* Dectalk isa model @ Jared Stofflett ` Adam Myrow ` Charles Crawford 0 siblings, 2 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Jared Stofflett @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.' I may get an old dectalk that fits into an isa slot on a computer. Will this model work with speakup, and the person who I may get it from says something about running it to com port 2, not any others if you hook it up externally. If anyone uses these synths under linux and can tell me how well they work I'd appreciate it, as the keynote gold doesn't appear to be supported yet, and I'd like to have speakup on my desktop. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: Dectalk isa model Dectalk isa model Jared Stofflett @ ` Adam Myrow ` Jared Stofflett ` (2 more replies) ` Charles Crawford 1 sibling, 3 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Adam Myrow @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I have had pretty bad luck with the Dectalk PC2 card that I have. I can get it to work some of the time with the CVS speakup. If I have already loaded the drivers from Windows, it will come up talking. Otherwise, it fails to load the drivers on cold boot, and requires another cold boot before Windows can load the drivers again. From a cold boot, the command "dtload -v" gives the output: waitmode p=c001 s = 1000 status -9 testkernel got dec Loading kernel of 25386 bytes ( 69 relocs ) cs:ip == 0040:0010 ss:sp == 07b3:0200 card is ready dt_loadmem: addr = 00000400 size = 25386 Any attempt to load Speakup's Dectalk PC module at this point locks up the computer. Even when I can get it speaking, it causes the clock in Linux to start losing time at an alarming rate. This seems to be some sort of interrupt issue. For example, if I start playing a sound file or streaming audio, I can make the sound skip just by pressing keypad enter regardless of whether the Dectalk PC is speaking or not. I've tried changing the IO address of the Dectalk PC, but that made no difference. I posted about some of my problems, especially the clock problem, on this list, and nobody else seemed to be having them. The only problem universally recognized is that the Dectalk doesn't say words with apostrophes correctly under Speakup. I attempted to contact the developer of the Dectalk PC driver, but my email bounced. I've pretty much concluded that the Dectalk PC driver isn't ready for production use. If you can get your hands on an old Double Talk or Accent PC, you'll have better luck. On the other hand, maybe mine is an isolated case. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* RE: Dectalk isa model ` Adam Myrow @ ` Jared Stofflett ` nick G ` Jayson Smith ` Gene Collins 2 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread From: Jared Stofflett @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.' Looks like I'm going to weight and hope the keynote gold synth comes out with a driver. -----Original Message----- From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Adam Myrow Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 10:26 PM To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: Re: Dectalk isa model I have had pretty bad luck with the Dectalk PC2 card that I have. I can get it to work some of the time with the CVS speakup. If I have already loaded the drivers from Windows, it will come up talking. Otherwise, it fails to load the drivers on cold boot, and requires another cold boot before Windows can load the drivers again. From a cold boot, the command "dtload -v" gives the output: waitmode p=c001 s = 1000 status -9 testkernel got dec Loading kernel of 25386 bytes ( 69 relocs ) cs:ip == 0040:0010 ss:sp == 07b3:0200 card is ready dt_loadmem: addr = 00000400 size = 25386 Any attempt to load Speakup's Dectalk PC module at this point locks up the computer. Even when I can get it speaking, it causes the clock in Linux to start losing time at an alarming rate. This seems to be some sort of interrupt issue. For example, if I start playing a sound file or streaming audio, I can make the sound skip just by pressing keypad enter regardless of whether the Dectalk PC is speaking or not. I've tried changing the IO address of the Dectalk PC, but that made no difference. I posted about some of my problems, especially the clock problem, on this list, and nobody else seemed to be having them. The only problem universally recognized is that the Dectalk doesn't say words with apostrophes correctly under Speakup. I attempted to contact the developer of the Dectalk PC driver, but my email bounced. I've pretty much concluded that the Dectalk PC driver isn't ready for production use. If you can get your hands on an old Double Talk or Accent PC, you'll have better luck. On the other hand, maybe mine is an isolated case. _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: Dectalk isa model ` Jared Stofflett @ ` nick G 0 siblings, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: nick G @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Keynote Gold PC is supported in CVS, SA SE and VC are not. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jared Stofflett" <jared-stofflett@twmi.rr.com> To: "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'" <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 11:06 PM Subject: RE: Dectalk isa model > Looks like I'm going to weight and hope the keynote gold synth comes out > with a driver. > > -----Original Message----- > From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] > On Behalf Of Adam Myrow > Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 10:26 PM > To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. > Subject: Re: Dectalk isa model > > I have had pretty bad luck with the Dectalk PC2 card that I have. I can get > it to work some of the time with the CVS speakup. If I have already loaded > the drivers from Windows, it will come up talking. Otherwise, it fails to > load the drivers on cold boot, and requires another cold boot before Windows > can load the drivers again. From a cold boot, the command "dtload -v" gives > the output: > waitmode p=c001 s = 1000 > status -9 > testkernel got dec > Loading kernel of 25386 bytes ( 69 relocs ) > cs:ip == 0040:0010 ss:sp == 07b3:0200 > card is ready > dt_loadmem: addr = 00000400 size = 25386 > > Any attempt to load Speakup's Dectalk PC module at this point locks up the > computer. Even when I can get it speaking, it causes the clock in Linux to > start losing time at an alarming rate. This seems to be some sort of > interrupt issue. For example, if I start playing a sound file or streaming > audio, I can make the sound skip just by pressing keypad enter regardless of > whether the Dectalk PC is speaking or not. I've tried changing the IO > address of the Dectalk PC, but that made no difference. > I posted about some of my problems, especially the clock problem, on this > list, and nobody else seemed to be having them. The only problem > universally recognized is that the Dectalk doesn't say words with > apostrophes correctly under Speakup. I attempted to contact the developer > of the Dectalk PC driver, but my email bounced. I've pretty much concluded > that the Dectalk PC driver isn't ready for production use. If you can get > your hands on an old Double Talk or Accent PC, you'll have better luck. On > the other hand, maybe mine is an isolated case. > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: Dectalk isa model ` Adam Myrow ` Jared Stofflett @ ` Jayson Smith ` Gene Collins 2 siblings, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Jayson Smith @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. The Dectalk Express doesn't say words with apostrophes right either, under Speakup. It treats what's to the right as a separate word. E.G. doesn't is spoken as doesn t. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Adam Myrow" <amyrow@midsouth.rr.com> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca> Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2004 10:26 PM Subject: Re: Dectalk isa model > I have had pretty bad luck with the Dectalk PC2 card that I have. I can > get it to work some of the time with the CVS speakup. If I have already > loaded the drivers from Windows, it will come up talking. Otherwise, it > fails to load the drivers on cold boot, and requires another cold boot > before Windows can load the drivers again. From a cold boot, the command > "dtload -v" gives the output: > waitmode p=c001 s = 1000 > status -9 > testkernel got dec > Loading kernel of 25386 bytes ( 69 relocs ) > cs:ip == 0040:0010 ss:sp == 07b3:0200 > card is ready > dt_loadmem: addr = 00000400 size = 25386 > > Any attempt to load Speakup's Dectalk PC module at this point locks up the > computer. Even when I can get it speaking, it causes the clock in Linux > to start losing time at an alarming rate. This seems to be some sort of > interrupt issue. For example, if I start playing a sound file or > streaming audio, I can make the sound skip just by pressing keypad enter > regardless of whether the Dectalk PC is speaking or not. I've tried > changing the IO address of the Dectalk PC, but that made no difference. > I posted about some of my problems, especially the clock problem, on this > list, and nobody else seemed to be having them. The only problem > universally recognized is that the Dectalk doesn't say words with > apostrophes correctly under Speakup. I attempted to contact the developer > of the Dectalk PC driver, but my email bounced. I've pretty much > concluded that the Dectalk PC driver isn't ready for production use. If > you can get your hands on an old Double Talk or Accent PC, you'll have > better luck. On the other hand, maybe mine is an isolated case. > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: Dectalk isa model ` Adam Myrow ` Jared Stofflett ` Jayson Smith @ ` Gene Collins ` Adam Myrow ` Debee Norling 2 siblings, 2 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Gene Collins @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hi adam and all. You shouldn't have to load the windows stuff first. Have you tried the dec_pc.tgz file in the linux-speakup.org goodies directory? Remember that since the dectalk pc needs drivers to be loaded on to the card before it can be used, you can't get the dectalk pc to talk from boot up. This means that it would be dificult to use the dectalk pc for installing a linux distribution. You can only get it to work after the file system has been mounted and checked, so that the drivers can be loaded on the card before you load the speakup_decpc module. And yes, the dectalk pc driver must be compiled as a module. What I do is to specify "none" as the speakup default keyword when I compile the kernel. This means that the kernel boots without speech. I put a control-g in my /etc/issue file, so that I get a beep when the machine is at the login prompt. I then log in as root and run my decpc script, which loads the drivers on to the card, and then loads the speakup dectalk pc module. Finally, I have my script initialize the rate, and punctuation levels, etc. Here is my decpc script, for those who might be interested. #!/bin/bash # flush the disk buffers, just in case anything goes wrong. sync;sync;sync # make sure no other synth is in use. echo none >/proc/speakup/synth_name # wait for two seconds. sleep 2 # load the drivers on to the dec pc card. dtload sleep 2 # echo the decpc keyword to /proc/speakup/synth_name, which causes # the speakup_decpc module to be loaded. # you could use modprobe speakup_decpc instead, if Speakup is built # completely as modules. echo decpc >/proc/speakup/synth_name sleep 2 # set punctuation level to 3 echo 3 >/proc/speakup/punc_level # set reading punctuation level to 3 echo 3 >/proc/speakup/reading_punc # set pitch to 80. echo 80 >/proc/speakup/pitch # set rate to 1, most people will not want this. echo 1 >/proc/speakup/rate # last line Cut and paste the above script in to a file. Name the file whatever you like, I called mine decpc. Put the script in /usr/bin or somewhere in your path. Make it executable with chmod 755 decpc. After you've followed the instructions in the kernel configuration, you should now be able to type decpc after you log in as root, and the dectalk should come up talking. Gene ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: Dectalk isa model ` Gene Collins @ ` Adam Myrow ` Debee Norling 1 sibling, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Adam Myrow @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. On Wed, 26 May 2004, Gene Collins wrote: > Hi Adam and all. You shouldn't have to load the windows stuff first. > Have you tried the dec_pc.tgz file in the linux-speakup.org goodies > directory? Yes, that's my point. It isn't working correctly with my particular card. It always fails on a cold boot, and only works if I've previously loaded the drivers in Windows. I'm using the exact same files in both instances. Unfortunately, I won't be able to do too much more testing with this driver as I am getting a new computer which has no ISA slots, of course. I suppose I could try and keep this one around for testing, but I'm a little tight on space in my apartment. In fact, since the only synthesizers I own currently are ISA, I'll have to live with software speech with the new computer. I've already gotten Speakup to work with Flite, so it's no big deal. The web site indicates that there is a possibility of the Trippletalk USB being supported in the future. So, maybe I'll eventually get one of those. In the mean time, I'd sure like to figure out what's causing Speakup to botch words with apostrophes with the Dectalk drivers. Since this apparently happens with the Dectalk Express as well, I suspect that it's some common code somewhere. I know that if I send text directly to the synthesizer using /proc/speakup/synth_direct, the words are spoken properly. It's really weird. One question about the Dectalk PC driver. Is it by chance using something called priority IO? I'm thinking about how I can make sounds stutter and my clock lose time by pressing the keypad enter to flush speech and wondering why it only happens with that driver. I remember reading something about a priority IO instruction that should not be used on computers with processor speeds of 133 MHZ or faster. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* RE: Dectalk isa model ` Gene Collins ` Adam Myrow @ ` Debee Norling ` Gregory Nowak ` Adam Myrow 1 sibling, 2 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Debee Norling @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I am still having problems getting my Dec PC2 working. My system has only one serial port and the Dec Express I'm using actually belongs to my employer, so I can't keep it forever. I do own several Dec PC boards, but the model 1 boards don't fit in any of my PCS (I'm happy to give them away to anyone who will try to help me!) So I do have two Dec PC 2 boards, and I have tried them both in two separate machines with these same results. Here's what I've done and what happens: First, I tested that it worked OK in DOS. I made a boot disk with the drivers. DOS is no longer on that computer but my DOS boot disk booted, loaded them fine and the decPC2 talked OK. I downloaded the dec_pc.tgz file in the linux-speakup.org goodies directory. Actually, there are several copies on the Speakup site, but maybe it is just links to one copy. I unpacked it and following the Readme instructions, moved it to the /usr/local/lib directory so there's now a dec_pc directory under /usr/local/lib. I changed to that directory and examined the files. The Readme says dtload needs to be compiled as a module, but there was an executable and no source. I got the speakup 1.5 source, but found no dtload.c there either, so I figured I had to use this binary. I looked at the Readme again, and it isn't exactly in chronological order, but it looked like the next step was to type dtload -t -v which I did. Lots of status messages appear showing that the firmware files are being downloaded to the card, but there are no errors. Dtload is supposedly now in test mode, and anything I type should be echoed. I do this but it doesn't talk. Eventually, I give up and do ctrl-D which takes me back to a shell prompt. I figured that maybe this archive came with Dec PC1 firmware, so I overwrite the firmware files with those from my DOS drivers disk. The files I overwrite are cmd.exe, ltx.exe, ph.exe, dtpc.dic, kernel.sys. I try running dtload -v -t again, but this time it completely crashes the system. I restart and repeat the test. I confirm that if I use the supplied firmware files, id doesn't crash or give errors, and doesn't talk but does appear to go into test mode because ctrl-d takes me back out. However, if I use my firmware files, it just crashes. I'm doing all this as root and I'm actually typing ./dtload so I know I am loading the copy in my current directory. Next I look for Ron Gemma's site on Ultranet where we used to be able to get drivers but it's gone. Better back up my copy of my working DOS drivers! Next, I get sighted help to make sure my switches match. The US government uses these DECPc 1 and 2 boards for NOA, so they have switch settings online. Yes, my switches are set for I/O address 250. Next, I carefully read through my dec_pc.conf. Here it is, pasted from my Linux box: io=0x250 kernel.sys dtpc.dic lts.exe ph.exe cmd.exe Ok so that's all that's in the file.My DOS drivers load user.exe and usa.exe too -- I try adding them to the directory and the conf file; no go. Next, I poke around the blinux site and find another tarball of Dec PC files. This is a device driver that's supposed to create a /dev/dtpc0 device, and it does include source. I get errors when running make, errors when running make dev, and errors when trying to write to the /dev/decpc0 despite the fact that the installation process does seem to create the device. I can post more details about those errors, if needed but this message is already pretty long. Also I have no idea if this other tarball is even the right set of drivers for anything useful. It does want me to use my firmware files from my DOS disk, which I of course try to do. As a former technical writer, I'm frustrated by how abysmally documented some Linux information is. I can't wait to get skilled at this stuff so I can help by rewriting all this crummy documentation! I am out of ideas for what to try next. I will happily give away a Dec PC model 1 to anyone who can help. --Debee ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: Dectalk isa model ` Debee Norling @ ` Gregory Nowak ` Adam Myrow 1 sibling, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: norlingdeborah, Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I don't have a DEC talk PC myself, but I seem to recall that there was a post here a while back saying that you should be using speakup from CVS compiled as modules to be able to use the DEC talk PC. I could be wrong though. Greg On Mon, Jun 07, 2004 at 12:27:45PM -0700, Debee Norling wrote: - -- Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFAxMbv7s9z/XlyUyARAptrAKCy4VkHJcVli0VRmmg/zNMbOut7TACguKBB b7jSgx7XdHQDuJwKCJ0cnF8= =MWgA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* RE: Dectalk isa model ` Debee Norling ` Gregory Nowak @ ` Adam Myrow 1 sibling, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Adam Myrow @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: norlingdeborah, Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1796 bytes --] Glad to see I'm not the only one having problems with the Dectalk PC 2! Try this. Copy the files from your original Dectalk disk into place over the existing ones. In my case, I had to rename some of them. Now, boot into DOS and have it load the Dectalk drivers. From there, reboot with a control-alt-delete. Try to bring up the dtload program with the command "./dtload -v -t" and see if it crashes. If it starts talking, then you are having the same problem I was where it only works correctly if the drivers were already loaded in DOS. BTW, you must be using Speakup CVS in order to use the Dectalk PC. You must also compile the Dectalk PC driver as a module and run it after dtload has run. This means no speech early in the boot process. You can get it fairly early via an initial RAM disk if you want. The source code for dtload is in the Speakup CVS package and may be re-compiled from there, but I found this to make no difference. If you manage to get the Dectalk PC 2 working, watch your system's clock. If it starts drifting severely, then we've found a bug specific to the Dectalk PC2. Don't waste your time with the other Dectalk PC driver. It hasn't worked correctly since kernel 2.4 first came out, and apparently is no longer maintained. Besides, even if it did work, Speakup can't use it. I've never resolved the dtload problem, but again, the card works after the drivers are loaded from DOS. The clock problem continues, and in fact, flushing speech makes sound stutter, so I suspect an interrupt issue. To really display this problem, start a streaming audio file or very long wave file. While it's playing, hold down the keypad enter key. This will make it very choppy. I am unable to contact the person who wrote this driver. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: Dectalk isa model Dectalk isa model Jared Stofflett ` Adam Myrow @ ` Charles Crawford ` Debee Norling 1 sibling, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread From: Charles Crawford @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I used the dec card with speakup with no problems. On Sat, 22 May 2004, Jared Stofflett wrote: > I may get an old dectalk that fits into an isa slot on a computer. Will this > model work with speakup, and the person who I may get it from says something > about running it to com port 2, not any others if you hook it up externally. > If anyone uses these synths under linux and can tell me how well they work > I'd appreciate it, as the keynote gold doesn't appear to be supported yet, > and I'd like to have speakup on my desktop. > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > -- -- Charlie Crawford ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* RE: Dectalk isa model ` Charles Crawford @ ` Debee Norling ` Charles Crawford 0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread From: Debee Norling @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Charles, Can you tell us what you did to get Speakup working with your internal dectalk, or point me to anything in the list archives that explains this? I found a beta driver on the Speakup site for the internal Dectalk, but maybe I am not looking in the right place. --Debee ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* RE: Dectalk isa model ` Debee Norling @ ` Charles Crawford ` Chris Schulte 0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread From: Charles Crawford @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: norlingdeborah, Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I don't have the computer anymore and so I can't remember the command line argment which was the same as all other speackup inits but using the driver name. -- charlie. At 01:13 PM 05/24/2004, you wrote: >Charles, > >Can you tell us what you did to get Speakup working with your internal >dectalk, or point me to anything in the list archives that explains this? > >I found a beta driver on the Speakup site for the internal Dectalk, but >maybe I am not looking in the right place. > >--Debee > > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* RE: Dectalk isa model ` Charles Crawford @ ` Chris Schulte ` Janina Sajka 0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread From: Chris Schulte @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.', norlingdeborah Well, if there's a beta driver out there, I have an old pentium 133 that I've been dying to try with linux, so if someone wants to tell me where the beta driver is, and seeing as how I really am having trouble getting the partitioning thing down if someone wants to give me a lot of help, I'd be more then willing to try it. The system has a totally blank hard drive, so nothing would be lost or damaged on it. Chris Schulte -----Original Message----- From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Charles Crawford Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 9:07 AM To: norlingdeborah@fhda.edu; Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: RE: Dectalk isa model I don't have the computer anymore and so I can't remember the command line argment which was the same as all other speackup inits but using the driver name. -- charlie. At 01:13 PM 05/24/2004, you wrote: >Charles, > >Can you tell us what you did to get Speakup working with your internal >dectalk, or point me to anything in the list archives that explains this? > >I found a beta driver on the Speakup site for the internal Dectalk, but >maybe I am not looking in the right place. > >--Debee > > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.690 / Virus Database: 451 - Release Date: 5/22/2004 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: Dectalk isa model ` Chris Schulte @ ` Janina Sajka ` Chris Schulte 0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. How big of a hard drive? Bill Acker just installed the Speakup Modified on an old Pentium 150 Mhz laptop. Chris Schulte writes: > Well, if there's a beta driver out there, I have an old pentium 133 that > I've been dying to try with linux, so if someone wants to tell me where > the beta driver is, and seeing as how I really am having trouble getting > the partitioning thing down if someone wants to give me a lot of help, > I'd be more then willing to try it. The system has a totally blank hard > drive, so nothing would be lost or damaged on it. > Chris Schulte > > > -----Original Message----- > From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca > [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Charles Crawford > Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 9:07 AM > To: norlingdeborah@fhda.edu; Speakup is a screen review system for > Linux. > Subject: RE: Dectalk isa model > > I don't have the computer anymore and so I can't remember the command > line > argment which was the same as all other speackup inits but using the > driver > name. > > -- charlie. > At 01:13 PM 05/24/2004, you wrote: > >Charles, > > > >Can you tell us what you did to get Speakup working with your internal > >dectalk, or point me to anything in the list archives that explains > this? > > > >I found a beta driver on the Speakup site for the internal Dectalk, but > >maybe I am not looking in the right place. > > > >--Debee > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Speakup mailing list > >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.690 / Virus Database: 451 - Release Date: 5/22/2004 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* RE: Dectalk isa model ` Janina Sajka @ ` Chris Schulte 0 siblings, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Chris Schulte @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.' Well, it's a 1.2 gig hard drive, so I think it would be crowded, but not sure. As I said, I'm not understanding the installation guide that I'm reading for partitioning, and as I remember, I had a problem with that before. -----Original Message----- From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Janina Sajka Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 3:10 PM To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Subject: Re: Dectalk isa model How big of a hard drive? Bill Acker just installed the Speakup Modified on an old Pentium 150 Mhz laptop. Chris Schulte writes: > Well, if there's a beta driver out there, I have an old pentium 133 that > I've been dying to try with linux, so if someone wants to tell me where > the beta driver is, and seeing as how I really am having trouble getting > the partitioning thing down if someone wants to give me a lot of help, > I'd be more then willing to try it. The system has a totally blank hard > drive, so nothing would be lost or damaged on it. > Chris Schulte > > > -----Original Message----- > From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca > [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Charles Crawford > Sent: Tuesday, May 25, 2004 9:07 AM > To: norlingdeborah@fhda.edu; Speakup is a screen review system for > Linux. > Subject: RE: Dectalk isa model > > I don't have the computer anymore and so I can't remember the command > line > argment which was the same as all other speackup inits but using the > driver > name. > > -- charlie. > At 01:13 PM 05/24/2004, you wrote: > >Charles, > > > >Can you tell us what you did to get Speakup working with your internal > >dectalk, or point me to anything in the list archives that explains > this? > > > >I found a beta driver on the Speakup site for the internal Dectalk, but > >maybe I am not looking in the right place. > > > >--Debee > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Speakup mailing list > >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.690 / Virus Database: 451 - Release Date: 5/22/2004 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Speakup mailing list > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG) Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.690 / Virus Database: 451 - Release Date: 5/22/2004 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: Compiling My Kernel -- still having trouble
@ David Csercsics
` Dectalk ISA model Debee Norling
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From: David Csercsics @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: norlingdeborah, Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
You scribbled:
>Slackware 9.1, kernel version 2.4.22.
You cannot compile speakup with such a deprecated kernel. Not CVS
speakup anyways. Go get 2.6.6 from the kernel.org site and try that. Or
if you'd still like to use a 2.4 kernel then grab 2.4.26. Both of
those should compile fine.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread* RE: Dectalk ISA model Compiling My Kernel -- still having trouble David Csercsics @ ` Debee Norling 0 siblings, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Debee Norling @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Ok, everyone. First, lots of thank yous. I now have a 2.4.26 kernel running with CVS speakup. It supports my hardware and seems very stable. I know lots of you recommended I go immediately to 2.6xx but I am trying to change only one thing at a time and reduce complexity. But the original goal was to get this Dectalk ISA card working so I could return the Express to my employer. I have the script Gene Collins posted to the list and it looks straightforward. But what happened to dtload, the executable? I find source for dtload.c, dtload.h and dtpc_regs.h in /usr/src/linux/drivers/char/speakup, but where did the binaries go? I have lots of other copies of dtload binaries on my system because I scoured the net trying all the drivers that might work. So "locate dtload*" shows lots of stuff. But I think this is all the old stuff that just made the system crash. Also, where's the documentation that explains how dtload works? I did find the dec_pc.tgz in both the speakup directories and the goodies directory on the speakup ftp site, but that's the original driver that never worked. It had a readme, the binary for dtload, but no source and some (what appears to be) really old firmware for the older dectalk isa card. I have a DTPC2. Maybe I'm supposed to compile this dtload.c separately, put its binary somewheres together with my own firmware that the DOS drivers normally load and then execute dtload. But is this the version that supports the -v (verbose) and the -t (test parameter? I looked thru the source for dtload -- it looks like it might support these parameters and require my DOS firmware, but there are more comments on how the GPL works than on actually how to use this driver. I know the C language, a little, but never programmed under UNIX. I've looked at so many copies of dtload and so many readmes for drivers that don't work that I'm getting confused. --Debee ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Dectalk ISA model @ Debee Norling ` Gene Collins 0 siblings, 1 reply; 19+ messages in thread From: Debee Norling @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. I still haven't gotten dtload to talk to my DecPC2. Has anyone tried it with a PC2? I'm now using CVS speakup and kernel 2.4.26. Speakup is happily talking to serial synths. I've tried using the firmware for my card, also tried using the firmware that was bundled with this dec_pc.tgz that was on the speakup site. I compiled the dtload source like this: gcc -O -o dtload dtload.c the Readme says that the uppercase O flag is necessary for the I/O instructions to work. This Readme, which wasn't in the speakup documentation but was in the Dec_pc.tgz on the speakup site also shows this usage: >dtload [-v] [-t] [path] >-v is verbose (gives all kinds of loading info ) >-t is test mode. takes what you type and says it. >eof to quit the program in test mode. The -v definitely is verbose. There are no errors; every firmware module appears to load in to the card fine. It shows the address of where it is loading and also some displays of registers. However after all that, it exits with a status of -9 or -3. And the -t test mode doesn't work. It never talks. Eof does exit without crashing the first time; second time I try to use it in the current session, it crashes. And not just that process hangs, the whole system hangs. I have gotten to be real good friends with e2fsck and where copies of my superblock live .. The Readme goes on to say: >basic operation after the module is built and installed is: >dtload >echo decpc >/proc/speakup/synth What module? Was I supposed to build this dtload as a module? How? You know I'm not even sure this is the right Readme for this dtload. I need to find a package where the Readme and source for sure match. And changing the synthesizer simply crashes Speakup, no doubt because the Dectalk isn't really "there" yet. I'm eager to get this working because I want my serial port back. -- Debee ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
* Re: Dectalk ISA model Debee Norling @ ` Gene Collins 0 siblings, 0 replies; 19+ messages in thread From: Gene Collins @ UTC (permalink / raw) To: norlingdeborah, Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. Hi Debee. The dtload you should be using is in the gz file you downloaded from speakup. I don't remember whether it is in source or binary form, but probably source. You build the decpc module when you configure your kernel. Instead of answering y for this module, you answer m. Then you run make modules and as root make modules_install in order to build and install the module. You can also get help, by typing a question mark (?) while you are sitting on the decpc choice in the configuration process. To make this even easier, use make menuconfig instead of make config. The Speakup synthesizer choices are under the console configuration choice. Try using the firmware in the decpc.tar.gz file first. If that doesn't work, you can try substituting your dos firmware. Hope this helps. Gene >I still haven't gotten dtload to talk to my DecPC2. Has anyone tried it with >a PC2? > >I'm now using CVS speakup and kernel 2.4.26. Speakup is happily talking to >serial synths. > >I've tried using the firmware for my card, also tried using the firmware >that was bundled with this dec_pc.tgz that was on the speakup site. > >I compiled the dtload source like this: > gcc -O -o dtload dtload.c > >the Readme says that the uppercase O flag is necessary for the I/O >instructions to work. > >This Readme, which wasn't in the speakup documentation but was in the >Dec_pc.tgz on the speakup site also shows this usage: > >>dtload [-v] [-t] [path] >>-v is verbose (gives all kinds of loading info ) >>-t is test mode. takes what you type and says it. >>eof to quit the program in test mode. > >The -v definitely is verbose. There are no errors; every firmware module >appears to load in to the card fine. It shows the address of where it is >loading and also some displays of registers. > >However after all that, it exits with a status of -9 or -3. > >And the -t test mode doesn't work. It never talks. Eof does exit without >crashing the first time; second time I try to use it in the current session, >it crashes. And not just that process hangs, the whole system hangs. I have >gotten to be real good friends with e2fsck and where copies of my >superblock live .. > >The Readme goes on to say: > >>basic operation after the module is built and installed is: >>dtload >>echo decpc >/proc/speakup/synth > >What module? Was I supposed to build this dtload as a module? How? You know >I'm not even sure this is the right Readme for this dtload. I need to find a >package where the Readme and source for sure match. > >And changing the synthesizer simply crashes Speakup, no doubt because the >Dectalk isn't really "there" yet. > >I'm eager to get this working because I want my serial port back. > > -- Debee > > >_______________________________________________ >Speakup mailing list >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 19+ messages in thread
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