* Sending mail via ISP's smtp server @ Garrett Klein ` Raul A. Gallegos ` Steve Holmes 0 siblings, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Garrett Klein @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi all, I would like to send email through my ISP's smtp server, not my own, since the return address only works when this machine is in Linux, with my dyndns account updated. I've told mutt to fake my from: header to say kleins@iquest.net just so I can send messages here, but would like to use mail.iquest.net to send messages if at all possible. I know pine can do this, but pine is evil, IMHO. Garrett ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: Sending mail via ISP's smtp server Sending mail via ISP's smtp server Garrett Klein @ ` Raul A. Gallegos ` Garrett Klein ` Steve Holmes 1 sibling, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Raul A. Gallegos @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Depending on the mta you use this can be accomplished differently. I use exim and have it configured to use my isp smtp server for all outgoing mail through my Linux host. -- Raul a. Gallegos - http://www.asmodean.net Do you like 80's music? Do you want to spend some time on Saturdays listening? Visit http://www.chosen80s.com for all the details. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: Sending mail via ISP's smtp server ` Raul A. Gallegos @ ` Garrett Klein ` Raul A. Gallegos 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Garrett Klein @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I am using Sendmail. But can't Mutt just use my ISP's smtp server without needing sendmail inbetween?On Fri, Jan 16, 2004 at 03:48:01PM -0600, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: > Depending on the mta you use this can be accomplished differently. I > use exim and have it configured to use my isp smtp server for all > outgoing mail through my Linux host. > > > -- > Raul a. Gallegos - http://www.asmodean.net > Do you like 80's music? Do you want to spend some time on Saturdays listening? > Visit http://www.chosen80s.com for all the details. > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: Sending mail via ISP's smtp server ` Garrett Klein @ ` Raul A. Gallegos ` Steve Holmes 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Raul A. Gallegos @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Garrett Klein said the following on Fri, Jan 16, 2004 at 05:42:11PM -0500: > I am using Sendmail. But can't Mutt just use my ISP's smtp server > without needing sendmail inbetween? Not to my knowledge. Mutt will still call sendmail to do the actual transporting of the mail. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: Sending mail via ISP's smtp server ` Raul A. Gallegos @ ` Steve Holmes ` Garrett Klein 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Steve Holmes @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup On Fri, Jan 16, 2004 at 04:45:26PM -0600, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: > Not to my knowledge. Mutt will still call sendmail to do the actual > transporting of the mail. > Yes, I vaguely remember asking on the mutt list once if one could do that and they said "no!" mutt calls sendmail directly - not via TCP/IP but by directly spawning the process. In fact, in order to use exim like we do, we need to have a program out there called 'sendmail' that mutt uses. I just have a symbolic link from exim to sendmail. -- HolmesGrown Solutions The best solutions for the best price! http://ld.net/?holmesgrown ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: Sending mail via ISP's smtp server ` Steve Holmes @ ` Garrett Klein ` Alex Snow ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Garrett Klein @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Here's the big thing though... I've never compiled an MTA from scratch, let alone write a configuration file for one, and am thus a little nervous about trying to set up Exim.On Sat, Jan 17, 2004 at 12:10:45AM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote: > On Fri, Jan 16, 2004 at 04:45:26PM -0600, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: > > Not to my knowledge. Mutt will still call sendmail to do the actual > > transporting of the mail. > > > Yes, I vaguely remember asking on the mutt list once if one could do > that and they said "no!" mutt calls sendmail directly - not via > TCP/IP but by directly spawning the process. In fact, in order to use > exim like we do, we need to have a program out there called 'sendmail' > that mutt uses. I just have a symbolic link from exim to sendmail. > > -- > HolmesGrown Solutions > The best solutions for the best price! > http://ld.net/?holmesgrown > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: Sending mail via ISP's smtp server ` Garrett Klein @ ` Alex Snow ` Chuck Hallenbeck ` Tom and Esther Ward 2 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Alex Snow @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. there is a slackware package for exim floating around somewhere. I may even have a copy here. On Sat, Jan 17, 2004 at 12:44:24PM -0500, Garrett Klein wrote: > Here's the big thing though... I've never compiled an MTA from > scratch, let alone write a configuration file for one, and am thus a > little nervous about trying to set up Exim.On Sat, Jan 17, 2004 at > 12:10:45AM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 16, 2004 at 04:45:26PM -0600, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: > > > Not to my knowledge. Mutt will still call sendmail to do the actual > > > transporting of the mail. > > > > > Yes, I vaguely remember asking on the mutt list once if one could do > > that and they said "no!" mutt calls sendmail directly - not via > > TCP/IP but by directly spawning the process. In fact, in order to use > > exim like we do, we need to have a program out there called 'sendmail' > > that mutt uses. I just have a symbolic link from exim to sendmail. > > > > -- > > HolmesGrown Solutions > > The best solutions for the best price! > > http://ld.net/?holmesgrown > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Always borrow money from a pessimist; he doesn't expect to be paid back. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: Sending mail via ISP's smtp server ` Garrett Klein ` Alex Snow @ ` Chuck Hallenbeck ` Tom and Esther Ward 2 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Chuck Hallenbeck @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Garrett, If you want to stick with sendmail to direct mutt mail to your ISP's smtp server, the steps are actually quite simple. Do this: As root: Open the file /etc/mail/sendmail.cf with a text editor you know how to use; Find a line with only two characters on it, "DS" (in caps); Add the name of your ISP's smpt server to that line immediately after the "S", no spaces; Close the file, saving the changes; Then, still as root, restart the sendmail daemon by typing this at a prompt: /etc/rc.d/rc.sendmail restart That will do the trick. But you have to ask mutt to strip off your host name, and I cannot help you with that, since I am a (happy) Pine user. Chuck On Sat, 17 Jan 2004, Garrett Klein wrote: > Here's the big thing though... I've never compiled an MTA from > scratch, let alone write a configuration file for one, and am thus a > little nervous about trying to set up Exim.On Sat, Jan 17, 2004 at > 12:10:45AM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 16, 2004 at 04:45:26PM -0600, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: > > > Not to my knowledge. Mutt will still call sendmail to do the actual > > > transporting of the mail. > > > > > Yes, I vaguely remember asking on the mutt list once if one could do > > that and they said "no!" mutt calls sendmail directly - not via > > TCP/IP but by directly spawning the process. In fact, in order to use > > exim like we do, we need to have a program out there called 'sendmail' > > that mutt uses. I just have a symbolic link from exim to sendmail. > > > > -- > > HolmesGrown Solutions > > The best solutions for the best price! > > http://ld.net/?holmesgrown > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > - -- The Moon is Waning Crescent (22% of Full) In a world without Fences or Walls no one needs Windows or Gates. My home page is now at http://www.mhcable.com/~chuckh -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iQCVAwUBQAmISjVdG8M9x9tGAQK+XAQAtrcAe9tD1qQpjLA6J920PAE0naTXjhK/ zuTKZZsjv9aAu6XF6mJtoGXA7Kn7AzYARlqT5Nls458t9mbKkZsQAv4imAAaSRyR 2+TLRjEzg+/HjQeTn2zsF/G5Ci2+o8YJDYRTFxcQSmNvs2uvmp8ZhUeuUtv/hzX0 yENEWG71XPg= =yLDi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: Sending mail via ISP's smtp server ` Garrett Klein ` Alex Snow ` Chuck Hallenbeck @ ` Tom and Esther Ward 2 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Tom and Esther Ward @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Perhaps try postfix. I find it a little easier than other mta's to configure. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garrett Klein" <kleins@iquest.net> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2004 12:44 PM Subject: Re: Sending mail via ISP's smtp server > Here's the big thing though... I've never compiled an MTA from > scratch, let alone write a configuration file for one, and am thus a > little nervous about trying to set up Exim.On Sat, Jan 17, 2004 at > 12:10:45AM -0700, Steve Holmes wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 16, 2004 at 04:45:26PM -0600, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: > > > Not to my knowledge. Mutt will still call sendmail to do the actual > > > transporting of the mail. > > > > > Yes, I vaguely remember asking on the mutt list once if one could do > > that and they said "no!" mutt calls sendmail directly - not via > > TCP/IP but by directly spawning the process. In fact, in order to use > > exim like we do, we need to have a program out there called 'sendmail' > > that mutt uses. I just have a symbolic link from exim to sendmail. > > > > -- > > HolmesGrown Solutions > > The best solutions for the best price! > > http://ld.net/?holmesgrown > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: Sending mail via ISP's smtp server Sending mail via ISP's smtp server Garrett Klein ` Raul A. Gallegos @ ` Steve Holmes ` Raul A. Gallegos ` Raul A. Gallegos 1 sibling, 2 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Steve Holmes @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup It really doesn't matter what your mail client does. It is the mail transport agent (MTA) that decides what to do with your outgoing mail and how. What MTA do you use? I use Exim and based on Raul's post, he is doing exactly what you want to do as I am also. It can also be done with sendmail though I don't currently use it anymore, I would be hard pressed to find the original configurations I used for that one. If you are using Exim (commonly used on Debian systems), I could send you my exim.conf file which uses a "smart_host" routine to send all mail to a single host. I also have another rule in there that strips off the local machine name so all my mail only shows the top two levels of my address - holmesgrown.com. Without the stripping, my mail would always show something like lnx1.holmesgrown.com and this seems to screw up my mailing list subscriptions. I want all replies to my mail to be holmesgrown.com, not lnx1.holmesgrown.com. Anyway, if interested, I can send you what I currently use for Exim. It seems like all these MTA's have complex configurations that warrant considerable study to understand them fully. On Fri, Jan 16, 2004 at 04:30:31PM -0500, Garrett Klein wrote: > Hi all, > > I would like to send email through my ISP's smtp server, not my own, > since the return address only works when this machine is in Linux, with > my dyndns account updated. I've told mutt to fake my from: header to say > kleins@iquest.net just so I can send messages here, but would like to > use mail.iquest.net to send messages if at all possible. I know pine can > do this, but pine is evil, IMHO. > > Garrett > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- HolmesGrown Solutions The best solutions for the best price! http://ld.net/?holmesgrown ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: Sending mail via ISP's smtp server ` Steve Holmes @ ` Raul A. Gallegos ` Raul A. Gallegos 1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Raul A. Gallegos @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Steve Holmes said the following on Fri, Jan 16, 2004 at 03:24:22PM -0700: > If you are using Exim (commonly used on Debian systems), I could send > you my exim.conf file which uses a "smart_host" routine to send all > mail to a single host. I also have another rule in there that strips > off the local machine name so all my mail only shows the top two > levels of my address - holmesgrown.com. Without the stripping, my > mail would always show something like lnx1.holmesgrown.com and this > seems to screw up my mailing list subscriptions. I want all replies > to my mail to be holmesgrown.com, not lnx1.holmesgrown.com. Hi Steve. Wondering if you can post the portion of the rule which strips out that extra header stuff. My configuration does not do this. Many thanks. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: Sending mail via ISP's smtp server ` Steve Holmes ` Raul A. Gallegos @ ` Raul A. Gallegos 1 sibling, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Raul A. Gallegos @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I think from sendmail.cf there is a line called use smarthost and the context would look something like: Dssmtp.dom.ain But that is strictly from memory. -- Raul a. Gallegos - http://www.asmodean.net Do you like 80's music? Do you want to spend some time on Saturdays listening? Visit http://www.chosen80s.com for all the details. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
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