escaping filenames

escaping filenames

[Igor Gueths]

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Hi all. I have some mp3s here that have -'s at the beginning of the filename for some reason. Does anyone know how I would go about escaping so the -'s get ignored? Thanks!
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Re: escaping filenames

[Gregory Nowak]

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Try putting the file names in apostrophes, which should prevent the
shell from messing with them.

Greg


On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 09:14:42PM -0400, Igor Gueths wrote:
> Hi all. I have some mp3s here that have -'s at the beginning of the filename for some reason. Does anyone know how I would go about escaping so the -'s get ignored? Thanks!
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Re: escaping filenames

[Igor Gueths]

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I had tried that before posting, and mv still interpreted the - as a command line option being passed to it.
On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 08:30:20PM -0500, Gregory Nowak wrote:
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> Try putting the file names in apostrophes, which should prevent the
> shell from messing with them.
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> Greg
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> On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 09:14:42PM -0400, Igor Gueths wrote:
> > Hi all. I have some mp3s here that have -'s at the beginning of the filename for some reason. Does anyone know how I would go about escaping so the -'s get ignored? Thanks!
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Re: escaping filenames

[Igor Gueths]

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I managed to figure it out. Turns out I had to put a ./ before escaping the filename. 
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Re: escaping filenames

[Thomas Stivers]

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On Thu, Aug 12 2004 at 09:14:42PM -0400, Igor Gueths wrote:
> Hi all. I have some mp3s here that have -'s at the beginning of the filename for some reason. Does anyone know how I would go about escaping so the -'s get ignored? Thanks!
> -- 

With most commands you can indicate that there are no more options with "--" before the filename. If that doesn't work then refer to it more specifically with ./filename.

HTH

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by definition, not smart enough to debug it." - Brian W. Kernighan

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Re: escaping filenames

[Ralph W. Reid]

A couple of things have worked for me when file names try to get
tangled up with command line options:

1.  Use a full or partial path name for the file, such as ./<filename>
or /home/mydir/subdir/filename.

2.  Use wildcard characters to get at the file, such as in
*partial_filename.mp3.

3.  Put the file name in quotes, as in "filename" or 'filename'.

HTH, and have a _great_ weekend!

On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 09:14:42PM -0400, Igor Gueths wrote:
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> Hi all. I have some mp3s here that have -'s at the beginning of the filename for some reason. Does anyone know how I would go about escaping so the -'s get ignored? Thanks!
> - -- 
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Re: escaping filenames

[Terry D. Cudney]

Hi all,

	In this thread, how do I get rid of a file that shows up in an 'ls' listings as "^K". It is a zero length file, but persistently there.

	--terry

On Fri, Aug 13, 2004 at 10:56:58AM -0700, Ralph W. Reid wrote:
> A couple of things have worked for me when file names try to get
> tangled up with command line options:
> 
> 1.  Use a full or partial path name for the file, such as ./<filename>
> or /home/mydir/subdir/filename.
> 
> 2.  Use wildcard characters to get at the file, such as in
> *partial_filename.mp3.
> 
> 3.  Put the file name in quotes, as in "filename" or 'filename'.
> 
> HTH, and have a _great_ weekend!
> 
> On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 09:14:42PM -0400, Igor Gueths wrote:
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> > Hi all. I have some mp3s here that have -'s at the beginning of the filename for some reason. Does anyone know how I would go about escaping so the -'s get ignored? Thanks!
> > - -- 
> > Failure is not an option, it comes bundled with your Microsoft product.
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Re: escaping filenames

[Chuck Hallenbeck]

One more way to handle those difficult filenames is with the pilot
utility that comes with pine. Pilot lets you navigate a directory and
perform actions on the filename or directory name currently highlighted.
So you would arrow down to the offending file, and either type 'd' to
delete it or 'r' to rename it. There are other actions you might take
too, such as 'e' to edit it or just 'enter' to view it.  You can also
'l' launch an application giving the file as an argument, or 'c' to copy
it somewhere.

Chuck


On Fri, 13 Aug 2004, Terry D. Cudney wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> 	In this thread, how do I get rid of a file that shows up in an 'ls' listings as "^K". It is a zero length file, but persistently there.
>
> 	--terry
>
> On Fri, Aug 13, 2004 at 10:56:58AM -0700, Ralph W. Reid wrote:
>> A couple of things have worked for me when file names try to get
>> tangled up with command line options:
>>
>> 1.  Use a full or partial path name for the file, such as ./<filename>
>> or /home/mydir/subdir/filename.
>>
>> 2.  Use wildcard characters to get at the file, such as in
>> *partial_filename.mp3.
>>
>> 3.  Put the file name in quotes, as in "filename" or 'filename'.
>>
>> HTH, and have a _great_ weekend!
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 12, 2004 at 09:14:42PM -0400, Igor Gueths wrote:
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>>> Hi all. I have some mp3s here that have -'s at the beginning of the filename for some reason. Does anyone know how I would go about escaping so the -'s get ignored? Thanks!
>>> - --
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Re: escaping filenames

[Thomas Stivers]

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On Fri, Aug 13 2004 at 02:18:35PM -0400, Terry D. Cudney wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> 	In this thread, how do I get rid of a file that shows up in an 'ls' listings as "^K". It is a zero length file, but persistently there.

Well that is likely a control k character and a bit funny to type. One way is to use control-v to escape the next control char, so you would do control-v control-k as the argument to an rm or mv command. Another nifty trick is to use ls and find to get crazy files by their inode number. For example:
~$ ls -i
 77871 bin
 78082 lynx_bookmarks.html
 93045 Maildir
108489 tmp
 93244 xml
~$ find ~ -inum 93244
/home/stivers_t/xml

Its kind of a cluge, but it was the only way back in the days of funky terminals that didn't do control characters. 

HTH or at least hope it was interesting.

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Re: escaping filenames

[Joseph C. Lininger]

If the program supports getopt for option processing, then using "--" before
the first argument will allow it to work. For example:

mv -- -filename.mp3 filename.mp3
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> Hi all. I have some mp3s here that have -'s at the beginning of the
filename for some reason. Does anyone know how I would go about escaping so
the -'s get ignored? Thanks!
> - -- 
> Failure is not an option, it comes bundled with your Microsoft product.
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lynx links

[Stephen Kelly]

Hi All,

When using Lynx, Is it possible to get Speakup to read
the links as I scroll through them with the up and
down arrow keys?
When I scroll through the links Speakup just reads the
bottom line over and over.
Thanks!


		
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Re: lynx links

[Luke Davis]

Do you have show-cursor set to on in your options?
On Fri, 13 Aug 2004, Stephen Kelly wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> When using Lynx, Is it possible to get Speakup to read
> the links as I scroll through them with the up and
> down arrow keys?
> When I scroll through the links Speakup just reads the
> bottom line over and over.
> Thanks!
>
>
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Re: escaping filenames

[Ralph W. Reid]

Wow!  Where did that file come from (retorical question)?  You might
try the following, taking care to keep track of directory and file
permissions if necessary--especially if system files are involved!
Try moving all of the other files and subdirectories from the
directory where the ^k file is, then removing the directory where the
^k file is with `rm -r <dirname>`, recreating the directory with
`mkdir <dirname>`, and then moving all of the wanted files and
subdirectories back in to the new empty directory.  After a few simple
attempts, I was not able to create a ^k file unless I used the
individual characters '^' and 'k' (as opposed to CTRL-K), but I was
able to create a file whose name consisted of a single space
character, and then remove it as described above.  Note that if the
file name is actually made up of the characters '^' and 'k', a simple
remove command using the characters should remove it.  HTH and have a
_great_ day.

On Fri, Aug 13, 2004 at 02:18:35PM -0400, Terry D. Cudney wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> 	In this thread, how do I get rid of a file that shows up in an 'ls' listings as "^K". It is a zero length file, but persistently there.
> 
> 	--terry
> 

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Re: escaping filenames

[Terry D. Cudney]

Hi Ralph,

	Thanks for the suggestion. That would be a lot of work, but do-able.

	The solution that Thomas suggested worked. i.e:

	mv control-v+control-k k-file

	where control-x is the control character. that is, the control-v escapes the following control character. Then it's an easy m;atter to examine/delete/whatever the k-file.

	This group is great! Thanks guys!

	--terry

On Sat, Aug 14, 2004 at 12:02:15PM -0700, Ralph W. Reid wrote:
> Wow!  Where did that file come from (retorical question)?  You might
> try the following, taking care to keep track of directory and file
> permissions if necessary--especially if system files are involved!
> Try moving all of the other files and subdirectories from the
> directory where the ^k file is, then removing the directory where the
> ^k file is with `rm -r <dirname>`, recreating the directory with
> `mkdir <dirname>`, and then moving all of the wanted files and
> subdirectories back in to the new empty directory.  After a few simple
> attempts, I was not able to create a ^k file unless I used the
> individual characters '^' and 'k' (as opposed to CTRL-K), but I was
> able to create a file whose name consisted of a single space
> character, and then remove it as described above.  Note that if the
> file name is actually made up of the characters '^' and 'k', a simple
> remove command using the characters should remove it.  HTH and have a
> _great_ day.
> 
> On Fri, Aug 13, 2004 at 02:18:35PM -0400, Terry D. Cudney wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > 	In this thread, how do I get rid of a file that shows up in an 'ls' listings as "^K". It is a zero length file, but persistently there.
> > 
> > 	--terry
> > 
> 
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> rreid@sunset.net  http://personalweb.sunset.net/~rreid
> Opinions herein are either mine or they are flame bait.
> 1 = x^0
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E-mail:	terry@wasaga.dyns.net
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Having a smoking section in a restaurant is like...
having a peeing sectionin a swimming pool.

Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html