ot: broadcasting to a shoutcast server

ot: broadcasting to a shoutcast server

[Alex Snow]

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Hi all.
I'd like to broadcast to a shoutcast server using linux. previously I 
used winamp, but I'm looking for a linux app. I'd like something 
powerful, I'd like to be able to easily switch between recording via 
linein on the soundcard to playing mp3s on the hard disk. anyone have 
any ideas?
thanks.

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Re: ot: broadcasting to a shoutcast server

[Igor Gueths]

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I use Muse, and I play all my mp3s using MPlayer...Problem is you can't use a single-channel card for doing that type of thing. http://muse.dyne.org
On Tue, Aug 17, 2004 at 06:12:15PM -0400, Alex Snow wrote:
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> Hi all.
> I'd like to broadcast to a shoutcast server using linux. previously I 
> used winamp, but I'm looking for a linux app. I'd like something 
> powerful, I'd like to be able to easily switch between recording via 
> linein on the soundcard to playing mp3s on the hard disk. anyone have 
> any ideas?
> thanks.
> 
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Re: ot: broadcasting to a shoutcast server

[Alex Snow]

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I see...but two soundcards might do the trick.
On Tue, Aug 17, 2004 at 
06:41:11PM -0400, Igor Gueths wrote:
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> I use Muse, and I play all my mp3s using MPlayer...Problem is you can't use a single-channel card for doing that type of thing. http://muse.dyne.org
> On Tue, Aug 17, 2004 at 06:12:15PM -0400, Alex Snow wrote:
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> > Hi all.
> > I'd like to broadcast to a shoutcast server using linux. previously I 
> > used winamp, but I'm looking for a linux app. I'd like something 
> > powerful, I'd like to be able to easily switch between recording via 
> > linein on the soundcard to playing mp3s on the hard disk. anyone have 
> > any ideas?
> > thanks.
> > 
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Re: ot: broadcasting to a shoutcast server

[Shaun Oliver]

ok how did you get muse to save it's settings, forther more how did you 
get to do all it claims i.e. being able to talk through the mic and 
stuff?
I'd really love to know cause I wana play with it here.

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Re: ot: broadcasting to a shoutcast server

[Igor Gueths]

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I have a Mic that has a power button...Therefore when i want to talk through the Mic I just turn it back on. For playing music, I run copies of Mplayer...Which ends up working quite well 
actually. What lacks though is a playlist, however I managed to get used to that.
On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 08:14:28PM +1000, Shaun Oliver wrote:
> ok how did you get muse to save it's settings, forther more how did you 
> get to do all it claims i.e. being able to talk through the mic and 
> stuff?
> I'd really love to know cause I wana play with it here.
> 
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> Shaun Oliver
> http://blindman.homelinux.org/~blindman/
> 
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Re: ot: broadcasting to a shoutcast server

[Alex Snow]

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hmm...I could probably do the same thing with a mic mixer. I'll have 
to dig mine out
On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 12:19:49PM -0400, Igor Gueths 
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> I have a Mic that has a power button...Therefore when i want to talk through the Mic I just turn it back on. For playing music, I run copies of Mplayer...Which ends up working quite well 
> actually. What lacks though is a playlist, however I managed to get used to that.
> On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 08:14:28PM +1000, Shaun Oliver wrote:
> > ok how did you get muse to save it's settings, forther more how did you 
> > get to do all it claims i.e. being able to talk through the mic and 
> > stuff?
> > I'd really love to know cause I wana play with it here.
> > 
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> > Shaun Oliver
> > http://blindman.homelinux.org/~blindman/
> > 
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Re: ot: broadcasting to a shoutcast server

[Shaun Oliver]

if you use muse for all it has a playlist feature.
hth

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Re: ot: broadcasting to a shoutcast server

[Alex Snow]

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Yeah that's the way I have ot running right now, but one thing I don't 
like is that it lacks a shuffle feature so it plays songs in the same 
order over and over and over.
On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 08:33:24PM +1000, 
Shaun Oliver wrote:
> if you use muse for all it has a playlist feature.
> hth
> 
> -- 
> If I traveled to the end of the rainbow
> As Dame Fortune did intend,
> Murphy would be there to tell me
> The pot's at the other end.
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> Shaun Oliver
> http://blindman.homelinux.org/~blindman/
> 
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Re: ot: broadcasting to a shoutcast server

[Igor Gueths]

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The one thing I haven't been able to figure out yet is how to set specific sources to certain channels...Like, if I modify a playlist for example in realtime, and a song ends, I wonder if it 
would go to the next song I queued in the playlist? And then how to switch to let's say...Mic...Other than that, its usable for me. The one thing I haven't figured out, and it seems to be a 
bug, is that when you stream to multiple servers...You can't specify bitrates, you have to resort to using the quality option (-q). Might anyone know why that is? Thanks!
On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 08:53:00AM -0400, Alex Snow wrote:
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> Yeah that's the way I have ot running right now, but one thing I don't 
> like is that it lacks a shuffle feature so it plays songs in the same 
> order over and over and over.
> On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 08:33:24PM +1000, 
> Shaun Oliver wrote:
> > if you use muse for all it has a playlist feature.
> > hth
> > 
> > -- 
> > If I traveled to the end of the rainbow
> > As Dame Fortune did intend,
> > Murphy would be there to tell me
> > The pot's at the other end.
> > 		-- Bert Whitney
> > Shaun Oliver
> > http://blindman.homelinux.org/~blindman/
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
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Re: ot: broadcasting to a shoutcast server

[Alex Snow]

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to chose between which channel a certain atribute is for you prefix it 
with the -N# option where # is the channel. so lets say I want channel 
one to play fu.pls and channel 2 to play bar.pls I'd do -N1 fu.pls -N2 
bar.pls.
hth.

P.S. too bad the curses interface and speakup don't get along because 
that'd make realtime broadcasting much easier.
On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 
10:51:03AM -0400, Igor Gueths wrote:
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> The one thing I haven't been able to figure out yet is how to set specific sources to certain channels...Like, if I modify a playlist for example in realtime, and a song ends, I wonder if it 
> would go to the next song I queued in the playlist? And then how to switch to let's say...Mic...Other than that, its usable for me. The one thing I haven't figured out, and it seems to be a 
> bug, is that when you stream to multiple servers...You can't specify bitrates, you have to resort to using the quality option (-q). Might anyone know why that is? Thanks!
> On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 08:53:00AM -0400, Alex Snow wrote:
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> > Yeah that's the way I have ot running right now, but one thing I don't 
> > like is that it lacks a shuffle feature so it plays songs in the same 
> > order over and over and over.
> > On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 08:33:24PM +1000, 
> > Shaun Oliver wrote:
> > > if you use muse for all it has a playlist feature.
> > > hth
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > If I traveled to the end of the rainbow
> > > As Dame Fortune did intend,
> > > Murphy would be there to tell me
> > > The pot's at the other end.
> > > 		-- Bert Whitney
> > > Shaun Oliver
> > > http://blindman.homelinux.org/~blindman/
> > > 
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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Re: ot: broadcasting to a shoutcast server

[Igor Gueths]

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Have you figured a way to do it with the cli interface? Switching between channels I mean...
On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 01:08:45PM -0400, Alex Snow wrote:
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> to chose between which channel a certain atribute is for you prefix it 
> with the -N# option where # is the channel. so lets say I want channel 
> one to play fu.pls and channel 2 to play bar.pls I'd do -N1 fu.pls -N2 
> bar.pls.
> hth.
> 
> P.S. too bad the curses interface and speakup don't get along because 
> that'd make realtime broadcasting much easier.
> On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 
> 10:51:03AM -0400, Igor Gueths wrote:
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> > The one thing I haven't been able to figure out yet is how to set specific sources to certain channels...Like, if I modify a playlist for example in realtime, and a song ends, I wonder if it 
> > would go to the next song I queued in the playlist? And then how to switch to let's say...Mic...Other than that, its usable for me. The one thing I haven't figured out, and it seems to be a 
> > bug, is that when you stream to multiple servers...You can't specify bitrates, you have to resort to using the quality option (-q). Might anyone know why that is? Thanks!
> > On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 08:53:00AM -0400, Alex Snow wrote:
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> > > Yeah that's the way I have ot running right now, but one thing I don't 
> > > like is that it lacks a shuffle feature so it plays songs in the same 
> > > order over and over and over.
> > > On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 08:33:24PM +1000, 
> > > Shaun Oliver wrote:
> > > > if you use muse for all it has a playlist feature.
> > > > hth
> > > > 
> > > > -- 
> > > > If I traveled to the end of the rainbow
> > > > As Dame Fortune did intend,
> > > > Murphy would be there to tell me
> > > > The pot's at the other end.
> > > > 		-- Bert Whitney
> > > > Shaun Oliver
> > > > http://blindman.homelinux.org/~blindman/
> > > > 
> > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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Re: ot: broadcasting to a shoutcast server

[Alex Snow]

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nope, and the manpage isn't very helpful.
On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 
01:52:41PM -0400, Igor Gueths wrote:
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> Have you figured a way to do it with the cli interface? Switching between channels I mean...
> On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 01:08:45PM -0400, Alex Snow wrote:
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> > to chose between which channel a certain atribute is for you prefix it 
> > with the -N# option where # is the channel. so lets say I want channel 
> > one to play fu.pls and channel 2 to play bar.pls I'd do -N1 fu.pls -N2 
> > bar.pls.
> > hth.
> > 
> > P.S. too bad the curses interface and speakup don't get along because 
> > that'd make realtime broadcasting much easier.
> > On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 
> > 10:51:03AM -0400, Igor Gueths wrote:
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> > > The one thing I haven't been able to figure out yet is how to set specific sources to certain channels...Like, if I modify a playlist for example in realtime, and a song ends, I wonder if it 
> > > would go to the next song I queued in the playlist? And then how to switch to let's say...Mic...Other than that, its usable for me. The one thing I haven't figured out, and it seems to be a 
> > > bug, is that when you stream to multiple servers...You can't specify bitrates, you have to resort to using the quality option (-q). Might anyone know why that is? Thanks!
> > > On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 08:53:00AM -0400, Alex Snow wrote:
> > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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> > > > 
> > > > Yeah that's the way I have ot running right now, but one thing I don't 
> > > > like is that it lacks a shuffle feature so it plays songs in the same 
> > > > order over and over and over.
> > > > On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 08:33:24PM +1000, 
> > > > Shaun Oliver wrote:
> > > > > if you use muse for all it has a playlist feature.
> > > > > hth
> > > > > 
> > > > > -- 
> > > > > If I traveled to the end of the rainbow
> > > > > As Dame Fortune did intend,
> > > > > Murphy would be there to tell me
> > > > > The pot's at the other end.
> > > > > 		-- Bert Whitney
> > > > > Shaun Oliver
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> > Linus what I think about backspace and delete not working.
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Re: ot: broadcasting to a shoutcast server

[Christopher Sullivan]

            Hi all,
I recently tryed to install the fidora distribution, infact I wasted all day 
trying to get it to work.
I downloaded and burned all 4 cds, and inserted the first cd into the drive 
and booted into linux.
The issue is that I can not get Linux to boot into text mode.
I tryed typing textt speakup_synth=bns then enter.
I also just tryed typing text then enter, it never responds, it does however 
pause at the boot prompt for 4 minutes or so and then go to another screen 
and pause for another few minutes.
Any suggestions would be highly appreciated.
Btw, I am using a braille light 18 as a synthasizer, and I am running a 
3.2ghz system with 2 harddrives and a gig of ram.

Thanks in advance for your help
Sincerely,
Christopher Sullivan

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Shaun Oliver" <shaun.oliver@optusnet.com.au>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 5:33 AM
Subject: Re: ot: broadcasting to a shoutcast server


> if you use muse for all it has a playlist feature.
> hth
>
> -- 
> If I traveled to the end of the rainbow
> As Dame Fortune did intend,
> Murphy would be there to tell me
> The pot's at the other end.
> -- Bert Whitney
> Shaun Oliver
> http://blindman.homelinux.org/~blindman/
>
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> 

thanks for the speakup and sonar ideas.

[Karen Lewellen]

Thanks to everyone who offered their wisdom as to the possibility of 
creating some kind of structure that would allow for using window e yes 
sonar and a Linux
environment.  I welcome knowing if something cannot be done with the 
reasons rather than just he  idea of it being difficult at this time but 
no explanation why.
btw, and i guess this too is a no.  as the most popular driver even with 
Linux and speakup is lynx, then the security test boxes used at some 
places must not be achievable with Linux either?
Karen

Re: thanks for the speakup and sonar ideas.

[Erik Heil]

Hi their.  No, varification utilizing graphic immages is not at all 
accessible.  Actually, now that you point it out, the services that 
utilize this mechanism actually made it a lot more complicated.  Similar 
systems exist, but instead of using graphic images, they simply will send 
the user e-mail as part or as a complete verification sollution.  This is 
a lot better, as it doesn't require the use of pixelated immages, and is 
also accessible.  Speaking of which, what can we do as blind persons to 
change this behavior?  Because if this contiues, I can see a serious 
problem in uu being able to access crucial information.  If any of you 
have suggestions on waht we can do, post them to the list.  B/c I'm 
certainly interested in what can be done.  Yahoo! is not the only company 
which seems to do this.  Paypal does this, but at least they provide an 
audio interface to the numbers or characters which are to be entered in 
such boxes.  Industry-wide though, their should be a solution.  Ok guys, 
I'm done and I'm off my loap box right now.  Its just that it frustrates 
me a lot.

-- 
Erik Heil <eheil@va3duk.serveftp.com>
Phone: (865) 673-0542

Re: thanks for the speakup and sonar ideas.

[Alex Snow]

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Hi.
The reason that most companies don't use email verification is because 
it defeates the purpose of the number varification. The reason these 
numbers are used, and that the image isn't clear enough to be 
recognised by ocr is that they don't want computers to automatically 
create an account. if email was used, all the software would have to 
do is parse the email and grab the varification url.
On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 
at 01:29:57AM -0400, Erik Heil wrote:
> Hi their.  No, varification utilizing graphic immages is not at all 
> accessible.  Actually, now that you point it out, the services that 
> utilize this mechanism actually made it a lot more complicated.  Similar 
> systems exist, but instead of using graphic images, they simply will send 
> the user e-mail as part or as a complete verification sollution.  This is 
> a lot better, as it doesn't require the use of pixelated immages, and is 
> also accessible.  Speaking of which, what can we do as blind persons to 
> change this behavior?  Because if this contiues, I can see a serious 
> problem in uu being able to access crucial information.  If any of you 
> have suggestions on waht we can do, post them to the list.  B/c I'm 
> certainly interested in what can be done.  Yahoo! is not the only company 
> which seems to do this.  Paypal does this, but at least they provide an 
> audio interface to the numbers or characters which are to be entered in 
> such boxes.  Industry-wide though, their should be a solution.  Ok guys, 
> I'm done and I'm off my loap box right now.  Its just that it frustrates 
> me a lot.
> 
> -- 
> Erik Heil <eheil@va3duk.serveftp.com>
> Phone: (865) 673-0542
> 
> 
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grace of Linux, which just tells me they have never seen a angry penguin 
charging at them in excess of 100mph.  They'd be a lot more careful about what 
they say if they had. 
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Re: thanks for the speakup and sonar ideas.

[Karen Lewellen]

hi,
This I knew. so of course such is off limits for all speach?


On Fri, 27 Aug 2004, Alex Snow wrote:

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> Hi.
> The reason that most companies don't use email verification is because
> it defeates the purpose of the number varification. The reason these
> numbers are used, and that the image isn't clear enough to be
> recognised by ocr is that they don't want computers to automatically
> create an account. if email was used, all the software would have to
> do is parse the email and grab the varification url.
> On Fri, Aug 27, 2004
> at 01:29:57AM -0400, Erik Heil wrote:
>> Hi their.  No, varification utilizing graphic immages is not at all
>> accessible.  Actually, now that you point it out, the services that
>> utilize this mechanism actually made it a lot more complicated.  Similar
>> systems exist, but instead of using graphic images, they simply will send
>> the user e-mail as part or as a complete verification sollution.  This is
>> a lot better, as it doesn't require the use of pixelated immages, and is
>> also accessible.  Speaking of which, what can we do as blind persons to
>> change this behavior?  Because if this contiues, I can see a serious
>> problem in uu being able to access crucial information.  If any of you
>> have suggestions on waht we can do, post them to the list.  B/c I'm
>> certainly interested in what can be done.  Yahoo! is not the only company
>> which seems to do this.  Paypal does this, but at least they provide an
>> audio interface to the numbers or characters which are to be entered in
>> such boxes.  Industry-wide though, their should be a solution.  Ok guys,
>> I'm done and I'm off my loap box right now.  Its just that it frustrates
>> me a lot.
>>
>> --
>> Erik Heil <eheil@va3duk.serveftp.com>
>> Phone: (865) 673-0542
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
> - --
> Some people have told me they don't think a fat penguin really embodies the
> grace of Linux, which just tells me they have never seen a angry penguin
> charging at them in excess of 100mph.  They'd be a lot more careful about what
> they say if they had.
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Re: ot: broadcasting to a shoutcast server

[Erik Heil]

Hi their.  what is a shame is that the Muse ncurses interface is so 
broken.  I'm not sure if its been fixed in CVS builds though, but I think 
that will be the best solution for broadcasting.  I've not played with the 
CVS version, so maybe some of you guys that have can update us on this? 
Right now, I don't even have a mic, so no broadcasting here atm.


On Wed, 25 Aug 2004, Igor Gueths wrote:

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> I have a Mic that has a power button...Therefore when i want to talk through the Mic I just turn it back on. For playing music, I run copies of Mplayer...Which ends up working quite well
> actually. What lacks though is a playlist, however I managed to get used to that.
> On Wed, Aug 25, 2004 at 08:14:28PM +1000, Shaun Oliver wrote:
>> ok how did you get muse to save it's settings, forther more how did you
>> get to do all it claims i.e. being able to talk through the mic and
>> stuff?
>> I'd really love to know cause I wana play with it here.
>>
>> --
>> Religion has done love a great service by making it a sin.
>> 		-- Anatole France
>> Shaun Oliver
>> http://blindman.homelinux.org/~blindman/
>>
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Phone: (865) 673-0542