fc3 download

fc3 download

[Juan Hernandez]

Hi,

I tried going to ftp.octothorp.org, and I can't access it.  is there any site else where I can get the 2/22/2005 release of the fc3 disk1-4.  the linux-speakup site is extremely slow.  Thanks

Re: fc3 download

[John McCann]

Juan:

Go to my FTP site; takes about 2.5 hours per disk there; not great, but 
better than 10-15 hours per:

ftp.jamsite.us/linux

John


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Juan Hernandez" <juanh@cox.net>
To: "speakup" <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 12:55 PM
Subject: fc3 download


Hi,

I tried going to ftp.octothorp.org, and I can't access it.  is there any 
site else where I can get the 2/22/2005 release of the fc3 disk1-4.  the 
linux-speakup site is extremely slow.  Thanks
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Re: fc3 download

[Janina Sajka]

You can purchase a four disk CD ROM set of the Speakup Modified Fedora Distribution from Cheap Bytes at the following URL:

http://cart.cheapbytes.com/cgi-bin/cart/0070011139.html

It might be worth the $9 to avoid all the agravation of slow downloads.

Juan Hernandez writes:
> Hi,
> 
> I tried going to ftp.octothorp.org, and I can't access it.  is there any site else where I can get the 2/22/2005 release of the fc3 disk1-4.  the linux-speakup site is extremely slow.  Thanks
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

-- 

Janina Sajka				Phone: +1.202.494.7040
Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC	http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com

Chair, Accessibility Workgroup		Free Standards Group (FSG)
janina@freestandards.org		http://a11y.org

If Linux can't solve your computing problem, you need a different problem.

RE: fc3 download

[Sina Bahram]

Hi Janina,

I haven't gotten a response to my last email yet ... I would love to be able
to offer a mirror, so let's work it out.

Take care,
Sina

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 2:05 PM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: fc3 download

You can purchase a four disk CD ROM set of the Speakup Modified Fedora
Distribution from Cheap Bytes at the following URL:

http://cart.cheapbytes.com/cgi-bin/cart/0070011139.html

It might be worth the $9 to avoid all the agravation of slow downloads.

Juan Hernandez writes:
> Hi,
> 
> I tried going to ftp.octothorp.org, and I can't access it.  is there 
> any site else where I can get the 2/22/2005 release of the fc3 
> disk1-4.  the linux-speakup site is extremely slow.  Thanks 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

-- 

Janina Sajka				Phone: +1.202.494.7040
Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC	http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com

Chair, Accessibility Workgroup		Free Standards Group (FSG)
janina@freestandards.org		http://a11y.org

If Linux can't solve your computing problem, you need a different problem.


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instalation problem-- was Re: fc3 download

[Al Puzzuoli]

Hi all,
i'm having a problem and I'm not sure whether I'm hosed or if there's a way 
to continue without redownloading everything.

After downloading the majority of FC3 from the site John has so kindly made 
available, I thought I was ready to start my install.  However, before I 
knew about John's site, I downloaded some of the isos from linux-speakup, 
and I don't remember now which isos I got from which site. At the time, I 
assumed they were the same version.

At any rate, after I burned my disks, the first problem I noticed was that 
for some reason, my disk 1 wasn't bootable.  I then burned the boot.iso 
image from that disk, which booted fine.  I thought I was off and running, 
the install asked me all of its questions and began chugging along on disk 
1.  However, it then asked for disk 2.  I put in what should have been disk 
2 and was told "wrong cd-rom".

So, now what?  I don't know if the isos on John's site are a different 
version, or if one of the disk 2 isos is really not disk 2, or if I got a 
bad download of something... grumble!

Is there a way to identify the disks and/or versions by looking at the 
directories?



Any thoughts/suggestions would be appreciated. 

Re: fc3 download

[Janina Sajka]

Hi, Sina:

I hope they come through. 20 Gb isn't that much in today's on line
world.

I think it useful if we have several options, so I hope that both your
North Carolina site and the Canadian site I'm working on will mirror
Speakup. But, I'm also very pleased that Cheap Bytes is now an option
for anyone who can't, or doesn't want to download the Speakup Modified
Fedora for whatever reason. Getting 4 disks in the mail for around $10
USD just isn't that bad. To my mind, it's great to give people options.
We're beginning to have a few more options, and that's a good thing.


Sina Bahram writes:
> Hi Janina,
> 
> I haven't gotten a response to my last email yet ... I would love to be able
> to offer a mirror, so let's work it out.
> 
> Take care,
> Sina
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
> Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 2:05 PM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: fc3 download
> 
> You can purchase a four disk CD ROM set of the Speakup Modified Fedora
> Distribution from Cheap Bytes at the following URL:
> 
> http://cart.cheapbytes.com/cgi-bin/cart/0070011139.html
> 
> It might be worth the $9 to avoid all the agravation of slow downloads.
> 
> Juan Hernandez writes:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I tried going to ftp.octothorp.org, and I can't access it.  is there 
> > any site else where I can get the 2/22/2005 release of the fc3 
> > disk1-4.  the linux-speakup site is extremely slow.  Thanks 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> -- 
> 
> Janina Sajka				Phone: +1.202.494.7040
> Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC	http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com
> 
> Chair, Accessibility Workgroup		Free Standards Group (FSG)
> janina@freestandards.org		http://a11y.org
> 
> If Linux can't solve your computing problem, you need a different problem.
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

-- 

Janina Sajka				Phone: +1.202.494.7040
Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC	http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com

Chair, Accessibility Workgroup		Free Standards Group (FSG)
janina@freestandards.org		http://a11y.org

If Linux can't solve your computing problem, you need a different problem.

Re: instalation problem-- was Re: fc3 download

[Janina Sajka]

Unfortunately, this problem you've stumbled into is all too common,
especially for people installing for the first time.

If you already have Linux, you can run what's called an md5sum check on
the downloaded image files, and also on your burned disks. This is the
only sure way to tell you haven't mixed versions--and it's extremely
important not to mix versions as you've now discovered.

If you can't run md5sum, for example because you only have Windows now,
you can certainly look at the iso file byte size and date stamps. That
should indicate whether or not you've mixed versions.

I'm very sorry, but you'll need to get a complete set in order to
install successfully.

Al Puzzuoli writes:
> Hi all,
> i'm having a problem and I'm not sure whether I'm hosed or if there's a way 
> to continue without redownloading everything.
> 
> After downloading the majority of FC3 from the site John has so kindly made 
> available, I thought I was ready to start my install.  However, before I 
> knew about John's site, I downloaded some of the isos from linux-speakup, 
> and I don't remember now which isos I got from which site. At the time, I 
> assumed they were the same version.
> 
> At any rate, after I burned my disks, the first problem I noticed was that 
> for some reason, my disk 1 wasn't bootable.  I then burned the boot.iso 
> image from that disk, which booted fine.  I thought I was off and running, 
> the install asked me all of its questions and began chugging along on disk 
> 1.  However, it then asked for disk 2.  I put in what should have been disk 
> 2 and was told "wrong cd-rom".
> 
> So, now what?  I don't know if the isos on John's site are a different 
> version, or if one of the disk 2 isos is really not disk 2, or if I got a 
> bad download of something... grumble!
> 
> Is there a way to identify the disks and/or versions by looking at the 
> directories?
> 
> 
> 
> Any thoughts/suggestions would be appreciated. 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

-- 

Janina Sajka				Phone: +1.202.494.7040
Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC	http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com

Chair, Accessibility Workgroup		Free Standards Group (FSG)
janina@freestandards.org		http://a11y.org

If Linux can't solve your computing problem, you need a different problem.

Re: instalation problem-- was Re: fc3 download

[Al Puzzuoli]

Hi Janina,

Sigh.  I take it no  progress  has been made on the mirror yet right?  I was 
planning on getting this done this weekend but at this point, the download 
speeds being what they are, I'm not sure if that's possible any longer.


Thanks



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 6:04 PM
Subject: Re: instalation problem-- was Re: fc3 download


> Unfortunately, this problem you've stumbled into is all too common,
> especially for people installing for the first time.
>
> If you already have Linux, you can run what's called an md5sum check on
> the downloaded image files, and also on your burned disks. This is the
> only sure way to tell you haven't mixed versions--and it's extremely
> important not to mix versions as you've now discovered.
>
> If you can't run md5sum, for example because you only have Windows now,
> you can certainly look at the iso file byte size and date stamps. That
> should indicate whether or not you've mixed versions.
>
> I'm very sorry, but you'll need to get a complete set in order to
> install successfully.
>
> Al Puzzuoli writes:
>> Hi all,
>> i'm having a problem and I'm not sure whether I'm hosed or if there's a 
>> way
>> to continue without redownloading everything.
>>
>> After downloading the majority of FC3 from the site John has so kindly 
>> made
>> available, I thought I was ready to start my install.  However, before I
>> knew about John's site, I downloaded some of the isos from linux-speakup,
>> and I don't remember now which isos I got from which site. At the time, I
>> assumed they were the same version.
>>
>> At any rate, after I burned my disks, the first problem I noticed was 
>> that
>> for some reason, my disk 1 wasn't bootable.  I then burned the boot.iso
>> image from that disk, which booted fine.  I thought I was off and 
>> running,
>> the install asked me all of its questions and began chugging along on 
>> disk
>> 1.  However, it then asked for disk 2.  I put in what should have been 
>> disk
>> 2 and was told "wrong cd-rom".
>>
>> So, now what?  I don't know if the isos on John's site are a different
>> version, or if one of the disk 2 isos is really not disk 2, or if I got a
>> bad download of something... grumble!
>>
>> Is there a way to identify the disks and/or versions by looking at the
>> directories?
>>
>>
>>
>> Any thoughts/suggestions would be appreciated.
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
> -- 
>
> Janina Sajka Phone: +1.202.494.7040
> Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com
>
> Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG)
> janina@freestandards.org http://a11y.org
>
> If Linux can't solve your computing problem, you need a different problem.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

Re: instalation problem-- was Re: fc3 download

[Al Puzzuoli]

Interesting, The date stamps for my isos are as follows:  It would seem to 
me like they should all be of the same version:

FC3-i386-disc1.iso 645,386 KB Undisker ISO image 2/24/2005 9:30 PM
FC3-i386-disc2.iso 653,208 KB Undisker ISO image 2/24/2005 10:37 AM
FC3-i386-disc3.iso 652,144 KB Undisker ISO image 2/25/2005 3:22 AM
FC3-i386-disc4.iso 405,060 KB Undisker ISO image 2/25/2005 4:57 AM 

RE: instalation problem-- was Re: fc3 download

[Sina Bahram]

You can always download an md5 sum for windows ... That would immediately
clear up any ocnfusion.

Take care,
Sina 

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Al Puzzuoli
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 6:33 PM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: instalation problem-- was Re: fc3 download

Interesting, The date stamps for my isos are as follows:  It would seem to
me like they should all be of the same version:

FC3-i386-disc1.iso 645,386 KB Undisker ISO image 2/24/2005 9:30 PM
FC3-i386-disc2.iso 653,208 KB Undisker ISO image 2/24/2005 10:37 AM
FC3-i386-disc3.iso 652,144 KB Undisker ISO image 2/25/2005 3:22 AM
FC3-i386-disc4.iso 405,060 KB Undisker ISO image 2/25/2005 4:57 AM 


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Re: instalation problem-- was Re: fc3 download

[John McCann]

Hi Al:

Well, your post below has revealed one thing to me; i.e., that it is the 
"receiving" computer which furnishes the time and date stamps. My time and 
date stamps vary more significantly than yours do because the entire 
exercise of retrieving the 02/19/2005 images was necessarily spread out over 
forty plus hours, given the 10K-12K download speed I was dealing with. 
However, this I can tell you; the images I downloaded were all date-stamped 
02/19/2005, with times between 4:15 a.m. and 4:22 a.m.; hence, they are all 
from the same set.

If you want to go through the exercise of downloading them all again from my 
site, you're certainly welcome, though that exercise will take you 10-12 
hours, and will also, like as not, necessitate your interrupting sleep to 
start successive iso image downloads. However, if you begun now, you'd be 
able to install tomorrow. Oh, wait, I just now remember what Sena has 
written, so, if you're not that windows averse (and have access to a windows 
box), you can do a check sum to see what's going on.

If you do download all the disks again from my site and experience the same 
problem, please let me know as this would mean that I don't have a 
legitimate or functioning set; something I need to know if in fact that is 
the case.

As I'm leaving for an overnight social engagement, don't expect any further 
emails from me for the next sixteen hours or so.

John


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Al Puzzuoli" <alpuzz@comcast.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: instalation problem-- was Re: fc3 download


> Interesting, The date stamps for my isos are as follows:  It would seem to 
> me like they should all be of the same version:
>
> FC3-i386-disc1.iso 645,386 KB Undisker ISO image 2/24/2005 9:30 PM
> FC3-i386-disc2.iso 653,208 KB Undisker ISO image 2/24/2005 10:37 AM
> FC3-i386-disc3.iso 652,144 KB Undisker ISO image 2/25/2005 3:22 AM
> FC3-i386-disc4.iso 405,060 KB Undisker ISO image 2/25/2005 4:57 AM
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

Re: instalation problem-- was Re: fc3 download

[Al Puzzuoli]

Hi john,

Again, thanks very much for posting these and allowing those of us on the 
list access to them.  At this point though, I think I'm going to download 
the regular FC3 isos and do a BRLTTY install.  I'll worry about speakup 
after the fact.  At this point, I think this will be the quickest solution.

If you get a chance though, you might want to check your disk 1 image, as 
there seems to be a problem in that it isn't bootable for some reason.  As I 
said, I downloaded several images from your site and several from the main 
ftp site.  However, the sum of disk1 didn't match the one on the main ftp so 
I'm assuming I got that one from you.
The sum of the one i have that isn't booting is:
d016692cfde7456c6ca021b879833903


Thanks again,

--Al

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John McCann" <lists@jamsite.us>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 8:15 PM
Subject: Re: instalation problem-- was Re: fc3 download


> Hi Al:
>
> Well, your post below has revealed one thing to me; i.e., that it is the 
> "receiving" computer which furnishes the time and date stamps. My time and 
> date stamps vary more significantly than yours do because the entire 
> exercise of retrieving the 02/19/2005 images was necessarily spread out 
> over forty plus hours, given the 10K-12K download speed I was dealing 
> with. However, this I can tell you; the images I downloaded were all 
> date-stamped 02/19/2005, with times between 4:15 a.m. and 4:22 a.m.; 
> hence, they are all from the same set.
>
> If you want to go through the exercise of downloading them all again from 
> my site, you're certainly welcome, though that exercise will take you 
> 10-12 hours, and will also, like as not, necessitate your interrupting 
> sleep to start successive iso image downloads. However, if you begun now, 
> you'd be able to install tomorrow. Oh, wait, I just now remember what Sena 
> has written, so, if you're not that windows averse (and have access to a 
> windows box), you can do a check sum to see what's going on.
>
> If you do download all the disks again from my site and experience the 
> same problem, please let me know as this would mean that I don't have a 
> legitimate or functioning set; something I need to know if in fact that is 
> the case.
>
> As I'm leaving for an overnight social engagement, don't expect any 
> further emails from me for the next sixteen hours or so.
>
> John
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Al Puzzuoli" <alpuzz@comcast.net>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 6:33 PM
> Subject: Re: instalation problem-- was Re: fc3 download
>
>
>> Interesting, The date stamps for my isos are as follows:  It would seem 
>> to me like they should all be of the same version:
>>
>> FC3-i386-disc1.iso 645,386 KB Undisker ISO image 2/24/2005 9:30 PM
>> FC3-i386-disc2.iso 653,208 KB Undisker ISO image 2/24/2005 10:37 AM
>> FC3-i386-disc3.iso 652,144 KB Undisker ISO image 2/25/2005 3:22 AM
>> FC3-i386-disc4.iso 405,060 KB Undisker ISO image 2/25/2005 4:57 AM
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup 

Re: instalation problem-- was Re: fc3 download

[John McCann]

Al:

Am still here, courtesy of DC's paratransit, though they're not all that 
late yet, <smile>.

Okay, big-time thanks for this report. Assuming that the 02/19/2005 
iteration of disk 1 is still available, I'll start that download now, and 
let it take its sweet time while I'm out partying, <smile again.!

John


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Al Puzzuoli" <alpuzz@comcast.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 9:15 PM
Subject: Re: instalation problem-- was Re: fc3 download


> Hi john,
>
> Again, thanks very much for posting these and allowing those of us on the 
> list access to them.  At this point though, I think I'm going to download 
> the regular FC3 isos and do a BRLTTY install.  I'll worry about speakup 
> after the fact.  At this point, I think this will be the quickest 
> solution.
>
> If you get a chance though, you might want to check your disk 1 image, as 
> there seems to be a problem in that it isn't bootable for some reason.  As 
> I said, I downloaded several images from your site and several from the 
> main ftp site.  However, the sum of disk1 didn't match the one on the main 
> ftp so I'm assuming I got that one from you.
> The sum of the one i have that isn't booting is:
> d016692cfde7456c6ca021b879833903
>
>
> Thanks again,
>
> --Al
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "John McCann" <lists@jamsite.us>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 8:15 PM
> Subject: Re: instalation problem-- was Re: fc3 download
>
>
>> Hi Al:
>>
>> Well, your post below has revealed one thing to me; i.e., that it is the 
>> "receiving" computer which furnishes the time and date stamps. My time 
>> and date stamps vary more significantly than yours do because the entire 
>> exercise of retrieving the 02/19/2005 images was necessarily spread out 
>> over forty plus hours, given the 10K-12K download speed I was dealing 
>> with. However, this I can tell you; the images I downloaded were all 
>> date-stamped 02/19/2005, with times between 4:15 a.m. and 4:22 a.m.; 
>> hence, they are all from the same set.
>>
>> If you want to go through the exercise of downloading them all again from 
>> my site, you're certainly welcome, though that exercise will take you 
>> 10-12 hours, and will also, like as not, necessitate your interrupting 
>> sleep to start successive iso image downloads. However, if you begun now, 
>> you'd be able to install tomorrow. Oh, wait, I just now remember what 
>> Sena has written, so, if you're not that windows averse (and have access 
>> to a windows box), you can do a check sum to see what's going on.
>>
>> If you do download all the disks again from my site and experience the 
>> same problem, please let me know as this would mean that I don't have a 
>> legitimate or functioning set; something I need to know if in fact that 
>> is the case.
>>
>> As I'm leaving for an overnight social engagement, don't expect any 
>> further emails from me for the next sixteen hours or so.
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Al Puzzuoli" <alpuzz@comcast.net>
>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
>> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>> Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 6:33 PM
>> Subject: Re: instalation problem-- was Re: fc3 download
>>
>>
>>> Interesting, The date stamps for my isos are as follows:  It would seem 
>>> to me like they should all be of the same version:
>>>
>>> FC3-i386-disc1.iso 645,386 KB Undisker ISO image 2/24/2005 9:30 PM
>>> FC3-i386-disc2.iso 653,208 KB Undisker ISO image 2/24/2005 10:37 AM
>>> FC3-i386-disc3.iso 652,144 KB Undisker ISO image 2/25/2005 3:22 AM
>>> FC3-i386-disc4.iso 405,060 KB Undisker ISO image 2/25/2005 4:57 AM
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Speakup mailing list
>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

Re: instalation problem-- was Re: fc3 download

[Gregory Nowak]

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Hash: SHA1

I seem to recall that there were posts some time back on the list
indicating that disc1 of fc3 didn't boot on some machines, and did
boot on others. So, it maybe that there's nothing wrong with John's
images, and your machine may be one of those that won't boot the first
disc. Perhaps someone using fc3 who posted on this earlier, or knows
something about the problem will clarify this.

Greg


On Sat, Feb 26, 2005 at 09:15:07PM -0500, Al Puzzuoli wrote:
> Hi john,
> 
> Again, thanks very much for posting these and allowing those of us on the 
> list access to them.  At this point though, I think I'm going to download 
> the regular FC3 isos and do a BRLTTY install.  I'll worry about speakup 
> after the fact.  At this point, I think this will be the quickest solution.
> 
> If you get a chance though, you might want to check your disk 1 image, as 
> there seems to be a problem in that it isn't bootable for some reason.  As 
> I said, I downloaded several images from your site and several from the 
> main ftp site.  However, the sum of disk1 didn't match the one on the main 
> ftp so I'm assuming I got that one from you.
> The sum of the one i have that isn't booting is:
> d016692cfde7456c6ca021b879833903
> 
> 
> Thanks again,
> 
> --Al
> 

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Re: instalation problem-- was Re: fc3 download

[Al Puzzuoli]

Interesting.  What I  know for sure based on sighted assistance is that if I 
attempt to boot disk 1, the text "boot from CD" flashes for a few seconds, 
and then the system falls back to booting Windows.  My first thought was 
that my boot sequence was messed up, but the boot.iso works just fine.

Weird.

If I have the same problem with disk 1 of the regular set, maybe I'll try 
booting it from the other rom on this machine to see if it makes a 
difference.

--Al


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: instalation problem-- was Re: fc3 download


> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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>
> I seem to recall that there were posts some time back on the list
> indicating that disc1 of fc3 didn't boot on some machines, and did
> boot on others. So, it maybe that there's nothing wrong with John's
> images, and your machine may be one of those that won't boot the first
> disc. Perhaps someone using fc3 who posted on this earlier, or knows
> something about the problem will clarify this.
>
> Greg
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 26, 2005 at 09:15:07PM -0500, Al Puzzuoli wrote:
>> Hi john,
>>
>> Again, thanks very much for posting these and allowing those of us on the
>> list access to them.  At this point though, I think I'm going to download
>> the regular FC3 isos and do a BRLTTY install.  I'll worry about speakup
>> after the fact.  At this point, I think this will be the quickest 
>> solution.
>>
>> If you get a chance though, you might want to check your disk 1 image, as
>> there seems to be a problem in that it isn't bootable for some reason. 
>> As
>> I said, I downloaded several images from your site and several from the
>> main ftp site.  However, the sum of disk1 didn't match the one on the 
>> main
>> ftp so I'm assuming I got that one from you.
>> The sum of the one i have that isn't booting is:
>> d016692cfde7456c6ca021b879833903
>>
>>
>> Thanks again,
>>
>> --Al
>>
>
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Re: instalation problem-- was Re: fc3 download

[Janina Sajka]

Oh, we have progress. Indeed we do.

We just don't have a conclusion, and therefore no mirror on line yet.

Al Puzzuoli writes:
> Hi Janina,
> 
> Sigh.  I take it no  progress  has been made on the mirror yet right?  I 
> was planning on getting this done this weekend but at this point, the 
> download speeds being what they are, I'm not sure if that's possible any 
> longer.
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 6:04 PM
> Subject: Re: instalation problem-- was Re: fc3 download
> 
> 
> >Unfortunately, this problem you've stumbled into is all too common,
> >especially for people installing for the first time.
> >
> >If you already have Linux, you can run what's called an md5sum check on
> >the downloaded image files, and also on your burned disks. This is the
> >only sure way to tell you haven't mixed versions--and it's extremely
> >important not to mix versions as you've now discovered.
> >
> >If you can't run md5sum, for example because you only have Windows now,
> >you can certainly look at the iso file byte size and date stamps. That
> >should indicate whether or not you've mixed versions.
> >
> >I'm very sorry, but you'll need to get a complete set in order to
> >install successfully.
> >
> >Al Puzzuoli writes:
> >>Hi all,
> >>i'm having a problem and I'm not sure whether I'm hosed or if there's a 
> >>way
> >>to continue without redownloading everything.
> >>
> >>After downloading the majority of FC3 from the site John has so kindly 
> >>made
> >>available, I thought I was ready to start my install.  However, before I
> >>knew about John's site, I downloaded some of the isos from linux-speakup,
> >>and I don't remember now which isos I got from which site. At the time, I
> >>assumed they were the same version.
> >>
> >>At any rate, after I burned my disks, the first problem I noticed was 
> >>that
> >>for some reason, my disk 1 wasn't bootable.  I then burned the boot.iso
> >>image from that disk, which booted fine.  I thought I was off and 
> >>running,
> >>the install asked me all of its questions and began chugging along on 
> >>disk
> >>1.  However, it then asked for disk 2.  I put in what should have been 
> >>disk
> >>2 and was told "wrong cd-rom".
> >>
> >>So, now what?  I don't know if the isos on John's site are a different
> >>version, or if one of the disk 2 isos is really not disk 2, or if I got a
> >>bad download of something... grumble!
> >>
> >>Is there a way to identify the disks and/or versions by looking at the
> >>directories?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Any thoughts/suggestions would be appreciated.
> >>
> >>
> >>_______________________________________________
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> >Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com
> >
> >Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG)
> >janina@freestandards.org http://a11y.org
> >
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> >
> >
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Re: instalation problem-- was Re: fc3 download

[Janina Sajka]

Is there a md5sum for Windows? I should add that to the HOWTO. Last time
I looked, which I admit was quite some time ago, the only md5sum
involved installing cygwin.

Sina Bahram writes:
> You can always download an md5 sum for windows ... That would immediately
> clear up any ocnfusion.
> 
> Take care,
> Sina 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of Al Puzzuoli
> Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 6:33 PM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: instalation problem-- was Re: fc3 download
> 
> Interesting, The date stamps for my isos are as follows:  It would seem to
> me like they should all be of the same version:
> 
> FC3-i386-disc1.iso 645,386 KB Undisker ISO image 2/24/2005 9:30 PM
> FC3-i386-disc2.iso 653,208 KB Undisker ISO image 2/24/2005 10:37 AM
> FC3-i386-disc3.iso 652,144 KB Undisker ISO image 2/25/2005 3:22 AM
> FC3-i386-disc4.iso 405,060 KB Undisker ISO image 2/25/2005 4:57 AM 
> 
> 
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
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> 
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Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC	http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com

Chair, Accessibility Workgroup		Free Standards Group (FSG)
janina@freestandards.org		http://a11y.org

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Re: instalation problem-- was Re: fc3 download

[Janina Sajka]

Gregory is correct. There are systems which boot disk one, and others
which cannot boot from disk one. The solution is to create a disk
expressly for the purpose of booting. To create this boot disk, use the
iso image under images/boot.iso on the first disk.

Second point: John, please run an md5sum check on the images at jamsite. 

md5sum -c MD5SUM


Gregory Nowak writes:
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> I seem to recall that there were posts some time back on the list
> indicating that disc1 of fc3 didn't boot on some machines, and did
> boot on others. So, it maybe that there's nothing wrong with John's
> images, and your machine may be one of those that won't boot the first
> disc. Perhaps someone using fc3 who posted on this earlier, or knows
> something about the problem will clarify this.
> 
> Greg
> 
> 
> On Sat, Feb 26, 2005 at 09:15:07PM -0500, Al Puzzuoli wrote:
> > Hi john,
> > 
> > Again, thanks very much for posting these and allowing those of us on the 
> > list access to them.  At this point though, I think I'm going to download 
> > the regular FC3 isos and do a BRLTTY install.  I'll worry about speakup 
> > after the fact.  At this point, I think this will be the quickest solution.
> > 
> > If you get a chance though, you might want to check your disk 1 image, as 
> > there seems to be a problem in that it isn't bootable for some reason.  As 
> > I said, I downloaded several images from your site and several from the 
> > main ftp site.  However, the sum of disk1 didn't match the one on the main 
> > ftp so I'm assuming I got that one from you.
> > The sum of the one i have that isn't booting is:
> > d016692cfde7456c6ca021b879833903
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks again,
> > 
> > --Al
> > 
> 
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Chair, Accessibility Workgroup		Free Standards Group (FSG)
janina@freestandards.org		http://a11y.org

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RE: instalation problem-- was Re: fc3 download

[Sina Bahram]

Indeed, if you can hold out until Monday, my emails will be answered then
...

Take care,
Sina 

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 10:24 AM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: instalation problem-- was Re: fc3 download

Oh, we have progress. Indeed we do.

We just don't have a conclusion, and therefore no mirror on line yet.

Al Puzzuoli writes:
> Hi Janina,
> 
> Sigh.  I take it no  progress  has been made on the mirror yet right?  
> I was planning on getting this done this weekend but at this point, 
> the download speeds being what they are, I'm not sure if that's 
> possible any longer.
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 6:04 PM
> Subject: Re: instalation problem-- was Re: fc3 download
> 
> 
> >Unfortunately, this problem you've stumbled into is all too common, 
> >especially for people installing for the first time.
> >
> >If you already have Linux, you can run what's called an md5sum check 
> >on the downloaded image files, and also on your burned disks. This is 
> >the only sure way to tell you haven't mixed versions--and it's 
> >extremely important not to mix versions as you've now discovered.
> >
> >If you can't run md5sum, for example because you only have Windows 
> >now, you can certainly look at the iso file byte size and date 
> >stamps. That should indicate whether or not you've mixed versions.
> >
> >I'm very sorry, but you'll need to get a complete set in order to 
> >install successfully.
> >
> >Al Puzzuoli writes:
> >>Hi all,
> >>i'm having a problem and I'm not sure whether I'm hosed or if 
> >>there's a way to continue without redownloading everything.
> >>
> >>After downloading the majority of FC3 from the site John has so 
> >>kindly made available, I thought I was ready to start my install.  
> >>However, before I knew about John's site, I downloaded some of the 
> >>isos from linux-speakup, and I don't remember now which isos I got 
> >>from which site. At the time, I assumed they were the same version.
> >>
> >>At any rate, after I burned my disks, the first problem I noticed 
> >>was that for some reason, my disk 1 wasn't bootable.  I then burned 
> >>the boot.iso image from that disk, which booted fine.  I thought I 
> >>was off and running, the install asked me all of its questions and 
> >>began chugging along on disk 1.  However, it then asked for disk 2.  
> >>I put in what should have been disk
> >>2 and was told "wrong cd-rom".
> >>
> >>So, now what?  I don't know if the isos on John's site are a 
> >>different version, or if one of the disk 2 isos is really not disk 
> >>2, or if I got a bad download of something... grumble!
> >>
> >>Is there a way to identify the disks and/or versions by looking at 
> >>the directories?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Any thoughts/suggestions would be appreciated.
> >>
> >>
> >>_______________________________________________
> >>Speakup mailing list
> >>Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> >>http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> >--
> >
> >Janina Sajka Phone: +1.202.494.7040
> >Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC 
> >http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com
> >
> >Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) 
> >janina@freestandards.org http://a11y.org
> >
> >If Linux can't solve your computing problem, you need a different
problem.
> >
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >Speakup mailing list
> >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> 
> 
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Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC	http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com

Chair, Accessibility Workgroup		Free Standards Group (FSG)
janina@freestandards.org		http://a11y.org

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RE: instalation problem-- was Re: fc3 download

[Sina Bahram]

Hi Janina,

I'll need to track down where I got it exactly: I've basically done
everything I could do get all the linux tools on windows, but I'm not
terribly fond of cygwin.

It does say that it's from gnu.org, but I'm not sure how much that helps.

Take care,
Sina

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 10:26 AM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: instalation problem-- was Re: fc3 download

Is there a md5sum for Windows? I should add that to the HOWTO. Last time I
looked, which I admit was quite some time ago, the only md5sum involved
installing cygwin.

Sina Bahram writes:
> You can always download an md5 sum for windows ... That would 
> immediately clear up any ocnfusion.
> 
> Take care,
> Sina
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca 
> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of Al Puzzuoli
> Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 6:33 PM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: instalation problem-- was Re: fc3 download
> 
> Interesting, The date stamps for my isos are as follows:  It would 
> seem to me like they should all be of the same version:
> 
> FC3-i386-disc1.iso 645,386 KB Undisker ISO image 2/24/2005 9:30 PM 
> FC3-i386-disc2.iso 653,208 KB Undisker ISO image 2/24/2005 10:37 AM 
> FC3-i386-disc3.iso 652,144 KB Undisker ISO image 2/25/2005 3:22 AM 
> FC3-i386-disc4.iso 405,060 KB Undisker ISO image 2/25/2005 4:57 AM
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC	http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com

Chair, Accessibility Workgroup		Free Standards Group (FSG)
janina@freestandards.org		http://a11y.org

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Re: instalation problem-- was Re: fc3 download

[Al Puzzuoli]

Hi Janina,

I found mine by googling for it.  The one I used is at:
http://www.pc-tools.net/win32/md5sums/

There are others as well.

--Al




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: instalation problem-- was Re: fc3 download


> Is there a md5sum for Windows? I should add that to the HOWTO. Last time
> I looked, which I admit was quite some time ago, the only md5sum
> involved installing cygwin.
>
> Sina Bahram writes:
>> You can always download an md5 sum for windows ... That would immediately
>> clear up any ocnfusion.
>>
>> Take care,
>> Sina
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca 
>> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
>> On Behalf Of Al Puzzuoli
>> Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 6:33 PM
>> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
>> Subject: Re: instalation problem-- was Re: fc3 download
>>
>> Interesting, The date stamps for my isos are as follows:  It would seem 
>> to
>> me like they should all be of the same version:
>>
>> FC3-i386-disc1.iso 645,386 KB Undisker ISO image 2/24/2005 9:30 PM
>> FC3-i386-disc2.iso 653,208 KB Undisker ISO image 2/24/2005 10:37 AM
>> FC3-i386-disc3.iso 652,144 KB Undisker ISO image 2/25/2005 3:22 AM
>> FC3-i386-disc4.iso 405,060 KB Undisker ISO image 2/25/2005 4:57 AM
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
> -- 
>
> Janina Sajka Phone: +1.202.494.7040
> Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com
>
> Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG)
> janina@freestandards.org http://a11y.org
>
> If Linux can't solve your computing problem, you need a different problem.
>
>
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Re: instalation problem-- was Re: fc3 download

[Janina Sajka]

Cygwin has its usefulness, but installing it just to get md5sum would be
something like using a blow torch to roast a marshmellow. So, we don't
talk about cygwin in the installation HOWTO.

Sina Bahram writes:
> Hi Janina,
> 
> I'll need to track down where I got it exactly: I've basically done
> everything I could do get all the linux tools on windows, but I'm not
> terribly fond of cygwin.
> 
> It does say that it's from gnu.org, but I'm not sure how much that helps.
> 
> Take care,
> Sina
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
> Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 10:26 AM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: instalation problem-- was Re: fc3 download
> 
> Is there a md5sum for Windows? I should add that to the HOWTO. Last time I
> looked, which I admit was quite some time ago, the only md5sum involved
> installing cygwin.
> 
> Sina Bahram writes:
> > You can always download an md5 sum for windows ... That would 
> > immediately clear up any ocnfusion.
> > 
> > Take care,
> > Sina
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca 
> > [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> > On Behalf Of Al Puzzuoli
> > Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 6:33 PM
> > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> > Subject: Re: instalation problem-- was Re: fc3 download
> > 
> > Interesting, The date stamps for my isos are as follows:  It would 
> > seem to me like they should all be of the same version:
> > 
> > FC3-i386-disc1.iso 645,386 KB Undisker ISO image 2/24/2005 9:30 PM 
> > FC3-i386-disc2.iso 653,208 KB Undisker ISO image 2/24/2005 10:37 AM 
> > FC3-i386-disc3.iso 652,144 KB Undisker ISO image 2/25/2005 3:22 AM 
> > FC3-i386-disc4.iso 405,060 KB Undisker ISO image 2/25/2005 4:57 AM
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> -- 
> 
> Janina Sajka				Phone: +1.202.494.7040
> Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC	http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com
> 
> Chair, Accessibility Workgroup		Free Standards Group (FSG)
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If Linux can't solve your computing problem, you need a different problem.

Re: instalation problem-- was Re: fc3 download

[Janina Sajka]

Cool, and thank you.

I'll add this to the next release of the HOWTO.

Thanks!

Al Puzzuoli writes:
> Hi Janina,
> 
> I found mine by googling for it.  The one I used is at:
> http://www.pc-tools.net/win32/md5sums/
> 
> There are others as well.
> 
> --Al
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 10:25 AM
> Subject: Re: instalation problem-- was Re: fc3 download
> 
> 
> >Is there a md5sum for Windows? I should add that to the HOWTO. Last time
> >I looked, which I admit was quite some time ago, the only md5sum
> >involved installing cygwin.
> >
> >Sina Bahram writes:
> >>You can always download an md5 sum for windows ... That would immediately
> >>clear up any ocnfusion.
> >>
> >>Take care,
> >>Sina
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca 
> >>[mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> >>On Behalf Of Al Puzzuoli
> >>Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 6:33 PM
> >>To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> >>Subject: Re: instalation problem-- was Re: fc3 download
> >>
> >>Interesting, The date stamps for my isos are as follows:  It would seem 
> >>to
> >>me like they should all be of the same version:
> >>
> >>FC3-i386-disc1.iso 645,386 KB Undisker ISO image 2/24/2005 9:30 PM
> >>FC3-i386-disc2.iso 653,208 KB Undisker ISO image 2/24/2005 10:37 AM
> >>FC3-i386-disc3.iso 652,144 KB Undisker ISO image 2/25/2005 3:22 AM
> >>FC3-i386-disc4.iso 405,060 KB Undisker ISO image 2/25/2005 4:57 AM
> >>
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Chair, Accessibility Workgroup		Free Standards Group (FSG)
janina@freestandards.org		http://a11y.org

If Linux can't solve your computing problem, you need a different problem.

RE: instalation problem-- was Re: fc3 download

[Sina Bahram]

That was so well said

Take care,
Sina

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 12:54 PM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: instalation problem-- was Re: fc3 download

Cygwin has its usefulness, but installing it just to get md5sum would be
something like using a blow torch to roast a marshmellow. So, we don't talk
about cygwin in the installation HOWTO.

Sina Bahram writes:
> Hi Janina,
> 
> I'll need to track down where I got it exactly: I've basically done 
> everything I could do get all the linux tools on windows, but I'm not 
> terribly fond of cygwin.
> 
> It does say that it's from gnu.org, but I'm not sure how much that helps.
> 
> Take care,
> Sina
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca 
> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of Janina Sajka
> Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 10:26 AM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: instalation problem-- was Re: fc3 download
> 
> Is there a md5sum for Windows? I should add that to the HOWTO. Last 
> time I looked, which I admit was quite some time ago, the only md5sum 
> involved installing cygwin.
> 
> Sina Bahram writes:
> > You can always download an md5 sum for windows ... That would 
> > immediately clear up any ocnfusion.
> > 
> > Take care,
> > Sina
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca 
> > [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> > On Behalf Of Al Puzzuoli
> > Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 6:33 PM
> > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> > Subject: Re: instalation problem-- was Re: fc3 download
> > 
> > Interesting, The date stamps for my isos are as follows:  It would 
> > seem to me like they should all be of the same version:
> > 
> > FC3-i386-disc1.iso 645,386 KB Undisker ISO image 2/24/2005 9:30 PM 
> > FC3-i386-disc2.iso 653,208 KB Undisker ISO image 2/24/2005 10:37 AM 
> > FC3-i386-disc3.iso 652,144 KB Undisker ISO image 2/25/2005 3:22 AM 
> > FC3-i386-disc4.iso 405,060 KB Undisker ISO image 2/25/2005 4:57 AM
> > 
> > 
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> Partner, Capital Accessibility LLC	http://www.CapitalAccessibility.Com
> 
> Chair, Accessibility Workgroup		Free Standards Group (FSG)
> janina@freestandards.org		http://a11y.org
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Chair, Accessibility Workgroup		Free Standards Group (FSG)
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