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* Speech-friendly Lynx configuration
@  Matthew Campbell
   ` Jacob Schmude
                   ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Matthew Campbell @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

I'm working on the next version of the ZipSpeak distribution, and I
would like to include a modified Lynx configuration file that makes
Lynx more speech-friendly.  I will definitely modify it so that the
cursor is next to the currently selected link, instead of being in the
bottom-right corner of the screen.  However, there are some other
things I want some input on.

Should links be numbered?  Should form fields be numbered?

Does color matter at all?  I'm guessing it doesn't, except for people
with low vision who may be using speech as well.

Should I set the user level to advanced so that Lynx doesn't put
instructions on the last two lines of the screen?  The .lynxrc file on
the Blinux site does this, but I'm wondering if that would be a
disadvantage for people who are not only new Linux users but new Lynx
users as well.

Have I forgotten anything?

Thanks,
-- 
Matt Campbell <mattcamp@crosswinds.net>
Web site:  http://www.crosswinds.net/~mattcamp/
ICQ #:  33005941


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* Re: Speech-friendly Lynx configuration
   Speech-friendly Lynx configuration Matthew Campbell
@  ` Jacob Schmude
   ` David Poehlman
   ` New Zipspeak Distribution--Was " Dave Hunt
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Jacob Schmude @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

Hi Matt
	Here's my input.
show cursor: absolutely
numbered links: yes
numbered form fields: no
color: doesn't matter
advanced user mode: yes because those instructions will change sometimes
and thus obstruct the speech.
	Here are some things I think you forgot:
show images: ignore
verbose images: off
	These two options will prevent the .gif filename being displayed
while reading the page, and only image links will be recognized. No image
alt tags that are not links will be displayed, this can help the
readibility of the page.

	I have one more thing that could be of consideration. Compile your
own lynx, identical to slackware's version,but when typing ./configure
include:
--disable-forms-options
This will simply use the old-style option menu, which I think is easier to
use than the forms-based one.
	I know you don't like to deviate from standard zipslack, but the
disabling of the forms-based options menu would probably help other people
use it more effectively.

	That's just my $0.02 worth.


On Wed, 24 May 2000, Matthew Campbell wrote:

> I'm working on the next version of the ZipSpeak distribution, and I
> would like to include a modified Lynx configuration file that makes
> Lynx more speech-friendly.  I will definitely modify it so that the
> cursor is next to the currently selected link, instead of being in the
> bottom-right corner of the screen.  However, there are some other
> things I want some input on.
> 
> Should links be numbered?  Should form fields be numbered?
> 
> Does color matter at all?  I'm guessing it doesn't, except for people
> with low vision who may be using speech as well.
> 
> Should I set the user level to advanced so that Lynx doesn't put
> instructions on the last two lines of the screen?  The .lynxrc file on
> the Blinux site does this, but I'm wondering if that would be a
> disadvantage for people who are not only new Linux users but new Lynx
> users as well.
> 
> Have I forgotten anything?
> 
> Thanks,
> -- 
> Matt Campbell <mattcamp@crosswinds.net>
> Web site:  http://www.crosswinds.net/~mattcamp/
> ICQ #:  33005941
> 
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Jacob Schmude
mailto:jacobs@ncinter.net
ICQ: 53401220



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* Re: Speech-friendly Lynx configuration
   Speech-friendly Lynx configuration Matthew Campbell
   ` Jacob Schmude
@  ` David Poehlman
     ` Janina Sajka
   ` New Zipspeak Distribution--Was " Dave Hunt
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: David Poehlman @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

hi mat!
this is actually kind of tough.  There are some things that will suite some
and some for others.  I would suggest putting a little readme file in that
tells users what the rc is set to aand a bit about the options.  I say this
because I for one would like to know before I crawl through it what settings
have been done.  oh, you might want to set cookies to persistant.  This way,
we don't have to always accept them.  does anyone actually reject cookies?
Thanks!
-- 
Hands-On Technolog(eye)s
ftp://poehlman.clark.net
http://poehlman.clark.net
mailto:poehlman@clark.net
voice 301-949-7599
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* New Zipspeak Distribution--Was  RE: Speech-friendly Lynx configuration
   Speech-friendly Lynx configuration Matthew Campbell
   ` Jacob Schmude
   ` David Poehlman
@  ` Dave Hunt
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Dave Hunt @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup


-----Original Message-----	I'm not sure that numbering links and/or firm
fields is especially useful.  Having lynx set to show the cursor as its
default behavior would be handy, although this setting is easy enough to
change locally.  I'd like to see the default editor set up to joe or jpico.
Is it possible to have lynx set up to send email from the address you
specify rather than from <username>@localhost?  I have yet to get lynx to
send mail from the address I specify when using 'sendmail' links.  Can you
include, in the next distribution, support for ssl 2 and ssl3?

In the new distribution of Zipspeak, I'd like to see pine and pico included.
Many of our users are probably familiar with these tools from their use of
'shell accounts'.
From: speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-admin@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Matthew Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2000 8:39 PM
To: speakup@braille.uwo.ca
Subject: Speech-friendly Lynx configuration


I'm working on the next version of the ZipSpeak distribution, and I
would like to include a modified Lynx configuration file that makes
Lynx more speech-friendly.  I will definitely modify it so that the
cursor is next to the currently selected link, instead of being in the
bottom-right corner of the screen.  However, there are some other
things I want some input on.

Should links be numbered?  Should form fields be numbered?

Does color matter at all?  I'm guessing it doesn't, except for people
with low vision who may be using speech as well.

Should I set the user level to advanced so that Lynx doesn't put
instructions on the last two lines of the screen?  The .lynxrc file on
the Blinux site does this, but I'm wondering if that would be a
disadvantage for people who are not only new Linux users but new Lynx
users as well.

Have I forgotten anything?

Thanks,
--
Matt Campbell <mattcamp@crosswinds.net>
Web site:  http://www.crosswinds.net/~mattcamp/
ICQ #:  33005941

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* Re: Speech-friendly Lynx configuration
   ` David Poehlman
@    ` Janina Sajka
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Janina Sajka @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: speakup

Crawl through it. The lynx.cfg files are self-documenting. This means
that each feature is explained in text above the line that actually
configures Lynx. This is standard operating procedure in many unix
situations. Don't expect unix culture to follow windows' cultural
practices. That ain't gonna happen.

On Thu, 25 May
2000, David Poehlman wrote:

> hi mat!
> this is actually kind of tough.  There are some things that will suite some
> and some for others.  I would suggest putting a little readme file in that
> tells users what the rc is set to aand a bit about the options.  I say this
> because I for one would like to know before I crawl through it what settings
> have been done.  oh, you might want to set cookies to persistant.  This way,
> we don't have to always accept them.  does anyone actually reject cookies?
> Thanks!
> 

-- 

				Janina Sajka, Director
				Information Systems Research & Development
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

janina@afb.net




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