* the speakup install @ Jed Barton ` Ed Barnes ` Janina Sajka 0 siblings, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Jed Barton @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hey guys. OK forgive me for asking this question, but how to you install this softwhere? I would guess you have to have sighted assistance with the install of linux and then you go from there? Let me know. Regards, Jed ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: the speakup install the speakup install Jed Barton @ ` Ed Barnes ` anyone tried an alpha machine with speakup Brian Moore ` the speakup install Jed Barton ` Janina Sajka 1 sibling, 2 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Ed Barnes @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi Jed: No sir. Actually the speakup modified Red Hat distribution for which I am eternally greatful to Bill and Janina for maintaining and making available to everyone doesn't work the way you've guessed, it's exactly the opposite. It is designed such that a blind person can install Red Hat him or herself without assistance from a sighted person of any kind. The installation is quite strait forward and Janina has put a great deal of work into writing a wonderful howto for all to refer too so you will likely find it very beneficial to read this document before you install and if you get stuck of course you can always call on Bill who is very helpful to newbies such as you and I from my experience in corresponding with im via email and speaking to him on the telephone. It has been my experience from reading Janina's howto which you can find on Speakup's web site that it will probably answer many of the questions you will have, however; if it doesn't answer something of course write to this list and or blinux-newbie@braille.uwo.ca if you subscribe to that list as well. I hope this response is of some assistance and if I may be of more assistance to you feel free to contact me either directly on list or via direct email using my address below. Best regards, good luck, and hope you end up enjoying Linux as much as I have in the 4 too 5 months I've been exploring and learning. Ed Barnes ebarnes@enigma2.cjb.net On Mon, 17 Jun 2002, Jed Barton wrote: > Hey guys. OK forgive me for asking this question, but how to you > install this softwhere? > I would guess you have to have sighted assistance with the install of linux > and then you go from there? > Let me know. > > Regards, > Jed > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* anyone tried an alpha machine with speakup ` Ed Barnes @ ` Brian Moore ` Janina Sajka ` the speakup install Jed Barton 1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Brian Moore @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup HI all. had someone offer to give me a couple of alpha boxes to play with. I know basically nothing about alpha systems and want to learn. I know there are linux distros which will run on an alpha box. wonder if I can compile speakup into any of these from source code? wonder if the hardware designations are the same like for the serial ports and such. any got any reading suggestions for an intro to alpha machines how they work and such. many thanks. Brian. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Barnes" <ebarnes@enigma2.cjb.net> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 10:33 AM Subject: Re: the speakup install > Hi Jed: > No sir. > Actually the speakup modified Red Hat distribution for which I am > eternally greatful to Bill and Janina for maintaining and making > available to everyone doesn't work the way you've guessed, it's exactly > the opposite. > It is designed such that a blind person can install Red Hat him or herself > without assistance from a sighted person of any kind. > The installation is quite strait forward and Janina has put a great deal > of work into writing a wonderful howto for all to refer too so you will > likely find it very beneficial to read this document before you install > and if you get stuck of course you can always call on Bill who is very > helpful to newbies such as you and I from my experience in corresponding > with im via email and speaking to him on the telephone. > It has been my experience from reading Janina's howto which you can find > on Speakup's web site that it will probably answer many of the questions > you will have, however; if it doesn't answer something of course write to > this list and or blinux-newbie@braille.uwo.ca if you subscribe to that > list as well. > I hope this response is of some assistance and if I may be of more > assistance to you feel free to contact me either directly on list or via > direct email using my address below. > Best regards, good luck, and hope you end up enjoying Linux as much as I > have in the 4 too 5 months I've been exploring and learning. > > Ed Barnes ebarnes@enigma2.cjb.net > > On Mon, 17 Jun > 2002, Jed Barton wrote: > > > Hey guys. OK forgive me for asking this question, but how to you > > install this softwhere? > > I would guess you have to have sighted assistance with the install of linux > > and then you go from there? > > Let me know. > > > > Regards, > > Jed > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: anyone tried an alpha machine with speakup ` anyone tried an alpha machine with speakup Brian Moore @ ` Janina Sajka 0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup I have one, courtessy of Kirk and Frank's technical assistance. Mine did talk once, but doesn't at this time. I would go for it, were I you. What's to lose? They're nice machines, and if there are more to be had than you want to take, I'll take one too. On Mon, 17 Jun 2002, Brian Moore wrote: > HI all. had someone offer to give me a couple of alpha boxes to play with. > I know basically nothing about alpha systems and want to learn. I know > there are linux distros which will run on an alpha box. wonder if I can > compile speakup into any of these from source code? > > wonder if the hardware designations are the same like for the serial ports > and such. any got any reading suggestions for an intro to alpha machines > how they work and such. > > many thanks. > > Brian. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ed Barnes" <ebarnes@enigma2.cjb.net> > To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> > Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 10:33 AM > Subject: Re: the speakup install > > > > Hi Jed: > > No sir. > > Actually the speakup modified Red Hat distribution for which I am > > eternally greatful to Bill and Janina for maintaining and making > > available to everyone doesn't work the way you've guessed, it's exactly > > the opposite. > > It is designed such that a blind person can install Red Hat him or herself > > without assistance from a sighted person of any kind. > > The installation is quite strait forward and Janina has put a great deal > > of work into writing a wonderful howto for all to refer too so you will > > likely find it very beneficial to read this document before you install > > and if you get stuck of course you can always call on Bill who is very > > helpful to newbies such as you and I from my experience in corresponding > > with im via email and speaking to him on the telephone. > > It has been my experience from reading Janina's howto which you can find > > on Speakup's web site that it will probably answer many of the questions > > you will have, however; if it doesn't answer something of course write to > > this list and or blinux-newbie@braille.uwo.ca if you subscribe to that > > list as well. > > I hope this response is of some assistance and if I may be of more > > assistance to you feel free to contact me either directly on list or via > > direct email using my address below. > > Best regards, good luck, and hope you end up enjoying Linux as much as I > > have in the 4 too 5 months I've been exploring and learning. > > > > Ed Barnes ebarnes@enigma2.cjb.net > > > > On Mon, 17 Jun > > 2002, Jed Barton wrote: > > > > > Hey guys. OK forgive me for asking this question, but how to you > > > install this softwhere? > > > I would guess you have to have sighted assistance with the install of > linux > > > and then you go from there? > > > Let me know. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Jed > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: the speakup install ` Ed Barnes ` anyone tried an alpha machine with speakup Brian Moore @ ` Jed Barton ` Ed Barnes 1 sibling, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread From: Jed Barton @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Holy smokes!!! Wow Ed, that is great, a fresh install, that's wild!!! Very nice, thanks so much for the info. Regards, JedAt 12:03 PM 6/17/02 -02-30, you wrote: >Hi Jed: >No sir. >Actually the speakup modified Red Hat distribution for which I am >eternally greatful to Bill and Janina for maintaining and making >available to everyone doesn't work the way you've guessed, it's exactly >the opposite. >It is designed such that a blind person can install Red Hat him or herself >without assistance from a sighted person of any kind. >The installation is quite strait forward and Janina has put a great deal >of work into writing a wonderful howto for all to refer too so you will >likely find it very beneficial to read this document before you install >and if you get stuck of course you can always call on Bill who is very >helpful to newbies such as you and I from my experience in corresponding >with im via email and speaking to him on the telephone. >It has been my experience from reading Janina's howto which you can find >on Speakup's web site that it will probably answer many of the questions >you will have, however; if it doesn't answer something of course write to >this list and or blinux-newbie@braille.uwo.ca if you subscribe to that >list as well. >I hope this response is of some assistance and if I may be of more >assistance to you feel free to contact me either directly on list or via >direct email using my address below. >Best regards, good luck, and hope you end up enjoying Linux as much as I >have in the 4 too 5 months I've been exploring and learning. > >Ed Barnes ebarnes@enigma2.cjb.net > >On Mon, 17 Jun >2002, Jed Barton wrote: > > > Hey guys. OK forgive me for asking this > question, but how to you > > install this softwhere? > > I would guess you have to have sighted assistance with the install of > linux > > and then you go from there? > > Let me know. > > > > Regards, > > Jed > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Speakup mailing list > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: the speakup install ` the speakup install Jed Barton @ ` Ed Barnes 0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Ed Barnes @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hey Jed, of course you're welcome, further as I said in my earlier message if I can be of further assistance don't hesitate to get in touch. Hth. Ed Ed Barnes ebarnes@enigma2.cjb.net On Mon, 17 Jun 2002, Jed Barton wrote: > Holy smokes!!! > Wow Ed, that is great, a fresh install, that's wild!!! > Very nice, thanks so much for the info. > > Regards, > JedAt 12:03 PM 6/17/02 -02-30, you wrote: > >Hi Jed: > >No sir. > >Actually the speakup modified Red Hat distribution for which I am > >eternally greatful to Bill and Janina for maintaining and making > >available to everyone doesn't work the way you've guessed, it's exactly > >the opposite. > >It is designed such that a blind person can install Red Hat him or herself > >without assistance from a sighted person of any kind. > >The installation is quite strait forward and Janina has put a great deal > >of work into writing a wonderful howto for all to refer too so you will > >likely find it very beneficial to read this document before you install > >and if you get stuck of course you can always call on Bill who is very > >helpful to newbies such as you and I from my experience in corresponding > >with im via email and speaking to him on the telephone. > >It has been my experience from reading Janina's howto which you can find > >on Speakup's web site that it will probably answer many of the questions > >you will have, however; if it doesn't answer something of course write to > >this list and or blinux-newbie@braille.uwo.ca if you subscribe to that > >list as well. > >I hope this response is of some assistance and if I may be of more > >assistance to you feel free to contact me either directly on list or via > >direct email using my address below. > >Best regards, good luck, and hope you end up enjoying Linux as much as I > >have in the 4 too 5 months I've been exploring and learning. > > > >Ed Barnes ebarnes@enigma2.cjb.net > > > >On Mon, 17 Jun > >2002, Jed Barton wrote: > > > > > Hey guys. OK forgive me for asking this > > question, but how to you > > > install this softwhere? > > > I would guess you have to have sighted assistance with the install of > > linux > > > and then you go from there? > > > Let me know. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Jed > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speakup mailing list > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Speakup mailing list > >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
* Re: the speakup install the speakup install Jed Barton ` Ed Barnes @ ` Janina Sajka 1 sibling, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: speakup Hi, Jed: No, you do not need sighted assistance in many cases. I would go further and say you almost certainly don't need sighted assistance if you're dedicating a machine entirely to Linux. And, if you backup before you start and are very careful, you can repartition without sighted assistance and get a dual booting system. Read the HOWTO on installation for the Speakup Modified Red Hat Distribution at: http://www.linux-speakup.org/ftp/disks/redhat/HOWTO_INSTALL.html PS: This document will be updated later today, so please refresh your view of it when you see the announcement on this list about the updating. On Mon, 17 Jun 2002, Jed Barton wrote: > Hey guys. OK forgive me for asking this question, but how to you > install this softwhere? > I would guess you have to have sighted assistance with the install of linux > and then you go from there? > Let me know. > > Regards, > Jed > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 7+ messages in thread
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