* Speakup HowTo - Your input
@ Saqib Shaikh
` David Poehlman
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From: Saqib Shaikh @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup; +Cc: jobst
Dear listers,
Jennifer Jobst and I (Saqib Shaikh) have spent the past few months working
on the SpeakUp HowTo, a document that Kirk asked Jennifer to write and she
asked me to co-author the document with her. This document has been
proof-read, and also checked by Kirk himself, and now it is your turn as
members of the intended audience (current and potential SpeakUp users):
Your comments, suggestions and criticisms are welcome, as this kind of input
can only make the document better. Over the next few days if you have a
chance to review the HowTo then please do so, and we will try our best to
include your suggestions in the final draft of the document.
Thank you for your help.
Regards, Saqib Shaikh
Email ss@saqibshaikh.com
Web site www.saqibshaikh.com
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Speakup HowTo - Your input Saqib Shaikh
@ ` David Poehlman
` Janina Sajka
` (2 subsequent siblings)
3 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: David Poehlman @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
only if the suggestions are appropriate <grin>
Thanks for the work. I'll get back after I've looked it over.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Saqib Shaikh" <ss@saqibshaikh.com>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Cc: <jobst@us.ibm.com>
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 5:20 AM
Subject: Speakup HowTo - Your input
Dear listers,
Jennifer Jobst and I (Saqib Shaikh) have spent the past few months
working
on the SpeakUp HowTo, a document that Kirk asked Jennifer to write and
she
asked me to co-author the document with her. This document has been
proof-read, and also checked by Kirk himself, and now it is your turn as
members of the intended audience (current and potential SpeakUp users):
Your comments, suggestions and criticisms are welcome, as this kind of
input
can only make the document better. Over the next few days if you have a
chance to review the HowTo then please do so, and we will try our best
to
include your suggestions in the final draft of the document.
Thank you for your help.
Regards, Saqib Shaikh
Email ss@saqibshaikh.com
Web site www.saqibshaikh.com
_______________________________________________
Speakup mailing list
Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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Speakup HowTo - Your input Saqib Shaikh
` David Poehlman
@ ` Janina Sajka
` Georgina
` Janina Sajka
` Gregory Nowak
3 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup; +Cc: jobst
Georgina:
Saqib attached a zip archive file. When uncompressed, it unpacks about
half a dozen .html files, so best to put them into a directory of their
own, imho.
Since they're zip'd, you should have no trouble accessing these files in
any OS--including good old DOS.
--
Janina Sajka, Director
Technology Research and Development
Governmental Relations Group
American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175
Chair, Accessibility SIG
Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF)
http://www.openebook.org
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` Janina Sajka
@ ` Georgina
0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Georgina @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Hi
I think you missed my point. I need to know the filename. I guess that I can
give it any name I wish with a .tar.gz extention.
Gena
>Georgina:
>
>Saqib attached a zip archive file. When uncompressed, it unpacks about
>half a dozen .html files, so best to put them into a directory of their
>own, imho.
>
>Since they're zip'd, you should have no trouble accessing these files in
>any OS--including good old DOS.
>
>
>--
>
> Janina Sajka, Director
> Technology Research and Development
> Governmental Relations Group
> American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
>
>Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175
>
>Chair, Accessibility SIG
>Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF)
>http://www.openebook.org
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>Speakup mailing list
>Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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* Re: Speakup HowTo - Your input
Speakup HowTo - Your input Saqib Shaikh
` David Poehlman
` Janina Sajka
@ ` Janina Sajka
` Gregory Nowak
3 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup; +Cc: jobst
I've taken a very cursory glance at the "installing Redhat" section. I
choose this because item because I don't have much time just now, and
installing the Speakup Modified Redhat distribution is my assignment here.
Off the top of my head I have noted several discrepencies between this
document and Bill and my HOWTO. So, I have to ask Saqib and Jennifer, did
you look at our HOWTO before writing this document? I would hope we'll not
disagree on our advice to new users as that will most certainly complicate
tech support here. Our draft HOWTO is at:
http://www.linux-speakup.org/ftp/disks/redhat/HOWTO_INSTALL.html
On the other hand, why not simply reference our document from yours? That
should fix all of this.
--
Janina Sajka, Director
Technology Research and Development
Governmental Relations Group
American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175
Chair, Accessibility SIG
Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF)
http://www.openebook.org
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* Re: Speakup HowTo - Your input
Speakup HowTo - Your input Saqib Shaikh
` (2 preceding siblings ...)
` Janina Sajka
@ ` Gregory Nowak
` Saqib Shaikh
3 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Where can one find this howto?
Greg
On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 10:20:20AM -0000, Saqib Shaikh wrote:
> Dear listers,
>
> Jennifer Jobst and I (Saqib Shaikh) have spent the past few months working
> on the SpeakUp HowTo, a document that Kirk asked Jennifer to write and she
> asked me to co-author the document with her. This document has been
> proof-read, and also checked by Kirk himself, and now it is your turn as
> members of the intended audience (current and potential SpeakUp users):
>
> Your comments, suggestions and criticisms are welcome, as this kind of input
> can only make the document better. Over the next few days if you have a
> chance to review the HowTo then please do so, and we will try our best to
> include your suggestions in the final draft of the document.
>
> Thank you for your help.
>
> Regards, Saqib Shaikh
> Email ss@saqibshaikh.com
> Web site www.saqibshaikh.com
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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` Gregory Nowak
@ ` Saqib Shaikh
0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Saqib Shaikh @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
It was attached
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gregory Nowak" <gnowak1@uic.edu>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: Speakup HowTo - Your input
> Where can one find this howto?
> Greg
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 10:20:20AM -0000, Saqib Shaikh wrote:
> > Dear listers,
> >
> > Jennifer Jobst and I (Saqib Shaikh) have spent the past few months
working
> > on the SpeakUp HowTo, a document that Kirk asked Jennifer to write and
she
> > asked me to co-author the document with her. This document has been
> > proof-read, and also checked by Kirk himself, and now it is your turn as
> > members of the intended audience (current and potential SpeakUp users):
> >
> > Your comments, suggestions and criticisms are welcome, as this kind of
input
> > can only make the document better. Over the next few days if you have a
> > chance to review the HowTo then please do so, and we will try our best
to
> > include your suggestions in the final draft of the document.
> >
> > Thank you for your help.
> >
> > Regards, Saqib Shaikh
> > Email ss@saqibshaikh.com
> > Web site www.saqibshaikh.com
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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* Re: Speakup HowTo - Your input
@ Jennifer E Jobst
` Janina Sajka
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Jennifer E Jobst @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup; +Cc: janina
Greetings,
The purpose of the new Speakup HOWTO is to bring together a number of
existing documents into a single cohesive whole, with the goal of making it
easier for users to find and access any Speakup-related documentation.
It is true that the "Speakup HOWTO" and the "How to Install the Speakup
Modified Redhat Distribution" documents differ in some ways - different
people may take different paths to achieve the same end goal, and this is
reflected in the documents. Regardless, Saqib and I believe that
contributors to the Linux community, be they developers, writers, etc, have
a responsibility to create the best possible product for the intended
users. Janina, you are absolutely correct in saying that providing
conflicting information would not serve users well. In addition, each
document seems to contain important information which the other does not,
and completeness is important in any document. As both documents are
currently in draft format, perhaps we could work together to develop a
solution that best suits the community's needs?
Sincerely,
-j
Jennifer E. Jobst
Linux Information Development
IBM Linux Technology Services
(512) 838-8298, T/L 678-8298
Janina Sajka
<janina@afb.net> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
cc: Jennifer E Jobst/Austin/IBM@IBMUS
02/01/2002 08:37 Subject: Re: Speakup HowTo - Your input
AM
I've taken a very cursory glance at the "installing Redhat" section. I
choose this because item because I don't have much time just now, and
installing the Speakup Modified Redhat distribution is my assignment here.
Off the top of my head I have noted several discrepencies between this
document and Bill and my HOWTO. So, I have to ask Saqib and Jennifer, did
you look at our HOWTO before writing this document? I would hope we'll not
disagree on our advice to new users as that will most certainly complicate
tech support here. Our draft HOWTO is at:
http://www.linux-speakup.org/ftp/disks/redhat/HOWTO_INSTALL.html
On the other hand, why not simply reference our document from yours? That
should fix all of this.
--
Janina Sajka, Director
Technology Research and
Development
Governmental Relations
Group
American Foundation for
the Blind (AFB)
Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175
Chair, Accessibility SIG
Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF)
http://www.openebook.org
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Jennifer E Jobst
@ ` Janina Sajka
0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Janina Sajka @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Jennifer E Jobst; +Cc: speakup
Jennifer:
Your suggestion is the right course. I agree wholeheartedly and look
forward to working with you to build the best possible documents.
PS: I have high regard for your other documentation in the linux
accessibility area--emacspeak, the Accessibility HOWTO ...
On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Jennifer E Jobst wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> The purpose of the new Speakup HOWTO is to bring together a number of
> existing documents into a single cohesive whole, with the goal of making it
> easier for users to find and access any Speakup-related documentation.
>
> It is true that the "Speakup HOWTO" and the "How to Install the Speakup
> Modified Redhat Distribution" documents differ in some ways - different
> people may take different paths to achieve the same end goal, and this is
> reflected in the documents. Regardless, Saqib and I believe that
> contributors to the Linux community, be they developers, writers, etc, have
> a responsibility to create the best possible product for the intended
> users. Janina, you are absolutely correct in saying that providing
> conflicting information would not serve users well. In addition, each
> document seems to contain important information which the other does not,
> and completeness is important in any document. As both documents are
> currently in draft format, perhaps we could work together to develop a
> solution that best suits the community's needs?
>
> Sincerely,
>
> -j
>
> Jennifer E. Jobst
> Linux Information Development
> IBM Linux Technology Services
> (512) 838-8298, T/L 678-8298
>
>
>
>
> Janina Sajka
> <janina@afb.net> To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> cc: Jennifer E Jobst/Austin/IBM@IBMUS
> 02/01/2002 08:37 Subject: Re: Speakup HowTo - Your input
> AM
>
>
>
>
>
> I've taken a very cursory glance at the "installing Redhat" section. I
> choose this because item because I don't have much time just now, and
> installing the Speakup Modified Redhat distribution is my assignment here.
>
> Off the top of my head I have noted several discrepencies between this
> document and Bill and my HOWTO. So, I have to ask Saqib and Jennifer, did
> you look at our HOWTO before writing this document? I would hope we'll not
> disagree on our advice to new users as that will most certainly complicate
> tech support here. Our draft HOWTO is at:
>
>
> http://www.linux-speakup.org/ftp/disks/redhat/HOWTO_INSTALL.html
>
> On the other hand, why not simply reference our document from yours? That
> should fix all of this.
>
> --
>
> Janina Sajka, Director
> Technology Research and
> Development
> Governmental Relations
> Group
> American Foundation for
> the Blind (AFB)
>
> Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175
>
> Chair, Accessibility SIG
> Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF)
> http://www.openebook.org
>
>
>
>
--
Janina Sajka, Director
Technology Research and Development
Governmental Relations Group
American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175
Chair, Accessibility SIG
Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF)
http://www.openebook.org
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