Word processing in linux

Word processing in linux

[Tyler Spivey]

I am using LInux as my primary OS, and am
very happy with Speakup.
I am using Windows and Microsoft Word at school. If I bring home
a Word file, I have to currently convert it to text, losing the formating, in
order to edit it. What other solutions are available? I can't
easilly edit tables using text, and it's a sure bet that
formating will be increasingly more important as I go through the end of high 
school and up.

Word processing in linux

[akp]

Hi Tylor,

Hmmmm, well there isn't much you can do right now.  Star Office
requires X-Windows, and the Gnome desktop is not ready for prime-time
yet.  You could do worse than to learn Emacs and LaTeX.  As for losing
the formatting, that's part of the territory.  I'd write all my stuff
in emacs, then transfer it to MSWord when I got to school.  You could
do the final formatting there.  BTW, formatting has two T's, short
vowel and word ending in ING.  Double T keeps the vowel short!  

Ann P.
 
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Re: Word processing in linux

[Zachary Kline]

I was under the impression that Gnome was ready, at least that is the 
impression I have gotten from listening to things like the review on ACB 
Radio's Main Menu in 2003.
Am I mistaken?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "akp" <akp@eznet.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 3:32 AM
Subject: Word processing in linux


> Hi Tylor,
>
> Hmmmm, well there isn't much you can do right now.  Star Office
> requires X-Windows, and the Gnome desktop is not ready for prime-time
> yet.  You could do worse than to learn Emacs and LaTeX.  As for losing
> the formatting, that's part of the territory.  I'd write all my stuff
> in emacs, then transfer it to MSWord when I got to school.  You could
> do the final formatting there.  BTW, formatting has two T's, short
> vowel and word ending in ING.  Double T keeps the vowel short!
>
> Ann P.
>
> -- 
> Ann K. Parsons
> email:  akp@eznet.net
> WEB SITE:  http://home.eznet.net/~akp
> "All that is gold does not glitter.
> Not all those who wander are lost."  JRRT
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

Re: Word processing in linux

[Gregory Nowak]

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Yes, my opinion would be that you are very much mistaken. If gnome
and gnopernicus were ready for prime time, I'd be using balsa or
gnomemail instead of mutt right now, and mosila, which is far more
feature-rich then lynx or links are.

Greg


On Wed, Nov 10, 2004 at 10:34:37AM -0800, Zachary Kline wrote:
> I was under the impression that Gnome was ready, at least that is the 
> impression I have gotten from listening to things like the review on ACB 
> Radio's Main Menu in 2003.
> Am I mistaken?
> 

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Re: Word processing in linux

[Janina Sajka]

Well, in a word, "yes," you are mistaken. However, I do expect that the
GUI on Linux will become accessible, and I expect to see great strides
in the reasonably near future. But, it will take a long time before this
environment is really robustly accessible.

Zachary Kline writes:
> I was under the impression that Gnome was ready, at least that is the 
> impression I have gotten from listening to things like the review on ACB 
> Radio's Main Menu in 2003.
> Am I mistaken?
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "akp" <akp@eznet.net>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 3:32 AM
> Subject: Word processing in linux
> 
> 
> >Hi Tylor,
> >
> >Hmmmm, well there isn't much you can do right now.  Star Office
> >requires X-Windows, and the Gnome desktop is not ready for prime-time
> >yet.  You could do worse than to learn Emacs and LaTeX.  As for losing
> >the formatting, that's part of the territory.  I'd write all my stuff
> >in emacs, then transfer it to MSWord when I got to school.  You could
> >do the final formatting there.  BTW, formatting has two T's, short
> >vowel and word ending in ING.  Double T keeps the vowel short!
> >
> >Ann P.
> >
> >-- 
> >Ann K. Parsons
> >email:  akp@eznet.net
> >WEB SITE:  http://home.eznet.net/~akp
> >"All that is gold does not glitter.
> >Not all those who wander are lost."  JRRT
> >
> >
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> >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
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> >
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				Accessibility Workgroup
				Free Standards Group (FSG)

janina@freestandards.org	Phone: +1 202.494.7040

Re: Word processing in linux

[Joseph C. Lininger]

There is a solution available, but it is not really ready for prime time. It 
doesn't support many apps, and it tends to crash a lot.
--
Joseph C. Lininger
jbahm@pcdesk.net
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Zachary Kline" <Z_kline@hotmail.com>
To: <akp@eznet.net>; "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 11:34 AM
Subject: Re: Word processing in linux


>I was under the impression that Gnome was ready, at least that is the 
>impression I have gotten from listening to things like the review on ACB 
>Radio's Main Menu in 2003.
> Am I mistaken?
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "akp" <akp@eznet.net>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 3:32 AM
> Subject: Word processing in linux
>
>
>> Hi Tylor,
>>
>> Hmmmm, well there isn't much you can do right now.  Star Office
>> requires X-Windows, and the Gnome desktop is not ready for prime-time
>> yet.  You could do worse than to learn Emacs and LaTeX.  As for losing
>> the formatting, that's part of the territory.  I'd write all my stuff
>> in emacs, then transfer it to MSWord when I got to school.  You could
>> do the final formatting there.  BTW, formatting has two T's, short
>> vowel and word ending in ING.  Double T keeps the vowel short!
>>
>> Ann P.
>>
>> -- 
>> Ann K. Parsons
>> email:  akp@eznet.net
>> WEB SITE:  http://home.eznet.net/~akp
>> "All that is gold does not glitter.
>> Not all those who wander are lost."  JRRT
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>
>
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Re: Word processing in linux

[Gregory Nowak]

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Are you talking about gnopernicus, or something else?

Greg


On Wed, Nov 10, 2004 at 06:19:06PM -0700, Joseph C. Lininger wrote:
> There is a solution available, but it is not really ready for prime time. 
> It doesn't support many apps, and it tends to crash a lot.
> --
> Joseph C. Lininger
> jbahm@pcdesk.net
> Verification: 5eab38a77ac40416e075be8f50607ff7

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Re: Word processing in linux

[Janina Sajka]

Not quite, Ann. Tyler could also use HTML which has long been able to
produce tables and other structural layout. It would be necessary to do
the HTML by hand, but that has its own significant educational reward.
And, it's an open, nonproprietary, platform agnostic document
specification--very much unlike Word. 

Somewhat more difficult to learn, but providing more layout control, is
latex, which is very well supported by Emacs.

Not only is this a good opportunity to learn how to produce good layout,
it's an opportunity to learn how to stand up for oneself and confront
authority in a constructive manner. If the school is demanding
submissions in Microsoft Word, then this kind of approach may be in
order.

n the other hand, if the requirement is to produce well reasoned and
produced content, HTML is certainly up to the task.


Ann Parsons writes:
> Hi Tylor,
> 
> Hmmmm, well there isn't much you can do right now.  Star Office
> requires X-Windows, and the Gnome desktop is not ready for prime-time
> yet.  You could do worse than to learn Emacs and LaTeX.  As for losing
> the formatting, that's part of the territory.  I'd write all my stuff
> in emacs, then transfer it to MSWord when I got to school.  You could
> do the final formatting there.  BTW, formatting has two T's, short
> vowel and word ending in ING.  Double T keeps the vowel short!  
> 
> Ann P.
>  
> -- 
> 			Ann K. Parsons  
> email:  akp@eznet.net 			
> WEB SITE:  http://home.eznet.net/~akp
> "All that is gold does not glitter.  
> Not all those who wander are lost."  JRRT
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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				Janina Sajka, Chair
				Accessibility Workgroup
				Free Standards Group (FSG)

janina@freestandards.org	Phone: +1 202.494.7040

Re: Word processing in linux

[Liz Hare]

LaTeX is well worth learning, especially if you think you'll be interested 
in studying science, math, or computer stuff later.  You really can tell it 
where to put everything.

There is a conversion utility (not free, unfortunately) that's called 
something like tex2word, that runs under Windows (and maybe Linux, by now).

Liz