'x about
> > > integrating
> > > parts of the Character program into Softimage 3D.
But
> the
> > > deal
> > > fell through when Softimage demanded all rights to
the
> > > code,
> > > according to a report in PC World Malta. In 1995,
when
> > > Syn'x
> > > severed its relationship with Microsoft-Softimage,
the
> > > company
> > > assured Syn'x that it had removed "some or all" of
> > > Character
> > > from its software. But Syn'x charges that
> > > Microsoft-Softimage
> > > removed only one part of the code, and retained
eight
> > > other
> > > functions that Character's developers had registered
> with
> > > the
> > > French National Intellectual Property Institute.
> > > After Syn'x sent two letters to Softimage and
> Microsoft
> > > demanding the functions be removed, the company
filed
> > > suit. In
> > > 1998, Microsoft sold Softimage to Avid Technologies
> but
> > > remained responsible for the legal infringements of
> its
> > > former
> > > wholly owned subsidiary.
> > > Although Syn'x eventually fell into bankruptcy as a
> result
> > > of
> > > the case, the program's authors continued their
fight.
> > > Last
> > > September the Commercial Court of Nanterre, France,
> > > awarded
> > > Syn'x the judgment for damages and interest.
Microsoft
> has
> > > vowed to appeal the decision.
> > > Sales Pitch Rebuffed
> > > Microsoft's brush with piracy in France came to
light
> only
> > > this week. The case was overshadowed at the time by
> the
> > > focus
> > > on the September 11 terrorist attacks. But recently
a
> > > Peruvian
> > > congressman raised the issue in regard to a
Microsoft
> > > contract.
> > > Dr. Edgar David Villanueva Nuñez corresponded in
April
> > > with
> > > Microsoft's general manager in Peru over proposed
> > > legislation
> > > there that would require any software used by the
> Peruvian
> > > government to be open source (or "free software," as
> it's
> > > referred to in Peru). Microsoft representatives
> protested
> > > the
> > > plan, writing the congressman that producing
> open-source
> > > software makes a software company vulnerable to
piracy
> of
> > > its
> > > intellectual property by competitors. If Peru
mandates
> the
> > > use
> > > of open-source software by government agencies, it
> "would
> > > establish discriminatory and noncompetitive
practices
> in
> > > the
> > > contracting and purchasing" of software by public
> bodies,
> > > Microsoft stated.
> > > Nuñez was apparently not persuaded. He replied to
> > > Microsoft:
> > > "The inclusion of the intellectual property of
others
> in
> > > works
> > > claimed as one's own is not a practice that has been
> noted
> > > in
> > > the [open-source] software community; whereas,
> > > unfortunately,
> > > it has been in the area of proprietary software." He
> cited
> > > specifically Microsoft's conviction by the
Commercial
> > > Court of
> > > France, "for violation of intellectual property
> (piracy,
> > > to
> > > use the unfortunate term that your firm commonly
uses
> in
> > > its
> > > publicity)."
> > > Meanwhile, Microsoft remains one of the most
outspoken
> > > critics
> > > of piracy, aggressively pursuing violators and
urging
> > > authorities to crack down on anyone who illegally
> copies
> > > its
> > > software. The company even went so far as to include
> an
> > > Activation Wizard in Windows XP, which prevents
> customers
> > > from
> > > loading a single copy of XP onto more than one PC.
The
> > > company
> > > amended the policy after user outcry.
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
_______________________________________________
Speakup mailing list
Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 36+ messages in thread
* Re: interesting story
` Igor Gueths
` Alex Snow
@ ` Alex Snow
` Alex Snow
` (3 subsequent siblings)
5 siblings, 0 replies; 36+ messages in thread
From: Alex Snow @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
You can't image the disk. I think there's hard errors on it to prevent me
from doing just that. The best thing to do is find out exactly what
hjauth.exe does. That would be great If I could run 2k or xp on this box
aspecially cause I'm running a server.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 6:47 PM
Subject: Re: interesting story
Hi Alex. Now there's one thing that I don't think has been cracked or
avoided yet. I think I could use my box to image an nt authorization, and
then copy it onto a fat formatted disk for others to use. Now as for
tricking Winblows into thinking that jfw is registered under w2k, will have
to search the various reg keys for that one.
----- Original Message -----
From: Alex Snow <alex_snow@gmx.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: interesting story
> So Do I. Can't use it though because I don't got jaws "NT authorisation".
> Maybe there's a crack for that also?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romualt.dhs.org>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:28 PM
> Subject: Re: interesting story
>
>
> > Yeah. A friend of mine surprised me the other day by cheerfully
informing
> me that he's got a cd of a cracked copy of windows xp.
> > Greg
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 03:22:42PM -0400, Alex Snow wrote:
> > > Sounds just like Microcrap. Hypocritical.
> > > And about that xp activation thing, it's been cracked.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
> > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 7:33 PM
> > > Subject: interesting story
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi all. Hope this is of interest.
> > >
> > > Did Microsoft Flirt With Piracy?
> > >
> > > Complaints about open-source software policy reveal
> piracy
> > > rap
> > > in France.
> > > Kim Zetter, special to PCWorld.com
> > > Thursday, May 09, 2002
> > > While Microsoft cracks down on software pirates the
> world
> > > over, the software giant itself was quietly
convicted
> of
> > > piracy charges in France last fall--and the case,
> while
> > > supposedly under appeal, may cost the company some
> > > business.
> > > The French division of Microsoft is facing a fine of
> about
> > > $422,000 for illegal use of another company's source
> code
> > > in
> > > an animation program called Softimage 3D. The
program
> has
> > > been
> > > used to create such films as The Matrix, Men in
Black,
> and
> > > Star Wars. But the dispute itself was cited by a
> > > governmental
> > > buyer who contends Microsoft should not complain
about
> > > pirates
> > > when it is guilty of the same transgression.
Microsoft
> did
> > > not
> > > respond to requests for comment.
> > > Borrowed Code
> > > The issue started in 1995 when Microsoft France
> purchased
> > > Softimage, a Canadian company that developed the 3D
> CGI
> > > animation program Softimage 3D. The acquired company
> was
> > > accused of illegally lifting source code from a
> > > proprietary
> > > program called Character, developed by the owners of
> Syn'x
> > > Relief, a company near Paris.
> > > In 1994, Softimage had negotiated with Syn'x about
> > > integrating
> > > parts of the Character program into Softimage 3D.
But
> the
> > > deal
> > > fell through when Softimage demanded all rights to
the
> > > code,
> > > according to a report in PC World Malta. In 1995,
when
> > > Syn'x
> > > severed its relationship with Microsoft-Softimage,
the
> > > company
> > > assured Syn'x that it had removed "some or all" of
> > > Character
> > > from its software. But Syn'x charges that
> > > Microsoft-Softimage
> > > removed only one part of the code, and retained
eight
> > > other
> > > functions that Character's developers had registered
> with
> > > the
> > > French National Intellectual Property Institute.
> > > After Syn'x sent two letters to Softimage and
> Microsoft
> > > demanding the functions be removed, the company
filed
> > > suit. In
> > > 1998, Microsoft sold Softimage to Avid Technologies
> but
> > > remained responsible for the legal infringements of
> its
> > > former
> > > wholly owned subsidiary.
> > > Although Syn'x eventually fell into bankruptcy as a
> result
> > > of
> > > the case, the program's authors continued their
fight.
> > > Last
> > > September the Commercial Court of Nanterre, France,
> > > awarded
> > > Syn'x the judgment for damages and interest.
Microsoft
> has
> > > vowed to appeal the decision.
> > > Sales Pitch Rebuffed
> > > Microsoft's brush with piracy in France came to
light
> only
> > > this week. The case was overshadowed at the time by
> the
> > > focus
> > > on the September 11 terrorist attacks. But recently
a
> > > Peruvian
> > > congressman raised the issue in regard to a
Microsoft
> > > contract.
> > > Dr. Edgar David Villanueva Nuñez corresponded in
April
> > > with
> > > Microsoft's general manager in Peru over proposed
> > > legislation
> > > there that would require any software used by the
> Peruvian
> > > government to be open source (or "free software," as
> it's
> > > referred to in Peru). Microsoft representatives
> protested
> > > the
> > > plan, writing the congressman that producing
> open-source
> > > software makes a software company vulnerable to
piracy
> of
> > > its
> > > intellectual property by competitors. If Peru
mandates
> the
> > > use
> > > of open-source software by government agencies, it
> "would
> > > establish discriminatory and noncompetitive
practices
> in
> > > the
> > > contracting and purchasing" of software by public
> bodies,
> > > Microsoft stated.
> > > Nuñez was apparently not persuaded. He replied to
> > > Microsoft:
> > > "The inclusion of the intellectual property of
others
> in
> > > works
> > > claimed as one's own is not a practice that has been
> noted
> > > in
> > > the [open-source] software community; whereas,
> > > unfortunately,
> > > it has been in the area of proprietary software." He
> cited
> > > specifically Microsoft's conviction by the
Commercial
> > > Court of
> > > France, "for violation of intellectual property
> (piracy,
> > > to
> > > use the unfortunate term that your firm commonly
uses
> in
> > > its
> > > publicity)."
> > > Meanwhile, Microsoft remains one of the most
outspoken
> > > critics
> > > of piracy, aggressively pursuing violators and
urging
> > > authorities to crack down on anyone who illegally
> copies
> > > its
> > > software. The company even went so far as to include
> an
> > > Activation Wizard in Windows XP, which prevents
> customers
> > > from
> > > loading a single copy of XP onto more than one PC.
The
> > > company
> > > amended the policy after user outcry.
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
_______________________________________________
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 36+ messages in thread
* Re: interesting story
` Igor Gueths
` Alex Snow
` Alex Snow
@ ` Alex Snow
` Octavian Rasnita
` Shaun Oliver
` Alex Snow
` (2 subsequent siblings)
5 siblings, 2 replies; 36+ messages in thread
From: Alex Snow @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
You can't image the disk. I think there's hard errors on it to prevent me
from doing just that. The best thing to do is find out exactly what
hjauth.exe does. That would be great If I could run 2k or xp on this box
aspecially cause I'm running a server.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 6:47 PM
Subject: Re: interesting story
Hi Alex. Now there's one thing that I don't think has been cracked or
avoided yet. I think I could use my box to image an nt authorization, and
then copy it onto a fat formatted disk for others to use. Now as for
tricking Winblows into thinking that jfw is registered under w2k, will have
to search the various reg keys for that one.
----- Original Message -----
From: Alex Snow <alex_snow@gmx.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: interesting story
> So Do I. Can't use it though because I don't got jaws "NT authorisation".
> Maybe there's a crack for that also?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romualt.dhs.org>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:28 PM
> Subject: Re: interesting story
>
>
> > Yeah. A friend of mine surprised me the other day by cheerfully
informing
> me that he's got a cd of a cracked copy of windows xp.
> > Greg
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 03:22:42PM -0400, Alex Snow wrote:
> > > Sounds just like Microcrap. Hypocritical.
> > > And about that xp activation thing, it's been cracked.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
> > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 7:33 PM
> > > Subject: interesting story
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi all. Hope this is of interest.
> > >
> > > Did Microsoft Flirt With Piracy?
> > >
> > > Complaints about open-source software policy reveal
> piracy
> > > rap
> > > in France.
> > > Kim Zetter, special to PCWorld.com
> > > Thursday, May 09, 2002
> > > While Microsoft cracks down on software pirates the
> world
> > > over, the software giant itself was quietly
convicted
> of
> > > piracy charges in France last fall--and the case,
> while
> > > supposedly under appeal, may cost the company some
> > > business.
> > > The French division of Microsoft is facing a fine of
> about
> > > $422,000 for illegal use of another company's source
> code
> > > in
> > > an animation program called Softimage 3D. The
program
> has
> > > been
> > > used to create such films as The Matrix, Men in
Black,
> and
> > > Star Wars. But the dispute itself was cited by a
> > > governmental
> > > buyer who contends Microsoft should not complain
about
> > > pirates
> > > when it is guilty of the same transgression.
Microsoft
> did
> > > not
> > > respond to requests for comment.
> > > Borrowed Code
> > > The issue started in 1995 when Microsoft France
> purchased
> > > Softimage, a Canadian company that developed the 3D
> CGI
> > > animation program Softimage 3D. The acquired company
> was
> > > accused of illegally lifting source code from a
> > > proprietary
> > > program called Character, developed by the owners of
> Syn'x
> > > Relief, a company near Paris.
> > > In 1994, Softimage had negotiated with Syn'x about
> > > integrating
> > > parts of the Character program into Softimage 3D.
But
> the
> > > deal
> > > fell through when Softimage demanded all rights to
the
> > > code,
> > > according to a report in PC World Malta. In 1995,
when
> > > Syn'x
> > > severed its relationship with Microsoft-Softimage,
the
> > > company
> > > assured Syn'x that it had removed "some or all" of
> > > Character
> > > from its software. But Syn'x charges that
> > > Microsoft-Softimage
> > > removed only one part of the code, and retained
eight
> > > other
> > > functions that Character's developers had registered
> with
> > > the
> > > French National Intellectual Property Institute.
> > > After Syn'x sent two letters to Softimage and
> Microsoft
> > > demanding the functions be removed, the company
filed
> > > suit. In
> > > 1998, Microsoft sold Softimage to Avid Technologies
> but
> > > remained responsible for the legal infringements of
> its
> > > former
> > > wholly owned subsidiary.
> > > Although Syn'x eventually fell into bankruptcy as a
> result
> > > of
> > > the case, the program's authors continued their
fight.
> > > Last
> > > September the Commercial Court of Nanterre, France,
> > > awarded
> > > Syn'x the judgment for damages and interest.
Microsoft
> has
> > > vowed to appeal the decision.
> > > Sales Pitch Rebuffed
> > > Microsoft's brush with piracy in France came to
light
> only
> > > this week. The case was overshadowed at the time by
> the
> > > focus
> > > on the September 11 terrorist attacks. But recently
a
> > > Peruvian
> > > congressman raised the issue in regard to a
Microsoft
> > > contract.
> > > Dr. Edgar David Villanueva Nuñez corresponded in
April
> > > with
> > > Microsoft's general manager in Peru over proposed
> > > legislation
> > > there that would require any software used by the
> Peruvian
> > > government to be open source (or "free software," as
> it's
> > > referred to in Peru). Microsoft representatives
> protested
> > > the
> > > plan, writing the congressman that producing
> open-source
> > > software makes a software company vulnerable to
piracy
> of
> > > its
> > > intellectual property by competitors. If Peru
mandates
> the
> > > use
> > > of open-source software by government agencies, it
> "would
> > > establish discriminatory and noncompetitive
practices
> in
> > > the
> > > contracting and purchasing" of software by public
> bodies,
> > > Microsoft stated.
> > > Nuñez was apparently not persuaded. He replied to
> > > Microsoft:
> > > "The inclusion of the intellectual property of
others
> in
> > > works
> > > claimed as one's own is not a practice that has been
> noted
> > > in
> > > the [open-source] software community; whereas,
> > > unfortunately,
> > > it has been in the area of proprietary software." He
> cited
> > > specifically Microsoft's conviction by the
Commercial
> > > Court of
> > > France, "for violation of intellectual property
> (piracy,
> > > to
> > > use the unfortunate term that your firm commonly
uses
> in
> > > its
> > > publicity)."
> > > Meanwhile, Microsoft remains one of the most
outspoken
> > > critics
> > > of piracy, aggressively pursuing violators and
urging
> > > authorities to crack down on anyone who illegally
> copies
> > > its
> > > software. The company even went so far as to include
> an
> > > Activation Wizard in Windows XP, which prevents
> customers
> > > from
> > > loading a single copy of XP onto more than one PC.
The
> > > company
> > > amended the policy after user outcry.
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
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> >
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> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
>
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* Re: interesting story
` Igor Gueths
` (2 preceding siblings ...)
` Alex Snow
@ ` Alex Snow
` Ameer Armaly
` Ryan Mann
` Ameer Armaly
` Octavian Rasnita
5 siblings, 2 replies; 36+ messages in thread
From: Alex Snow @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
You can't image the disk. I think there's hard errors on it to prevent me
from doing just that. The best thing to do is find out exactly what
hjauth.exe does. That would be great If I could run 2k or xp on this box
aspecially cause I'm running a server.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 6:47 PM
Subject: Re: interesting story
Hi Alex. Now there's one thing that I don't think has been cracked or
avoided yet. I think I could use my box to image an nt authorization, and
then copy it onto a fat formatted disk for others to use. Now as for
tricking Winblows into thinking that jfw is registered under w2k, will have
to search the various reg keys for that one.
----- Original Message -----
From: Alex Snow <alex_snow@gmx.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: interesting story
> So Do I. Can't use it though because I don't got jaws "NT authorisation".
> Maybe there's a crack for that also?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romualt.dhs.org>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:28 PM
> Subject: Re: interesting story
>
>
> > Yeah. A friend of mine surprised me the other day by cheerfully
informing
> me that he's got a cd of a cracked copy of windows xp.
> > Greg
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 03:22:42PM -0400, Alex Snow wrote:
> > > Sounds just like Microcrap. Hypocritical.
> > > And about that xp activation thing, it's been cracked.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
> > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 7:33 PM
> > > Subject: interesting story
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi all. Hope this is of interest.
> > >
> > > Did Microsoft Flirt With Piracy?
> > >
> > > Complaints about open-source software policy reveal
> piracy
> > > rap
> > > in France.
> > > Kim Zetter, special to PCWorld.com
> > > Thursday, May 09, 2002
> > > While Microsoft cracks down on software pirates the
> world
> > > over, the software giant itself was quietly
convicted
> of
> > > piracy charges in France last fall--and the case,
> while
> > > supposedly under appeal, may cost the company some
> > > business.
> > > The French division of Microsoft is facing a fine of
> about
> > > $422,000 for illegal use of another company's source
> code
> > > in
> > > an animation program called Softimage 3D. The
program
> has
> > > been
> > > used to create such films as The Matrix, Men in
Black,
> and
> > > Star Wars. But the dispute itself was cited by a
> > > governmental
> > > buyer who contends Microsoft should not complain
about
> > > pirates
> > > when it is guilty of the same transgression.
Microsoft
> did
> > > not
> > > respond to requests for comment.
> > > Borrowed Code
> > > The issue started in 1995 when Microsoft France
> purchased
> > > Softimage, a Canadian company that developed the 3D
> CGI
> > > animation program Softimage 3D. The acquired company
> was
> > > accused of illegally lifting source code from a
> > > proprietary
> > > program called Character, developed by the owners of
> Syn'x
> > > Relief, a company near Paris.
> > > In 1994, Softimage had negotiated with Syn'x about
> > > integrating
> > > parts of the Character program into Softimage 3D.
But
> the
> > > deal
> > > fell through when Softimage demanded all rights to
the
> > > code,
> > > according to a report in PC World Malta. In 1995,
when
> > > Syn'x
> > > severed its relationship with Microsoft-Softimage,
the
> > > company
> > > assured Syn'x that it had removed "some or all" of
> > > Character
> > > from its software. But Syn'x charges that
> > > Microsoft-Softimage
> > > removed only one part of the code, and retained
eight
> > > other
> > > functions that Character's developers had registered
> with
> > > the
> > > French National Intellectual Property Institute.
> > > After Syn'x sent two letters to Softimage and
> Microsoft
> > > demanding the functions be removed, the company
filed
> > > suit. In
> > > 1998, Microsoft sold Softimage to Avid Technologies
> but
> > > remained responsible for the legal infringements of
> its
> > > former
> > > wholly owned subsidiary.
> > > Although Syn'x eventually fell into bankruptcy as a
> result
> > > of
> > > the case, the program's authors continued their
fight.
> > > Last
> > > September the Commercial Court of Nanterre, France,
> > > awarded
> > > Syn'x the judgment for damages and interest.
Microsoft
> has
> > > vowed to appeal the decision.
> > > Sales Pitch Rebuffed
> > > Microsoft's brush with piracy in France came to
light
> only
> > > this week. The case was overshadowed at the time by
> the
> > > focus
> > > on the September 11 terrorist attacks. But recently
a
> > > Peruvian
> > > congressman raised the issue in regard to a
Microsoft
> > > contract.
> > > Dr. Edgar David Villanueva Nuñez corresponded in
April
> > > with
> > > Microsoft's general manager in Peru over proposed
> > > legislation
> > > there that would require any software used by the
> Peruvian
> > > government to be open source (or "free software," as
> it's
> > > referred to in Peru). Microsoft representatives
> protested
> > > the
> > > plan, writing the congressman that producing
> open-source
> > > software makes a software company vulnerable to
piracy
> of
> > > its
> > > intellectual property by competitors. If Peru
mandates
> the
> > > use
> > > of open-source software by government agencies, it
> "would
> > > establish discriminatory and noncompetitive
practices
> in
> > > the
> > > contracting and purchasing" of software by public
> bodies,
> > > Microsoft stated.
> > > Nuñez was apparently not persuaded. He replied to
> > > Microsoft:
> > > "The inclusion of the intellectual property of
others
> in
> > > works
> > > claimed as one's own is not a practice that has been
> noted
> > > in
> > > the [open-source] software community; whereas,
> > > unfortunately,
> > > it has been in the area of proprietary software." He
> cited
> > > specifically Microsoft's conviction by the
Commercial
> > > Court of
> > > France, "for violation of intellectual property
> (piracy,
> > > to
> > > use the unfortunate term that your firm commonly
uses
> in
> > > its
> > > publicity)."
> > > Meanwhile, Microsoft remains one of the most
outspoken
> > > critics
> > > of piracy, aggressively pursuing violators and
urging
> > > authorities to crack down on anyone who illegally
> copies
> > > its
> > > software. The company even went so far as to include
> an
> > > Activation Wizard in Windows XP, which prevents
> customers
> > > from
> > > loading a single copy of XP onto more than one PC.
The
> > > company
> > > amended the policy after user outcry.
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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* Re: interesting story
` Igor Gueths
` (3 preceding siblings ...)
` Alex Snow
@ ` Ameer Armaly
` Igor Gueths
` Octavian Rasnita
5 siblings, 1 reply; 36+ messages in thread
From: Ameer Armaly @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
it's not a reg key. It's a flag in the auth file.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 6:47 PM
Subject: Re: interesting story
Hi Alex. Now there's one thing that I don't think has been cracked or
avoided yet. I think I could use my box to image an nt authorization, and
then copy it onto a fat formatted disk for others to use. Now as for
tricking Winblows into thinking that jfw is registered under w2k, will have
to search the various reg keys for that one.
----- Original Message -----
From: Alex Snow <alex_snow@gmx.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: interesting story
> So Do I. Can't use it though because I don't got jaws "NT authorisation".
> Maybe there's a crack for that also?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romualt.dhs.org>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:28 PM
> Subject: Re: interesting story
>
>
> > Yeah. A friend of mine surprised me the other day by cheerfully
informing
> me that he's got a cd of a cracked copy of windows xp.
> > Greg
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 03:22:42PM -0400, Alex Snow wrote:
> > > Sounds just like Microcrap. Hypocritical.
> > > And about that xp activation thing, it's been cracked.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
> > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 7:33 PM
> > > Subject: interesting story
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi all. Hope this is of interest.
> > >
> > > Did Microsoft Flirt With Piracy?
> > >
> > > Complaints about open-source software policy reveal
> piracy
> > > rap
> > > in France.
> > > Kim Zetter, special to PCWorld.com
> > > Thursday, May 09, 2002
> > > While Microsoft cracks down on software pirates the
> world
> > > over, the software giant itself was quietly
convicted
> of
> > > piracy charges in France last fall--and the case,
> while
> > > supposedly under appeal, may cost the company some
> > > business.
> > > The French division of Microsoft is facing a fine of
> about
> > > $422,000 for illegal use of another company's source
> code
> > > in
> > > an animation program called Softimage 3D. The
program
> has
> > > been
> > > used to create such films as The Matrix, Men in
Black,
> and
> > > Star Wars. But the dispute itself was cited by a
> > > governmental
> > > buyer who contends Microsoft should not complain
about
> > > pirates
> > > when it is guilty of the same transgression.
Microsoft
> did
> > > not
> > > respond to requests for comment.
> > > Borrowed Code
> > > The issue started in 1995 when Microsoft France
> purchased
> > > Softimage, a Canadian company that developed the 3D
> CGI
> > > animation program Softimage 3D. The acquired company
> was
> > > accused of illegally lifting source code from a
> > > proprietary
> > > program called Character, developed by the owners of
> Syn'x
> > > Relief, a company near Paris.
> > > In 1994, Softimage had negotiated with Syn'x about
> > > integrating
> > > parts of the Character program into Softimage 3D.
But
> the
> > > deal
> > > fell through when Softimage demanded all rights to
the
> > > code,
> > > according to a report in PC World Malta. In 1995,
when
> > > Syn'x
> > > severed its relationship with Microsoft-Softimage,
the
> > > company
> > > assured Syn'x that it had removed "some or all" of
> > > Character
> > > from its software. But Syn'x charges that
> > > Microsoft-Softimage
> > > removed only one part of the code, and retained
eight
> > > other
> > > functions that Character's developers had registered
> with
> > > the
> > > French National Intellectual Property Institute.
> > > After Syn'x sent two letters to Softimage and
> Microsoft
> > > demanding the functions be removed, the company
filed
> > > suit. In
> > > 1998, Microsoft sold Softimage to Avid Technologies
> but
> > > remained responsible for the legal infringements of
> its
> > > former
> > > wholly owned subsidiary.
> > > Although Syn'x eventually fell into bankruptcy as a
> result
> > > of
> > > the case, the program's authors continued their
fight.
> > > Last
> > > September the Commercial Court of Nanterre, France,
> > > awarded
> > > Syn'x the judgment for damages and interest.
Microsoft
> has
> > > vowed to appeal the decision.
> > > Sales Pitch Rebuffed
> > > Microsoft's brush with piracy in France came to
light
> only
> > > this week. The case was overshadowed at the time by
> the
> > > focus
> > > on the September 11 terrorist attacks. But recently
a
> > > Peruvian
> > > congressman raised the issue in regard to a
Microsoft
> > > contract.
> > > Dr. Edgar David Villanueva Nuñez corresponded in
April
> > > with
> > > Microsoft's general manager in Peru over proposed
> > > legislation
> > > there that would require any software used by the
> Peruvian
> > > government to be open source (or "free software," as
> it's
> > > referred to in Peru). Microsoft representatives
> protested
> > > the
> > > plan, writing the congressman that producing
> open-source
> > > software makes a software company vulnerable to
piracy
> of
> > > its
> > > intellectual property by competitors. If Peru
mandates
> the
> > > use
> > > of open-source software by government agencies, it
> "would
> > > establish discriminatory and noncompetitive
practices
> in
> > > the
> > > contracting and purchasing" of software by public
> bodies,
> > > Microsoft stated.
> > > Nuñez was apparently not persuaded. He replied to
> > > Microsoft:
> > > "The inclusion of the intellectual property of
others
> in
> > > works
> > > claimed as one's own is not a practice that has been
> noted
> > > in
> > > the [open-source] software community; whereas,
> > > unfortunately,
> > > it has been in the area of proprietary software." He
> cited
> > > specifically Microsoft's conviction by the
Commercial
> > > Court of
> > > France, "for violation of intellectual property
> (piracy,
> > > to
> > > use the unfortunate term that your firm commonly
uses
> in
> > > its
> > > publicity)."
> > > Meanwhile, Microsoft remains one of the most
outspoken
> > > critics
> > > of piracy, aggressively pursuing violators and
urging
> > > authorities to crack down on anyone who illegally
> copies
> > > its
> > > software. The company even went so far as to include
> an
> > > Activation Wizard in Windows XP, which prevents
> customers
> > > from
> > > loading a single copy of XP onto more than one PC.
The
> > > company
> > > amended the policy after user outcry.
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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* Re: interesting story
` Alex Snow
@ ` Ameer Armaly
` Ryan Mann
1 sibling, 0 replies; 36+ messages in thread
From: Ameer Armaly @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Same here, but I'm not a free software freak.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Snow" <alex_snow@gmx.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: interesting story
> You can't image the disk. I think there's hard errors on it to prevent me
> from doing just that. The best thing to do is find out exactly what
> hjauth.exe does. That would be great If I could run 2k or xp on this box
> aspecially cause I'm running a server.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 6:47 PM
> Subject: Re: interesting story
>
>
> Hi Alex. Now there's one thing that I don't think has been cracked or
> avoided yet. I think I could use my box to image an nt authorization, and
> then copy it onto a fat formatted disk for others to use. Now as for
> tricking Winblows into thinking that jfw is registered under w2k, will
have
> to search the various reg keys for that one.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Alex Snow <alex_snow@gmx.net>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:33 PM
> Subject: Re: interesting story
>
>
> > So Do I. Can't use it though because I don't got jaws "NT
authorisation".
> > Maybe there's a crack for that also?
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romualt.dhs.org>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:28 PM
> > Subject: Re: interesting story
> >
> >
> > > Yeah. A friend of mine surprised me the other day by cheerfully
> informing
> > me that he's got a cd of a cracked copy of windows xp.
> > > Greg
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 03:22:42PM -0400, Alex Snow wrote:
> > > > Sounds just like Microcrap. Hypocritical.
> > > > And about that xp activation thing, it's been cracked.
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
> > > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 7:33 PM
> > > > Subject: interesting story
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi all. Hope this is of interest.
> > > >
> > > > Did Microsoft Flirt With Piracy?
> > > >
> > > > Complaints about open-source software policy
reveal
> > piracy
> > > > rap
> > > > in France.
> > > > Kim Zetter, special to PCWorld.com
> > > > Thursday, May 09, 2002
> > > > While Microsoft cracks down on software pirates
the
> > world
> > > > over, the software giant itself was quietly
> convicted
> > of
> > > > piracy charges in France last fall--and the case,
> > while
> > > > supposedly under appeal, may cost the company some
> > > > business.
> > > > The French division of Microsoft is facing a fine
of
> > about
> > > > $422,000 for illegal use of another company's
source
> > code
> > > > in
> > > > an animation program called Softimage 3D. The
> program
> > has
> > > > been
> > > > used to create such films as The Matrix, Men in
> Black,
> > and
> > > > Star Wars. But the dispute itself was cited by a
> > > > governmental
> > > > buyer who contends Microsoft should not complain
> about
> > > > pirates
> > > > when it is guilty of the same transgression.
> Microsoft
> > did
> > > > not
> > > > respond to requests for comment.
> > > > Borrowed Code
> > > > The issue started in 1995 when Microsoft France
> > purchased
> > > > Softimage, a Canadian company that developed the
3D
> > CGI
> > > > animation program Softimage 3D. The acquired
company
> > was
> > > > accused of illegally lifting source code from a
> > > > proprietary
> > > > program called Character, developed by the owners
of
> > Syn'x
> > > > Relief, a company near Paris.
> > > > In 1994, Softimage had negotiated with Syn'x about
> > > > integrating
> > > > parts of the Character program into Softimage 3D.
> But
> > the
> > > > deal
> > > > fell through when Softimage demanded all rights to
> the
> > > > code,
> > > > according to a report in PC World Malta. In 1995,
> when
> > > > Syn'x
> > > > severed its relationship with Microsoft-Softimage,
> the
> > > > company
> > > > assured Syn'x that it had removed "some or all" of
> > > > Character
> > > > from its software. But Syn'x charges that
> > > > Microsoft-Softimage
> > > > removed only one part of the code, and retained
> eight
> > > > other
> > > > functions that Character's developers had
registered
> > with
> > > > the
> > > > French National Intellectual Property Institute.
> > > > After Syn'x sent two letters to Softimage and
> > Microsoft
> > > > demanding the functions be removed, the company
> filed
> > > > suit. In
> > > > 1998, Microsoft sold Softimage to Avid
Technologies
> > but
> > > > remained responsible for the legal infringements
of
> > its
> > > > former
> > > > wholly owned subsidiary.
> > > > Although Syn'x eventually fell into bankruptcy as
a
> > result
> > > > of
> > > > the case, the program's authors continued their
> fight.
> > > > Last
> > > > September the Commercial Court of Nanterre,
France,
> > > > awarded
> > > > Syn'x the judgment for damages and interest.
> Microsoft
> > has
> > > > vowed to appeal the decision.
> > > > Sales Pitch Rebuffed
> > > > Microsoft's brush with piracy in France came to
> light
> > only
> > > > this week. The case was overshadowed at the time
by
> > the
> > > > focus
> > > > on the September 11 terrorist attacks. But
recently
> a
> > > > Peruvian
> > > > congressman raised the issue in regard to a
> Microsoft
> > > > contract.
> > > > Dr. Edgar David Villanueva Nuñez corresponded in
> April
> > > > with
> > > > Microsoft's general manager in Peru over proposed
> > > > legislation
> > > > there that would require any software used by the
> > Peruvian
> > > > government to be open source (or "free software,"
as
> > it's
> > > > referred to in Peru). Microsoft representatives
> > protested
> > > > the
> > > > plan, writing the congressman that producing
> > open-source
> > > > software makes a software company vulnerable to
> piracy
> > of
> > > > its
> > > > intellectual property by competitors. If Peru
> mandates
> > the
> > > > use
> > > > of open-source software by government agencies, it
> > "would
> > > > establish discriminatory and noncompetitive
> practices
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > contracting and purchasing" of software by public
> > bodies,
> > > > Microsoft stated.
> > > > Nuñez was apparently not persuaded. He replied to
> > > > Microsoft:
> > > > "The inclusion of the intellectual property of
> others
> > in
> > > > works
> > > > claimed as one's own is not a practice that has
been
> > noted
> > > > in
> > > > the [open-source] software community; whereas,
> > > > unfortunately,
> > > > it has been in the area of proprietary software."
He
> > cited
> > > > specifically Microsoft's conviction by the
> Commercial
> > > > Court of
> > > > France, "for violation of intellectual property
> > (piracy,
> > > > to
> > > > use the unfortunate term that your firm commonly
> uses
> > in
> > > > its
> > > > publicity)."
> > > > Meanwhile, Microsoft remains one of the most
> outspoken
> > > > critics
> > > > of piracy, aggressively pursuing violators and
> urging
> > > > authorities to crack down on anyone who illegally
> > copies
> > > > its
> > > > software. The company even went so far as to
include
> > an
> > > > Activation Wizard in Windows XP, which prevents
> > customers
> > > > from
> > > > loading a single copy of XP onto more than one PC.
> The
> > > > company
> > > > amended the policy after user outcry.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>
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* Re: interesting story
` Ameer Armaly
@ ` Igor Gueths
` Ameer Armaly
` Alex Snow
0 siblings, 2 replies; 36+ messages in thread
From: Igor Gueths @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Oh Well. Just goes to show you how crappy the registry is. Will have to check out jfw.cps in a hexeditor sometime to see if I can figure out what flag is set and modify it.
----- Original Message -----
From: Ameer Armaly <Ameer_Armaly@hotmail.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 8:18 PM
Subject: Re: interesting story
> it's not a reg key. It's a flag in the auth file.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 6:47 PM
> Subject: Re: interesting story
>
>
> Hi Alex. Now there's one thing that I don't think has been cracked or
> avoided yet. I think I could use my box to image an nt authorization, and
> then copy it onto a fat formatted disk for others to use. Now as for
> tricking Winblows into thinking that jfw is registered under w2k, will have
> to search the various reg keys for that one.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Alex Snow <alex_snow@gmx.net>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:33 PM
> Subject: Re: interesting story
>
>
> > So Do I. Can't use it though because I don't got jaws "NT authorisation".
> > Maybe there's a crack for that also?
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romualt.dhs.org>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:28 PM
> > Subject: Re: interesting story
> >
> >
> > > Yeah. A friend of mine surprised me the other day by cheerfully
> informing
> > me that he's got a cd of a cracked copy of windows xp.
> > > Greg
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 03:22:42PM -0400, Alex Snow wrote:
> > > > Sounds just like Microcrap. Hypocritical.
> > > > And about that xp activation thing, it's been cracked.
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
> > > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 7:33 PM
> > > > Subject: interesting story
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi all. Hope this is of interest.
> > > >
> > > > Did Microsoft Flirt With Piracy?
> > > >
> > > > Complaints about open-source software policy reveal
> > piracy
> > > > rap
> > > > in France.
> > > > Kim Zetter, special to PCWorld.com
> > > > Thursday, May 09, 2002
> > > > While Microsoft cracks down on software pirates the
> > world
> > > > over, the software giant itself was quietly
> convicted
> > of
> > > > piracy charges in France last fall--and the case,
> > while
> > > > supposedly under appeal, may cost the company some
> > > > business.
> > > > The French division of Microsoft is facing a fine of
> > about
> > > > $422,000 for illegal use of another company's source
> > code
> > > > in
> > > > an animation program called Softimage 3D. The
> program
> > has
> > > > been
> > > > used to create such films as The Matrix, Men in
> Black,
> > and
> > > > Star Wars. But the dispute itself was cited by a
> > > > governmental
> > > > buyer who contends Microsoft should not complain
> about
> > > > pirates
> > > > when it is guilty of the same transgression.
> Microsoft
> > did
> > > > not
> > > > respond to requests for comment.
> > > > Borrowed Code
> > > > The issue started in 1995 when Microsoft France
> > purchased
> > > > Softimage, a Canadian company that developed the 3D
> > CGI
> > > > animation program Softimage 3D. The acquired company
> > was
> > > > accused of illegally lifting source code from a
> > > > proprietary
> > > > program called Character, developed by the owners of
> > Syn'x
> > > > Relief, a company near Paris.
> > > > In 1994, Softimage had negotiated with Syn'x about
> > > > integrating
> > > > parts of the Character program into Softimage 3D.
> But
> > the
> > > > deal
> > > > fell through when Softimage demanded all rights to
> the
> > > > code,
> > > > according to a report in PC World Malta. In 1995,
> when
> > > > Syn'x
> > > > severed its relationship with Microsoft-Softimage,
> the
> > > > company
> > > > assured Syn'x that it had removed "some or all" of
> > > > Character
> > > > from its software. But Syn'x charges that
> > > > Microsoft-Softimage
> > > > removed only one part of the code, and retained
> eight
> > > > other
> > > > functions that Character's developers had registered
> > with
> > > > the
> > > > French National Intellectual Property Institute.
> > > > After Syn'x sent two letters to Softimage and
> > Microsoft
> > > > demanding the functions be removed, the company
> filed
> > > > suit. In
> > > > 1998, Microsoft sold Softimage to Avid Technologies
> > but
> > > > remained responsible for the legal infringements of
> > its
> > > > former
> > > > wholly owned subsidiary.
> > > > Although Syn'x eventually fell into bankruptcy as a
> > result
> > > > of
> > > > the case, the program's authors continued their
> fight.
> > > > Last
> > > > September the Commercial Court of Nanterre, France,
> > > > awarded
> > > > Syn'x the judgment for damages and interest.
> Microsoft
> > has
> > > > vowed to appeal the decision.
> > > > Sales Pitch Rebuffed
> > > > Microsoft's brush with piracy in France came to
> light
> > only
> > > > this week. The case was overshadowed at the time by
> > the
> > > > focus
> > > > on the September 11 terrorist attacks. But recently
> a
> > > > Peruvian
> > > > congressman raised the issue in regard to a
> Microsoft
> > > > contract.
> > > > Dr. Edgar David Villanueva Nuñez corresponded in
> April
> > > > with
> > > > Microsoft's general manager in Peru over proposed
> > > > legislation
> > > > there that would require any software used by the
> > Peruvian
> > > > government to be open source (or "free software," as
> > it's
> > > > referred to in Peru). Microsoft representatives
> > protested
> > > > the
> > > > plan, writing the congressman that producing
> > open-source
> > > > software makes a software company vulnerable to
> piracy
> > of
> > > > its
> > > > intellectual property by competitors. If Peru
> mandates
> > the
> > > > use
> > > > of open-source software by government agencies, it
> > "would
> > > > establish discriminatory and noncompetitive
> practices
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > contracting and purchasing" of software by public
> > bodies,
> > > > Microsoft stated.
> > > > Nuñez was apparently not persuaded. He replied to
> > > > Microsoft:
> > > > "The inclusion of the intellectual property of
> others
> > in
> > > > works
> > > > claimed as one's own is not a practice that has been
> > noted
> > > > in
> > > > the [open-source] software community; whereas,
> > > > unfortunately,
> > > > it has been in the area of proprietary software." He
> > cited
> > > > specifically Microsoft's conviction by the
> Commercial
> > > > Court of
> > > > France, "for violation of intellectual property
> > (piracy,
> > > > to
> > > > use the unfortunate term that your firm commonly
> uses
> > in
> > > > its
> > > > publicity)."
> > > > Meanwhile, Microsoft remains one of the most
> outspoken
> > > > critics
> > > > of piracy, aggressively pursuing violators and
> urging
> > > > authorities to crack down on anyone who illegally
> > copies
> > > > its
> > > > software. The company even went so far as to include
> > an
> > > > Activation Wizard in Windows XP, which prevents
> > customers
> > > > from
> > > > loading a single copy of XP onto more than one PC.
> The
> > > > company
> > > > amended the policy after user outcry.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>
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* Re: interesting story
` Igor Gueths
@ ` Ameer Armaly
` windblows, was: " Gregory Nowak
` Alex Snow
1 sibling, 1 reply; 36+ messages in thread
From: Ameer Armaly @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Why not just save up and buy the support? I know it's stupid, but it's
legal. I'd rather abide by the law, rather than have everything I wanted by
getting it the hard way.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: interesting story
Oh Well. Just goes to show you how crappy the registry is. Will have to
check out jfw.cps in a hexeditor sometime to see if I can figure out what
flag is set and modify it.
----- Original Message -----
From: Ameer Armaly <Ameer_Armaly@hotmail.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 8:18 PM
Subject: Re: interesting story
> it's not a reg key. It's a flag in the auth file.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 6:47 PM
> Subject: Re: interesting story
>
>
> Hi Alex. Now there's one thing that I don't think has been cracked or
> avoided yet. I think I could use my box to image an nt authorization, and
> then copy it onto a fat formatted disk for others to use. Now as for
> tricking Winblows into thinking that jfw is registered under w2k, will
have
> to search the various reg keys for that one.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Alex Snow <alex_snow@gmx.net>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:33 PM
> Subject: Re: interesting story
>
>
> > So Do I. Can't use it though because I don't got jaws "NT
authorisation".
> > Maybe there's a crack for that also?
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romualt.dhs.org>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:28 PM
> > Subject: Re: interesting story
> >
> >
> > > Yeah. A friend of mine surprised me the other day by cheerfully
> informing
> > me that he's got a cd of a cracked copy of windows xp.
> > > Greg
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 03:22:42PM -0400, Alex Snow wrote:
> > > > Sounds just like Microcrap. Hypocritical.
> > > > And about that xp activation thing, it's been cracked.
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
> > > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 7:33 PM
> > > > Subject: interesting story
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi all. Hope this is of interest.
> > > >
> > > > Did Microsoft Flirt With Piracy?
> > > >
> > > > Complaints about open-source software policy
reveal
> > piracy
> > > > rap
> > > > in France.
> > > > Kim Zetter, special to PCWorld.com
> > > > Thursday, May 09, 2002
> > > > While Microsoft cracks down on software pirates
the
> > world
> > > > over, the software giant itself was quietly
> convicted
> > of
> > > > piracy charges in France last fall--and the case,
> > while
> > > > supposedly under appeal, may cost the company some
> > > > business.
> > > > The French division of Microsoft is facing a fine
of
> > about
> > > > $422,000 for illegal use of another company's
source
> > code
> > > > in
> > > > an animation program called Softimage 3D. The
> program
> > has
> > > > been
> > > > used to create such films as The Matrix, Men in
> Black,
> > and
> > > > Star Wars. But the dispute itself was cited by a
> > > > governmental
> > > > buyer who contends Microsoft should not complain
> about
> > > > pirates
> > > > when it is guilty of the same transgression.
> Microsoft
> > did
> > > > not
> > > > respond to requests for comment.
> > > > Borrowed Code
> > > > The issue started in 1995 when Microsoft France
> > purchased
> > > > Softimage, a Canadian company that developed the
3D
> > CGI
> > > > animation program Softimage 3D. The acquired
company
> > was
> > > > accused of illegally lifting source code from a
> > > > proprietary
> > > > program called Character, developed by the owners
of
> > Syn'x
> > > > Relief, a company near Paris.
> > > > In 1994, Softimage had negotiated with Syn'x about
> > > > integrating
> > > > parts of the Character program into Softimage 3D.
> But
> > the
> > > > deal
> > > > fell through when Softimage demanded all rights to
> the
> > > > code,
> > > > according to a report in PC World Malta. In 1995,
> when
> > > > Syn'x
> > > > severed its relationship with Microsoft-Softimage,
> the
> > > > company
> > > > assured Syn'x that it had removed "some or all" of
> > > > Character
> > > > from its software. But Syn'x charges that
> > > > Microsoft-Softimage
> > > > removed only one part of the code, and retained
> eight
> > > > other
> > > > functions that Character's developers had
registered
> > with
> > > > the
> > > > French National Intellectual Property Institute.
> > > > After Syn'x sent two letters to Softimage and
> > Microsoft
> > > > demanding the functions be removed, the company
> filed
> > > > suit. In
> > > > 1998, Microsoft sold Softimage to Avid
Technologies
> > but
> > > > remained responsible for the legal infringements
of
> > its
> > > > former
> > > > wholly owned subsidiary.
> > > > Although Syn'x eventually fell into bankruptcy as
a
> > result
> > > > of
> > > > the case, the program's authors continued their
> fight.
> > > > Last
> > > > September the Commercial Court of Nanterre, France
,
> > > > awarded
> > > > Syn'x the judgment for damages and interest.
> Microsoft
> > has
> > > > vowed to appeal the decision.
> > > > Sales Pitch Rebuffed
> > > > Microsoft's brush with piracy in France came to
> light
> > only
> > > > this week. The case was overshadowed at the time
by
> > the
> > > > focus
> > > > on the September 11 terrorist attacks. But
recently
> a
> > > > Peruvian
> > > > congressman raised the issue in regard to a
> Microsoft
> > > > contract.
> > > > Dr. Edgar David Villanueva Nuñez corresponded in
> April
> > > > with
> > > > Microsoft's general manager in Peru over proposed
> > > > legislation
> > > > there that would require any software used by the
> > Peruvian
> > > > government to be open source (or "free software,"
as
> > it's
> > > > referred to in Peru). Microsoft representatives
> > protested
> > > > the
> > > > plan, writing the congressman that producing
> > open-source
> > > > software makes a software company vulnerable to
> piracy
> > of
> > > > its
> > > > intellectual property by competitors. If Peru
> mandates
> > the
> > > > use
> > > > of open-source software by government agencies, it
> > "would
> > > > establish discriminatory and noncompetitive
> practices
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > contracting and purchasing" of software by public
> > bodies,
> > > > Microsoft stated.
> > > > Nuñez was apparently not persuaded. He replied to
> > > > Microsoft:
> > > > "The inclusion of the intellectual property of
> others
> > in
> > > > works
> > > > claimed as one's own is not a practice that has
been
> > noted
> > > > in
> > > > the [open-source] software community; whereas,
> > > > unfortunately,
> > > > it has been in the area of proprietary software."
He
> > cited
> > > > specifically Microsoft's conviction by the
> Commercial
> > > > Court of
> > > > France, "for violation of intellectual property
> > (piracy,
> > > > to
> > > > use the unfortunate term that your firm commonly
> uses
> > in
> > > > its
> > > > publicity)."
> > > > Meanwhile, Microsoft remains one of the most
> outspoken
> > > > critics
> > > > of piracy, aggressively pursuing violators and
> urging
> > > > authorities to crack down on anyone who illegally
> > copies
> > > > its
> > > > software. The company even went so far as to
include
> > an
> > > > Activation Wizard in Windows XP, which prevents
> > customers
> > > > from
> > > > loading a single copy of XP onto more than one PC.
> The
> > > > company
> > > > amended the policy after user outcry.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
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> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
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> > >
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> >
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* Re: interesting story
` Alex Snow
` Gregory Nowak
` Igor Gueths
@ ` Octavian Rasnita
2 siblings, 0 replies; 36+ messages in thread
From: Octavian Rasnita @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
That activation is not important at all for those who want to use pirated
software.
There is a Windows XP version (Corporate) that doesn't require that
activation. Of course this version is used.
Teddy,
orasnita@home.ro
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Snow" <alex_snow@gmx.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:22 PM
Subject: Re: interesting story
Sounds just like Microcrap. Hypocritical.
And about that xp activation thing, it's been cracked.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 7:33 PM
Subject: interesting story
Hi all. Hope this is of interest.
Did Microsoft Flirt With Piracy?
Complaints about open-source software policy reveal piracy
rap
in France.
Kim Zetter, special to PCWorld.com
Thursday, May 09, 2002
While Microsoft cracks down on software pirates the world
over, the software giant itself was quietly convicted of
piracy charges in France last fall--and the case, while
supposedly under appeal, may cost the company some
business.
The French division of Microsoft is facing a fine of about
$422,000 for illegal use of another company's source code
in
an animation program called Softimage 3D. The program has
been
used to create such films as The Matrix, Men in Black, and
Star Wars. But the dispute itself was cited by a
governmental
buyer who contends Microsoft should not complain about
pirates
when it is guilty of the same transgression. Microsoft did
not
respond to requests for comment.
Borrowed Code
The issue started in 1995 when Microsoft France purchased
Softimage, a Canadian company that developed the 3D CGI
animation program Softimage 3D. The acquired company was
accused of illegally lifting source code from a
proprietary
program called Character, developed by the owners of Syn'x
Relief, a company near Paris.
In 1994, Softimage had negotiated with Syn'x about
integrating
parts of the Character program into Softimage 3D. But the
deal
fell through when Softimage demanded all rights to the
code,
according to a report in PC World Malta. In 1995, when
Syn'x
severed its relationship with Microsoft-Softimage, the
company
assured Syn'x that it had removed "some or all" of
Character
from its software. But Syn'x charges that
Microsoft-Softimage
removed only one part of the code, and retained eight
other
functions that Character's developers had registered with
the
French National Intellectual Property Institute.
After Syn'x sent two letters to Softimage and Microsoft
demanding the functions be removed, the company filed
suit. In
1998, Microsoft sold Softimage to Avid Technologies but
remained responsible for the legal infringements of its
former
wholly owned subsidiary.
Although Syn'x eventually fell into bankruptcy as a result
of
the case, the program's authors continued their fight.
Last
September the Commercial Court of Nanterre, France,
awarded
Syn'x the judgment for damages and interest. Microsoft has
vowed to appeal the decision.
Sales Pitch Rebuffed
Microsoft's brush with piracy in France came to light only
this week. The case was overshadowed at the time by the
focus
on the September 11 terrorist attacks. But recently a
Peruvian
congressman raised the issue in regard to a Microsoft
contract.
Dr. Edgar David Villanueva Nuñez corresponded in April
with
Microsoft's general manager in Peru over proposed
legislation
there that would require any software used by the Peruvian
government to be open source (or "free software," as it's
referred to in Peru). Microsoft representatives protested
the
plan, writing the congressman that producing open-source
software makes a software company vulnerable to piracy of
its
intellectual property by competitors. If Peru mandates the
use
of open-source software by government agencies, it "would
establish discriminatory and noncompetitive practices in
the
contracting and purchasing" of software by public bodies,
Microsoft stated.
Nuñez was apparently not persuaded. He replied to
Microsoft:
"The inclusion of the intellectual property of others in
works
claimed as one's own is not a practice that has been noted
in
the [open-source] software community; whereas,
unfortunately,
it has been in the area of proprietary software." He cited
specifically Microsoft's conviction by the Commercial
Court of
France, "for violation of intellectual property (piracy,
to
use the unfortunate term that your firm commonly uses in
its
publicity)."
Meanwhile, Microsoft remains one of the most outspoken
critics
of piracy, aggressively pursuing violators and urging
authorities to crack down on anyone who illegally copies
its
software. The company even went so far as to include an
Activation Wizard in Windows XP, which prevents customers
from
loading a single copy of XP onto more than one PC. The
company
amended the policy after user outcry.
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* Re: interesting story
` Alex Snow
` Igor Gueths
@ ` Octavian Rasnita
1 sibling, 0 replies; 36+ messages in thread
From: Octavian Rasnita @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
So do I, but because Windows XP doesn't support so much hardware like
Windows 2000 and because it has some problems with some DOS programs.
Teddy,
orasnita@home.ro
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Snow" <alex_snow@gmx.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 10:33 PM
Subject: Re: interesting story
So Do I. Can't use it though because I don't got jaws "NT authorisation".
Maybe there's a crack for that also?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romualt.dhs.org>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:28 PM
Subject: Re: interesting story
> Yeah. A friend of mine surprised me the other day by cheerfully informing
me that he's got a cd of a cracked copy of windows xp.
> Greg
>
>
> On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 03:22:42PM -0400, Alex Snow wrote:
> > Sounds just like Microcrap. Hypocritical.
> > And about that xp activation thing, it's been cracked.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 7:33 PM
> > Subject: interesting story
> >
> >
> > Hi all. Hope this is of interest.
> >
> > Did Microsoft Flirt With Piracy?
> >
> > Complaints about open-source software policy reveal
piracy
> > rap
> > in France.
> > Kim Zetter, special to PCWorld.com
> > Thursday, May 09, 2002
> > While Microsoft cracks down on software pirates the
world
> > over, the software giant itself was quietly convicted
of
> > piracy charges in France last fall--and the case,
while
> > supposedly under appeal, may cost the company some
> > business.
> > The French division of Microsoft is facing a fine of
about
> > $422,000 for illegal use of another company's source
code
> > in
> > an animation program called Softimage 3D. The program
has
> > been
> > used to create such films as The Matrix, Men in Black,
and
> > Star Wars. But the dispute itself was cited by a
> > governmental
> > buyer who contends Microsoft should not complain about
> > pirates
> > when it is guilty of the same transgression. Microsoft
did
> > not
> > respond to requests for comment.
> > Borrowed Code
> > The issue started in 1995 when Microsoft France
purchased
> > Softimage, a Canadian company that developed the 3D
CGI
> > animation program Softimage 3D. The acquired company
was
> > accused of illegally lifting source code from a
> > proprietary
> > program called Character, developed by the owners of
Syn'x
> > Relief, a company near Paris.
> > In 1994, Softimage had negotiated with Syn'x about
> > integrating
> > parts of the Character program into Softimage 3D. But
the
> > deal
> > fell through when Softimage demanded all rights to the
> > code,
> > according to a report in PC World Malta. In 1995, when
> > Syn'x
> > severed its relationship with Microsoft-Softimage, the
> > company
> > assured Syn'x that it had removed "some or all" of
> > Character
> > from its software. But Syn'x charges that
> > Microsoft-Softimage
> > removed only one part of the code, and retained eight
> > other
> > functions that Character's developers had registered
with
> > the
> > French National Intellectual Property Institute.
> > After Syn'x sent two letters to Softimage and
Microsoft
> > demanding the functions be removed, the company filed
> > suit. In
> > 1998, Microsoft sold Softimage to Avid Technologies
but
> > remained responsible for the legal infringements of
its
> > former
> > wholly owned subsidiary.
> > Although Syn'x eventually fell into bankruptcy as a
result
> > of
> > the case, the program's authors continued their fight.
> > Last
> > September the Commercial Court of Nanterre, France,
> > awarded
> > Syn'x the judgment for damages and interest. Microsoft
has
> > vowed to appeal the decision.
> > Sales Pitch Rebuffed
> > Microsoft's brush with piracy in France came to light
only
> > this week. The case was overshadowed at the time by
the
> > focus
> > on the September 11 terrorist attacks. But recently a
> > Peruvian
> > congressman raised the issue in regard to a Microsoft
> > contract.
> > Dr. Edgar David Villanueva Nuñez corresponded in April
> > with
> > Microsoft's general manager in Peru over proposed
> > legislation
> > there that would require any software used by the
Peruvian
> > government to be open source (or "free software," as
it's
> > referred to in Peru). Microsoft representatives
protested
> > the
> > plan, writing the congressman that producing
open-source
> > software makes a software company vulnerable to piracy
of
> > its
> > intellectual property by competitors. If Peru mandates
the
> > use
> > of open-source software by government agencies, it
"would
> > establish discriminatory and noncompetitive practices
in
> > the
> > contracting and purchasing" of software by public
bodies,
> > Microsoft stated.
> > Nuñez was apparently not persuaded. He replied to
> > Microsoft:
> > "The inclusion of the intellectual property of others
in
> > works
> > claimed as one's own is not a practice that has been
noted
> > in
> > the [open-source] software community; whereas,
> > unfortunately,
> > it has been in the area of proprietary software." He
cited
> > specifically Microsoft's conviction by the Commercial
> > Court of
> > France, "for violation of intellectual property
(piracy,
> > to
> > use the unfortunate term that your firm commonly uses
in
> > its
> > publicity)."
> > Meanwhile, Microsoft remains one of the most outspoken
> > critics
> > of piracy, aggressively pursuing violators and urging
> > authorities to crack down on anyone who illegally
copies
> > its
> > software. The company even went so far as to include
an
> > Activation Wizard in Windows XP, which prevents
customers
> > from
> > loading a single copy of XP onto more than one PC. The
> > company
> > amended the policy after user outcry.
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
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>
> _______________________________________________
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* Re: interesting story
` Alex Snow
@ ` Octavian Rasnita
` Alex Snow
` Shaun Oliver
1 sibling, 1 reply; 36+ messages in thread
From: Octavian Rasnita @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Do you know about Teledisk?
It is used for creating images of floppy disks with extra sectors and some
sectors formatted with another density.
www.shaftoffice.com.
Teddy,
orasnita@home.ro
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Snow" <alex_snow@gmx.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 3:05 AM
Subject: Re: interesting story
You can't image the disk. I think there's hard errors on it to prevent me
from doing just that. The best thing to do is find out exactly what
hjauth.exe does. That would be great If I could run 2k or xp on this box
aspecially cause I'm running a server.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 6:47 PM
Subject: Re: interesting story
Hi Alex. Now there's one thing that I don't think has been cracked or
avoided yet. I think I could use my box to image an nt authorization, and
then copy it onto a fat formatted disk for others to use. Now as for
tricking Winblows into thinking that jfw is registered under w2k, will have
to search the various reg keys for that one.
----- Original Message -----
From: Alex Snow <alex_snow@gmx.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: interesting story
> So Do I. Can't use it though because I don't got jaws "NT authorisation".
> Maybe there's a crack for that also?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romualt.dhs.org>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:28 PM
> Subject: Re: interesting story
>
>
> > Yeah. A friend of mine surprised me the other day by cheerfully
informing
> me that he's got a cd of a cracked copy of windows xp.
> > Greg
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 03:22:42PM -0400, Alex Snow wrote:
> > > Sounds just like Microcrap. Hypocritical.
> > > And about that xp activation thing, it's been cracked.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
> > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 7:33 PM
> > > Subject: interesting story
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi all. Hope this is of interest.
> > >
> > > Did Microsoft Flirt With Piracy?
> > >
> > > Complaints about open-source software policy reveal
> piracy
> > > rap
> > > in France.
> > > Kim Zetter, special to PCWorld.com
> > > Thursday, May 09, 2002
> > > While Microsoft cracks down on software pirates the
> world
> > > over, the software giant itself was quietly
convicted
> of
> > > piracy charges in France last fall--and the case,
> while
> > > supposedly under appeal, may cost the company some
> > > business.
> > > The French division of Microsoft is facing a fine of
> about
> > > $422,000 for illegal use of another company's source
> code
> > > in
> > > an animation program called Softimage 3D. The
program
> has
> > > been
> > > used to create such films as The Matrix, Men in
Black,
> and
> > > Star Wars. But the dispute itself was cited by a
> > > governmental
> > > buyer who contends Microsoft should not complain
about
> > > pirates
> > > when it is guilty of the same transgression.
Microsoft
> did
> > > not
> > > respond to requests for comment.
> > > Borrowed Code
> > > The issue started in 1995 when Microsoft France
> purchased
> > > Softimage, a Canadian company that developed the 3D
> CGI
> > > animation program Softimage 3D. The acquired company
> was
> > > accused of illegally lifting source code from a
> > > proprietary
> > > program called Character, developed by the owners of
> Syn'x
> > > Relief, a company near Paris.
> > > In 1994, Softimage had negotiated with Syn'x about
> > > integrating
> > > parts of the Character program into Softimage 3D.
But
> the
> > > deal
> > > fell through when Softimage demanded all rights to
the
> > > code,
> > > according to a report in PC World Malta. In 1995,
when
> > > Syn'x
> > > severed its relationship with Microsoft-Softimage,
the
> > > company
> > > assured Syn'x that it had removed "some or all" of
> > > Character
> > > from its software. But Syn'x charges that
> > > Microsoft-Softimage
> > > removed only one part of the code, and retained
eight
> > > other
> > > functions that Character's developers had registered
> with
> > > the
> > > French National Intellectual Property Institute.
> > > After Syn'x sent two letters to Softimage and
> Microsoft
> > > demanding the functions be removed, the company
filed
> > > suit. In
> > > 1998, Microsoft sold Softimage to Avid Technologies
> but
> > > remained responsible for the legal infringements of
> its
> > > former
> > > wholly owned subsidiary.
> > > Although Syn'x eventually fell into bankruptcy as a
> result
> > > of
> > > the case, the program's authors continued their
fight.
> > > Last
> > > September the Commercial Court of Nanterre, France,
> > > awarded
> > > Syn'x the judgment for damages and interest.
Microsoft
> has
> > > vowed to appeal the decision.
> > > Sales Pitch Rebuffed
> > > Microsoft's brush with piracy in France came to
light
> only
> > > this week. The case was overshadowed at the time by
> the
> > > focus
> > > on the September 11 terrorist attacks. But recently
a
> > > Peruvian
> > > congressman raised the issue in regard to a
Microsoft
> > > contract.
> > > Dr. Edgar David Villanueva Nuñez corresponded in
April
> > > with
> > > Microsoft's general manager in Peru over proposed
> > > legislation
> > > there that would require any software used by the
> Peruvian
> > > government to be open source (or "free software," as
> it's
> > > referred to in Peru). Microsoft representatives
> protested
> > > the
> > > plan, writing the congressman that producing
> open-source
> > > software makes a software company vulnerable to
piracy
> of
> > > its
> > > intellectual property by competitors. If Peru
mandates
> the
> > > use
> > > of open-source software by government agencies, it
> "would
> > > establish discriminatory and noncompetitive
practices
> in
> > > the
> > > contracting and purchasing" of software by public
> bodies,
> > > Microsoft stated.
> > > Nuñez was apparently not persuaded. He replied to
> > > Microsoft:
> > > "The inclusion of the intellectual property of
others
> in
> > > works
> > > claimed as one's own is not a practice that has been
> noted
> > > in
> > > the [open-source] software community; whereas,
> > > unfortunately,
> > > it has been in the area of proprietary software." He
> cited
> > > specifically Microsoft's conviction by the
Commercial
> > > Court of
> > > France, "for violation of intellectual property
> (piracy,
> > > to
> > > use the unfortunate term that your firm commonly
uses
> in
> > > its
> > > publicity)."
> > > Meanwhile, Microsoft remains one of the most
outspoken
> > > critics
> > > of piracy, aggressively pursuing violators and
urging
> > > authorities to crack down on anyone who illegally
> copies
> > > its
> > > software. The company even went so far as to include
> an
> > > Activation Wizard in Windows XP, which prevents
> customers
> > > from
> > > loading a single copy of XP onto more than one PC.
The
> > > company
> > > amended the policy after user outcry.
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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* Re: interesting story
` Igor Gueths
` (4 preceding siblings ...)
` Ameer Armaly
@ ` Octavian Rasnita
` Toby Fisher
5 siblings, 1 reply; 36+ messages in thread
From: Octavian Rasnita @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Yes you can do it under Linux but I am not a Linux expert so I don't know
exactly how it was done.
There are no Registry settings that need to be changed.
There is only that key file from your hard disk that needs to be copied.
Teddy,
orasnita@home.ro
----- Original Message -----
From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 1:47 AM
Subject: Re: interesting story
Hi Alex. Now there's one thing that I don't think has been cracked or
avoided yet. I think I could use my box to image an nt authorization, and
then copy it onto a fat formatted disk for others to use. Now as for
tricking Winblows into thinking that jfw is registered under w2k, will have
to search the various reg keys for that one.
----- Original Message -----
From: Alex Snow <alex_snow@gmx.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: interesting story
> So Do I. Can't use it though because I don't got jaws "NT authorisation".
> Maybe there's a crack for that also?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romualt.dhs.org>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:28 PM
> Subject: Re: interesting story
>
>
> > Yeah. A friend of mine surprised me the other day by cheerfully
informing
> me that he's got a cd of a cracked copy of windows xp.
> > Greg
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 03:22:42PM -0400, Alex Snow wrote:
> > > Sounds just like Microcrap. Hypocritical.
> > > And about that xp activation thing, it's been cracked.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
> > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 7:33 PM
> > > Subject: interesting story
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi all. Hope this is of interest.
> > >
> > > Did Microsoft Flirt With Piracy?
> > >
> > > Complaints about open-source software policy reveal
> piracy
> > > rap
> > > in France.
> > > Kim Zetter, special to PCWorld.com
> > > Thursday, May 09, 2002
> > > While Microsoft cracks down on software pirates the
> world
> > > over, the software giant itself was quietly
convicted
> of
> > > piracy charges in France last fall--and the case,
> while
> > > supposedly under appeal, may cost the company some
> > > business.
> > > The French division of Microsoft is facing a fine of
> about
> > > $422,000 for illegal use of another company's source
> code
> > > in
> > > an animation program called Softimage 3D. The
program
> has
> > > been
> > > used to create such films as The Matrix, Men in
Black,
> and
> > > Star Wars. But the dispute itself was cited by a
> > > governmental
> > > buyer who contends Microsoft should not complain
about
> > > pirates
> > > when it is guilty of the same transgression.
Microsoft
> did
> > > not
> > > respond to requests for comment.
> > > Borrowed Code
> > > The issue started in 1995 when Microsoft France
> purchased
> > > Softimage, a Canadian company that developed the 3D
> CGI
> > > animation program Softimage 3D. The acquired company
> was
> > > accused of illegally lifting source code from a
> > > proprietary
> > > program called Character, developed by the owners of
> Syn'x
> > > Relief, a company near Paris.
> > > In 1994, Softimage had negotiated with Syn'x about
> > > integrating
> > > parts of the Character program into Softimage 3D.
But
> the
> > > deal
> > > fell through when Softimage demanded all rights to
the
> > > code,
> > > according to a report in PC World Malta. In 1995,
when
> > > Syn'x
> > > severed its relationship with Microsoft-Softimage,
the
> > > company
> > > assured Syn'x that it had removed "some or all" of
> > > Character
> > > from its software. But Syn'x charges that
> > > Microsoft-Softimage
> > > removed only one part of the code, and retained
eight
> > > other
> > > functions that Character's developers had registered
> with
> > > the
> > > French National Intellectual Property Institute.
> > > After Syn'x sent two letters to Softimage and
> Microsoft
> > > demanding the functions be removed, the company
filed
> > > suit. In
> > > 1998, Microsoft sold Softimage to Avid Technologies
> but
> > > remained responsible for the legal infringements of
> its
> > > former
> > > wholly owned subsidiary.
> > > Although Syn'x eventually fell into bankruptcy as a
> result
> > > of
> > > the case, the program's authors continued their
fight.
> > > Last
> > > September the Commercial Court of Nanterre, France,
> > > awarded
> > > Syn'x the judgment for damages and interest.
Microsoft
> has
> > > vowed to appeal the decision.
> > > Sales Pitch Rebuffed
> > > Microsoft's brush with piracy in France came to
light
> only
> > > this week. The case was overshadowed at the time by
> the
> > > focus
> > > on the September 11 terrorist attacks. But recently
a
> > > Peruvian
> > > congressman raised the issue in regard to a
Microsoft
> > > contract.
> > > Dr. Edgar David Villanueva Nuñez corresponded in
April
> > > with
> > > Microsoft's general manager in Peru over proposed
> > > legislation
> > > there that would require any software used by the
> Peruvian
> > > government to be open source (or "free software," as
> it's
> > > referred to in Peru). Microsoft representatives
> protested
> > > the
> > > plan, writing the congressman that producing
> open-source
> > > software makes a software company vulnerable to
piracy
> of
> > > its
> > > intellectual property by competitors. If Peru
mandates
> the
> > > use
> > > of open-source software by government agencies, it
> "would
> > > establish discriminatory and noncompetitive
practices
> in
> > > the
> > > contracting and purchasing" of software by public
> bodies,
> > > Microsoft stated.
> > > Nuñez was apparently not persuaded. He replied to
> > > Microsoft:
> > > "The inclusion of the intellectual property of
others
> in
> > > works
> > > claimed as one's own is not a practice that has been
> noted
> > > in
> > > the [open-source] software community; whereas,
> > > unfortunately,
> > > it has been in the area of proprietary software." He
> cited
> > > specifically Microsoft's conviction by the
Commercial
> > > Court of
> > > France, "for violation of intellectual property
> (piracy,
> > > to
> > > use the unfortunate term that your firm commonly
uses
> in
> > > its
> > > publicity)."
> > > Meanwhile, Microsoft remains one of the most
outspoken
> > > critics
> > > of piracy, aggressively pursuing violators and
urging
> > > authorities to crack down on anyone who illegally
> copies
> > > its
> > > software. The company even went so far as to include
> an
> > > Activation Wizard in Windows XP, which prevents
> customers
> > > from
> > > loading a single copy of XP onto more than one PC.
The
> > > company
> > > amended the policy after user outcry.
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
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> >
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> >
>
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* windblows, was: Re: interesting story
` Ameer Armaly
@ ` Gregory Nowak
0 siblings, 0 replies; 36+ messages in thread
From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Whos law or laws are we talking about here, Microsoft's?
Greg
On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 08:51:05PM -0400, Ameer Armaly wrote:
> Why not just save up and buy the support? I know it's stupid, but it's
> legal. I'd rather abide by the law, rather than have everything I wanted by
> getting it the hard way.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 8:41 PM
> Subject: Re: interesting story
>
>
> Oh Well. Just goes to show you how crappy the registry is. Will have to
> check out jfw.cps in a hexeditor sometime to see if I can figure out what
> flag is set and modify it.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ameer Armaly <Ameer_Armaly@hotmail.com>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 8:18 PM
> Subject: Re: interesting story
>
>
> > it's not a reg key. It's a flag in the auth file.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 6:47 PM
> > Subject: Re: interesting story
> >
> >
> > Hi Alex. Now there's one thing that I don't think has been cracked or
> > avoided yet. I think I could use my box to image an nt authorization, and
> > then copy it onto a fat formatted disk for others to use. Now as for
> > tricking Winblows into thinking that jfw is registered under w2k, will
> have
> > to search the various reg keys for that one.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Alex Snow <alex_snow@gmx.net>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:33 PM
> > Subject: Re: interesting story
> >
> >
> > > So Do I. Can't use it though because I don't got jaws "NT
> authorisation".
> > > Maybe there's a crack for that also?
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romualt.dhs.org>
> > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:28 PM
> > > Subject: Re: interesting story
> > >
> > >
> > > > Yeah. A friend of mine surprised me the other day by cheerfully
> > informing
> > > me that he's got a cd of a cracked copy of windows xp.
> > > > Greg
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 03:22:42PM -0400, Alex Snow wrote:
> > > > > Sounds just like Microcrap. Hypocritical.
> > > > > And about that xp activation thing, it's been cracked.
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
> > > > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 7:33 PM
> > > > > Subject: interesting story
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi all. Hope this is of interest.
> > > > >
> > > > > Did Microsoft Flirt With Piracy?
> > > > >
> > > > > Complaints about open-source software policy
> reveal
> > > piracy
> > > > > rap
> > > > > in France.
> > > > > Kim Zetter, special to PCWorld.com
> > > > > Thursday, May 09, 2002
> > > > > While Microsoft cracks down on software pirates
> the
> > > world
> > > > > over, the software giant itself was quietly
> > convicted
> > > of
> > > > > piracy charges in France last fall--and the case,
> > > while
> > > > > supposedly under appeal, may cost the company some
> > > > > business.
> > > > > The French division of Microsoft is facing a fine
> of
> > > about
> > > > > $422,000 for illegal use of another company's
> source
> > > code
> > > > > in
> > > > > an animation program called Softimage 3D. The
> > program
> > > has
> > > > > been
> > > > > used to create such films as The Matrix, Men in
> > Black,
> > > and
> > > > > Star Wars. But the dispute itself was cited by a
> > > > > governmental
> > > > > buyer who contends Microsoft should not complain
> > about
> > > > > pirates
> > > > > when it is guilty of the same transgression.
> > Microsoft
> > > did
> > > > > not
> > > > > respond to requests for comment.
> > > > > Borrowed Code
> > > > > The issue started in 1995 when Microsoft France
> > > purchased
> > > > > Softimage, a Canadian company that developed the
> 3D
> > > CGI
> > > > > animation program Softimage 3D. The acquired
> company
> > > was
> > > > > accused of illegally lifting source code from a
> > > > > proprietary
> > > > > program called Character, developed by the owners
> of
> > > Syn'x
> > > > > Relief, a company near Paris.
> > > > > In 1994, Softimage had negotiated with Syn'x about
> > > > > integrating
> > > > > parts of the Character program into Softimage 3D.
> > But
> > > the
> > > > > deal
> > > > > fell through when Softimage demanded all rights to
> > the
> > > > > code,
> > > > > according to a report in PC World Malta. In 1995,
> > when
> > > > > Syn'x
> > > > > severed its relationship with Microsoft-Softimage,
> > the
> > > > > company
> > > > > assured Syn'x that it had removed "some or all" of
> > > > > Character
> > > > > from its software. But Syn'x charges that
> > > > > Microsoft-Softimage
> > > > > removed only one part of the code, and retained
> > eight
> > > > > other
> > > > > functions that Character's developers had
> registered
> > > with
> > > > > the
> > > > > French National Intellectual Property Institute.
> > > > > After Syn'x sent two letters to Softimage and
> > > Microsoft
> > > > > demanding the functions be removed, the company
> > filed
> > > > > suit. In
> > > > > 1998, Microsoft sold Softimage to Avid
> Technologies
> > > but
> > > > > remained responsible for the legal infringements
> of
> > > its
> > > > > former
> > > > > wholly owned subsidiary.
> > > > > Although Syn'x eventually fell into bankruptcy as
> a
> > > result
> > > > > of
> > > > > the case, the program's authors continued their
> > fight.
> > > > > Last
> > > > > September the Commercial Court of Nanterre, France
> ,
> > > > > awarded
> > > > > Syn'x the judgment for damages and interest.
> > Microsoft
> > > has
> > > > > vowed to appeal the decision.
> > > > > Sales Pitch Rebuffed
> > > > > Microsoft's brush with piracy in France came to
> > light
> > > only
> > > > > this week. The case was overshadowed at the time
> by
> > > the
> > > > > focus
> > > > > on the September 11 terrorist attacks. But
> recently
> > a
> > > > > Peruvian
> > > > > congressman raised the issue in regard to a
> > Microsoft
> > > > > contract.
> > > > > Dr. Edgar David Villanueva Nuñez corresponded in
> > April
> > > > > with
> > > > > Microsoft's general manager in Peru over proposed
> > > > > legislation
> > > > > there that would require any software used by the
> > > Peruvian
> > > > > government to be open source (or "free software,"
> as
> > > it's
> > > > > referred to in Peru). Microsoft representatives
> > > protested
> > > > > the
> > > > > plan, writing the congressman that producing
> > > open-source
> > > > > software makes a software company vulnerable to
> > piracy
> > > of
> > > > > its
> > > > > intellectual property by competitors. If Peru
> > mandates
> > > the
> > > > > use
> > > > > of open-source software by government agencies, it
> > > "would
> > > > > establish discriminatory and noncompetitive
> > practices
> > > in
> > > > > the
> > > > > contracting and purchasing" of software by public
> > > bodies,
> > > > > Microsoft stated.
> > > > > Nuñez was apparently not persuaded. He replied to
> > > > > Microsoft:
> > > > > "The inclusion of the intellectual property of
> > others
> > > in
> > > > > works
> > > > > claimed as one's own is not a practice that has
> been
> > > noted
> > > > > in
> > > > > the [open-source] software community; whereas,
> > > > > unfortunately,
> > > > > it has been in the area of proprietary software."
> He
> > > cited
> > > > > specifically Microsoft's conviction by the
> > Commercial
> > > > > Court of
> > > > > France, "for violation of intellectual property
> > > (piracy,
> > > > > to
> > > > > use the unfortunate term that your firm commonly
> > uses
> > > in
> > > > > its
> > > > > publicity)."
> > > > > Meanwhile, Microsoft remains one of the most
> > outspoken
> > > > > critics
> > > > > of piracy, aggressively pursuing violators and
> > urging
> > > > > authorities to crack down on anyone who illegally
> > > copies
> > > > > its
> > > > > software. The company even went so far as to
> include
> > > an
> > > > > Activation Wizard in Windows XP, which prevents
> > > customers
> > > > > from
> > > > > loading a single copy of XP onto more than one PC.
> > The
> > > > > company
> > > > > amended the policy after user outcry.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
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>
>
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* Re: interesting story
` Alex Snow
` Ameer Armaly
@ ` Ryan Mann
1 sibling, 0 replies; 36+ messages in thread
From: Ryan Mann @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Why do I keep getting this message?
On Wed, 15 May 2002, Alex Snow wrote:
> You can't image the disk. I think there's hard errors on it to prevent me
> from doing just that. The best thing to do is find out exactly what
> hjauth.exe does. That would be great If I could run 2k or xp on this box
> aspecially cause I'm running a server.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 6:47 PM
> Subject: Re: interesting story
>
>
> Hi Alex. Now there's one thing that I don't think has been cracked or
> avoided yet. I think I could use my box to image an nt authorization, and
> then copy it onto a fat formatted disk for others to use. Now as for
> tricking Winblows into thinking that jfw is registered under w2k, will have
> to search the various reg keys for that one.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Alex Snow <alex_snow@gmx.net>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:33 PM
> Subject: Re: interesting story
>
>
> > So Do I. Can't use it though because I don't got jaws "NT authorisation".
> > Maybe there's a crack for that also?
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romualt.dhs.org>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:28 PM
> > Subject: Re: interesting story
> >
> >
> > > Yeah. A friend of mine surprised me the other day by cheerfully
> informing
> > me that he's got a cd of a cracked copy of windows xp.
> > > Greg
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 03:22:42PM -0400, Alex Snow wrote:
> > > > Sounds just like Microcrap. Hypocritical.
> > > > And about that xp activation thing, it's been cracked.
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
> > > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 7:33 PM
> > > > Subject: interesting story
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi all. Hope this is of interest.
> > > >
> > > > Did Microsoft Flirt With Piracy?
> > > >
> > > > Complaints about open-source software policy reveal
> > piracy
> > > > rap
> > > > in France.
> > > > Kim Zetter, special to PCWorld.com
> > > > Thursday, May 09, 2002
> > > > While Microsoft cracks down on software pirates the
> > world
> > > > over, the software giant itself was quietly
> convicted
> > of
> > > > piracy charges in France last fall--and the case,
> > while
> > > > supposedly under appeal, may cost the company some
> > > > business.
> > > > The French division of Microsoft is facing a fine of
> > about
> > > > $422,000 for illegal use of another company's source
> > code
> > > > in
> > > > an animation program called Softimage 3D. The
> program
> > has
> > > > been
> > > > used to create such films as The Matrix, Men in
> Black,
> > and
> > > > Star Wars. But the dispute itself was cited by a
> > > > governmental
> > > > buyer who contends Microsoft should not complain
> about
> > > > pirates
> > > > when it is guilty of the same transgression.
> Microsoft
> > did
> > > > not
> > > > respond to requests for comment.
> > > > Borrowed Code
> > > > The issue started in 1995 when Microsoft France
> > purchased
> > > > Softimage, a Canadian company that developed the 3D
> > CGI
> > > > animation program Softimage 3D. The acquired company
> > was
> > > > accused of illegally lifting source code from a
> > > > proprietary
> > > > program called Character, developed by the owners of
> > Syn'x
> > > > Relief, a company near Paris.
> > > > In 1994, Softimage had negotiated with Syn'x about
> > > > integrating
> > > > parts of the Character program into Softimage 3D.
> But
> > the
> > > > deal
> > > > fell through when Softimage demanded all rights to
> the
> > > > code,
> > > > according to a report in PC World Malta. In 1995,
> when
> > > > Syn'x
> > > > severed its relationship with Microsoft-Softimage,
> the
> > > > company
> > > > assured Syn'x that it had removed "some or all" of
> > > > Character
> > > > from its software. But Syn'x charges that
> > > > Microsoft-Softimage
> > > > removed only one part of the code, and retained
> eight
> > > > other
> > > > functions that Character's developers had registered
> > with
> > > > the
> > > > French National Intellectual Property Institute.
> > > > After Syn'x sent two letters to Softimage and
> > Microsoft
> > > > demanding the functions be removed, the company
> filed
> > > > suit. In
> > > > 1998, Microsoft sold Softimage to Avid Technologies
> > but
> > > > remained responsible for the legal infringements of
> > its
> > > > former
> > > > wholly owned subsidiary.
> > > > Although Syn'x eventually fell into bankruptcy as a
> > result
> > > > of
> > > > the case, the program's authors continued their
> fight.
> > > > Last
> > > > September the Commercial Court of Nanterre, France,
> > > > awarded
> > > > Syn'x the judgment for damages and interest.
> Microsoft
> > has
> > > > vowed to appeal the decision.
> > > > Sales Pitch Rebuffed
> > > > Microsoft's brush with piracy in France came to
> light
> > only
> > > > this week. The case was overshadowed at the time by
> > the
> > > > focus
> > > > on the September 11 terrorist attacks. But recently
> a
> > > > Peruvian
> > > > congressman raised the issue in regard to a
> Microsoft
> > > > contract.
> > > > Dr. Edgar David Villanueva Nuñez corresponded in
> April
> > > > with
> > > > Microsoft's general manager in Peru over proposed
> > > > legislation
> > > > there that would require any software used by the
> > Peruvian
> > > > government to be open source (or "free software," as
> > it's
> > > > referred to in Peru). Microsoft representatives
> > protested
> > > > the
> > > > plan, writing the congressman that producing
> > open-source
> > > > software makes a software company vulnerable to
> piracy
> > of
> > > > its
> > > > intellectual property by competitors. If Peru
> mandates
> > the
> > > > use
> > > > of open-source software by government agencies, it
> > "would
> > > > establish discriminatory and noncompetitive
> practices
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > contracting and purchasing" of software by public
> > bodies,
> > > > Microsoft stated.
> > > > Nuñez was apparently not persuaded. He replied to
> > > > Microsoft:
> > > > "The inclusion of the intellectual property of
> others
> > in
> > > > works
> > > > claimed as one's own is not a practice that has been
> > noted
> > > > in
> > > > the [open-source] software community; whereas,
> > > > unfortunately,
> > > > it has been in the area of proprietary software." He
> > cited
> > > > specifically Microsoft's conviction by the
> Commercial
> > > > Court of
> > > > France, "for violation of intellectual property
> > (piracy,
> > > > to
> > > > use the unfortunate term that your firm commonly
> uses
> > in
> > > > its
> > > > publicity)."
> > > > Meanwhile, Microsoft remains one of the most
> outspoken
> > > > critics
> > > > of piracy, aggressively pursuing violators and
> urging
> > > > authorities to crack down on anyone who illegally
> > copies
> > > > its
> > > > software. The company even went so far as to include
> > an
> > > > Activation Wizard in Windows XP, which prevents
> > customers
> > > > from
> > > > loading a single copy of XP onto more than one PC.
> The
> > > > company
> > > > amended the policy after user outcry.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
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> > >
> >
> >
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* Re: interesting story
` Octavian Rasnita
@ ` Toby Fisher
` Octavian Rasnita
0 siblings, 1 reply; 36+ messages in thread
From: Toby Fisher @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
On Thu, 16 May 2002, Octavian Rasnita wrote:
> Yes you can do it under Linux but I am not a Linux expert so I don't know
> exactly how it was done.
> There are no Registry settings that need to be changed.
> There is only that key file from your hard disk that needs to be copied.
I reckon that dd might be a good place to start.
Cheers.
--
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Tel.: +44(0)1480 417272 Mobile: +44(0)7974 363239
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Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
> > > > Syn'x
> > > > severed its relationship with Microsoft-Softimage,
> the
> > > > company
> > > > assured Syn'x that it had removed "some or all" of
> > > > Character
> > > > from its software. But Syn'x charges that
> > > > Microsoft-Softimage
> > > > removed only one part of the code, and retained
> eight
> > > > other
> > > > functions that Character's developers had registered
> > with
> > > > the
> > > > French National Intellectual Property Institute.
> > > > After Syn'x sent two letters to Softimage and
> > Microsoft
> > > > demanding the functions be removed, the company
> filed
> > > > suit. In
> > > > 1998, Microsoft sold Softimage to Avid Technologies
> > but
> > > > remained responsible for the legal infringements of
> > its
> > > > former
> > > > wholly owned subsidiary.
> > > > Although Syn'x eventually fell into bankruptcy as a
> > result
> > > > of
> > > > the case, the program's authors continued their
> fight.
> > > > Last
> > > > September the Commercial Court of Nanterre, France,
> > > > awarded
> > > > Syn'x the judgment for damages and interest.
> Microsoft
> > has
> > > > vowed to appeal the decision.
> > > > Sales Pitch Rebuffed
> > > > Microsoft's brush with piracy in France came to
> light
> > only
> > > > this week. The case was overshadowed at the time by
> > the
> > > > focus
> > > > on the September 11 terrorist attacks. But recently
> a
> > > > Peruvian
> > > > congressman raised the issue in regard to a
> Microsoft
> > > > contract.
> > > > Dr. Edgar David Villanueva Nuñez corresponded in
> April
> > > > with
> > > > Microsoft's general manager in Peru over proposed
> > > > legislation
> > > > there that would require any software used by the
> > Peruvian
> > > > government to be open source (or "free software," as
> > it's
> > > > referred to in Peru). Microsoft representatives
> > protested
> > > > the
> > > > plan, writing the congressman that producing
> > open-source
> > > > software makes a software company vulnerable to
> piracy
> > of
> > > > its
> > > > intellectual property by competitors. If Peru
> mandates
> > the
> > > > use
> > > > of open-source software by government agencies, it
> > "would
> > > > establish discriminatory and noncompetitive
> practices
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > contracting and purchasing" of software by public
> > bodies,
> > > > Microsoft stated.
> > > > Nuñez was apparently not persuaded. He replied to
> > > > Microsoft:
> > > > "The inclusion of the intellectual property of
> others
> > in
> > > > works
> > > > claimed as one's own is not a practice that has been
> > noted
> > > > in
> > > > the [open-source] software community; whereas,
> > > > unfortunately,
> > > > it has been in the area of proprietary software." He
> > cited
> > > > specifically Microsoft's conviction by the
> Commercial
> > > > Court of
> > > > France, "for violation of intellectual property
> > (piracy,
> > > > to
> > > > use the unfortunate term that your firm commonly
> uses
> > in
> > > > its
> > > > publicity)."
> > > > Meanwhile, Microsoft remains one of the most
> outspoken
> > > > critics
> > > > of piracy, aggressively pursuing violators and
> urging
> > > > authorities to crack down on anyone who illegally
> > copies
> > > > its
> > > > software. The company even went so far as to include
> > an
> > > > Activation Wizard in Windows XP, which prevents
> > customers
> > > > from
> > > > loading a single copy of XP onto more than one PC.
> The
> > > > company
> > > > amended the policy after user outcry.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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* Re: interesting story
` Toby Fisher
@ ` Octavian Rasnita
` Alex Snow
0 siblings, 1 reply; 36+ messages in thread
From: Octavian Rasnita @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
I remember that someone tried but with no success with dd.
Maybe it should try better, I don't know, but the idea is to create a
partition only with that key on it and to put that image there.
But it is more simple to do it this way with Norton Ghost with the -ia
parameter.
Teledisk is easier to use however.
Teddy,
orasnita@home.ro
----- Original Message -----
From: "Toby Fisher" <toby_fisher@bigfoot.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 5:44 AM
Subject: Re: interesting story
On Thu, 16 May 2002, Octavian Rasnita wrote:
> Yes you can do it under Linux but I am not a Linux expert so I don't know
> exactly how it was done.
> There are no Registry settings that need to be changed.
> There is only that key file from your hard disk that needs to be copied.
I reckon that dd might be a good place to start.
Cheers.
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> > > > Syn'x
> > > > severed its relationship with Microsoft-Softimage,
> the
> > > > company
> > > > assured Syn'x that it had removed "some or all" of
> > > > Character
> > > > from its software. But Syn'x charges that
> > > > Microsoft-Softimage
> > > > removed only one part of the code, and retained
> eight
> > > > other
> > > > functions that Character's developers had
registered
> > with
> > > > the
> > > > French National Intellectual Property Institute.
> > > > After Syn'x sent two letters to Softimage and
> > Microsoft
> > > > demanding the functions be removed, the company
> filed
> > > > suit. In
> > > > 1998, Microsoft sold Softimage to Avid
Technologies
> > but
> > > > remained responsible for the legal infringements
of
> > its
> > > > former
> > > > wholly owned subsidiary.
> > > > Although Syn'x eventually fell into bankruptcy as
a
> > result
> > > > of
> > > > the case, the program's authors continued their
> fight.
> > > > Last
> > > > September the Commercial Court of Nanterre,
France,
> > > > awarded
> > > > Syn'x the judgment for damages and interest.
> Microsoft
> > has
> > > > vowed to appeal the decision.
> > > > Sales Pitch Rebuffed
> > > > Microsoft's brush with piracy in France came to
> light
> > only
> > > > this week. The case was overshadowed at the time
by
> > the
> > > > focus
> > > > on the September 11 terrorist attacks. But
recently
> a
> > > > Peruvian
> > > > congressman raised the issue in regard to a
> Microsoft
> > > > contract.
> > > > Dr. Edgar David Villanueva Nuñez corresponded in
> April
> > > > with
> > > > Microsoft's general manager in Peru over proposed
> > > > legislation
> > > > there that would require any software used by the
> > Peruvian
> > > > government to be open source (or "free software,"
as
> > it's
> > > > referred to in Peru). Microsoft representatives
> > protested
> > > > the
> > > > plan, writing the congressman that producing
> > open-source
> > > > software makes a software company vulnerable to
> piracy
> > of
> > > > its
> > > > intellectual property by competitors. If Peru
> mandates
> > the
> > > > use
> > > > of open-source software by government agencies, it
> > "would
> > > > establish discriminatory and noncompetitive
> practices
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > contracting and purchasing" of software by public
> > bodies,
> > > > Microsoft stated.
> > > > Nuñez was apparently not persuaded. He replied to
> > > > Microsoft:
> > > > "The inclusion of the intellectual property of
> others
> > in
> > > > works
> > > > claimed as one's own is not a practice that has
been
> > noted
> > > > in
> > > > the [open-source] software community; whereas,
> > > > unfortunately,
> > > > it has been in the area of proprietary software."
He
> > cited
> > > > specifically Microsoft's conviction by the
> Commercial
> > > > Court of
> > > > France, "for violation of intellectual property
> > (piracy,
> > > > to
> > > > use the unfortunate term that your firm commonly
> uses
> > in
> > > > its
> > > > publicity)."
> > > > Meanwhile, Microsoft remains one of the most
> outspoken
> > > > critics
> > > > of piracy, aggressively pursuing violators and
> urging
> > > > authorities to crack down on anyone who illegally
> > copies
> > > > its
> > > > software. The company even went so far as to
include
> > an
> > > > Activation Wizard in Windows XP, which prevents
> > customers
> > > > from
> > > > loading a single copy of XP onto more than one PC.
> The
> > > > company
> > > > amended the policy after user outcry.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Speakup mailing list
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> > > >
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* Re: interesting story
` Octavian Rasnita
@ ` Alex Snow
` Octavian Rasnita
0 siblings, 1 reply; 36+ messages in thread
From: Alex Snow @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
good. I got norton ghost 2002 on this box, and I'll give it a try.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@home.ro>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:57 PM
Subject: Re: interesting story
> I remember that someone tried but with no success with dd.
> Maybe it should try better, I don't know, but the idea is to create a
> partition only with that key on it and to put that image there.
>
> But it is more simple to do it this way with Norton Ghost with the -ia
> parameter.
> Teledisk is easier to use however.
>
> Teddy,
> orasnita@home.ro
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Toby Fisher" <toby_fisher@bigfoot.com>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 5:44 AM
> Subject: Re: interesting story
>
>
> On Thu, 16 May 2002, Octavian Rasnita wrote:
>
> > Yes you can do it under Linux but I am not a Linux expert so I don't
know
> > exactly how it was done.
> > There are no Registry settings that need to be changed.
> > There is only that key file from your hard disk that needs to be copied.
>
> I reckon that dd might be a good place to start.
>
> Cheers.
>
> --
> Toby Fisher Email: toby@g0ucu.freeserve.co.uk
> Tel.: +44(0)1480 417272 Mobile: +44(0)7974 363239
> ICQ: #61744808
> Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
> See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
>
> > > > > Syn'x
> > > > > severed its relationship with
Microsoft-Softimage,
> > the
> > > > > company
> > > > > assured Syn'x that it had removed "some or all"
of
> > > > > Character
> > > > > from its software. But Syn'x charges that
> > > > > Microsoft-Softimage
> > > > > removed only one part of the code, and retained
> > eight
> > > > > other
> > > > > functions that Character's developers had
> registered
> > > with
> > > > > the
> > > > > French National Intellectual Property Institute.
> > > > > After Syn'x sent two letters to Softimage and
> > > Microsoft
> > > > > demanding the functions be removed, the company
> > filed
> > > > > suit. In
> > > > > 1998, Microsoft sold Softimage to Avid
> Technologies
> > > but
> > > > > remained responsible for the legal infringements
> of
> > > its
> > > > > former
> > > > > wholly owned subsidiary.
> > > > > Although Syn'x eventually fell into bankruptcy
as
> a
> > > result
> > > > > of
> > > > > the case, the program's authors continued their
> > fight.
> > > > > Last
> > > > > September the Commercial Court of Nanterre,
> France,
> > > > > awarded
> > > > > Syn'x the judgment for damages and interest.
> > Microsoft
> > > has
> > > > > vowed to appeal the decision.
> > > > > Sales Pitch Rebuffed
> > > > > Microsoft's brush with piracy in France came to
> > light
> > > only
> > > > > this week. The case was overshadowed at the time
> by
> > > the
> > > > > focus
> > > > > on the September 11 terrorist attacks. But
> recently
> > a
> > > > > Peruvian
> > > > > congressman raised the issue in regard to a
> > Microsoft
> > > > > contract.
> > > > > Dr. Edgar David Villanueva Nuñez corresponded in
> > April
> > > > > with
> > > > > Microsoft's general manager in Peru over
proposed
> > > > > legislation
> > > > > there that would require any software used by
the
> > > Peruvian
> > > > > government to be open source (or "free
software,"
> as
> > > it's
> > > > > referred to in Peru). Microsoft representatives
> > > protested
> > > > > the
> > > > > plan, writing the congressman that producing
> > > open-source
> > > > > software makes a software company vulnerable to
> > piracy
> > > of
> > > > > its
> > > > > intellectual property by competitors. If Peru
> > mandates
> > > the
> > > > > use
> > > > > of open-source software by government agencies,
it
> > > "would
> > > > > establish discriminatory and noncompetitive
> > practices
> > > in
> > > > > the
> > > > > contracting and purchasing" of software by
public
> > > bodies,
> > > > > Microsoft stated.
> > > > > Nuñez was apparently not persuaded. He replied
to
> > > > > Microsoft:
> > > > > "The inclusion of the intellectual property of
> > others
> > > in
> > > > > works
> > > > > claimed as one's own is not a practice that has
> been
> > > noted
> > > > > in
> > > > > the [open-source] software community; whereas,
> > > > > unfortunately,
> > > > > it has been in the area of proprietary
software."
> He
> > > cited
> > > > > specifically Microsoft's conviction by the
> > Commercial
> > > > > Court of
> > > > > France, "for violation of intellectual property
> > > (piracy,
> > > > > to
> > > > > use the unfortunate term that your firm commonly
> > uses
> > > in
> > > > > its
> > > > > publicity)."
> > > > > Meanwhile, Microsoft remains one of the most
> > outspoken
> > > > > critics
> > > > > of piracy, aggressively pursuing violators and
> > urging
> > > > > authorities to crack down on anyone who
illegally
> > > copies
> > > > > its
> > > > > software. The company even went so far as to
> include
> > > an
> > > > > Activation Wizard in Windows XP, which prevents
> > > customers
> > > > > from
> > > > > loading a single copy of XP onto more than one
PC.
> > The
> > > > > company
> > > > > amended the policy after user outcry.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 36+ messages in thread
* Re: interesting story
` Igor Gueths
` Ameer Armaly
@ ` Alex Snow
` Ameer Armaly
1 sibling, 1 reply; 36+ messages in thread
From: Alex Snow @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
also look at JFWauth.ath in your jaws dir.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: interesting story
Oh Well. Just goes to show you how crappy the registry is. Will have to
check out jfw.cps in a hexeditor sometime to see if I can figure out what
flag is set and modify it.
----- Original Message -----
From: Ameer Armaly <Ameer_Armaly@hotmail.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 8:18 PM
Subject: Re: interesting story
> it's not a reg key. It's a flag in the auth file.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 6:47 PM
> Subject: Re: interesting story
>
>
> Hi Alex. Now there's one thing that I don't think has been cracked or
> avoided yet. I think I could use my box to image an nt authorization, and
> then copy it onto a fat formatted disk for others to use. Now as for
> tricking Winblows into thinking that jfw is registered under w2k, will
have
> to search the various reg keys for that one.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Alex Snow <alex_snow@gmx.net>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:33 PM
> Subject: Re: interesting story
>
>
> > So Do I. Can't use it though because I don't got jaws "NT
authorisation".
> > Maybe there's a crack for that also?
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romualt.dhs.org>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:28 PM
> > Subject: Re: interesting story
> >
> >
> > > Yeah. A friend of mine surprised me the other day by cheerfully
> informing
> > me that he's got a cd of a cracked copy of windows xp.
> > > Greg
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 03:22:42PM -0400, Alex Snow wrote:
> > > > Sounds just like Microcrap. Hypocritical.
> > > > And about that xp activation thing, it's been cracked.
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
> > > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 7:33 PM
> > > > Subject: interesting story
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi all. Hope this is of interest.
> > > >
> > > > Did Microsoft Flirt With Piracy?
> > > >
> > > > Complaints about open-source software policy
reveal
> > piracy
> > > > rap
> > > > in France.
> > > > Kim Zetter, special to PCWorld.com
> > > > Thursday, May 09, 2002
> > > > While Microsoft cracks down on software pirates
the
> > world
> > > > over, the software giant itself was quietly
> convicted
> > of
> > > > piracy charges in France last fall--and the case,
> > while
> > > > supposedly under appeal, may cost the company some
> > > > business.
> > > > The French division of Microsoft is facing a fine
of
> > about
> > > > $422,000 for illegal use of another company's
source
> > code
> > > > in
> > > > an animation program called Softimage 3D. The
> program
> > has
> > > > been
> > > > used to create such films as The Matrix, Men in
> Black,
> > and
> > > > Star Wars. But the dispute itself was cited by a
> > > > governmental
> > > > buyer who contends Microsoft should not complain
> about
> > > > pirates
> > > > when it is guilty of the same transgression.
> Microsoft
> > did
> > > > not
> > > > respond to requests for comment.
> > > > Borrowed Code
> > > > The issue started in 1995 when Microsoft France
> > purchased
> > > > Softimage, a Canadian company that developed the
3D
> > CGI
> > > > animation program Softimage 3D. The acquired
company
> > was
> > > > accused of illegally lifting source code from a
> > > > proprietary
> > > > program called Character, developed by the owners
of
> > Syn'x
> > > > Relief, a company near Paris.
> > > > In 1994, Softimage had negotiated with Syn'x about
> > > > integrating
> > > > parts of the Character program into Softimage 3D.
> But
> > the
> > > > deal
> > > > fell through when Softimage demanded all rights to
> the
> > > > code,
> > > > according to a report in PC World Malta. In 1995,
> when
> > > > Syn'x
> > > > severed its relationship with Microsoft-Softimage,
> the
> > > > company
> > > > assured Syn'x that it had removed "some or all" of
> > > > Character
> > > > from its software. But Syn'x charges that
> > > > Microsoft-Softimage
> > > > removed only one part of the code, and retained
> eight
> > > > other
> > > > functions that Character's developers had
registered
> > with
> > > > the
> > > > French National Intellectual Property Institute.
> > > > After Syn'x sent two letters to Softimage and
> > Microsoft
> > > > demanding the functions be removed, the company
> filed
> > > > suit. In
> > > > 1998, Microsoft sold Softimage to Avid
Technologies
> > but
> > > > remained responsible for the legal infringements
of
> > its
> > > > former
> > > > wholly owned subsidiary.
> > > > Although Syn'x eventually fell into bankruptcy as
a
> > result
> > > > of
> > > > the case, the program's authors continued their
> fight.
> > > > Last
> > > > September the Commercial Court of Nanterre,
France,
> > > > awarded
> > > > Syn'x the judgment for damages and interest.
> Microsoft
> > has
> > > > vowed to appeal the decision.
> > > > Sales Pitch Rebuffed
> > > > Microsoft's brush with piracy in France came to
> light
> > only
> > > > this week. The case was overshadowed at the time
by
> > the
> > > > focus
> > > > on the September 11 terrorist attacks. But
recently
> a
> > > > Peruvian
> > > > congressman raised the issue in regard to a
> Microsoft
> > > > contract.
> > > > Dr. Edgar David Villanueva Nuñez corresponded in
> April
> > > > with
> > > > Microsoft's general manager in Peru over proposed
> > > > legislation
> > > > there that would require any software used by the
> > Peruvian
> > > > government to be open source (or "free software,"
as
> > it's
> > > > referred to in Peru). Microsoft representatives
> > protested
> > > > the
> > > > plan, writing the congressman that producing
> > open-source
> > > > software makes a software company vulnerable to
> piracy
> > of
> > > > its
> > > > intellectual property by competitors. If Peru
> mandates
> > the
> > > > use
> > > > of open-source software by government agencies, it
> > "would
> > > > establish discriminatory and noncompetitive
> practices
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > contracting and purchasing" of software by public
> > bodies,
> > > > Microsoft stated.
> > > > Nuñez was apparently not persuaded. He replied to
> > > > Microsoft:
> > > > "The inclusion of the intellectual property of
> others
> > in
> > > > works
> > > > claimed as one's own is not a practice that has
been
> > noted
> > > > in
> > > > the [open-source] software community; whereas,
> > > > unfortunately,
> > > > it has been in the area of proprietary software."
He
> > cited
> > > > specifically Microsoft's conviction by the
> Commercial
> > > > Court of
> > > > France, "for violation of intellectual property
> > (piracy,
> > > > to
> > > > use the unfortunate term that your firm commonly
> uses
> > in
> > > > its
> > > > publicity)."
> > > > Meanwhile, Microsoft remains one of the most
> outspoken
> > > > critics
> > > > of piracy, aggressively pursuing violators and
> urging
> > > > authorities to crack down on anyone who illegally
> > copies
> > > > its
> > > > software. The company even went so far as to
include
> > an
> > > > Activation Wizard in Windows XP, which prevents
> > customers
> > > > from
> > > > loading a single copy of XP onto more than one PC.
> The
> > > > company
> > > > amended the policy after user outcry.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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* Re: interesting story
` Alex Snow
@ ` Ameer Armaly
0 siblings, 0 replies; 36+ messages in thread
From: Ameer Armaly @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
That one is in no way encrypted. You can read it with notepad.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Snow" <alex_snow@gmx.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 6:38 AM
Subject: Re: interesting story
> also look at JFWauth.ath in your jaws dir.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 8:41 PM
> Subject: Re: interesting story
>
>
> Oh Well. Just goes to show you how crappy the registry is. Will have to
> check out jfw.cps in a hexeditor sometime to see if I can figure out what
> flag is set and modify it.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ameer Armaly <Ameer_Armaly@hotmail.com>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 8:18 PM
> Subject: Re: interesting story
>
>
> > it's not a reg key. It's a flag in the auth file.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 6:47 PM
> > Subject: Re: interesting story
> >
> >
> > Hi Alex. Now there's one thing that I don't think has been cracked or
> > avoided yet. I think I could use my box to image an nt authorization,
and
> > then copy it onto a fat formatted disk for others to use. Now as for
> > tricking Winblows into thinking that jfw is registered under w2k, will
> have
> > to search the various reg keys for that one.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Alex Snow <alex_snow@gmx.net>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:33 PM
> > Subject: Re: interesting story
> >
> >
> > > So Do I. Can't use it though because I don't got jaws "NT
> authorisation".
> > > Maybe there's a crack for that also?
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romualt.dhs.org>
> > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:28 PM
> > > Subject: Re: interesting story
> > >
> > >
> > > > Yeah. A friend of mine surprised me the other day by cheerfully
> > informing
> > > me that he's got a cd of a cracked copy of windows xp.
> > > > Greg
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 03:22:42PM -0400, Alex Snow wrote:
> > > > > Sounds just like Microcrap. Hypocritical.
> > > > > And about that xp activation thing, it's been cracked.
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
> > > > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 7:33 PM
> > > > > Subject: interesting story
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi all. Hope this is of interest.
> > > > >
> > > > > Did Microsoft Flirt With Piracy?
> > > > >
> > > > > Complaints about open-source software policy
> reveal
> > > piracy
> > > > > rap
> > > > > in France.
> > > > > Kim Zetter, special to PCWorld.com
> > > > > Thursday, May 09, 2002
> > > > > While Microsoft cracks down on software pirates
> the
> > > world
> > > > > over, the software giant itself was quietly
> > convicted
> > > of
> > > > > piracy charges in France last fall--and the
case,
> > > while
> > > > > supposedly under appeal, may cost the company
some
> > > > > business.
> > > > > The French division of Microsoft is facing a
fine
> of
> > > about
> > > > > $422,000 for illegal use of another company's
> source
> > > code
> > > > > in
> > > > > an animation program called Softimage 3D. The
> > program
> > > has
> > > > > been
> > > > > used to create such films as The Matrix, Men in
> > Black,
> > > and
> > > > > Star Wars. But the dispute itself was cited by a
> > > > > governmental
> > > > > buyer who contends Microsoft should not complain
> > about
> > > > > pirates
> > > > > when it is guilty of the same transgression.
> > Microsoft
> > > did
> > > > > not
> > > > > respond to requests for comment.
> > > > > Borrowed Code
> > > > > The issue started in 1995 when Microsoft France
> > > purchased
> > > > > Softimage, a Canadian company that developed the
> 3D
> > > CGI
> > > > > animation program Softimage 3D. The acquired
> company
> > > was
> > > > > accused of illegally lifting source code from a
> > > > > proprietary
> > > > > program called Character, developed by the
owners
> of
> > > Syn'x
> > > > > Relief, a company near Paris.
> > > > > In 1994, Softimage had negotiated with Syn'x
about
> > > > > integrating
> > > > > parts of the Character program into Softimage
3D.
> > But
> > > the
> > > > > deal
> > > > > fell through when Softimage demanded all rights
to
> > the
> > > > > code,
> > > > > according to a report in PC World Malta. In
1995,
> > when
> > > > > Syn'x
> > > > > severed its relationship with
Microsoft-Softimage,
> > the
> > > > > company
> > > > > assured Syn'x that it had removed "some or all"
of
> > > > > Character
> > > > > from its software. But Syn'x charges that
> > > > > Microsoft-Softimage
> > > > > removed only one part of the code, and retained
> > eight
> > > > > other
> > > > > functions that Character's developers had
> registered
> > > with
> > > > > the
> > > > > French National Intellectual Property Institute.
> > > > > After Syn'x sent two letters to Softimage and
> > > Microsoft
> > > > > demanding the functions be removed, the company
> > filed
> > > > > suit. In
> > > > > 1998, Microsoft sold Softimage to Avid
> Technologies
> > > but
> > > > > remained responsible for the legal infringements
> of
> > > its
> > > > > former
> > > > > wholly owned subsidiary.
> > > > > Although Syn'x eventually fell into bankruptcy
as
> a
> > > result
> > > > > of
> > > > > the case, the program's authors continued their
> > fight.
> > > > > Last
> > > > > September the Commercial Court of Nanterre,
> France,
> > > > > awarded
> > > > > Syn'x the judgment for damages and interest.
> > Microsoft
> > > has
> > > > > vowed to appeal the decision.
> > > > > Sales Pitch Rebuffed
> > > > > Microsoft's brush with piracy in France came to
> > light
> > > only
> > > > > this week. The case was overshadowed at the time
> by
> > > the
> > > > > focus
> > > > > on the September 11 terrorist attacks. But
> recently
> > a
> > > > > Peruvian
> > > > > congressman raised the issue in regard to a
> > Microsoft
> > > > > contract.
> > > > > Dr. Edgar David Villanueva Nuñez corresponded in
> > April
> > > > > with
> > > > > Microsoft's general manager in Peru over
proposed
> > > > > legislation
> > > > > there that would require any software used by
the
> > > Peruvian
> > > > > government to be open source (or "free
software,"
> as
> > > it's
> > > > > referred to in Peru). Microsoft representatives
> > > protested
> > > > > the
> > > > > plan, writing the congressman that producing
> > > open-source
> > > > > software makes a software company vulnerable to
> > piracy
> > > of
> > > > > its
> > > > > intellectual property by competitors. If Peru
> > mandates
> > > the
> > > > > use
> > > > > of open-source software by government agencies,
it
> > > "would
> > > > > establish discriminatory and noncompetitive
> > practices
> > > in
> > > > > the
> > > > > contracting and purchasing" of software by
public
> > > bodies,
> > > > > Microsoft stated.
> > > > > Nuñez was apparently not persuaded. He replied
to
> > > > > Microsoft:
> > > > > "The inclusion of the intellectual property of
> > others
> > > in
> > > > > works
> > > > > claimed as one's own is not a practice that has
> been
> > > noted
> > > > > in
> > > > > the [open-source] software community; whereas,
> > > > > unfortunately,
> > > > > it has been in the area of proprietary
software."
> He
> > > cited
> > > > > specifically Microsoft's conviction by the
> > Commercial
> > > > > Court of
> > > > > France, "for violation of intellectual property
> > > (piracy,
> > > > > to
> > > > > use the unfortunate term that your firm commonly
> > uses
> > > in
> > > > > its
> > > > > publicity)."
> > > > > Meanwhile, Microsoft remains one of the most
> > outspoken
> > > > > critics
> > > > > of piracy, aggressively pursuing violators and
> > urging
> > > > > authorities to crack down on anyone who
illegally
> > > copies
> > > > > its
> > > > > software. The company even went so far as to
> include
> > > an
> > > > > Activation Wizard in Windows XP, which prevents
> > > customers
> > > > > from
> > > > > loading a single copy of XP onto more than one
PC.
> > The
> > > > > company
> > > > > amended the policy after user outcry.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>
>
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>
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 36+ messages in thread
* Re: interesting story
` Alex Snow
` Octavian Rasnita
@ ` Shaun Oliver
1 sibling, 0 replies; 36+ messages in thread
From: Shaun Oliver @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
On Wed, 15 May 2002, Alex Snow wrote:
> You can't image the disk. I think there's hard errors on it to prevent me
> from doing just that. The best thing to do is find out exactly what
> hjauth.exe does. That would be great If I could run 2k or xp on this box
> aspecially cause I'm running a server.
Yes the jfw authorization diskette does have hard errors on it. I did use
to know where they were but can't remember off the top of my head.
As for finding out what hjauth.exe does, why would you want to?
Shaun..
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 36+ messages in thread
* Re: interesting story
` Octavian Rasnita
@ ` Alex Snow
` Erik Heil
` Octavian Rasnita
0 siblings, 2 replies; 36+ messages in thread
From: Alex Snow @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
I can't seem to find this teledisk program, Whare do I go?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@home.ro>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: interesting story
> Do you know about Teledisk?
> It is used for creating images of floppy disks with extra sectors and some
> sectors formatted with another density.
> www.shaftoffice.com.
>
> Teddy,
> orasnita@home.ro
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alex Snow" <alex_snow@gmx.net>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 3:05 AM
> Subject: Re: interesting story
>
>
> You can't image the disk. I think there's hard errors on it to prevent me
> >from doing just that. The best thing to do is find out exactly what
> hjauth.exe does. That would be great If I could run 2k or xp on this box
> aspecially cause I'm running a server.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 6:47 PM
> Subject: Re: interesting story
>
>
> Hi Alex. Now there's one thing that I don't think has been cracked or
> avoided yet. I think I could use my box to image an nt authorization, and
> then copy it onto a fat formatted disk for others to use. Now as for
> tricking Winblows into thinking that jfw is registered under w2k, will
have
> to search the various reg keys for that one.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Alex Snow <alex_snow@gmx.net>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:33 PM
> Subject: Re: interesting story
>
>
> > So Do I. Can't use it though because I don't got jaws "NT
authorisation".
> > Maybe there's a crack for that also?
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romualt.dhs.org>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:28 PM
> > Subject: Re: interesting story
> >
> >
> > > Yeah. A friend of mine surprised me the other day by cheerfully
> informing
> > me that he's got a cd of a cracked copy of windows xp.
> > > Greg
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 03:22:42PM -0400, Alex Snow wrote:
> > > > Sounds just like Microcrap. Hypocritical.
> > > > And about that xp activation thing, it's been cracked.
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
> > > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 7:33 PM
> > > > Subject: interesting story
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi all. Hope this is of interest.
> > > >
> > > > Did Microsoft Flirt With Piracy?
> > > >
> > > > Complaints about open-source software policy
reveal
> > piracy
> > > > rap
> > > > in France.
> > > > Kim Zetter, special to PCWorld.com
> > > > Thursday, May 09, 2002
> > > > While Microsoft cracks down on software pirates
the
> > world
> > > > over, the software giant itself was quietly
> convicted
> > of
> > > > piracy charges in France last fall--and the case,
> > while
> > > > supposedly under appeal, may cost the company some
> > > > business.
> > > > The French division of Microsoft is facing a fine
of
> > about
> > > > $422,000 for illegal use of another company's
source
> > code
> > > > in
> > > > an animation program called Softimage 3D. The
> program
> > has
> > > > been
> > > > used to create such films as The Matrix, Men in
> Black,
> > and
> > > > Star Wars. But the dispute itself was cited by a
> > > > governmental
> > > > buyer who contends Microsoft should not complain
> about
> > > > pirates
> > > > when it is guilty of the same transgression.
> Microsoft
> > did
> > > > not
> > > > respond to requests for comment.
> > > > Borrowed Code
> > > > The issue started in 1995 when Microsoft France
> > purchased
> > > > Softimage, a Canadian company that developed the
3D
> > CGI
> > > > animation program Softimage 3D. The acquired
company
> > was
> > > > accused of illegally lifting source code from a
> > > > proprietary
> > > > program called Character, developed by the owners
of
> > Syn'x
> > > > Relief, a company near Paris.
> > > > In 1994, Softimage had negotiated with Syn'x about
> > > > integrating
> > > > parts of the Character program into Softimage 3D.
> But
> > the
> > > > deal
> > > > fell through when Softimage demanded all rights to
> the
> > > > code,
> > > > according to a report in PC World Malta. In 1995,
> when
> > > > Syn'x
> > > > severed its relationship with Microsoft-Softimage,
> the
> > > > company
> > > > assured Syn'x that it had removed "some or all" of
> > > > Character
> > > > from its software. But Syn'x charges that
> > > > Microsoft-Softimage
> > > > removed only one part of the code, and retained
> eight
> > > > other
> > > > functions that Character's developers had
registered
> > with
> > > > the
> > > > French National Intellectual Property Institute.
> > > > After Syn'x sent two letters to Softimage and
> > Microsoft
> > > > demanding the functions be removed, the company
> filed
> > > > suit. In
> > > > 1998, Microsoft sold Softimage to Avid
Technologies
> > but
> > > > remained responsible for the legal infringements
of
> > its
> > > > former
> > > > wholly owned subsidiary.
> > > > Although Syn'x eventually fell into bankruptcy as
a
> > result
> > > > of
> > > > the case, the program's authors continued their
> fight.
> > > > Last
> > > > September the Commercial Court of Nanterre,
France,
> > > > awarded
> > > > Syn'x the judgment for damages and interest.
> Microsoft
> > has
> > > > vowed to appeal the decision.
> > > > Sales Pitch Rebuffed
> > > > Microsoft's brush with piracy in France came to
> light
> > only
> > > > this week. The case was overshadowed at the time
by
> > the
> > > > focus
> > > > on the September 11 terrorist attacks. But
recently
> a
> > > > Peruvian
> > > > congressman raised the issue in regard to a
> Microsoft
> > > > contract.
> > > > Dr. Edgar David Villanueva Nuñez corresponded in
> April
> > > > with
> > > > Microsoft's general manager in Peru over proposed
> > > > legislation
> > > > there that would require any software used by the
> > Peruvian
> > > > government to be open source (or "free software,"
as
> > it's
> > > > referred to in Peru). Microsoft representatives
> > protested
> > > > the
> > > > plan, writing the congressman that producing
> > open-source
> > > > software makes a software company vulnerable to
> piracy
> > of
> > > > its
> > > > intellectual property by competitors. If Peru
> mandates
> > the
> > > > use
> > > > of open-source software by government agencies, it
> > "would
> > > > establish discriminatory and noncompetitive
> practices
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > contracting and purchasing" of software by public
> > bodies,
> > > > Microsoft stated.
> > > > Nuñez was apparently not persuaded. He replied to
> > > > Microsoft:
> > > > "The inclusion of the intellectual property of
> others
> > in
> > > > works
> > > > claimed as one's own is not a practice that has
been
> > noted
> > > > in
> > > > the [open-source] software community; whereas,
> > > > unfortunately,
> > > > it has been in the area of proprietary software."
He
> > cited
> > > > specifically Microsoft's conviction by the
> Commercial
> > > > Court of
> > > > France, "for violation of intellectual property
> > (piracy,
> > > > to
> > > > use the unfortunate term that your firm commonly
> uses
> > in
> > > > its
> > > > publicity)."
> > > > Meanwhile, Microsoft remains one of the most
> outspoken
> > > > critics
> > > > of piracy, aggressively pursuing violators and
> urging
> > > > authorities to crack down on anyone who illegally
> > copies
> > > > its
> > > > software. The company even went so far as to
include
> > an
> > > > Activation Wizard in Windows XP, which prevents
> > customers
> > > > from
> > > > loading a single copy of XP onto more than one PC.
> The
> > > > company
> > > > amended the policy after user outcry.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>
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>
>
>
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>
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* Re: interesting story
` Alex Snow
@ ` Erik Heil
` Alex Snow
` Octavian Rasnita
1 sibling, 1 reply; 36+ messages in thread
From: Erik Heil @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Just a thought here regarding the HJ authorization disks. We need to find
where the errors are hard coded into the filesystem, then we could create a
usable version and possibly use dd to create the media. Who knows, if we're
very good at this, we may even be able to create our own NT authorizations.
This depends on what flag values are actually set in the authorization file.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Snow" <alex_snow@gmx.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: interesting story
> I can't seem to find this teledisk program, Whare do I go?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@home.ro>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:19 PM
> Subject: Re: interesting story
>
>
> > Do you know about Teledisk?
> > It is used for creating images of floppy disks with extra sectors and
some
> > sectors formatted with another density.
> > www.shaftoffice.com.
> >
> > Teddy,
> > orasnita@home.ro
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Alex Snow" <alex_snow@gmx.net>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 3:05 AM
> > Subject: Re: interesting story
> >
> >
> > You can't image the disk. I think there's hard errors on it to prevent
me
> > >from doing just that. The best thing to do is find out exactly what
> > hjauth.exe does. That would be great If I could run 2k or xp on this
box
> > aspecially cause I'm running a server.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 6:47 PM
> > Subject: Re: interesting story
> >
> >
> > Hi Alex. Now there's one thing that I don't think has been cracked or
> > avoided yet. I think I could use my box to image an nt authorization,
and
> > then copy it onto a fat formatted disk for others to use. Now as for
> > tricking Winblows into thinking that jfw is registered under w2k, will
> have
> > to search the various reg keys for that one.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Alex Snow <alex_snow@gmx.net>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:33 PM
> > Subject: Re: interesting story
> >
> >
> > > So Do I. Can't use it though because I don't got jaws "NT
> authorisation".
> > > Maybe there's a crack for that also?
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romualt.dhs.org>
> > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:28 PM
> > > Subject: Re: interesting story
> > >
> > >
> > > > Yeah. A friend of mine surprised me the other day by cheerfully
> > informing
> > > me that he's got a cd of a cracked copy of windows xp.
> > > > Greg
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 03:22:42PM -0400, Alex Snow wrote:
> > > > > Sounds just like Microcrap. Hypocritical.
> > > > > And about that xp activation thing, it's been cracked.
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
> > > > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 7:33 PM
> > > > > Subject: interesting story
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi all. Hope this is of interest.
> > > > >
> > > > > Did Microsoft Flirt With Piracy?
> > > > >
> > > > > Complaints about open-source software policy
> reveal
> > > piracy
> > > > > rap
> > > > > in France.
> > > > > Kim Zetter, special to PCWorld.com
> > > > > Thursday, May 09, 2002
> > > > > While Microsoft cracks down on software pirates
> the
> > > world
> > > > > over, the software giant itself was quietly
> > convicted
> > > of
> > > > > piracy charges in France last fall--and the
case,
> > > while
> > > > > supposedly under appeal, may cost the company
some
> > > > > business.
> > > > > The French division of Microsoft is facing a
fine
> of
> > > about
> > > > > $422,000 for illegal use of another company's
> source
> > > code
> > > > > in
> > > > > an animation program called Softimage 3D. The
> > program
> > > has
> > > > > been
> > > > > used to create such films as The Matrix, Men in
> > Black,
> > > and
> > > > > Star Wars. But the dispute itself was cited by a
> > > > > governmental
> > > > > buyer who contends Microsoft should not complain
> > about
> > > > > pirates
> > > > > when it is guilty of the same transgression.
> > Microsoft
> > > did
> > > > > not
> > > > > respond to requests for comment.
> > > > > Borrowed Code
> > > > > The issue started in 1995 when Microsoft France
> > > purchased
> > > > > Softimage, a Canadian company that developed the
> 3D
> > > CGI
> > > > > animation program Softimage 3D. The acquired
> company
> > > was
> > > > > accused of illegally lifting source code from a
> > > > > proprietary
> > > > > program called Character, developed by the
owners
> of
> > > Syn'x
> > > > > Relief, a company near Paris.
> > > > > In 1994, Softimage had negotiated with Syn'x
about
> > > > > integrating
> > > > > parts of the Character program into Softimage
3D.
> > But
> > > the
> > > > > deal
> > > > > fell through when Softimage demanded all rights
to
> > the
> > > > > code,
> > > > > according to a report in PC World Malta. In
1995,
> > when
> > > > > Syn'x
> > > > > severed its relationship with
Microsoft-Softimage,
> > the
> > > > > company
> > > > > assured Syn'x that it had removed "some or all"
of
> > > > > Character
> > > > > from its software. But Syn'x charges that
> > > > > Microsoft-Softimage
> > > > > removed only one part of the code, and retained
> > eight
> > > > > other
> > > > > functions that Character's developers had
> registered
> > > with
> > > > > the
> > > > > French National Intellectual Property Institute.
> > > > > After Syn'x sent two letters to Softimage and
> > > Microsoft
> > > > > demanding the functions be removed, the company
> > filed
> > > > > suit. In
> > > > > 1998, Microsoft sold Softimage to Avid
> Technologies
> > > but
> > > > > remained responsible for the legal infringements
> of
> > > its
> > > > > former
> > > > > wholly owned subsidiary.
> > > > > Although Syn'x eventually fell into bankruptcy
as
> a
> > > result
> > > > > of
> > > > > the case, the program's authors continued their
> > fight.
> > > > > Last
> > > > > September the Commercial Court of Nanterre,
> France,
> > > > > awarded
> > > > > Syn'x the judgment for damages and interest.
> > Microsoft
> > > has
> > > > > vowed to appeal the decision.
> > > > > Sales Pitch Rebuffed
> > > > > Microsoft's brush with piracy in France came to
> > light
> > > only
> > > > > this week. The case was overshadowed at the time
> by
> > > the
> > > > > focus
> > > > > on the September 11 terrorist attacks. But
> recently
> > a
> > > > > Peruvian
> > > > > congressman raised the issue in regard to a
> > Microsoft
> > > > > contract.
> > > > > Dr. Edgar David Villanueva Nuñez corresponded in
> > April
> > > > > with
> > > > > Microsoft's general manager in Peru over
proposed
> > > > > legislation
> > > > > there that would require any software used by
the
> > > Peruvian
> > > > > government to be open source (or "free
software,"
> as
> > > it's
> > > > > referred to in Peru). Microsoft representatives
> > > protested
> > > > > the
> > > > > plan, writing the congressman that producing
> > > open-source
> > > > > software makes a software company vulnerable to
> > piracy
> > > of
> > > > > its
> > > > > intellectual property by competitors. If Peru
> > mandates
> > > the
> > > > > use
> > > > > of open-source software by government agencies,
it
> > > "would
> > > > > establish discriminatory and noncompetitive
> > practices
> > > in
> > > > > the
> > > > > contracting and purchasing" of software by
public
> > > bodies,
> > > > > Microsoft stated.
> > > > > Nuñez was apparently not persuaded. He replied
to
> > > > > Microsoft:
> > > > > "The inclusion of the intellectual property of
> > others
> > > in
> > > > > works
> > > > > claimed as one's own is not a practice that has
> been
> > > noted
> > > > > in
> > > > > the [open-source] software community; whereas,
> > > > > unfortunately,
> > > > > it has been in the area of proprietary
software."
> He
> > > cited
> > > > > specifically Microsoft's conviction by the
> > Commercial
> > > > > Court of
> > > > > France, "for violation of intellectual property
> > > (piracy,
> > > > > to
> > > > > use the unfortunate term that your firm commonly
> > uses
> > > in
> > > > > its
> > > > > publicity)."
> > > > > Meanwhile, Microsoft remains one of the most
> > outspoken
> > > > > critics
> > > > > of piracy, aggressively pursuing violators and
> > urging
> > > > > authorities to crack down on anyone who
illegally
> > > copies
> > > > > its
> > > > > software. The company even went so far as to
> include
> > > an
> > > > > Activation Wizard in Windows XP, which prevents
> > > customers
> > > > > from
> > > > > loading a single copy of XP onto more than one
PC.
> > The
> > > > > company
> > > > > amended the policy after user outcry.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> >
> >
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> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
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>
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* Re: interesting story
` Erik Heil
@ ` Alex Snow
0 siblings, 0 replies; 36+ messages in thread
From: Alex Snow @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
What winblows app would be best to analyse the file?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Erik Heil" <eheil@rcn.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: interesting story
> Just a thought here regarding the HJ authorization disks. We need to find
> where the errors are hard coded into the filesystem, then we could create
a
> usable version and possibly use dd to create the media. Who knows, if
we're
> very good at this, we may even be able to create our own NT
authorizations.
> This depends on what flag values are actually set in the authorization
file.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alex Snow" <alex_snow@gmx.net>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 6:53 PM
> Subject: Re: interesting story
>
>
> > I can't seem to find this teledisk program, Whare do I go?
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@home.ro>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:19 PM
> > Subject: Re: interesting story
> >
> >
> > > Do you know about Teledisk?
> > > It is used for creating images of floppy disks with extra sectors and
> some
> > > sectors formatted with another density.
> > > www.shaftoffice.com.
> > >
> > > Teddy,
> > > orasnita@home.ro
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Alex Snow" <alex_snow@gmx.net>
> > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 3:05 AM
> > > Subject: Re: interesting story
> > >
> > >
> > > You can't image the disk. I think there's hard errors on it to
prevent
> me
> > > >from doing just that. The best thing to do is find out exactly what
> > > hjauth.exe does. That would be great If I could run 2k or xp on this
> box
> > > aspecially cause I'm running a server.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
> > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 6:47 PM
> > > Subject: Re: interesting story
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Alex. Now there's one thing that I don't think has been cracked or
> > > avoided yet. I think I could use my box to image an nt authorization,
> and
> > > then copy it onto a fat formatted disk for others to use. Now as for
> > > tricking Winblows into thinking that jfw is registered under w2k, will
> > have
> > > to search the various reg keys for that one.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Alex Snow <alex_snow@gmx.net>
> > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:33 PM
> > > Subject: Re: interesting story
> > >
> > >
> > > > So Do I. Can't use it though because I don't got jaws "NT
> > authorisation".
> > > > Maybe there's a crack for that also?
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romualt.dhs.org>
> > > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:28 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: interesting story
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Yeah. A friend of mine surprised me the other day by cheerfully
> > > informing
> > > > me that he's got a cd of a cracked copy of windows xp.
> > > > > Greg
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 03:22:42PM -0400, Alex Snow wrote:
> > > > > > Sounds just like Microcrap. Hypocritical.
> > > > > > And about that xp activation thing, it's been cracked.
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
> > > > > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 7:33 PM
> > > > > > Subject: interesting story
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi all. Hope this is of interest.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Did Microsoft Flirt With Piracy?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Complaints about open-source software policy
> > reveal
> > > > piracy
> > > > > > rap
> > > > > > in France.
> > > > > > Kim Zetter, special to PCWorld.com
> > > > > > Thursday, May 09, 2002
> > > > > > While Microsoft cracks down on software
pirates
> > the
> > > > world
> > > > > > over, the software giant itself was quietly
> > > convicted
> > > > of
> > > > > > piracy charges in France last fall--and the
> case,
> > > > while
> > > > > > supposedly under appeal, may cost the company
> some
> > > > > > business.
> > > > > > The French division of Microsoft is facing a
> fine
> > of
> > > > about
> > > > > > $422,000 for illegal use of another company's
> > source
> > > > code
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > an animation program called Softimage 3D. The
> > > program
> > > > has
> > > > > > been
> > > > > > used to create such films as The Matrix, Men
in
> > > Black,
> > > > and
> > > > > > Star Wars. But the dispute itself was cited by
a
> > > > > > governmental
> > > > > > buyer who contends Microsoft should not
complain
> > > about
> > > > > > pirates
> > > > > > when it is guilty of the same transgression.
> > > Microsoft
> > > > did
> > > > > > not
> > > > > > respond to requests for comment.
> > > > > > Borrowed Code
> > > > > > The issue started in 1995 when Microsoft
France
> > > > purchased
> > > > > > Softimage, a Canadian company that developed
the
> > 3D
> > > > CGI
> > > > > > animation program Softimage 3D. The acquired
> > company
> > > > was
> > > > > > accused of illegally lifting source code from
a
> > > > > > proprietary
> > > > > > program called Character, developed by the
> owners
> > of
> > > > Syn'x
> > > > > > Relief, a company near Paris.
> > > > > > In 1994, Softimage had negotiated with Syn'x
> about
> > > > > > integrating
> > > > > > parts of the Character program into Softimage
> 3D.
> > > But
> > > > the
> > > > > > deal
> > > > > > fell through when Softimage demanded all
rights
> to
> > > the
> > > > > > code,
> > > > > > according to a report in PC World Malta. In
> 1995,
> > > when
> > > > > > Syn'x
> > > > > > severed its relationship with
> Microsoft-Softimage,
> > > the
> > > > > > company
> > > > > > assured Syn'x that it had removed "some or
all"
> of
> > > > > > Character
> > > > > > from its software. But Syn'x charges that
> > > > > > Microsoft-Softimage
> > > > > > removed only one part of the code, and
retained
> > > eight
> > > > > > other
> > > > > > functions that Character's developers had
> > registered
> > > > with
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > French National Intellectual Property
Institute.
> > > > > > After Syn'x sent two letters to Softimage and
> > > > Microsoft
> > > > > > demanding the functions be removed, the
company
> > > filed
> > > > > > suit. In
> > > > > > 1998, Microsoft sold Softimage to Avid
> > Technologies
> > > > but
> > > > > > remained responsible for the legal
infringements
> > of
> > > > its
> > > > > > former
> > > > > > wholly owned subsidiary.
> > > > > > Although Syn'x eventually fell into bankruptcy
> as
> > a
> > > > result
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > the case, the program's authors continued
their
> > > fight.
> > > > > > Last
> > > > > > September the Commercial Court of Nanterre,
> > France,
> > > > > > awarded
> > > > > > Syn'x the judgment for damages and interest.
> > > Microsoft
> > > > has
> > > > > > vowed to appeal the decision.
> > > > > > Sales Pitch Rebuffed
> > > > > > Microsoft's brush with piracy in France came
to
> > > light
> > > > only
> > > > > > this week. The case was overshadowed at the
time
> > by
> > > > the
> > > > > > focus
> > > > > > on the September 11 terrorist attacks. But
> > recently
> > > a
> > > > > > Peruvian
> > > > > > congressman raised the issue in regard to a
> > > Microsoft
> > > > > > contract.
> > > > > > Dr. Edgar David Villanueva Nuñez corresponded
in
> > > April
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > Microsoft's general manager in Peru over
> proposed
> > > > > > legislation
> > > > > > there that would require any software used by
> the
> > > > Peruvian
> > > > > > government to be open source (or "free
> software,"
> > as
> > > > it's
> > > > > > referred to in Peru). Microsoft
representatives
> > > > protested
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > plan, writing the congressman that producing
> > > > open-source
> > > > > > software makes a software company vulnerable
to
> > > piracy
> > > > of
> > > > > > its
> > > > > > intellectual property by competitors. If Peru
> > > mandates
> > > > the
> > > > > > use
> > > > > > of open-source software by government
agencies,
> it
> > > > "would
> > > > > > establish discriminatory and noncompetitive
> > > practices
> > > > in
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > contracting and purchasing" of software by
> public
> > > > bodies,
> > > > > > Microsoft stated.
> > > > > > Nuñez was apparently not persuaded. He replied
> to
> > > > > > Microsoft:
> > > > > > "The inclusion of the intellectual property of
> > > others
> > > > in
> > > > > > works
> > > > > > claimed as one's own is not a practice that
has
> > been
> > > > noted
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > the [open-source] software community; whereas,
> > > > > > unfortunately,
> > > > > > it has been in the area of proprietary
> software."
> > He
> > > > cited
> > > > > > specifically Microsoft's conviction by the
> > > Commercial
> > > > > > Court of
> > > > > > France, "for violation of intellectual
property
> > > > (piracy,
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > use the unfortunate term that your firm
commonly
> > > uses
> > > > in
> > > > > > its
> > > > > > publicity)."
> > > > > > Meanwhile, Microsoft remains one of the most
> > > outspoken
> > > > > > critics
> > > > > > of piracy, aggressively pursuing violators and
> > > urging
> > > > > > authorities to crack down on anyone who
> illegally
> > > > copies
> > > > > > its
> > > > > > software. The company even went so far as to
> > include
> > > > an
> > > > > > Activation Wizard in Windows XP, which
prevents
> > > > customers
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > loading a single copy of XP onto more than one
> PC.
> > > The
> > > > > > company
> > > > > > amended the policy after user outcry.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> > >
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> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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* Re: interesting story
` Alex Snow
@ ` Octavian Rasnita
` Alex Snow
0 siblings, 1 reply; 36+ messages in thread
From: Octavian Rasnita @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Hi,
I need to tell you that I've destroyed a Jaws key just creating a ghhost
image.
I could restore it back when restoring the image created. Strange, I know.
But this didn't happen me all the time. Only 2 times.
Teddy,
orasnita@home.ro
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Snow" <alex_snow@gmx.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 1:25 PM
Subject: Re: interesting story
good. I got norton ghost 2002 on this box, and I'll give it a try.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@home.ro>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:57 PM
Subject: Re: interesting story
> I remember that someone tried but with no success with dd.
> Maybe it should try better, I don't know, but the idea is to create a
> partition only with that key on it and to put that image there.
>
> But it is more simple to do it this way with Norton Ghost with the -ia
> parameter.
> Teledisk is easier to use however.
>
> Teddy,
> orasnita@home.ro
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Toby Fisher" <toby_fisher@bigfoot.com>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 5:44 AM
> Subject: Re: interesting story
>
>
> On Thu, 16 May 2002, Octavian Rasnita wrote:
>
> > Yes you can do it under Linux but I am not a Linux expert so I don't
know
> > exactly how it was done.
> > There are no Registry settings that need to be changed.
> > There is only that key file from your hard disk that needs to be copied.
>
> I reckon that dd might be a good place to start.
>
> Cheers.
>
> --
> Toby Fisher Email: toby@g0ucu.freeserve.co.uk
> Tel.: +44(0)1480 417272 Mobile: +44(0)7974 363239
> ICQ: #61744808
> Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
> See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
>
> > > > > Syn'x
> > > > > severed its relationship with
Microsoft-Softimage,
> > the
> > > > > company
> > > > > assured Syn'x that it had removed "some or all"
of
> > > > > Character
> > > > > from its software. But Syn'x charges that
> > > > > Microsoft-Softimage
> > > > > removed only one part of the code, and retained
> > eight
> > > > > other
> > > > > functions that Character's developers had
> registered
> > > with
> > > > > the
> > > > > French National Intellectual Property Institute.
> > > > > After Syn'x sent two letters to Softimage and
> > > Microsoft
> > > > > demanding the functions be removed, the company
> > filed
> > > > > suit. In
> > > > > 1998, Microsoft sold Softimage to Avid
> Technologies
> > > but
> > > > > remained responsible for the legal infringements
> of
> > > its
> > > > > former
> > > > > wholly owned subsidiary.
> > > > > Although Syn'x eventually fell into bankruptcy
as
> a
> > > result
> > > > > of
> > > > > the case, the program's authors continued their
> > fight.
> > > > > Last
> > > > > September the Commercial Court of Nanterre,
> France,
> > > > > awarded
> > > > > Syn'x the judgment for damages and interest.
> > Microsoft
> > > has
> > > > > vowed to appeal the decision.
> > > > > Sales Pitch Rebuffed
> > > > > Microsoft's brush with piracy in France came to
> > light
> > > only
> > > > > this week. The case was overshadowed at the time
> by
> > > the
> > > > > focus
> > > > > on the September 11 terrorist attacks. But
> recently
> > a
> > > > > Peruvian
> > > > > congressman raised the issue in regard to a
> > Microsoft
> > > > > contract.
> > > > > Dr. Edgar David Villanueva Nuñez corresponded in
> > April
> > > > > with
> > > > > Microsoft's general manager in Peru over
proposed
> > > > > legislation
> > > > > there that would require any software used by
the
> > > Peruvian
> > > > > government to be open source (or "free
software,"
> as
> > > it's
> > > > > referred to in Peru). Microsoft representatives
> > > protested
> > > > > the
> > > > > plan, writing the congressman that producing
> > > open-source
> > > > > software makes a software company vulnerable to
> > piracy
> > > of
> > > > > its
> > > > > intellectual property by competitors. If Peru
> > mandates
> > > the
> > > > > use
> > > > > of open-source software by government agencies,
it
> > > "would
> > > > > establish discriminatory and noncompetitive
> > practices
> > > in
> > > > > the
> > > > > contracting and purchasing" of software by
public
> > > bodies,
> > > > > Microsoft stated.
> > > > > Nuñez was apparently not persuaded. He replied
to
> > > > > Microsoft:
> > > > > "The inclusion of the intellectual property of
> > others
> > > in
> > > > > works
> > > > > claimed as one's own is not a practice that has
> been
> > > noted
> > > > > in
> > > > > the [open-source] software community; whereas,
> > > > > unfortunately,
> > > > > it has been in the area of proprietary
software."
> He
> > > cited
> > > > > specifically Microsoft's conviction by the
> > Commercial
> > > > > Court of
> > > > > France, "for violation of intellectual property
> > > (piracy,
> > > > > to
> > > > > use the unfortunate term that your firm commonly
> > uses
> > > in
> > > > > its
> > > > > publicity)."
> > > > > Meanwhile, Microsoft remains one of the most
> > outspoken
> > > > > critics
> > > > > of piracy, aggressively pursuing violators and
> > urging
> > > > > authorities to crack down on anyone who
illegally
> > > copies
> > > > > its
> > > > > software. The company even went so far as to
> include
> > > an
> > > > > Activation Wizard in Windows XP, which prevents
> > > customers
> > > > > from
> > > > > loading a single copy of XP onto more than one
PC.
> > The
> > > > > company
> > > > > amended the policy after user outcry.
> > > > >
> > > > >
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* Re: interesting story
` Alex Snow
` Erik Heil
@ ` Octavian Rasnita
` Igor Gueths
1 sibling, 1 reply; 36+ messages in thread
From: Octavian Rasnita @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
The direct link to download it is :
http://teddy.fcc.ro/prg/teledisk223.zip
Let me know if the server has problems or something.
It is a dos application.
Teddy,
orasnita@home.ro
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Snow" <alex_snow@gmx.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 1:53 AM
Subject: Re: interesting story
I can't seem to find this teledisk program, Whare do I go?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@home.ro>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: interesting story
> Do you know about Teledisk?
> It is used for creating images of floppy disks with extra sectors and some
> sectors formatted with another density.
> www.shaftoffice.com.
>
> Teddy,
> orasnita@home.ro
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alex Snow" <alex_snow@gmx.net>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 3:05 AM
> Subject: Re: interesting story
>
>
> You can't image the disk. I think there's hard errors on it to prevent me
> >from doing just that. The best thing to do is find out exactly what
> hjauth.exe does. That would be great If I could run 2k or xp on this box
> aspecially cause I'm running a server.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 6:47 PM
> Subject: Re: interesting story
>
>
> Hi Alex. Now there's one thing that I don't think has been cracked or
> avoided yet. I think I could use my box to image an nt authorization, and
> then copy it onto a fat formatted disk for others to use. Now as for
> tricking Winblows into thinking that jfw is registered under w2k, will
have
> to search the various reg keys for that one.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Alex Snow <alex_snow@gmx.net>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:33 PM
> Subject: Re: interesting story
>
>
> > So Do I. Can't use it though because I don't got jaws "NT
authorisation".
> > Maybe there's a crack for that also?
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romualt.dhs.org>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:28 PM
> > Subject: Re: interesting story
> >
> >
> > > Yeah. A friend of mine surprised me the other day by cheerfully
> informing
> > me that he's got a cd of a cracked copy of windows xp.
> > > Greg
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 03:22:42PM -0400, Alex Snow wrote:
> > > > Sounds just like Microcrap. Hypocritical.
> > > > And about that xp activation thing, it's been cracked.
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
> > > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 7:33 PM
> > > > Subject: interesting story
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi all. Hope this is of interest.
> > > >
> > > > Did Microsoft Flirt With Piracy?
> > > >
> > > > Complaints about open-source software policy
reveal
> > piracy
> > > > rap
> > > > in France.
> > > > Kim Zetter, special to PCWorld.com
> > > > Thursday, May 09, 2002
> > > > While Microsoft cracks down on software pirates
the
> > world
> > > > over, the software giant itself was quietly
> convicted
> > of
> > > > piracy charges in France last fall--and the case,
> > while
> > > > supposedly under appeal, may cost the company some
> > > > business.
> > > > The French division of Microsoft is facing a fine
of
> > about
> > > > $422,000 for illegal use of another company's
source
> > code
> > > > in
> > > > an animation program called Softimage 3D. The
> program
> > has
> > > > been
> > > > used to create such films as The Matrix, Men in
> Black,
> > and
> > > > Star Wars. But the dispute itself was cited by a
> > > > governmental
> > > > buyer who contends Microsoft should not complain
> about
> > > > pirates
> > > > when it is guilty of the same transgression.
> Microsoft
> > did
> > > > not
> > > > respond to requests for comment.
> > > > Borrowed Code
> > > > The issue started in 1995 when Microsoft France
> > purchased
> > > > Softimage, a Canadian company that developed the
3D
> > CGI
> > > > animation program Softimage 3D. The acquired
company
> > was
> > > > accused of illegally lifting source code from a
> > > > proprietary
> > > > program called Character, developed by the owners
of
> > Syn'x
> > > > Relief, a company near Paris.
> > > > In 1994, Softimage had negotiated with Syn'x about
> > > > integrating
> > > > parts of the Character program into Softimage 3D.
> But
> > the
> > > > deal
> > > > fell through when Softimage demanded all rights to
> the
> > > > code,
> > > > according to a report in PC World Malta. In 1995,
> when
> > > > Syn'x
> > > > severed its relationship with Microsoft-Softimage,
> the
> > > > company
> > > > assured Syn'x that it had removed "some or all" of
> > > > Character
> > > > from its software. But Syn'x charges that
> > > > Microsoft-Softimage
> > > > removed only one part of the code, and retained
> eight
> > > > other
> > > > functions that Character's developers had
registered
> > with
> > > > the
> > > > French National Intellectual Property Institute.
> > > > After Syn'x sent two letters to Softimage and
> > Microsoft
> > > > demanding the functions be removed, the company
> filed
> > > > suit. In
> > > > 1998, Microsoft sold Softimage to Avid
Technologies
> > but
> > > > remained responsible for the legal infringements
of
> > its
> > > > former
> > > > wholly owned subsidiary.
> > > > Although Syn'x eventually fell into bankruptcy as
a
> > result
> > > > of
> > > > the case, the program's authors continued their
> fight.
> > > > Last
> > > > September the Commercial Court of Nanterre,
France,
> > > > awarded
> > > > Syn'x the judgment for damages and interest.
> Microsoft
> > has
> > > > vowed to appeal the decision.
> > > > Sales Pitch Rebuffed
> > > > Microsoft's brush with piracy in France came to
> light
> > only
> > > > this week. The case was overshadowed at the time
by
> > the
> > > > focus
> > > > on the September 11 terrorist attacks. But
recently
> a
> > > > Peruvian
> > > > congressman raised the issue in regard to a
> Microsoft
> > > > contract.
> > > > Dr. Edgar David Villanueva Nuñez corresponded in
> April
> > > > with
> > > > Microsoft's general manager in Peru over proposed
> > > > legislation
> > > > there that would require any software used by the
> > Peruvian
> > > > government to be open source (or "free software,"
as
> > it's
> > > > referred to in Peru). Microsoft representatives
> > protested
> > > > the
> > > > plan, writing the congressman that producing
> > open-source
> > > > software makes a software company vulnerable to
> piracy
> > of
> > > > its
> > > > intellectual property by competitors. If Peru
> mandates
> > the
> > > > use
> > > > of open-source software by government agencies, it
> > "would
> > > > establish discriminatory and noncompetitive
> practices
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > contracting and purchasing" of software by public
> > bodies,
> > > > Microsoft stated.
> > > > Nuñez was apparently not persuaded. He replied to
> > > > Microsoft:
> > > > "The inclusion of the intellectual property of
> others
> > in
> > > > works
> > > > claimed as one's own is not a practice that has
been
> > noted
> > > > in
> > > > the [open-source] software community; whereas,
> > > > unfortunately,
> > > > it has been in the area of proprietary software."
He
> > cited
> > > > specifically Microsoft's conviction by the
> Commercial
> > > > Court of
> > > > France, "for violation of intellectual property
> > (piracy,
> > > > to
> > > > use the unfortunate term that your firm commonly
> uses
> > in
> > > > its
> > > > publicity)."
> > > > Meanwhile, Microsoft remains one of the most
> outspoken
> > > > critics
> > > > of piracy, aggressively pursuing violators and
> urging
> > > > authorities to crack down on anyone who illegally
> > copies
> > > > its
> > > > software. The company even went so far as to
include
> > an
> > > > Activation Wizard in Windows XP, which prevents
> > customers
> > > > from
> > > > loading a single copy of XP onto more than one PC.
> The
> > > > company
> > > > amended the policy after user outcry.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > >
> > > >
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> >
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* Re: interesting story
` Octavian Rasnita
@ ` Igor Gueths
` Octavian Rasnita
0 siblings, 1 reply; 36+ messages in thread
From: Igor Gueths @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Hi Tedy. I wonder where you actually obtained teledisk?
----- Original Message -----
From: Octavian Rasnita <orasnita@home.ro>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: interesting story
> The direct link to download it is :
> http://teddy.fcc.ro/prg/teledisk223.zip
>
> Let me know if the server has problems or something.
> It is a dos application.
>
> Teddy,
> orasnita@home.ro
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alex Snow" <alex_snow@gmx.net>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 1:53 AM
> Subject: Re: interesting story
>
>
> I can't seem to find this teledisk program, Whare do I go?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@home.ro>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:19 PM
> Subject: Re: interesting story
>
>
> > Do you know about Teledisk?
> > It is used for creating images of floppy disks with extra sectors and some
> > sectors formatted with another density.
> > www.shaftoffice.com.
> >
> > Teddy,
> > orasnita@home.ro
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Alex Snow" <alex_snow@gmx.net>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 3:05 AM
> > Subject: Re: interesting story
> >
> >
> > You can't image the disk. I think there's hard errors on it to prevent me
> > >from doing just that. The best thing to do is find out exactly what
> > hjauth.exe does. That would be great If I could run 2k or xp on this box
> > aspecially cause I'm running a server.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 6:47 PM
> > Subject: Re: interesting story
> >
> >
> > Hi Alex. Now there's one thing that I don't think has been cracked or
> > avoided yet. I think I could use my box to image an nt authorization, and
> > then copy it onto a fat formatted disk for others to use. Now as for
> > tricking Winblows into thinking that jfw is registered under w2k, will
> have
> > to search the various reg keys for that one.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Alex Snow <alex_snow@gmx.net>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:33 PM
> > Subject: Re: interesting story
> >
> >
> > > So Do I. Can't use it though because I don't got jaws "NT
> authorisation".
> > > Maybe there's a crack for that also?
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romualt.dhs.org>
> > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:28 PM
> > > Subject: Re: interesting story
> > >
> > >
> > > > Yeah. A friend of mine surprised me the other day by cheerfully
> > informing
> > > me that he's got a cd of a cracked copy of windows xp.
> > > > Greg
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 03:22:42PM -0400, Alex Snow wrote:
> > > > > Sounds just like Microcrap. Hypocritical.
> > > > > And about that xp activation thing, it's been cracked.
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
> > > > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 7:33 PM
> > > > > Subject: interesting story
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi all. Hope this is of interest.
> > > > >
> > > > > Did Microsoft Flirt With Piracy?
> > > > >
> > > > > Complaints about open-source software policy
> reveal
> > > piracy
> > > > > rap
> > > > > in France.
> > > > > Kim Zetter, special to PCWorld.com
> > > > > Thursday, May 09, 2002
> > > > > While Microsoft cracks down on software pirates
> the
> > > world
> > > > > over, the software giant itself was quietly
> > convicted
> > > of
> > > > > piracy charges in France last fall--and the case,
> > > while
> > > > > supposedly under appeal, may cost the company some
> > > > > business.
> > > > > The French division of Microsoft is facing a fine
> of
> > > about
> > > > > $422,000 for illegal use of another company's
> source
> > > code
> > > > > in
> > > > > an animation program called Softimage 3D. The
> > program
> > > has
> > > > > been
> > > > > used to create such films as The Matrix, Men in
> > Black,
> > > and
> > > > > Star Wars. But the dispute itself was cited by a
> > > > > governmental
> > > > > buyer who contends Microsoft should not complain
> > about
> > > > > pirates
> > > > > when it is guilty of the same transgression.
> > Microsoft
> > > did
> > > > > not
> > > > > respond to requests for comment.
> > > > > Borrowed Code
> > > > > The issue started in 1995 when Microsoft France
> > > purchased
> > > > > Softimage, a Canadian company that developed the
> 3D
> > > CGI
> > > > > animation program Softimage 3D. The acquired
> company
> > > was
> > > > > accused of illegally lifting source code from a
> > > > > proprietary
> > > > > program called Character, developed by the owners
> of
> > > Syn'x
> > > > > Relief, a company near Paris.
> > > > > In 1994, Softimage had negotiated with Syn'x about
> > > > > integrating
> > > > > parts of the Character program into Softimage 3D.
> > But
> > > the
> > > > > deal
> > > > > fell through when Softimage demanded all rights to
> > the
> > > > > code,
> > > > > according to a report in PC World Malta. In 1995,
> > when
> > > > > Syn'x
> > > > > severed its relationship with Microsoft-Softimage,
> > the
> > > > > company
> > > > > assured Syn'x that it had removed "some or all" of
> > > > > Character
> > > > > from its software. But Syn'x charges that
> > > > > Microsoft-Softimage
> > > > > removed only one part of the code, and retained
> > eight
> > > > > other
> > > > > functions that Character's developers had
> registered
> > > with
> > > > > the
> > > > > French National Intellectual Property Institute.
> > > > > After Syn'x sent two letters to Softimage and
> > > Microsoft
> > > > > demanding the functions be removed, the company
> > filed
> > > > > suit. In
> > > > > 1998, Microsoft sold Softimage to Avid
> Technologies
> > > but
> > > > > remained responsible for the legal infringements
> of
> > > its
> > > > > former
> > > > > wholly owned subsidiary.
> > > > > Although Syn'x eventually fell into bankruptcy as
> a
> > > result
> > > > > of
> > > > > the case, the program's authors continued their
> > fight.
> > > > > Last
> > > > > September the Commercial Court of Nanterre,
> France,
> > > > > awarded
> > > > > Syn'x the judgment for damages and interest.
> > Microsoft
> > > has
> > > > > vowed to appeal the decision.
> > > > > Sales Pitch Rebuffed
> > > > > Microsoft's brush with piracy in France came to
> > light
> > > only
> > > > > this week. The case was overshadowed at the time
> by
> > > the
> > > > > focus
> > > > > on the September 11 terrorist attacks. But
> recently
> > a
> > > > > Peruvian
> > > > > congressman raised the issue in regard to a
> > Microsoft
> > > > > contract.
> > > > > Dr. Edgar David Villanueva Nuñez corresponded in
> > April
> > > > > with
> > > > > Microsoft's general manager in Peru over proposed
> > > > > legislation
> > > > > there that would require any software used by the
> > > Peruvian
> > > > > government to be open source (or "free software,"
> as
> > > it's
> > > > > referred to in Peru). Microsoft representatives
> > > protested
> > > > > the
> > > > > plan, writing the congressman that producing
> > > open-source
> > > > > software makes a software company vulnerable to
> > piracy
> > > of
> > > > > its
> > > > > intellectual property by competitors. If Peru
> > mandates
> > > the
> > > > > use
> > > > > of open-source software by government agencies, it
> > > "would
> > > > > establish discriminatory and noncompetitive
> > practices
> > > in
> > > > > the
> > > > > contracting and purchasing" of software by public
> > > bodies,
> > > > > Microsoft stated.
> > > > > Nuñez was apparently not persuaded. He replied to
> > > > > Microsoft:
> > > > > "The inclusion of the intellectual property of
> > others
> > > in
> > > > > works
> > > > > claimed as one's own is not a practice that has
> been
> > > noted
> > > > > in
> > > > > the [open-source] software community; whereas,
> > > > > unfortunately,
> > > > > it has been in the area of proprietary software."
> He
> > > cited
> > > > > specifically Microsoft's conviction by the
> > Commercial
> > > > > Court of
> > > > > France, "for violation of intellectual property
> > > (piracy,
> > > > > to
> > > > > use the unfortunate term that your firm commonly
> > uses
> > > in
> > > > > its
> > > > > publicity)."
> > > > > Meanwhile, Microsoft remains one of the most
> > outspoken
> > > > > critics
> > > > > of piracy, aggressively pursuing violators and
> > urging
> > > > > authorities to crack down on anyone who illegally
> > > copies
> > > > > its
> > > > > software. The company even went so far as to
> include
> > > an
> > > > > Activation Wizard in Windows XP, which prevents
> > > customers
> > > > > from
> > > > > loading a single copy of XP onto more than one PC.
> > The
> > > > > company
> > > > > amended the policy after user outcry.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 36+ messages in thread
* Re: interesting story
` Igor Gueths
@ ` Octavian Rasnita
` Alex Snow
0 siblings, 1 reply; 36+ messages in thread
From: Octavian Rasnita @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
>From www.netcava.net.
However, that site, even though it has some nice programs, need a password,
a registration, etc.
Teddy,
orasnita@home.ro
----- Original Message -----
From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 3:59 AM
Subject: Re: interesting story
Hi Tedy. I wonder where you actually obtained teledisk?
----- Original Message -----
From: Octavian Rasnita <orasnita@home.ro>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 8:49 PM
Subject: Re: interesting story
> The direct link to download it is :
> http://teddy.fcc.ro/prg/teledisk223.zip
>
> Let me know if the server has problems or something.
> It is a dos application.
>
> Teddy,
> orasnita@home.ro
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alex Snow" <alex_snow@gmx.net>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 1:53 AM
> Subject: Re: interesting story
>
>
> I can't seem to find this teledisk program, Whare do I go?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@home.ro>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:19 PM
> Subject: Re: interesting story
>
>
> > Do you know about Teledisk?
> > It is used for creating images of floppy disks with extra sectors and
some
> > sectors formatted with another density.
> > www.shaftoffice.com.
> >
> > Teddy,
> > orasnita@home.ro
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Alex Snow" <alex_snow@gmx.net>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 3:05 AM
> > Subject: Re: interesting story
> >
> >
> > You can't image the disk. I think there's hard errors on it to prevent
me
> > >from doing just that. The best thing to do is find out exactly what
> > hjauth.exe does. That would be great If I could run 2k or xp on this
box
> > aspecially cause I'm running a server.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 6:47 PM
> > Subject: Re: interesting story
> >
> >
> > Hi Alex. Now there's one thing that I don't think has been cracked or
> > avoided yet. I think I could use my box to image an nt authorization,
and
> > then copy it onto a fat formatted disk for others to use. Now as for
> > tricking Winblows into thinking that jfw is registered under w2k, will
> have
> > to search the various reg keys for that one.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Alex Snow <alex_snow@gmx.net>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:33 PM
> > Subject: Re: interesting story
> >
> >
> > > So Do I. Can't use it though because I don't got jaws "NT
> authorisation".
> > > Maybe there's a crack for that also?
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romualt.dhs.org>
> > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:28 PM
> > > Subject: Re: interesting story
> > >
> > >
> > > > Yeah. A friend of mine surprised me the other day by cheerfully
> > informing
> > > me that he's got a cd of a cracked copy of windows xp.
> > > > Greg
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 03:22:42PM -0400, Alex Snow wrote:
> > > > > Sounds just like Microcrap. Hypocritical.
> > > > > And about that xp activation thing, it's been cracked.
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
> > > > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 7:33 PM
> > > > > Subject: interesting story
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi all. Hope this is of interest.
> > > > >
> > > > > Did Microsoft Flirt With Piracy?
> > > > >
> > > > > Complaints about open-source software policy
> reveal
> > > piracy
> > > > > rap
> > > > > in France.
> > > > > Kim Zetter, special to PCWorld.com
> > > > > Thursday, May 09, 2002
> > > > > While Microsoft cracks down on software pirates
> the
> > > world
> > > > > over, the software giant itself was quietly
> > convicted
> > > of
> > > > > piracy charges in France last fall--and the
case,
> > > while
> > > > > supposedly under appeal, may cost the company
some
> > > > > business.
> > > > > The French division of Microsoft is facing a
fine
> of
> > > about
> > > > > $422,000 for illegal use of another company's
> source
> > > code
> > > > > in
> > > > > an animation program called Softimage 3D. The
> > program
> > > has
> > > > > been
> > > > > used to create such films as The Matrix, Men in
> > Black,
> > > and
> > > > > Star Wars. But the dispute itself was cited by a
> > > > > governmental
> > > > > buyer who contends Microsoft should not complain
> > about
> > > > > pirates
> > > > > when it is guilty of the same transgression.
> > Microsoft
> > > did
> > > > > not
> > > > > respond to requests for comment.
> > > > > Borrowed Code
> > > > > The issue started in 1995 when Microsoft France
> > > purchased
> > > > > Softimage, a Canadian company that developed the
> 3D
> > > CGI
> > > > > animation program Softimage 3D. The acquired
> company
> > > was
> > > > > accused of illegally lifting source code from a
> > > > > proprietary
> > > > > program called Character, developed by the
owners
> of
> > > Syn'x
> > > > > Relief, a company near Paris.
> > > > > In 1994, Softimage had negotiated with Syn'x
about
> > > > > integrating
> > > > > parts of the Character program into Softimage
3D.
> > But
> > > the
> > > > > deal
> > > > > fell through when Softimage demanded all rights
to
> > the
> > > > > code,
> > > > > according to a report in PC World Malta. In
1995,
> > when
> > > > > Syn'x
> > > > > severed its relationship with
Microsoft-Softimage,
> > the
> > > > > company
> > > > > assured Syn'x that it had removed "some or all"
of
> > > > > Character
> > > > > from its software. But Syn'x charges that
> > > > > Microsoft-Softimage
> > > > > removed only one part of the code, and retained
> > eight
> > > > > other
> > > > > functions that Character's developers had
> registered
> > > with
> > > > > the
> > > > > French National Intellectual Property Institute.
> > > > > After Syn'x sent two letters to Softimage and
> > > Microsoft
> > > > > demanding the functions be removed, the company
> > filed
> > > > > suit. In
> > > > > 1998, Microsoft sold Softimage to Avid
> Technologies
> > > but
> > > > > remained responsible for the legal infringements
> of
> > > its
> > > > > former
> > > > > wholly owned subsidiary.
> > > > > Although Syn'x eventually fell into bankruptcy
as
> a
> > > result
> > > > > of
> > > > > the case, the program's authors continued their
> > fight.
> > > > > Last
> > > > > September the Commercial Court of Nanterre,
> France,
> > > > > awarded
> > > > > Syn'x the judgment for damages and interest.
> > Microsoft
> > > has
> > > > > vowed to appeal the decision.
> > > > > Sales Pitch Rebuffed
> > > > > Microsoft's brush with piracy in France came to
> > light
> > > only
> > > > > this week. The case was overshadowed at the time
> by
> > > the
> > > > > focus
> > > > > on the September 11 terrorist attacks. But
> recently
> > a
> > > > > Peruvian
> > > > > congressman raised the issue in regard to a
> > Microsoft
> > > > > contract.
> > > > > Dr. Edgar David Villanueva Nuñez corresponded in
> > April
> > > > > with
> > > > > Microsoft's general manager in Peru over
proposed
> > > > > legislation
> > > > > there that would require any software used by
the
> > > Peruvian
> > > > > government to be open source (or "free
software,"
> as
> > > it's
> > > > > referred to in Peru). Microsoft representatives
> > > protested
> > > > > the
> > > > > plan, writing the congressman that producing
> > > open-source
> > > > > software makes a software company vulnerable to
> > piracy
> > > of
> > > > > its
> > > > > intellectual property by competitors. If Peru
> > mandates
> > > the
> > > > > use
> > > > > of open-source software by government agencies,
it
> > > "would
> > > > > establish discriminatory and noncompetitive
> > practices
> > > in
> > > > > the
> > > > > contracting and purchasing" of software by
public
> > > bodies,
> > > > > Microsoft stated.
> > > > > Nuñez was apparently not persuaded. He replied
to
> > > > > Microsoft:
> > > > > "The inclusion of the intellectual property of
> > others
> > > in
> > > > > works
> > > > > claimed as one's own is not a practice that has
> been
> > > noted
> > > > > in
> > > > > the [open-source] software community; whereas,
> > > > > unfortunately,
> > > > > it has been in the area of proprietary
software."
> He
> > > cited
> > > > > specifically Microsoft's conviction by the
> > Commercial
> > > > > Court of
> > > > > France, "for violation of intellectual property
> > > (piracy,
> > > > > to
> > > > > use the unfortunate term that your firm commonly
> > uses
> > > in
> > > > > its
> > > > > publicity)."
> > > > > Meanwhile, Microsoft remains one of the most
> > outspoken
> > > > > critics
> > > > > of piracy, aggressively pursuing violators and
> > urging
> > > > > authorities to crack down on anyone who
illegally
> > > copies
> > > > > its
> > > > > software. The company even went so far as to
> include
> > > an
> > > > > Activation Wizard in Windows XP, which prevents
> > > customers
> > > > > from
> > > > > loading a single copy of XP onto more than one
PC.
> > The
> > > > > company
> > > > > amended the policy after user outcry.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> >
> >
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> >
>
>
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>
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 36+ messages in thread
* Re: interesting story
` Octavian Rasnita
@ ` Alex Snow
0 siblings, 0 replies; 36+ messages in thread
From: Alex Snow @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
The site is down right now, I get some dns2crap page that says that the
client is not online, so I'll try later.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@home.ro>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 9:57 PM
Subject: Re: interesting story
> >From www.netcava.net.
>
> However, that site, even though it has some nice programs, need a
password,
> a registration, etc.
>
> Teddy,
> orasnita@home.ro
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 3:59 AM
> Subject: Re: interesting story
>
>
> Hi Tedy. I wonder where you actually obtained teledisk?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Octavian Rasnita <orasnita@home.ro>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 8:49 PM
> Subject: Re: interesting story
>
>
> > The direct link to download it is :
> > http://teddy.fcc.ro/prg/teledisk223.zip
> >
> > Let me know if the server has problems or something.
> > It is a dos application.
> >
> > Teddy,
> > orasnita@home.ro
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Alex Snow" <alex_snow@gmx.net>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 1:53 AM
> > Subject: Re: interesting story
> >
> >
> > I can't seem to find this teledisk program, Whare do I go?
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@home.ro>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 9:19 PM
> > Subject: Re: interesting story
> >
> >
> > > Do you know about Teledisk?
> > > It is used for creating images of floppy disks with extra sectors and
> some
> > > sectors formatted with another density.
> > > www.shaftoffice.com.
> > >
> > > Teddy,
> > > orasnita@home.ro
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Alex Snow" <alex_snow@gmx.net>
> > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 3:05 AM
> > > Subject: Re: interesting story
> > >
> > >
> > > You can't image the disk. I think there's hard errors on it to
prevent
> me
> > > >from doing just that. The best thing to do is find out exactly what
> > > hjauth.exe does. That would be great If I could run 2k or xp on this
> box
> > > aspecially cause I'm running a server.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
> > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 6:47 PM
> > > Subject: Re: interesting story
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Alex. Now there's one thing that I don't think has been cracked or
> > > avoided yet. I think I could use my box to image an nt authorization,
> and
> > > then copy it onto a fat formatted disk for others to use. Now as for
> > > tricking Winblows into thinking that jfw is registered under w2k, will
> > have
> > > to search the various reg keys for that one.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Alex Snow <alex_snow@gmx.net>
> > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:33 PM
> > > Subject: Re: interesting story
> > >
> > >
> > > > So Do I. Can't use it though because I don't got jaws "NT
> > authorisation".
> > > > Maybe there's a crack for that also?
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romualt.dhs.org>
> > > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 3:28 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: interesting story
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Yeah. A friend of mine surprised me the other day by cheerfully
> > > informing
> > > > me that he's got a cd of a cracked copy of windows xp.
> > > > > Greg
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, May 15, 2002 at 03:22:42PM -0400, Alex Snow wrote:
> > > > > > Sounds just like Microcrap. Hypocritical.
> > > > > > And about that xp activation thing, it's been cracked.
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Igor Gueths" <igueths@attbi.com>
> > > > > > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 7:33 PM
> > > > > > Subject: interesting story
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi all. Hope this is of interest.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Did Microsoft Flirt With Piracy?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Complaints about open-source software policy
> > reveal
> > > > piracy
> > > > > > rap
> > > > > > in France.
> > > > > > Kim Zetter, special to PCWorld.com
> > > > > > Thursday, May 09, 2002
> > > > > > While Microsoft cracks down on software
pirates
> > the
> > > > world
> > > > > > over, the software giant itself was quietly
> > > convicted
> > > > of
> > > > > > piracy charges in France last fall--and the
> case,
> > > > while
> > > > > > supposedly under appeal, may cost the company
> some
> > > > > > business.
> > > > > > The French division of Microsoft is facing a
> fine
> > of
> > > > about
> > > > > > $422,000 for illegal use of another company's
> > source
> > > > code
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > an animation program called Softimage 3D. The
> > > program
> > > > has
> > > > > > been
> > > > > > used to create such films as The Matrix, Men
in
> > > Black,
> > > > and
> > > > > > Star Wars. But the dispute itself was cited by
a
> > > > > > governmental
> > > > > > buyer who contends Microsoft should not
complain
> > > about
> > > > > > pirates
> > > > > > when it is guilty of the same transgression.
> > > Microsoft
> > > > did
> > > > > > not
> > > > > > respond to requests for comment.
> > > > > > Borrowed Code
> > > > > > The issue started in 1995 when Microsoft
France
> > > > purchased
> > > > > > Softimage, a Canadian company that developed
the
> > 3D
> > > > CGI
> > > > > > animation program Softimage 3D. The acquired
> > company
> > > > was
> > > > > > accused of illegally lifting source code from
a
> > > > > > proprietary
> > > > > > program called Character, developed by the
> owners
> > of
> > > > Syn'x
> > > > > > Relief, a company near Paris.
> > > > > > In 1994, Softimage had negotiated with Syn'x
> about
> > > > > > integrating
> > > > > > parts of the Character program into Softimage
> 3D.
> > > But
> > > > the
> > > > > > deal
> > > > > > fell through when Softimage demanded all
rights
> to
> > > the
> > > > > > code,
> > > > > > according to a report in PC World Malta. In
> 1995,
> > > when
> > > > > > Syn'x
> > > > > > severed its relationship with
> Microsoft-Softimage,
> > > the
> > > > > > company
> > > > > > assured Syn'x that it had removed "some or
all"
> of
> > > > > > Character
> > > > > > from its software. But Syn'x charges that
> > > > > > Microsoft-Softimage
> > > > > > removed only one part of the code, and
retained
> > > eight
> > > > > > other
> > > > > > functions that Character's developers had
> > registered
> > > > with
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > French National Intellectual Property
Institute.
> > > > > > After Syn'x sent two letters to Softimage and
> > > > Microsoft
> > > > > > demanding the functions be removed, the
company
> > > filed
> > > > > > suit. In
> > > > > > 1998, Microsoft sold Softimage to Avid
> > Technologies
> > > > but
> > > > > > remained responsible for the legal
infringements
> > of
> > > > its
> > > > > > former
> > > > > > wholly owned subsidiary.
> > > > > > Although Syn'x eventually fell into bankruptcy
> as
> > a
> > > > result
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > the case, the program's authors continued
their
> > > fight.
> > > > > > Last
> > > > > > September the Commercial Court of Nanterre,
> > France,
> > > > > > awarded
> > > > > > Syn'x the judgment for damages and interest.
> > > Microsoft
> > > > has
> > > > > > vowed to appeal the decision.
> > > > > > Sales Pitch Rebuffed
> > > > > > Microsoft's brush with piracy in France came
to
> > > light
> > > > only
> > > > > > this week. The case was overshadowed at the
time
> > by
> > > > the
> > > > > > focus
> > > > > > on the September 11 terrorist attacks. But
> > recently
> > > a
> > > > > > Peruvian
> > > > > > congressman raised the issue in regard to a
> > > Microsoft
> > > > > > contract.
> > > > > > Dr. Edgar David Villanueva Nuñez corresponded
in
> > > April
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > Microsoft's general manager in Peru over
> proposed
> > > > > > legislation
> > > > > > there that would require any software used by
> the
> > > > Peruvian
> > > > > > government to be open source (or "free
> software,"
> > as
> > > > it's
> > > > > > referred to in Peru). Microsoft
representatives
> > > > protested
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > plan, writing the congressman that producing
> > > > open-source
> > > > > > software makes a software company vulnerable
to
> > > piracy
> > > > of
> > > > > > its
> > > > > > intellectual property by competitors. If Peru
> > > mandates
> > > > the
> > > > > > use
> > > > > > of open-source software by government
agencies,
> it
> > > > "would
> > > > > > establish discriminatory and noncompetitive
> > > practices
> > > > in
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > contracting and purchasing" of software by
> public
> > > > bodies,
> > > > > > Microsoft stated.
> > > > > > Nuñez was apparently not persuaded. He replied
> to
> > > > > > Microsoft:
> > > > > > "The inclusion of the intellectual property of
> > > others
> > > > in
> > > > > > works
> > > > > > claimed as one's own is not a practice that
has
> > been
> > > > noted
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > the [open-source] software community; whereas,
> > > > > > unfortunately,
> > > > > > it has been in the area of proprietary
> software."
> > He
> > > > cited
> > > > > > specifically Microsoft's conviction by the
> > > Commercial
> > > > > > Court of
> > > > > > France, "for violation of intellectual
property
> > > > (piracy,
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > use the unfortunate term that your firm
commonly
> > > uses
> > > > in
> > > > > > its
> > > > > > publicity)."
> > > > > > Meanwhile, Microsoft remains one of the most
> > > outspoken
> > > > > > critics
> > > > > > of piracy, aggressively pursuing violators and
> > > urging
> > > > > > authorities to crack down on anyone who
> illegally
> > > > copies
> > > > > > its
> > > > > > software. The company even went so far as to
> > include
> > > > an
> > > > > > Activation Wizard in Windows XP, which
prevents
> > > > customers
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > loading a single copy of XP onto more than one
> PC.
> > > The
> > > > > > company
> > > > > > amended the policy after user outcry.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > Speakup mailing list
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> > > > > >
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 36+ messages in thread
* Re: interesting story
` Octavian Rasnita
@ ` Alex Snow
` Octavian Rasnita
0 siblings, 1 reply; 36+ messages in thread
From: Alex Snow @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
What is the exact command line you used so I can try it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@home.ro>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: interesting story
> Hi,
>
> I need to tell you that I've destroyed a Jaws key just creating a ghhost
> image.
> I could restore it back when restoring the image created. Strange, I know.
> But this didn't happen me all the time. Only 2 times.
>
> Teddy,
> orasnita@home.ro
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alex Snow" <alex_snow@gmx.net>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 1:25 PM
> Subject: Re: interesting story
>
>
> good. I got norton ghost 2002 on this box, and I'll give it a try.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@home.ro>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:57 PM
> Subject: Re: interesting story
>
>
> > I remember that someone tried but with no success with dd.
> > Maybe it should try better, I don't know, but the idea is to create a
> > partition only with that key on it and to put that image there.
> >
> > But it is more simple to do it this way with Norton Ghost with the -ia
> > parameter.
> > Teledisk is easier to use however.
> >
> > Teddy,
> > orasnita@home.ro
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Toby Fisher" <toby_fisher@bigfoot.com>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 5:44 AM
> > Subject: Re: interesting story
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 16 May 2002, Octavian Rasnita wrote:
> >
> > > Yes you can do it under Linux but I am not a Linux expert so I don't
> know
> > > exactly how it was done.
> > > There are no Registry settings that need to be changed.
> > > There is only that key file from your hard disk that needs to be
copied.
> >
> > I reckon that dd might be a good place to start.
> >
> > Cheers.
> >
> > --
> > Toby Fisher Email: toby@g0ucu.freeserve.co.uk
> > Tel.: +44(0)1480 417272 Mobile: +44(0)7974 363239
> > ICQ: #61744808
> > Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
> > See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
> >
> > > > > > Syn'x
> > > > > > severed its relationship with
> Microsoft-Softimage,
> > > the
> > > > > > company
> > > > > > assured Syn'x that it had removed "some or
all"
> of
> > > > > > Character
> > > > > > from its software. But Syn'x charges that
> > > > > > Microsoft-Softimage
> > > > > > removed only one part of the code, and
retained
> > > eight
> > > > > > other
> > > > > > functions that Character's developers had
> > registered
> > > > with
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > French National Intellectual Property
Institute.
> > > > > > After Syn'x sent two letters to Softimage and
> > > > Microsoft
> > > > > > demanding the functions be removed, the
company
> > > filed
> > > > > > suit. In
> > > > > > 1998, Microsoft sold Softimage to Avid
> > Technologies
> > > > but
> > > > > > remained responsible for the legal
infringements
> > of
> > > > its
> > > > > > former
> > > > > > wholly owned subsidiary.
> > > > > > Although Syn'x eventually fell into bankruptcy
> as
> > a
> > > > result
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > the case, the program's authors continued
their
> > > fight.
> > > > > > Last
> > > > > > September the Commercial Court of Nanterre,
> > France,
> > > > > > awarded
> > > > > > Syn'x the judgment for damages and interest.
> > > Microsoft
> > > > has
> > > > > > vowed to appeal the decision.
> > > > > > Sales Pitch Rebuffed
> > > > > > Microsoft's brush with piracy in France came
to
> > > light
> > > > only
> > > > > > this week. The case was overshadowed at the
time
> > by
> > > > the
> > > > > > focus
> > > > > > on the September 11 terrorist attacks. But
> > recently
> > > a
> > > > > > Peruvian
> > > > > > congressman raised the issue in regard to a
> > > Microsoft
> > > > > > contract.
> > > > > > Dr. Edgar David Villanueva Nuñez corresponded
in
> > > April
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > Microsoft's general manager in Peru over
> proposed
> > > > > > legislation
> > > > > > there that would require any software used by
> the
> > > > Peruvian
> > > > > > government to be open source (or "free
> software,"
> > as
> > > > it's
> > > > > > referred to in Peru). Microsoft
representatives
> > > > protested
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > plan, writing the congressman that producing
> > > > open-source
> > > > > > software makes a software company vulnerable
to
> > > piracy
> > > > of
> > > > > > its
> > > > > > intellectual property by competitors. If Peru
> > > mandates
> > > > the
> > > > > > use
> > > > > > of open-source software by government
agencies,
> it
> > > > "would
> > > > > > establish discriminatory and noncompetitive
> > > practices
> > > > in
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > contracting and purchasing" of software by
> public
> > > > bodies,
> > > > > > Microsoft stated.
> > > > > > Nuñez was apparently not persuaded. He replied
> to
> > > > > > Microsoft:
> > > > > > "The inclusion of the intellectual property of
> > > others
> > > > in
> > > > > > works
> > > > > > claimed as one's own is not a practice that
has
> > been
> > > > noted
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > the [open-source] software community; whereas,
> > > > > > unfortunately,
> > > > > > it has been in the area of proprietary
> software."
> > He
> > > > cited
> > > > > > specifically Microsoft's conviction by the
> > > Commercial
> > > > > > Court of
> > > > > > France, "for violation of intellectual
property
> > > > (piracy,
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > use the unfortunate term that your firm
commonly
> > > uses
> > > > in
> > > > > > its
> > > > > > publicity)."
> > > > > > Meanwhile, Microsoft remains one of the most
> > > outspoken
> > > > > > critics
> > > > > > of piracy, aggressively pursuing violators and
> > > urging
> > > > > > authorities to crack down on anyone who
> illegally
> > > > copies
> > > > > > its
> > > > > > software. The company even went so far as to
> > include
> > > > an
> > > > > > Activation Wizard in Windows XP, which
prevents
> > > > customers
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > loading a single copy of XP onto more than one
> PC.
> > > The
> > > > > > company
> > > > > > amended the policy after user outcry.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Speakup mailing list
> > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Speakup mailing list
> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Toby Fisher Email: toby@g0ucu.freeserve.co.uk
> > Tel.: +44(0)1480 417272 Mobile: +44(0)7974 363239
> > ICQ: #61744808
> > Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
> > See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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>
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 36+ messages in thread
* Re: interesting story
` Alex Snow
@ ` Octavian Rasnita
0 siblings, 0 replies; 36+ messages in thread
From: Octavian Rasnita @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
The command for creating a ghost image of Partition G (where is only my key
for Jaws) is:
ghost -clone,mode=pdump,src=1:5,dst=e:\Jaws.gho -sure -ia -rb
This will put the image file on the drive E.
>From there you can restore it back with the following command line:
ghost -clone,mode=pload,src=e:\jaws.gho:1,dst=1:5 -batch -rb
You don't need to use the -z9 parameter because you can't compress the image
file if you create the image with the -ia parameter.
So the image file will be as big as the partition size, even though will be
a lot of free space on the partition.
You should create the smallest partition possible with Partition Magic or
other program, and put the jaws key there.
However, take care. If you will put the Jaws key on another partition than
C: you won't be able to take the key back on the floppy using hjauth.exe.
Cheers.
Teddy,
orasnita@home.ro
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alex Snow" <alex_snow@gmx.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 1:29 PM
Subject: Re: interesting story
What is the exact command line you used so I can try it.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@home.ro>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: interesting story
> Hi,
>
> I need to tell you that I've destroyed a Jaws key just creating a ghhost
> image.
> I could restore it back when restoring the image created. Strange, I know.
> But this didn't happen me all the time. Only 2 times.
>
> Teddy,
> orasnita@home.ro
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Alex Snow" <alex_snow@gmx.net>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 1:25 PM
> Subject: Re: interesting story
>
>
> good. I got norton ghost 2002 on this box, and I'll give it a try.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Octavian Rasnita" <orasnita@home.ro>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2002 11:57 PM
> Subject: Re: interesting story
>
>
> > I remember that someone tried but with no success with dd.
> > Maybe it should try better, I don't know, but the idea is to create a
> > partition only with that key on it and to put that image there.
> >
> > But it is more simple to do it this way with Norton Ghost with the -ia
> > parameter.
> > Teledisk is easier to use however.
> >
> > Teddy,
> > orasnita@home.ro
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Toby Fisher" <toby_fisher@bigfoot.com>
> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 5:44 AM
> > Subject: Re: interesting story
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 16 May 2002, Octavian Rasnita wrote:
> >
> > > Yes you can do it under Linux but I am not a Linux expert so I don't
> know
> > > exactly how it was done.
> > > There are no Registry settings that need to be changed.
> > > There is only that key file from your hard disk that needs to be
copied.
> >
> > I reckon that dd might be a good place to start.
> >
> > Cheers.
> >
> > --
> > Toby Fisher Email: toby@g0ucu.freeserve.co.uk
> > Tel.: +44(0)1480 417272 Mobile: +44(0)7974 363239
> > ICQ: #61744808
> > Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
> > See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
> >
> > > > > > Syn'x
> > > > > > severed its relationship with
> Microsoft-Softimage,
> > > the
> > > > > > company
> > > > > > assured Syn'x that it had removed "some or
all"
> of
> > > > > > Character
> > > > > > from its software. But Syn'x charges that
> > > > > > Microsoft-Softimage
> > > > > > removed only one part of the code, and
retained
> > > eight
> > > > > > other
> > > > > > functions that Character's developers had
> > registered
> > > > with
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > French National Intellectual Property
Institute.
> > > > > > After Syn'x sent two letters to Softimage and
> > > > Microsoft
> > > > > > demanding the functions be removed, the
company
> > > filed
> > > > > > suit. In
> > > > > > 1998, Microsoft sold Softimage to Avid
> > Technologies
> > > > but
> > > > > > remained responsible for the legal
infringements
> > of
> > > > its
> > > > > > former
> > > > > > wholly owned subsidiary.
> > > > > > Although Syn'x eventually fell into bankruptcy
> as
> > a
> > > > result
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > the case, the program's authors continued
their
> > > fight.
> > > > > > Last
> > > > > > September the Commercial Court of Nanterre,
> > France,
> > > > > > awarded
> > > > > > Syn'x the judgment for damages and interest.
> > > Microsoft
> > > > has
> > > > > > vowed to appeal the decision.
> > > > > > Sales Pitch Rebuffed
> > > > > > Microsoft's brush with piracy in France came
to
> > > light
> > > > only
> > > > > > this week. The case was overshadowed at the
time
> > by
> > > > the
> > > > > > focus
> > > > > > on the September 11 terrorist attacks. But
> > recently
> > > a
> > > > > > Peruvian
> > > > > > congressman raised the issue in regard to a
> > > Microsoft
> > > > > > contract.
> > > > > > Dr. Edgar David Villanueva Nuñez corresponded
in
> > > April
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > Microsoft's general manager in Peru over
> proposed
> > > > > > legislation
> > > > > > there that would require any software used by
> the
> > > > Peruvian
> > > > > > government to be open source (or "free
> software,"
> > as
> > > > it's
> > > > > > referred to in Peru). Microsoft
representatives
> > > > protested
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > plan, writing the congressman that producing
> > > > open-source
> > > > > > software makes a software company vulnerable
to
> > > piracy
> > > > of
> > > > > > its
> > > > > > intellectual property by competitors. If Peru
> > > mandates
> > > > the
> > > > > > use
> > > > > > of open-source software by government
agencies,
> it
> > > > "would
> > > > > > establish discriminatory and noncompetitive
> > > practices
> > > > in
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > contracting and purchasing" of software by
> public
> > > > bodies,
> > > > > > Microsoft stated.
> > > > > > Nuñez was apparently not persuaded. He replied
> to
> > > > > > Microsoft:
> > > > > > "The inclusion of the intellectual property of
> > > others
> > > > in
> > > > > > works
> > > > > > claimed as one's own is not a practice that
has
> > been
> > > > noted
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > the [open-source] software community; whereas,
> > > > > > unfortunately,
> > > > > > it has been in the area of proprietary
> software."
> > He
> > > > cited
> > > > > > specifically Microsoft's conviction by the
> > > Commercial
> > > > > > Court of
> > > > > > France, "for violation of intellectual
property
> > > > (piracy,
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > use the unfortunate term that your firm
commonly
> > > uses
> > > > in
> > > > > > its
> > > > > > publicity)."
> > > > > > Meanwhile, Microsoft remains one of the most
> > > outspoken
> > > > > > critics
> > > > > > of piracy, aggressively pursuing violators and
> > > urging
> > > > > > authorities to crack down on anyone who
> illegally
> > > > copies
> > > > > > its
> > > > > > software. The company even went so far as to
> > include
> > > > an
> > > > > > Activation Wizard in Windows XP, which
prevents
> > > > customers
> > > > > > from
> > > > > > loading a single copy of XP onto more than one
> PC.
> > > The
> > > > > > company
> > > > > > amended the policy after user outcry.
> > > > > >
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