About Speakup0.10 and earlier kernels

About Speakup0.10 and earlier kernels

[Victor Tsaran]

Hello, listers!
This is not a blow against Kirk and any of the developers of Speakup, but I
just wanted to ask for the reason of dropping the support for kernels lower
than 2.2.18 for Speakup0.10. The truth is that none of the distributions
that I know come default with 2.2.18, or higher, kernels. Being in Europe,
it becomes practically impossible to download 10MB or more of a new kernel
in order to just install Speakup. What was so special about 2.2.18 that
Speakup0.10 would lack in previous versions of the kernel?
Best regards,
Victor

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Re: About Speakup0.10 and earlier kernels

[Tommy Moore]

Hey there Vic. The reason for dropping support for speakup 0.10 in kernels earlier than 2.2.18 isn't because we wanted to, it was because things changed in the newer kernels that made it hard to kee the old kernels working. Debian comes with 2.2.18 bt none of the other distributions do. Think Bill's figured out a way to get RH to work with the latest version of speakup, but you'll have to talk to him about that one since I only work with the debian stuff.
Won't be able to do too much with it for the next couple days or so. Have some things around here that I really need to work on for security reasons.
heh. Can't go in to that here, but I may on the reflector or something.
anyways, laters there Vic.


On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 11:40:07AM +0100, Victor Tsaran wrote:
> Hello, listers!
> This is not a blow against Kirk and any of the developers of Speakup, but I
> just wanted to ask for the reason of dropping the support for kernels lower
> than 2.2.18 for Speakup0.10. The truth is that none of the distributions
> that I know come default with 2.2.18, or higher, kernels. Being in Europe,
> it becomes practically impossible to download 10MB or more of a new kernel
> in order to just install Speakup. What was so special about 2.2.18 that
> Speakup0.10 would lack in previous versions of the kernel?
> Best regards,
> Victor
> 
> ******* ******* *******
> have you thought of visiting Cybertsar's Internet Kingdom? It is still
> alive!
> Here is the URL:
> http://kickme.to/vtsaran
> 
> ******* ******* *******
> 
> 
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Re: About Speakup0.10 and earlier kernels

[Geoff Shang]

Hi:

Kernel 2.2.18 was a pretty major release.  They back-ported a lot of stuff
from kernel 2.4 and changed some crucial console stuff.  It was not so much
a case of we must have kernel 2.2.18, it was more a case of support kernel
2.2.18 and above or support kernel 2.2.17 and below, not both.  Since it
was an either or situation and speakup 0.09 supports the earlier kernels
just fine, the choice was pretty obvious, particularly considering that
kernel 2.4test10 underwent similar changes at the same time.

As for kernel trees, surely there are european mirrors for the kernel
source?  You can get a list from www.kernel.org.  Oh and there are always
the upgrade patches if you already have a fresh older tree.

Geoff.

RE: About Speakup0.10 and earlier kernels

[Holmes, Steve]

Slackware 7.1 comes with 2.2.16 base kernel and I just applied the two
patches to get me up to 2.2.18; I notice that the "beta" Slackware 7.2 will
come with 2.2.18.  I don't know why they are bothering with that - figured
the next formal distribution of slackware OT to be 2.4 kernel.  Anyhow, the
patches aren't two big.

-----Original Message-----
From: Tommy Moore [mailto:stp@odysseus.yi.org]
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2001 6:04 AM
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: About Speakup0.10 and earlier kernels


Hey there Vic. The reason for dropping support for speakup 0.10 in kernels
earlier than 2.2.18 isn't because we wanted to, it was because things
changed in the newer kernels that made it hard to kee the old kernels
working. Debian comes with 2.2.18 bt none of the other distributions do.
Think Bill's figured out a way to get RH to work with the latest version of
speakup, but you'll have to talk to him about that one since I only work
with the debian stuff.
Won't be able to do too much with it for the next couple days or so. Have
some things around here that I really need to work on for security reasons.
heh. Can't go in to that here, but I may on the reflector or something.
anyways, laters there Vic.


On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 11:40:07AM +0100, Victor Tsaran wrote:
> Hello, listers!
> This is not a blow against Kirk and any of the developers of Speakup, but
I
> just wanted to ask for the reason of dropping the support for kernels
lower
> than 2.2.18 for Speakup0.10. The truth is that none of the distributions
> that I know come default with 2.2.18, or higher, kernels. Being in Europe,
> it becomes practically impossible to download 10MB or more of a new kernel
> in order to just install Speakup. What was so special about 2.2.18 that
> Speakup0.10 would lack in previous versions of the kernel?
> Best regards,
> Victor
> 
> ******* ******* *******
> have you thought of visiting Cybertsar's Internet Kingdom? It is still
> alive!
> Here is the URL:
> http://kickme.to/vtsaran
> 
> ******* ******* *******
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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