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[Igor Gueths]

Hi. How can I delete a user account? I have several user accounts on this box that are no longer used. I tred adduser --remove user and that didn't work. Would anyone have any suggestions on this? Also, for some odd reason, /etc/rc.d seems to be nonexistent on my Debian box. I know it would be easy to edit rc.local to put in my shell script to load the alsa modules, but I don't have rc.d to begin with. I was looking at adding it in as part of the init process at boot time. Also, do I really need rc.d to begin with? If I create an /etc/rc.d/rc.local with some commands, which file (s) would I have to edit to have rc.local be read at start-up? Thanks! 


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Re: questions

[Monty Lilburn]

On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Igor Gueths wrote:

>Hi. How can I delete a user account? I have several user accounts on this box that are no longer used.
> I tried adduser --remove user and that didn't work. Would anyone have  any  suggestions on this?


Igor:

I have noticed that several of your posts to this list involve getting
help for linux commands and linux command sintax.  You will find that the
"man", "info" and "help" commands can be very useful in solving most of
your command troubles.  Also entering your "help question" into a
search-engine such as http://www.google.com will often yield success.

I am not trying to discourage you from asking questions on the list
(afterall, the list is supposed to be a resource) but if you use a list as
a last resort rather than a first resort, you'll not only get your answer
faster but you'll also cut down the list traffic as well.

Regarding your question about deleting a user account...  The adduser man
page lists "deluser(8)" in the "see also" section.


You will be surprised at how much you can learn by reading...

Monty

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Re: questions

[Kerry Hoath]

Debian does not have /etc/rc.d
it has /etc/init.d containing
all the control scripts. there are also simlinks in /etc/rcn.d where n is the
runlevel so to stop something from loading just rm the
s and k symlink in the /etc/rcn.d directory.
To add in the alsa startup so it loads at boot just do
update-rc.d alsasound defaults
the alsasound script should allready exist in /etc/init.d/alsasound so it just means
update-rc.d needs to add symlinks into /etc/rcn.d

Regards, Kerry.
On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 05:48:07PM -0500, Igor Gueths wrote:
> Hi. How can I delete a user account? I have several user accounts on this box that are no longer used. I tred adduser --remove user and that didn't work. Would anyone have any suggestions on this? Also, for some odd reason, /etc/rc.d seems to be nonexistent on my Debian box. I know it would be easy to edit rc.local to put in my shell script to load the alsa modules, but I don't have rc.d to begin with. I was looking at adding it in as part of the init process at boot time. Also, do I really need rc.d to begin with? If I create an /etc/rc.d/rc.local with some commands, which file (s) would I have to edit to have rc.local be read at start-up? Thanks! 
> 
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Re: questions

[Kerry Hoath]

Actually under Debian it is userdel and it works like this:
userdel -r username
removes user and the homedirectory.
userdel username
leaves the home directory in tact.
adduser/useradd or deluser/userdel is one of those distribution specific things.
I second your opinion regarding documentation, too many
people post to speakup as a quick lazy fix rather than doing a little digging
first.

regards, Kerry.
On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 04:40:47PM -0800, Monty Lilburn wrote:
> On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Igor Gueths wrote:
> 
> >Hi. How can I delete a user account? I have several user accounts on this box that are no longer used.
> > I tried adduser --remove user and that didn't work. Would anyone have  any  suggestions on this?
> 
> 
> Igor:
> 
> I have noticed that several of your posts to this list involve getting
> help for linux commands and linux command sintax.  You will find that the
> "man", "info" and "help" commands can be very useful in solving most of
> your command troubles.  Also entering your "help question" into a
> search-engine such as http://www.google.com will often yield success.
> 
> I am not trying to discourage you from asking questions on the list
> (afterall, the list is supposed to be a resource) but if you use a list as
> a last resort rather than a first resort, you'll not only get your answer
> faster but you'll also cut down the list traffic as well.
> 
> Regarding your question about deleting a user account...  The adduser man
> page lists "deluser(8)" in the "see also" section.
> 
> 
> You will be surprised at how much you can learn by reading...
> 
> Monty
> 
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Re: questions

[Igor Gueths]

Hi Kerry. Thanks for the informative message. But if I wanted to have it run a shell script, I suppose I could .profile it in for each user, but couldn't I just add it in on one of the runlevels such as rc2? Speaking of which alsasound didn't load when I rebooted my machine just to see if it would work. Looks like I'll have to check the rcs. 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Kerry Hoath <kerry@gotss.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: questions


> Debian does not have /etc/rc.d
> it has /etc/init.d containing
> all the control scripts. there are also simlinks in /etc/rcn.d where n is the
> runlevel so to stop something from loading just rm the
> s and k symlink in the /etc/rcn.d directory.
> To add in the alsa startup so it loads at boot just do
> update-rc.d alsasound defaults
> the alsasound script should allready exist in /etc/init.d/alsasound so it just means
> update-rc.d needs to add symlinks into /etc/rcn.d
> 
> Regards, Kerry.
> On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 05:48:07PM -0500, Igor Gueths wrote:
> > Hi. How can I delete a user account? I have several user accounts on this box that are no longer used. I tred adduser --remove user and that didn't work. Would anyone have any suggestions on this? Also, for some odd reason, /etc/rc.d seems to be nonexistent on my Debian box. I know it would be easy to edit rc.local to put in my shell script to load the alsa modules, but I don't have rc.d to begin with. I was looking at adding it in as part of the init process at boot time. Also, do I really need rc.d to begin with? If I create an /etc/rc.d/rc.local with some commands, which file (s) would I have to edit to have rc.local be read at start-up? Thanks! 
> > 
> > 
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Re: questions

[Kerry Hoath]

READ MY MESSAGES CAREFULLY!
all debian startup scripts to control services are located in
/etc/init.d
you will find the alsasound script there.
To have the service start at boot, you must create
symlinks in /etc/rc*.d directories for each runlevel you want the service running in.
the update-rc.d utility does this and it has a manpage.
To make alsasound start at boot you do
update-rc.d alsasound defaults
You do *not* create the symlinks by hand unless you need to do something
special.
All services should be started and stopped in the debian manner so that
they are cleanly shut down and started on a run level change.

If you are confused then re-read my previous message ont he subject.
I get the idea that you do not understand all of my messages, if
something is unclear ask, it appears that you read the top few
lines and read no further.
I do not post lengthy messages to the list for no reason, I post them
so they go into the archives and other users such as yourself can
referr to them for reference.
You should not edit rc.S because any changes you put there will be lost when
init is upgraded. Keep things in package
specific scripts so they will be left alone.
If you need to run hdparm or other things at boot, install the hwtools package and
edit /etc/init.d/hwtools
You can read about the init system in /etc/init.d/README

Regards, Kerry.
On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 09:38:03PM -0500, Igor Gueths wrote:
> Hi Kerry. Thanks for the informative message. But if I wanted to have it run a shell script, I suppose I could .profile it in for each user, but couldn't I just add it in on one of the runlevels such as rc2? Speaking of which alsasound didn't load when I rebooted my machine just to see if it would work. Looks like I'll have to check the rcs. 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Kerry Hoath <kerry@gotss.net>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 8:30 PM
> Subject: Re: questions
> 
> 
> > Debian does not have /etc/rc.d
> > it has /etc/init.d containing
> > all the control scripts. there are also simlinks in /etc/rcn.d where n is the
> > runlevel so to stop something from loading just rm the
> > s and k symlink in the /etc/rcn.d directory.
> > To add in the alsa startup so it loads at boot just do
> > update-rc.d alsasound defaults
> > the alsasound script should allready exist in /etc/init.d/alsasound so it just means
> > update-rc.d needs to add symlinks into /etc/rcn.d
> > 
> > Regards, Kerry.
> > On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 05:48:07PM -0500, Igor Gueths wrote:
> > > Hi. How can I delete a user account? I have several user accounts on this box that are no longer used. I tred adduser --remove user and that didn't work. Would anyone have any suggestions on this? Also, for some odd reason, /etc/rc.d seems to be nonexistent on my Debian box. I know it would be easy to edit rc.local to put in my shell script to load the alsa modules, but I don't have rc.d to begin with. I was looking at adding it in as part of the init process at boot time. Also, do I really need rc.d to begin with? If I create an /etc/rc.d/rc.local with some commands, which file (s) would I have to edit to have rc.local be read at start-up? Thanks! 
> > > 
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Re: questions & learning styles

[Ann Parsons]

Hi all,

<smile>  I've got to put in my oar here folks.  I need to defend those
of us who need to be shown what to do before we can do it or
understand explanations of what we have done. 

In my case, I need to do whatever it is before I read about it.  Why?
Because I can't understand what I read until I have experienced
whatever action I'm reading about.  Finally, there comes a time for
me, and I am in that transition now, where because of all that I have
experienced, I can read a man page or a document and understand what
I'm reading because I have something to connect the new knowledge to.  

I've been following Igor's progress here, and it seems to me that he's
done his share of reading about things.  I think your reference to
places to find the info are good, very good, but your implication that
Igor is taking up the list's time wasn't called for.  If you want to
go to a techie, unfriendly list, join emacspeak or blinux.  We've
never turned away anyone from asking questions, even the simple ones.
I don't want to see us doing it now, cuz if you do, I'll have to
unsub.    <smile>  Frankly, if I had to remove a user right now, I
couldn't do it.  I can't remember the syntax!  I do, however, keep
what I call tips.txt.  In there, I have a bunch of notes on commands
about how to do stuff.  It's my way of keeping track of stuff I won't
remember after two days.  One point of information, if you try to look
up "skuzzy" in a dictionary or a manual, you won't find it.  You have
to know what you're looking for in order to find it.  In computerese,
that can be very specific.  Hence if rmuser isn't the right command,
looking it up under that name will yield naught.  

Just my two cents for a Thursday morning.

Ann P.



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Re: questions

[Ann Parsons]

Hi all,

Kerry, thanks.  I have added this command to my tips.txt file.  It's
written in bytes now.  <smile>

Ann P.

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Re: questions

[Shaun Oliver]

the command to remove a user is as follows.
userdel -r username.
the -r flag removes any files and directories relating to that user.
hth
On
Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Igor
Gueths wrote:

> Hi. How can I delete a user account? I have several user accounts on this box that are no longer used. I tred adduser --remove user and that didn't work. Would anyone have any suggestions on this? Also, for some odd reason, /etc/rc.d seems to be nonexistent on my Debian box. I know it would be easy to edit rc.local to put in my shell script to load the alsa modules, but I don't have rc.d to begin with. I was looking at adding it in as part of the init process at boot time. Also, do I really need rc.d to begin with? If I create an /etc/rc.d/rc.local with some commands, which file (s) would I have to edit to have rc.local be read at start-up? Thanks!
>
>
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Re: questions

[Thomas D. Ward]

 some distributions put rc.local in /etc. Mine is located in 
/etc/rc.local in my case anyway.
As for removing users you can delete him from /etc/passwd and remove his 
folders from /home/
An even better way to go is use Linuxconf to add and remove users. 
However, be careful with Linuxconf. It takes some getting use to.
 
On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Igor Gueths wrote:

> Hi. How can I delete a user account? I have several user accounts on this box that are no longer used. I tred adduser --remove user and that didn't work. Would anyone have any suggestions on this? Also, for some odd reason, /etc/rc.d seems to be nonexistent on my Debian box. I know it would be easy to edit rc.local to put in my shell script to load the alsa modules, but I don't have rc.d to begin with. I was looking at adding it in as part of the init process at boot time. Also, do I really need rc.d to begin with? If I create an /etc/rc.d/rc.local with some commands, which file (s) would I have to edit to have rc.local be read at start-up? Thanks! 
> 
> 
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Re: questions & learning styles

[randy turner]

hi,
i remember myself getting started in linux,
at first it all was pretty overwelming,
after about 2 months i began understanding how it all fit together.
one of the things that i like about the speakup group
is that everybody is so helpfull.
thanks to all
randy


On Thu, 28 Mar 2002, Ann Parsons wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> <smile>  I've got to put in my oar here folks.  I need to defend those
> of us who need to be shown what to do before we can do it or
> understand explanations of what we have done.
>
> In my case, I need to do whatever it is before I read about it.  Why?
> Because I can't understand what I read until I have experienced
> whatever action I'm reading about.  Finally, there comes a time for
> me, and I am in that transition now, where because of all that I have
> experienced, I can read a man page or a document and understand what
> I'm reading because I have something to connect the new knowledge to.
>
> I've been following Igor's progress here, and it seems to me that he's
> done his share of reading about things.  I think your reference to
> places to find the info are good, very good, but your implication that
> Igor is taking up the list's time wasn't called for.  If you want to
> go to a techie, unfriendly list, join emacspeak or blinux.  We've
> never turned away anyone from asking questions, even the simple ones.
> I don't want to see us doing it now, cuz if you do, I'll have to
> unsub.    <smile>  Frankly, if I had to remove a user right now, I
> couldn't do it.  I can't remember the syntax!  I do, however, keep
> what I call tips.txt.  In there, I have a bunch of notes on commands
> about how to do stuff.  It's my way of keeping track of stuff I won't
> remember after two days.  One point of information, if you try to look
> up "skuzzy" in a dictionary or a manual, you won't find it.  You have
> to know what you're looking for in order to find it.  In computerese,
> that can be very specific.  Hence if rmuser isn't the right command,
> looking it up under that name will yield naught.
>
> Just my two cents for a Thursday morning.
>
> Ann P.
>
>
>
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Re: questions

[Toby Fisher]

On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Monty Lilburn wrote:

> On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Igor Gueths wrote:
>
> >Hi. How can I delete a user account? I have several user accounts on this box that are no longer used.
> > I tried adduser --remove user and that didn't work. Would anyone have  any  suggestions on this?
>
>
> Igor:
>
> I have noticed that several of your posts to this list involve getting
> help for linux commands and linux command sintax.  You will find that the
> "man", "info" and "help" commands can be very useful in solving most of
> your command troubles.  Also entering your "help question" into a
> search-engine such as http://www.google.com will often yield success.

I would second this, while of course not discouraging questions to the
list.  I have found, as an admin, that knowing everything is neither
desirable or even possible, but to know *where* to find what you need is
vital.
With this in mind, I would direct you to the apropos command.  It searches
the manpath and returns the name sections of any manpages which contain
the word you're searching for.

For example, see the name section of the manpage for the man command.

man(1)                                                     man(1)

NAME
       man - format and display the on-line manual pages
       manpath - determine user's search path for man pages

can be found by typing such things as

apropos pages
apropos manpath

You may want to pipe this output through a pager like less or similar as
the output can be quite long if your search is general, but you can then
use the less search facility to help you a little more.

I find this command invaluable, even if it produces a lot of extraneous
output.

HTH

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Re: questions

[Toby Fisher]

On Mon, 1 Apr 2002, Toby Fisher wrote:

> With this in mind, I would direct you to the apropos command.  It searches
> the manpath and returns the name sections of any manpages which contain
> the word you're searching for.

Uh0-oh, now here's a case in point.  If I'd actually looked at the man
page for the apropos command, I'd know that it actually searches the
whatis database, which is why sometimes results can be more wide-ranging
than one might expect, but it still works just the same. *grin*
Also, apropos was written back in 1991, and I do believe it is a standard
unix command, it certainly works on the Solaris and Ultrix b oxes I've
used.

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Re: Questions

[Gaijin]

On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 06:14:55PM -0500, John Gunn wrote:
> I am wondering if one can install Linux from an ISO image using Slackware or
> Ubunto?  I suspect so and would like to know where I can download the
> complete image.

	I began with Windows, the NVDA screen reader and a prodduct
	called ISO-Recorder, which can be freely downloaded.  You can
	find the ISO images at any Linux distribution site or their
	mirrors, but be aware that  most Windows web browsers have a 2GB
	download/file size limit, nor does ISO-Recorder write DVDs
	unless you're running Vista.  Many distributions of linux offer
	"netinst" CDs that allow you to download and install the
	operating system.  There are also "Live! CDs" that allow you to
	try-before-you-buy a flavor of linux entirely in memory, so you
	can run a copy of linux  without messing up your current OS and
	see if it fits your needs.  It goes without saying that you'll
	really need a high-speed connection for the netinst route.  It
	can take upwards of 6 hours of downloading on a 56K connection,
	unless you go crazy and install everything all at once.  As a
	new linux user, you'll find skimpy documentation and hundreds,
	if not thousands of programs installed, and no clue how to use
	them without a lot of reading through man and info pages, and
	through the text files in the /usr/doc or /usr/share/doc
	directories.  Slackware offers a good beginner's guide called
	the "Slackbook" on their website to familiarize you with some
	basic commands.  The CDs themselves will come with installation
documentation, usually in HTML, and will normally display them for you
if you insert the CD in a Windows machine. while it's running.  Fedora
and Ubuntu are about the easiest to get started with.  i prefer Debian,
myself, but it currently doesn't officially support SpeakUP.  GRML,
Gentu, Slackware, and SuSE seem to be the "runner's up" flavors of
linux, in that order.  While the current stable version of Debian
doesn't support either the SpeakUP or Orca screen readers, their package
manager makes up for it, in my opinion  It always leaves you with a
running (if not fully configured) copy of whatever you install, as well
as recommending additional support software, and often suggests other
packages to make things easier.  If you're really new to linux, I would
recommend Ubuntu or Fedora.  HTH,

			Michael
			

Re: Questions

[Gregory Nowak]

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On Tue, Jun 03, 2008 at 06:14:55PM -0500, John Gunn wrote:
> Hello All:
> 
> Just getting in to Linux and have a few questions however if they have been
> addressed before, feel free to point me in the right direction so as not to
> clutter the list.

Hello John, and welcome to the list.

> 
> I am wondering if one can install Linux from an ISO image using Slackware or
> Ubunto?  I suspect so and would like to know where I can download the
> complete image.

The answer to both questions is yes. Slackware includes speakup in the
official iso images. Ubuntu doesn't include speakup, so you'll only
have access through the orca screen reader which is a part of gnome,
the graphical desktop. You can find isos at:

http://www.slackware.com

and

http://www.ubuntu.com

You could have found this out through a bit of googleing.

> 
> I will be using Speak Out as the hardware synth.

That's supported by speakup, but that's all I can say on that topic.

Greg


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Questions

[John Gunn]

Hello All:

Just getting in to Linux and have a few questions however if they have been
addressed before, feel free to point me in the right direction so as not to
clutter the list.

I am wondering if one can install Linux from an ISO image using Slackware or
Ubunto?  I suspect so and would like to know where I can download the
complete image.

I will be using Speak Out as the hardware synth.

That's about all I can think of now and thanks for any thoughts.

John


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Re: questions

[Janina Sajka]

Questions like this one are good candidates for the apropos command:

apropos irc

Unfortunately, a string like 'irc' is common, so you'll get a lot of
hits you don't want (like the word 'circular.') Pipe this to more.

Marvin Rush writes:
> I have just spent the lst hour trying to find out what fedora core 3
> provides for IRC. Can some one let me know so that I can take a look. Thanks
> Marv
> 
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Re: questions

[Janina Sajka]

Marvin Rush writes:
> I have 2 questions. What is the proper syntax for tar to un-archive a tar.gz

tar xzpf [filename.tar.gz]

> file. The second one is I was trying to use rpm to install a package and got
> the error that it needslibldap.so2 needed. Do I have to set some kind of
> environment variable or what ever fedora calls it to let rpm know where all
> of that stuff is? 

No. Either install the dependency by hand, or use yum instead of rpm
like so:

yum install [package]

Yum will take care of the dependencies.

Janina

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RE: questions

[Marvin Rush]

I have just spent the lst hour trying to find out what fedora core 3
provides for IRC. Can some one let me know so that I can take a look. Thanks
Marv

RE: questions

[Marvin Rush]

Thanks guys. 


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From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Gregory Nowak
Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2006 3:01 PM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: questions

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The v isn't really needed either, unless you like to see what's going on,
zxf will do to extract a tar.gz file.

Greg


On Sun, Apr 16, 2006 at 12:26:24PM -0400, Charles Hallenbeck wrote:
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> I think that may not work. The 'f' in the string 'xfzv' must come 
> last, as in 'xzvf'.

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Re: questions

[Gregory Nowak]

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The v isn't really needed either, unless you like to see what's going
on, zxf will do to extract a tar.gz file.

Greg


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> I think that may not work. The 'f' in the string 'xfzv' must come last, 
> as in 'xzvf'. 

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Re: questions

[Lorenzo Taylor]

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It doesn't matter what order you type the option letters to tar.  They are just
command line options and xzvf, xfzv, fxvz and fzxv all have the exact same
result.  Personal preference is the real winner here.  Score another point for
Unix-like operating systems. <grin>

HTH,
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Re: questions

[Charles Hallenbeck]

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Robbie,

You are right. It evidently does not matter where the 'f' is. Sorry for 
the obsolete advice.

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Re: questions

[Charles Hallenbeck]

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That used to be a requirement. Maybe the syntax loosened up some in 
recent versions. Let me try it that way.


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Re: questions

[ace]

Really?  That's how I always do it.
tar xfzv and xfjv

At 12:26 PM 4/16/2006, you wrote:
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>I think that may not work. The 'f' in the string 'xfzv' must come last,
>as in 'xzvf'.
>On Sun, Apr 16, 2006 at 02:45:51AM -0400, ace wrote:
> > At 02:11 AM 4/16/2006, you wrote:
> > >I have 2 questions. What is the proper syntax for tar to 
> un-archive a tar.gz
> > >file.
> >
> >
> > tar xfzv filename
> > for gz
> > tar xfjv filename
> > for bz2
> >
> >
> > >The second one is I was trying to use rpm to install a package and got
> > >the error that it needslibldap.so2 needed. Do I have to set some kind of
> > >environment variable or what ever fedora calls it to let rpm 
> know where all
> > >of that stuff is?
> > >
> > >Join Lorie and Marvin on www.interactive.acbradio.org for the Folk
> > >connection Saturdays from 18 to 20 GMT.
> > >
> > >
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> > >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> >
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> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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Re: questions

[Charles Hallenbeck]

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I think that may not work. The 'f' in the string 'xfzv' must come last, 
as in 'xzvf'. 
On Sun, Apr 16, 2006 at 02:45:51AM -0400, ace wrote:
> At 02:11 AM 4/16/2006, you wrote:
> >I have 2 questions. What is the proper syntax for tar to un-archive a tar.gz
> >file.
> 
> 
> tar xfzv filename
> for gz
> tar xfjv filename
> for bz2
> 
> 
> >The second one is I was trying to use rpm to install a package and got
> >the error that it needslibldap.so2 needed. Do I have to set some kind of
> >environment variable or what ever fedora calls it to let rpm know where all
> >of that stuff is?
> >
> >Join Lorie and Marvin on www.interactive.acbradio.org for the Folk
> >connection Saturdays from 18 to 20 GMT.
> >
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >Speakup mailing list
> >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
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Re: questions

[ace]

At 02:11 AM 4/16/2006, you wrote:
>I have 2 questions. What is the proper syntax for tar to un-archive a tar.gz
>file.


tar xfzv filename
for gz
tar xfjv filename
for bz2


>The second one is I was trying to use rpm to install a package and got
>the error that it needslibldap.so2 needed. Do I have to set some kind of
>environment variable or what ever fedora calls it to let rpm know where all
>of that stuff is?
>
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>
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questions

[Marvin Rush]

I have 2 questions. What is the proper syntax for tar to un-archive a tar.gz
file. The second one is I was trying to use rpm to install a package and got
the error that it needslibldap.so2 needed. Do I have to set some kind of
environment variable or what ever fedora calls it to let rpm know where all
of that stuff is? 

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Re: questions

[Juan Hernandez]

does someone have a written howto or something showing how to configure
speakup with soft speech?
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From: "Erik Heil" <eheil@va3duk.serveftp.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: questions


> Hi their.  I'm not certain of when FC3 is going to be released.  However,
> the answer to your second question is yes.  You can use Speakup with
> software speech.  You will have to either have softsynth support compiled
> in your kernel or loaded as a module.  Next, you need Flite.  You can
> either build it from source, or there are RPM binary distrobutions of it
> available.  You also need Speech Dispatcher.  Not sure if their are RPM's
> available yet.  Perhaps someone else knows that.  Lastly, you need
> speechd-up available.  This is just a list of what you need.  As I don't
> use software speech, I can't help you with configuring it.  Hope this
> helps though.
>
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>
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Re: questions

[Erik Heil]

Hi their.  I'm not certain of when FC3 is going to be released.  However, 
the answer to your second question is yes.  You can use Speakup with 
software speech.  You will have to either have softsynth support compiled 
in your kernel or loaded as a module.  Next, you need Flite.  You can 
either build it from source, or there are RPM binary distrobutions of it 
available.  You also need Speech Dispatcher.  Not sure if their are RPM's 
available yet.  Perhaps someone else knows that.  Lastly, you need 
speechd-up available.  This is just a list of what you need.  As I don't 
use software speech, I can't help you with configuring it.  Hope this 
helps though.

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questions

[Juan Hernandez]

I have a few questions

1.  When is fedora core 3 scheduled to relese?  I don't understand their public release calander

2. how can I run software synth on my laptop?  can speakup let me do that?  or do I have to use yasr.

Re: questions

[frankiec]

Scott.

Run "depmod -a".  You just might see things come alive for you.

FC


On Mon, 1 May 2000, Scott Howell wrote:

> Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 10:41:03 -0400
> From: Scott Howell <n3byy@speakeasy.org>
> Reply-To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> Subject: questions
> 
> >
> > lets see if this msg gets out now.
> >
> > >
> > > Well geez, where to start. Not sure where things went wrong or how, but
> > they
> > > are pretty screwed up.
> > > So, first problem I noticed is I lost the nic, yeah, gone no telnet
> etc.,
> > > but it had been working.
> > > So, tried modprobe via-rhine and got an error that stated in short that
> > the
> > > via-rhine module was a kernel version missmatch.
> > > So, I tried all kinds of stuff from recompiling the kernel to blowing
> the
> > > whole tree away and starting with a new fresh tree with no luck. Now I
> > even
> > > tried renaming the module directory and no luck there.
> > >
> > > So, next problem is the alsa drivers are not loading either, but they
> did
> > > compile fine.
> > >
> > > Now the questions I have is this, what could I do about the via-rhine
> > > module. Doesn't these modules get created when you run make modules and
> > > modules_install? What would cause the sound card modules to not load
> when
> > I
> > > hadn't changed anything at all.
> > >
> > > Lastly I put together a router and was intending to use this with the
> dsl
> > > connection, but in the mean time until hellatlantic gets out and
> corrects
> > > the loop problem I wanted to still dial out on the current box until I
> get
> > > the modem connected to the router and dialup setup as a backup to the
> dsl
> > > connection.
> > > In any case when I dial out now fetchmail complains about a temporary
> name
> > > server which I thought I had fixed.
> > > So, I tried route add default ppp0 and that didn't help either.
> > >
> > > Yeah, several problems, but seems that they all happend at once. I
> haven't
> > > any clue about the modules being I only compiled the kernel once to just
> > fix
> > > one item and changed nothing else.
> > >
> > > I doubt all these issues are tied together, but they all happend about
> the
> > > same time. I hadn't made any changes other than running netconfig to
> setup
> > > the address on my box and I really can't see how that would have broken
> my
> > > kernel, but then nor recompiling the kernel should have caused all these
> > > problems.
> > > So, anyone got any ideas as to where I should start looking with respect
> > to
> > > either issue, please let me know. I can't get speakfreely to run either
> so
> > > this all ties into the networking problem.
> > > Of course will fix one problem at a time, but like to get enough info to
> > > have on hand in order to attack both problems.
> > >
> > > tnx
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
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questions

[Scott Howell]

>
> lets see if this msg gets out now.
>
> >
> > Well geez, where to start. Not sure where things went wrong or how, but
> they
> > are pretty screwed up.
> > So, first problem I noticed is I lost the nic, yeah, gone no telnet
etc.,
> > but it had been working.
> > So, tried modprobe via-rhine and got an error that stated in short that
> the
> > via-rhine module was a kernel version missmatch.
> > So, I tried all kinds of stuff from recompiling the kernel to blowing
the
> > whole tree away and starting with a new fresh tree with no luck. Now I
> even
> > tried renaming the module directory and no luck there.
> >
> > So, next problem is the alsa drivers are not loading either, but they
did
> > compile fine.
> >
> > Now the questions I have is this, what could I do about the via-rhine
> > module. Doesn't these modules get created when you run make modules and
> > modules_install? What would cause the sound card modules to not load
when
> I
> > hadn't changed anything at all.
> >
> > Lastly I put together a router and was intending to use this with the
dsl
> > connection, but in the mean time until hellatlantic gets out and
corrects
> > the loop problem I wanted to still dial out on the current box until I
get
> > the modem connected to the router and dialup setup as a backup to the
dsl
> > connection.
> > In any case when I dial out now fetchmail complains about a temporary
name
> > server which I thought I had fixed.
> > So, I tried route add default ppp0 and that didn't help either.
> >
> > Yeah, several problems, but seems that they all happend at once. I
haven't
> > any clue about the modules being I only compiled the kernel once to just
> fix
> > one item and changed nothing else.
> >
> > I doubt all these issues are tied together, but they all happend about
the
> > same time. I hadn't made any changes other than running netconfig to
setup
> > the address on my box and I really can't see how that would have broken
my
> > kernel, but then nor recompiling the kernel should have caused all these
> > problems.
> > So, anyone got any ideas as to where I should start looking with respect
> to
> > either issue, please let me know. I can't get speakfreely to run either
so
> > this all ties into the networking problem.
> > Of course will fix one problem at a time, but like to get enough info to
> > have on hand in order to attack both problems.
> >
> > tnx
> >
> >
> >
>
>