Re: Linux and data storage?

Re: Linux and data storage?

[Sean M McMahon]

Tar using the compression option compresses well, without specifying that 
option, it only creates an archive.

Re: Linux and data storage?

[Gregory Nowak]

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Tar is only an archiver. Using the compression switches just tells tar
to call bzip2 or gzip, and to use them in a pipe to compress the
archive. Tar does no compression on its own.

Greg


On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 06:12:10PM -0700, Sean M McMahon wrote:
> Tar using the compression option compresses well, without specifying that 
> option, it only creates an archive.
> 
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zinf

[doc]

How is this program suppose to be run.  I have tried running zinf but get
the message,
the download manager cannot run as primary Ui
the music browser cannot run as primary ui

Am I still missing something?  Is there a syntax I'm misssing in running the
program?
Doc Wright
http://wrightplaceinc.net
If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?
then where does the learning start?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 8:38 PM
Subject: Re: Linux and data storage?


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Tar is only an archiver. Using the compression switches just tells tar
to call bzip2 or gzip, and to use them in a pipe to compress the
archive. Tar does no compression on its own.

Greg


On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 06:12:10PM -0700, Sean M McMahon wrote:
> Tar using the compression option compresses well, without specifying that
> option, it only creates an archive.
>
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Re: zinf

[Janina Sajka]

n the theory that one should crawl before one walks or runs, can you
play a wav file that's local on your machine?

As to your error, I'm not sure what is meant by "primary UI.," but I'm
only an occasional zinf user, and have never used it for streams.

Who are you when you run it, i.e.:

who am i
whoami

and can that user play sound?


doc writes:
> How is this program suppose to be run.  I have tried running zinf but get
> the message,
> the download manager cannot run as primary Ui
> the music browser cannot run as primary ui
> 
> Am I still missing something?  Is there a syntax I'm misssing in running the
> program?
> Doc Wright
> http://wrightplaceinc.net
> If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?
> then where does the learning start?
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Gregory Nowak" <greg@romuald.net.eu.org>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Monday, September 27, 2004 8:38 PM
> Subject: Re: Linux and data storage?
> 
> 
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> 
> Tar is only an archiver. Using the compression switches just tells tar
> to call bzip2 or gzip, and to use them in a pipe to compress the
> archive. Tar does no compression on its own.
> 
> Greg
> 
> 
> On Mon, Sep 27, 2004 at 06:12:10PM -0700, Sean M McMahon wrote:
> > Tar using the compression option compresses well, without specifying that
> > option, it only creates an archive.
> >
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Re: battery on notebook

[Sean M McMahon]

While we're on the subject of laptops, is their a speakup keymap for 
laptops?  How do you perform the speakup commands you would use on the 
numberpad of a regular keyboard?

Re: battery on notebook

[Janina Sajka]

Sure is, and probably installed by default.

The capslock key becomes the Speakup modifier. The rest is a la pop up
keyboard, e.g. CapsLock-I is read current line and CapsLock-O is read
next line.

This isn't laptop specific. You can do it on a full 104 if you want to
save your shoulder. I'm trying to do this more and more because my
shoulder is showing signs of repetitive stress after 20 years of
computing. I've even looked around for a keyboard with a left-handed
numeric keypad because of that, but the pop up screen review is smarter.

What I have been meaning to ask Kirk and the others who work on coding
these things is how hard or easy it might be to provide a means to flip
the qwerty definitions. For example, to split bilaterally down the
qwerty between g and h so that CapsLock (or left alt or some such) plus
E becomes current line.

Sean M McMahon writes:
> While we're on the subject of laptops, is their a speakup keymap for 
> laptops?  How do you perform the speakup commands you would use on the 
> numberpad of a regular keyboard?
> 
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janina@freestandards.org	Phone: +1 202.494.7040

Laptop keymap... was: battery on notebook

[Terry D. Cudney]

Hi all,

	Yes, Janina, you are right here. It is part of the speakup patches applied when you select speakup in the configuration of your kernel. I designed the keymapping to emulate the numeric keypad layout for the most part. David Borowski integrated it into the speakup patches and Kirk included it with them in CVS speakup.

	This was done over a year ago, and David  said that he was thinking of making user-definable keymappings easy at that time, I haven't heard from him in a long time. So I don't know if this is still in his 'to-do' list or not.

	I haven't messed with it since last year so I can't explain accurately/briefly what would be needed to alter the keymappings. However, it should not be too hard to do. Essentially, what you would need to do to customize your keymap to personal preference is:

After applying the CVS patches for speakup, modify the keymap definitions in:

/usr/src/linux/drivers/char/speakup/speakupmap.map

to suit your preferences. Then compile/install the kernel as normal and Congratulations! you now have your very own keymap definition.

	I'd suggest not doing this unless you are comfortable with compiling the kernel. ... and if something breaks... well, like Kirk says, "You get to keep all the pieces"!

	Read on...

On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 01:56:04PM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote:
> Sure is, and probably installed by default.
> 
> The capslock key becomes the Speakup modifier. The rest is a la pop up
> keyboard, e.g. CapsLock-I is read current line and CapsLock-O is read
> next line.
> 
> This isn't laptop specific. You can do it on a full 104 if you want to
> save your shoulder. I'm trying to do this more and more because my
> shoulder is showing signs of repetitive stress after 20 years of
> computing. I've even looked around for a keyboard with a left-handed
> numeric keypad because of that, but the pop up screen review is smarter.
	Glad you like it Janina! I use it on all my keyboards too. But not everyone likes the same layout! :-0

> What I have been meaning to ask Kirk and the others who work on coding
> these things is how hard or easy it might be to provide a means to flip
> the qwerty definitions. For example, to split bilaterally down the
> qwerty between g and h so that CapsLock (or left alt or some such) plus
> E becomes current line.
	You can do that if you want. See above.


	HTH,

	--terry

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Phone:	(705) 422-0039
E-mail:	terry@wasaga.dyns.net

Having a smoking section in a restaurant is like...
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Re: Laptop keymap... was: battery on notebook

[Janina Sajka]

Thanks, Terry. And please forgive me for not remembering that you were
the one who did this great work. I wrote that message in a great hurry
inbetween two con calls this afternoon! <grin>

Oh, and thanks for the great job. Between your keymappings and software
speech, Speakup with a laptop on the road is just an entirely new
dimension.

Terry D. Cudney writes:
> Hi all,
> 
> 	Yes, Janina, you are right here. It is part of the speakup patches applied when you select speakup in the configuration of your kernel. I designed the keymapping to emulate the numeric keypad layout for the most part. David Borowski integrated it into the speakup patches and Kirk included it with them in CVS speakup.
> 
> 	This was done over a year ago, and David  said that he was thinking of making user-definable keymappings easy at that time, I haven't heard from him in a long time. So I don't know if this is still in his 'to-do' list or not.
> 
> 	I haven't messed with it since last year so I can't explain accurately/briefly what would be needed to alter the keymappings. However, it should not be too hard to do. Essentially, what you would need to do to customize your keymap to personal preference is:
> 
> After applying the CVS patches for speakup, modify the keymap definitions in:
> 
> /usr/src/linux/drivers/char/speakup/speakupmap.map
> 
> to suit your preferences. Then compile/install the kernel as normal and Congratulations! you now have your very own keymap definition.
> 
> 	I'd suggest not doing this unless you are comfortable with compiling the kernel. ... and if something breaks... well, like Kirk says, "You get to keep all the pieces"!
> 
> 	Read on...
> 
> On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 01:56:04PM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > Sure is, and probably installed by default.
> > 
> > The capslock key becomes the Speakup modifier. The rest is a la pop up
> > keyboard, e.g. CapsLock-I is read current line and CapsLock-O is read
> > next line.
> > 
> > This isn't laptop specific. You can do it on a full 104 if you want to
> > save your shoulder. I'm trying to do this more and more because my
> > shoulder is showing signs of repetitive stress after 20 years of
> > computing. I've even looked around for a keyboard with a left-handed
> > numeric keypad because of that, but the pop up screen review is smarter.
> 	Glad you like it Janina! I use it on all my keyboards too. But not everyone likes the same layout! :-0
> 
> > What I have been meaning to ask Kirk and the others who work on coding
> > these things is how hard or easy it might be to provide a means to flip
> > the qwerty definitions. For example, to split bilaterally down the
> > qwerty between g and h so that CapsLock (or left alt or some such) plus
> > E becomes current line.
> 	You can do that if you want. See above.
> 
> 
> 	HTH,
> 
> 	--terry
> 
> -- 
> 
> Name:	Terry D. Cudney
> Phone:	(705) 422-0039
> E-mail:	terry@wasaga.dyns.net
> 
> Having a smoking section in a restaurant is like...
> having a peeing sectionin a swimming pool.
> 
> Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
> See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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zinf

[doc]

I'm going to try 2.2.4 and see if it works any better.  If not....linux may
have to wait until I get another computer to play with.
Doc Wright
http://wrightplaceinc.net
If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?
then where does the learning start?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 5:05 PM
Subject: Re: Laptop keymap... was: battery on notebook


Thanks, Terry. And please forgive me for not remembering that you were
the one who did this great work. I wrote that message in a great hurry
inbetween two con calls this afternoon! <grin>

Oh, and thanks for the great job. Between your keymappings and software
speech, Speakup with a laptop on the road is just an entirely new
dimension.

Terry D. Cudney writes:
> Hi all,
>
> Yes, Janina, you are right here. It is part of the speakup patches applied
when you select speakup in the configuration of your kernel. I designed the
keymapping to emulate the numeric keypad layout for the most part. David
Borowski integrated it into the speakup patches and Kirk included it with
them in CVS speakup.
>
> This was done over a year ago, and David  said that he was thinking of
making user-definable keymappings easy at that time, I haven't heard from
him in a long time. So I don't know if this is still in his 'to-do' list or
not.
>
> I haven't messed with it since last year so I can't explain
accurately/briefly what would be needed to alter the keymappings. However,
it should not be too hard to do. Essentially, what you would need to do to
customize your keymap to personal preference is:
>
> After applying the CVS patches for speakup, modify the keymap definitions
in:
>
> /usr/src/linux/drivers/char/speakup/speakupmap.map
>
> to suit your preferences. Then compile/install the kernel as normal and
Congratulations! you now have your very own keymap definition.
>
> I'd suggest not doing this unless you are comfortable with compiling the
kernel. ... and if something breaks... well, like Kirk says, "You get to
keep all the pieces"!
>
> Read on...
>
> On Wed, Sep 29, 2004 at 01:56:04PM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > Sure is, and probably installed by default.
> >
> > The capslock key becomes the Speakup modifier. The rest is a la pop up
> > keyboard, e.g. CapsLock-I is read current line and CapsLock-O is read
> > next line.
> >
> > This isn't laptop specific. You can do it on a full 104 if you want to
> > save your shoulder. I'm trying to do this more and more because my
> > shoulder is showing signs of repetitive stress after 20 years of
> > computing. I've even looked around for a keyboard with a left-handed
> > numeric keypad because of that, but the pop up screen review is smarter.
> Glad you like it Janina! I use it on all my keyboards too. But not
everyone likes the same layout! :-0
>
> > What I have been meaning to ask Kirk and the others who work on coding
> > these things is how hard or easy it might be to provide a means to flip
> > the qwerty definitions. For example, to split bilaterally down the
> > qwerty between g and h so that CapsLock (or left alt or some such) plus
> > E becomes current line.
> You can do that if you want. See above.
>
>
> HTH,
>
> --terry
>
> -- 
>
> Name: Terry D. Cudney
> Phone: (705) 422-0039
> E-mail: terry@wasaga.dyns.net
>
> Having a smoking section in a restaurant is like...
> having a peeing sectionin a swimming pool.
>
> Please avoid sending me Word or PowerPoint attachments.
> See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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zinf

[doc]

Can anyone email me off line a copy of their preferences that I can use as
an example?
Doc Wright
http://wrightplaceinc.net
If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?
then where does the learning start?

zinf

[doc]

It was suggested that I try zinf to play and stream mp3.  I am getting an
error that states that I need "libid3-3.8.so.3".  Where can I find this.  I
didn't find it at zinf.org.
Doc Wright
http://wrightplaceinc.net
If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?
then where does the learning start?

zinf

[Ann Parsons]

Hi all,

You need the accompanying package for Zinf can't remember what it's
called, do a apt-cache for zinf and get all packages.

Ann P.

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Re: zinf

[Cheryl Homiak]

There's a whole huge discussion about getting zinf working somewhere in
the speakup archives if you can search there.


-- 
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"Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."

Re: zinf

[Janina Sajka]

Google is your friend on questions like this.

But, I believe I also have a version on my ftp server that you're
welcome to get. No guarantees that it's the most recent version, though.
It probably isn't:

ftp.rednote.net

Look under goodies audio.

doc writes:
> It was suggested that I try zinf to play and stream mp3.  I am getting an
> error that states that I need "libid3-3.8.so.3".  Where can I find this.  I
> didn't find it at zinf.org.
> Doc Wright
> http://wrightplaceinc.net
> If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?
> then where does the learning start?
> 
> 
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Zinf

[Janina Sajka]

I have zinf compiled and working, sort of. But, I'm not sure to go to fix the problem I am having.

On some files, not all, but some, it plays at half speed, though at the correct pitch Also, playback is choppy. 

Any advice on this much appreciated.


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Re: Zinf

[Steve Holmes]

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Never run into this before.  Do you have any unusual config options? I
know there's a good chunck of dependency hell to go through to get it
compiled but it has always worked well for me.  I'm using zinf-2.2.5
and the only glaring bug I've run into is if you attempt to seek
during the first two seconds of a file, the program will not switch to
the next track and eventualy seg faults.  Other than that... Works
fine here.  In case it matters, Using Slackware 9.1 with GCC 2.3.2 and
Of course, I compiled zinf from the 2.2.5 tarball.

HTH.

On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 04:45:42PM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote:
> I have zinf compiled and working, sort of. But, I'm not sure to go to fix the problem I am having.
> 
> On some files, not all, but some, it plays at half speed, though at the correct pitch Also, playback is choppy. 
> 
> Any advice on this much appreciated.
> 
> 
> -- 
> 	
> 				Janina Sajka, Director
> 				Technology Research and Development
> 				Governmental Relations Group
> 				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
> 
> 		Chair, Accessibility Workgroup
> 	Free Standards Group (FSG)
> 
> Email: janina@afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175
> 
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Re: Zinf

[Janina Sajka]

I installed their 2.2.4 rpm. Maybe I should try and work out a compile of 2.2.5 -- after I upgrade to Fedora Core 2.

And, I went through the config carefully and nothing jumped out at me.

My thought was that some param was incorrect--either twice too big, or twice too small, that kind of thing.

Steve Holmes writes:
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> 
> Never run into this before.  Do you have any unusual config options? I
> know there's a good chunck of dependency hell to go through to get it
> compiled but it has always worked well for me.  I'm using zinf-2.2.5
> and the only glaring bug I've run into is if you attempt to seek
> during the first two seconds of a file, the program will not switch to
> the next track and eventualy seg faults.  Other than that... Works
> fine here.  In case it matters, Using Slackware 9.1 with GCC 2.3.2 and
> Of course, I compiled zinf from the 2.2.5 tarball.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 04:45:42PM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > I have zinf compiled and working, sort of. But, I'm not sure to go to fix the problem I am having.
> > 
> > On some files, not all, but some, it plays at half speed, though at the correct pitch Also, playback is choppy. 
> > 
> > Any advice on this much appreciated.
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > 	
> > 				Janina Sajka, Director
> > 				Technology Research and Development
> > 				Governmental Relations Group
> > 				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
> > 
> > 		Chair, Accessibility Workgroup
> > 	Free Standards Group (FSG)
> > 
> > Email: janina@afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175
> > 
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> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > 
> > 
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				Governmental Relations Group
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

		Chair, Accessibility Workgroup
	Free Standards Group (FSG)

Email: janina@afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175

Re: Zinf

[nick G]

Speaking of Feodra 2, how long are you thinking befor a Speakup motified
one?
Thanks,
Nick
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: Zinf


> I installed their 2.2.4 rpm. Maybe I should try and work out a compile of
2.2.5 -- after I upgrade to Fedora Core 2.
>
> And, I went through the config carefully and nothing jumped out at me.
>
> My thought was that some param was incorrect--either twice too big, or
twice too small, that kind of thing.
>
> Steve Holmes writes:
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > Never run into this before.  Do you have any unusual config options? I
> > know there's a good chunck of dependency hell to go through to get it
> > compiled but it has always worked well for me.  I'm using zinf-2.2.5
> > and the only glaring bug I've run into is if you attempt to seek
> > during the first two seconds of a file, the program will not switch to
> > the next track and eventualy seg faults.  Other than that... Works
> > fine here.  In case it matters, Using Slackware 9.1 with GCC 2.3.2 and
> > Of course, I compiled zinf from the 2.2.5 tarball.
> >
> > HTH.
> >
> > On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 04:45:42PM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > > I have zinf compiled and working, sort of. But, I'm not sure to go to
fix the problem I am having.
> > >
> > > On some files, not all, but some, it plays at half speed, though at
the correct pitch Also, playback is choppy.
> > >
> > > Any advice on this much appreciated.
> > >
> > >
> > > -- 
> > >
> > > Janina Sajka, Director
> > > Technology Research and Development
> > > Governmental Relations Group
> > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
> > >
> > > Chair, Accessibility Workgroup
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> > >
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> > >
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>
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Re: Zinf

[Janina Sajka]

Hard to say, and Bill might have the better guess.

I can tell you that I successfully built a 2.6.5 kernel using the source code in the Fedora Core 2 Test 3 release and the Speakup CVS code. It compiled without a hitch and Speakup works just fine on that kernel. So, maybe there's hope for a quick turnaround.

But we won't know until we know. All I can really say is that we do care to get it out as quickly as possible.

nick G writes:
> Speaking of Feodra 2, how long are you thinking befor a Speakup motified
> one?
> Thanks,
> Nick
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Monday, May 17, 2004 5:57 PM
> Subject: Re: Zinf
> 
> 
> > I installed their 2.2.4 rpm. Maybe I should try and work out a compile of
> 2.2.5 -- after I upgrade to Fedora Core 2.
> >
> > And, I went through the config carefully and nothing jumped out at me.
> >
> > My thought was that some param was incorrect--either twice too big, or
> twice too small, that kind of thing.
> >
> > Steve Holmes writes:
> > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > > Hash: SHA1
> > >
> > > Never run into this before.  Do you have any unusual config options? I
> > > know there's a good chunck of dependency hell to go through to get it
> > > compiled but it has always worked well for me.  I'm using zinf-2.2.5
> > > and the only glaring bug I've run into is if you attempt to seek
> > > during the first two seconds of a file, the program will not switch to
> > > the next track and eventualy seg faults.  Other than that... Works
> > > fine here.  In case it matters, Using Slackware 9.1 with GCC 2.3.2 and
> > > Of course, I compiled zinf from the 2.2.5 tarball.
> > >
> > > HTH.
> > >
> > > On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 04:45:42PM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > > > I have zinf compiled and working, sort of. But, I'm not sure to go to
> fix the problem I am having.
> > > >
> > > > On some files, not all, but some, it plays at half speed, though at
> the correct pitch Also, playback is choppy.
> > > >
> > > > Any advice on this much appreciated.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -- 
> > > >
> > > > Janina Sajka, Director
> > > > Technology Research and Development
> > > > Governmental Relations Group
> > > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
> > > >
> > > > Chair, Accessibility Workgroup
> > > > Free Standards Group (FSG)
> > > >
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> > Technology Research and Development
> > Governmental Relations Group
> > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
> >
> > Chair, Accessibility Workgroup
> > Free Standards Group (FSG)
> >
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				Technology Research and Development
				Governmental Relations Group
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

		Chair, Accessibility Workgroup
	Free Standards Group (FSG)

Email: janina@afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175

Re: Zinf

[Steve Holmes]

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Well, one other thing I did before rolling along, I deleted the .zinf
directory and its contents and let the new version create its own
stuff.  Not sure if that would make a difference or not.

On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 05:57:28PM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote:
> I installed their 2.2.4 rpm. Maybe I should try and work out a compile of 2.2.5 -- after I upgrade to Fedora Core 2.
> 
> And, I went through the config carefully and nothing jumped out at me.
> 
> My thought was that some param was incorrect--either twice too big, or twice too small, that kind of thing.
> 
> Steve Holmes writes:
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > Hash: SHA1
> > 
> > Never run into this before.  Do you have any unusual config options? I
> > know there's a good chunck of dependency hell to go through to get it
> > compiled but it has always worked well for me.  I'm using zinf-2.2.5
> > and the only glaring bug I've run into is if you attempt to seek
> > during the first two seconds of a file, the program will not switch to
> > the next track and eventualy seg faults.  Other than that... Works
> > fine here.  In case it matters, Using Slackware 9.1 with GCC 2.3.2 and
> > Of course, I compiled zinf from the 2.2.5 tarball.
> > 
> > HTH.
> > 
> > On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 04:45:42PM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > > I have zinf compiled and working, sort of. But, I'm not sure to go to fix the problem I am having.
> > > 
> > > On some files, not all, but some, it plays at half speed, though at the correct pitch Also, playback is choppy. 
> > > 
> > > Any advice on this much appreciated.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > 	
> > > 				Janina Sajka, Director
> > > 				Technology Research and Development
> > > 				Governmental Relations Group
> > > 				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
> > > 
> > > 		Chair, Accessibility Workgroup
> > > 	Free Standards Group (FSG)
> > > 
> > > Email: janina@afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175
> > > 
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> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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> 				Technology Research and Development
> 				Governmental Relations Group
> 				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
> 
> 		Chair, Accessibility Workgroup
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> 
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Re: Zinf

[Janina Sajka]

Well, things have just gotten even screwier on this machine. Earlier today mpg321 was working just fine. Then it started complaining that it had no libao to use. So, I reinstalled the mpg321 rpm, and now it's behaving just like zinf, though the distortion isn't as bad.

I think I'm just going to live with this for a day or so. I fully intend to reinstall a clean Fedora Core 2 on this machine anyway when it comes out later this week.


Steve Holmes writes:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> Well, one other thing I did before rolling along, I deleted the .zinf
> directory and its contents and let the new version create its own
> stuff.  Not sure if that would make a difference or not.
> 
> On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 05:57:28PM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > I installed their 2.2.4 rpm. Maybe I should try and work out a compile of 2.2.5 -- after I upgrade to Fedora Core 2.
> > 
> > And, I went through the config carefully and nothing jumped out at me.
> > 
> > My thought was that some param was incorrect--either twice too big, or twice too small, that kind of thing.
> > 
> > Steve Holmes writes:
> > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > > Hash: SHA1
> > > 
> > > Never run into this before.  Do you have any unusual config options? I
> > > know there's a good chunck of dependency hell to go through to get it
> > > compiled but it has always worked well for me.  I'm using zinf-2.2.5
> > > and the only glaring bug I've run into is if you attempt to seek
> > > during the first two seconds of a file, the program will not switch to
> > > the next track and eventualy seg faults.  Other than that... Works
> > > fine here.  In case it matters, Using Slackware 9.1 with GCC 2.3.2 and
> > > Of course, I compiled zinf from the 2.2.5 tarball.
> > > 
> > > HTH.
> > > 
> > > On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 04:45:42PM -0400, Janina Sajka wrote:
> > > > I have zinf compiled and working, sort of. But, I'm not sure to go to fix the problem I am having.
> > > > 
> > > > On some files, not all, but some, it plays at half speed, though at the correct pitch Also, playback is choppy. 
> > > > 
> > > > Any advice on this much appreciated.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > -- 
> > > > 	
> > > > 				Janina Sajka, Director
> > > > 				Technology Research and Development
> > > > 				Governmental Relations Group
> > > > 				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)
> > > > 
> > > > 		Chair, Accessibility Workgroup
> > > > 	Free Standards Group (FSG)
> > > > 
> > > > Email: janina@afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175
> > > > 
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> > 				Governmental Relations Group
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> > 
> > 		Chair, Accessibility Workgroup
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> > 
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				Governmental Relations Group
				American Foundation for the Blind (AFB)

		Chair, Accessibility Workgroup
	Free Standards Group (FSG)

Email: janina@afb.net		Phone: (202) 408-8175

zinf

[showell]

I had been asking about Freeamp, but then I recalled that zinf is 
actually better or so I was told. I had tried it, but for some reason at 
the time I installed it as a Debian package and it completely trashed my 
alsa drivers. So I'm curious has anyone had this experience, is Zinf as 
good as or better than Freeamp, and does it have as nice an interface as 
Freeamp? I'm a little hessitant to install Zinf if it'll hose Also 
again. I couldn't figure out what it had done, but not interested in 
having that experience again.

tia
Scott

Re: zinf

[Alex Snow]

I havent had much success compiling zinf...I think i have it installed 
here but I don't use it. it segfaults all the time. I just use amp if 
I'm going to play mp3's on the linux box.
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 
04:18:17PM -0500, showell@lrxms.net wrote:
> I had been asking about Freeamp, but then I recalled that zinf is 
> actually better or so I was told. I had tried it, but for some reason at 
> the time I installed it as a Debian package and it completely trashed my 
> alsa drivers. So I'm curious has anyone had this experience, is Zinf as 
> good as or better than Freeamp, and does it have as nice an interface as 
> Freeamp? I'm a little hessitant to install Zinf if it'll hose Also 
> again. I couldn't figure out what it had done, but not interested in 
> having that experience again.
> 
> tia
> Scott
> 
> 
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Re: zinf

[Scott Berry]

What I am wanting to do here on this box is to be able to broadcast and
I see that Zinf can do that but I just can't nail down what the error
message is.  I have checked the plugins and according to the docs it
should have a few more plugins and I visited the www.zinf.org web site
last night with no success of finding what zinf needs.

On Sun, 14 Dec 2003,
Alex Snow wrote:

> I havent had much success compiling zinf...I think i have it installed
> here but I don't use it. it segfaults all the time. I just use amp if
> I'm going to play mp3's on the linux box.
> On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at
> 04:18:17PM -0500, showell@lrxms.net wrote:
> > I had been asking about Freeamp, but then I recalled that zinf is
> > actually better or so I was told. I had tried it, but for some reason at
> > the time I installed it as a Debian package and it completely trashed my
> > alsa drivers. So I'm curious has anyone had this experience, is Zinf as
> > good as or better than Freeamp, and does it have as nice an interface as
> > Freeamp? I'm a little hessitant to install Zinf if it'll hose Also
> > again. I couldn't figure out what it had done, but not interested in
> > having that experience again.
> >
> > tia
> > Scott
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>

Re: zinf

[Alex Snow]

I seem to remember getting a plugin-related error on compile of zinf. 
that possibly could have caused the absence of certain plugins.
On Sun, 
Dec 14, 2003 at 05:09:43PM -0700, Scott Berry wrote:
> What I am wanting to do here on this box is to be able to broadcast and
> I see that Zinf can do that but I just can't nail down what the error
> message is.  I have checked the plugins and according to the docs it
> should have a few more plugins and I visited the www.zinf.org web site
> last night with no success of finding what zinf needs.
> 
> On Sun, 14 Dec 2003,
> Alex Snow wrote:
> 
> > I havent had much success compiling zinf...I think i have it installed
> > here but I don't use it. it segfaults all the time. I just use amp if
> > I'm going to play mp3's on the linux box.
> > On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at
> > 04:18:17PM -0500, showell@lrxms.net wrote:
> > > I had been asking about Freeamp, but then I recalled that zinf is
> > > actually better or so I was told. I had tried it, but for some reason at
> > > the time I installed it as a Debian package and it completely trashed my
> > > alsa drivers. So I'm curious has anyone had this experience, is Zinf as
> > > good as or better than Freeamp, and does it have as nice an interface as
> > > Freeamp? I'm a little hessitant to install Zinf if it'll hose Also
> > > again. I couldn't figure out what it had done, but not interested in
> > > having that experience again.
> > >
> > > tia
> > > Scott
> > >
> > >
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> > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
> >
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Re: zinf

[Scott Berry]

It could have but this is a deb package so I thought that it would be
compiled correctly.

On Sun, 14 Dec 2003, Alex Snow wrote:

> I seem to remember getting a plugin-related error on compile of zinf.
> that possibly could have caused the absence of certain plugins.
> On Sun,
> Dec 14, 2003 at 05:09:43PM -0700, Scott Berry wrote:
> > What I am wanting to do here on this box is to be able to broadcast and
> > I see that Zinf can do that but I just can't nail down what the error
> > message is.  I have checked the plugins and according to the docs it
> > should have a few more plugins and I visited the www.zinf.org web site
> > last night with no success of finding what zinf needs.
> >
> > On Sun, 14 Dec 2003,
> > Alex Snow wrote:
> >
> > > I havent had much success compiling zinf...I think i have it installed
> > > here but I don't use it. it segfaults all the time. I just use amp if
> > > I'm going to play mp3's on the linux box.
> > > On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at
> > > 04:18:17PM -0500, showell@lrxms.net wrote:
> > > > I had been asking about Freeamp, but then I recalled that zinf is
> > > > actually better or so I was told. I had tried it, but for some reason at
> > > > the time I installed it as a Debian package and it completely trashed my
> > > > alsa drivers. So I'm curious has anyone had this experience, is Zinf as
> > > > good as or better than Freeamp, and does it have as nice an interface as
> > > > Freeamp? I'm a little hessitant to install Zinf if it'll hose Also
> > > > again. I couldn't figure out what it had done, but not interested in
> > > > having that experience again.
> > > >
> > > > tia
> > > > Scott
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > > > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> > >
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Re: zinf

[Erik Heil]

Well zinf is actually Freeamp, just that its been renamed due to trade name 
issues.  So to answer your question, I'd say its better than freeamp which 
I don't think is even being developed under that name, hence zinf.
  At 04:18 PM 12/14/2003, you wrote:
>I had been asking about Freeamp, but then I recalled that zinf is
>actually better or so I was told. I had tried it, but for some reason at
>the time I installed it as a Debian package and it completely trashed my
>alsa drivers. So I'm curious has anyone had this experience, is Zinf as
>good as or better than Freeamp, and does it have as nice an interface as
>Freeamp? I'm a little hessitant to install Zinf if it'll hose Also
>again. I couldn't figure out what it had done, but not interested in
>having that experience again.
>
>tia
>Scott
>
>
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Re: zinf

[Alex Snow]

I don't know why they changed the name anyways. I heard that aohell 
was bitching about how freeamp sounded remotly like winamp...can 
someone tell me when aohell somehow patented the use of the word amp?
On 
Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 04:36:01PM -0500, Erik Heil wrote:
> Well zinf is actually Freeamp, just that its been renamed due to trade name 
> issues.  So to answer your question, I'd say its better than freeamp which 
> I don't think is even being developed under that name, hence zinf.
>  At 04:18 PM 12/14/2003, you wrote:
> >I had been asking about Freeamp, but then I recalled that zinf is
> >actually better or so I was told. I had tried it, but for some reason at
> >the time I installed it as a Debian package and it completely trashed my
> >alsa drivers. So I'm curious has anyone had this experience, is Zinf as
> >good as or better than Freeamp, and does it have as nice an interface as
> >Freeamp? I'm a little hessitant to install Zinf if it'll hose Also
> >again. I couldn't figure out what it had done, but not interested in
> >having that experience again.
> >
> >tia
> >Scott
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Re: zinf

[showell]

Thanks to those who replied. I'll give it a try once more, but at least 
there are other alternatives.

Re: zinf

[Kenny Hitt]

HI. I use zinf to play local files, but use either alsaplayer, mplayer,
or ogg123 to play streams.  Zinf has more controls for moving in the
file than freeamp did, but it doesn't display the stream info like
alsaplayer and ogg123 will.

         Kenny
	 
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 04:18:17PM -0500, showell@lrxms.net wrote:
> I had been asking about Freeamp, but then I recalled that zinf is 
> actually better or so I was told. I had tried it, but for some reason at 
> the time I installed it as a Debian package and it completely trashed my 
> alsa drivers. So I'm curious has anyone had this experience, is Zinf as 
> good as or better than Freeamp, and does it have as nice an interface as 
> Freeamp? I'm a little hessitant to install Zinf if it'll hose Also 
> again. I couldn't figure out what it had done, but not interested in 
> having that experience again.
> 
> tia
> Scott
> 
> 
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Re: zinf

[Scott Berry]

When I installed ait as a Debian package I haven't seen it actually
work.  I am using the Debian emu10K module for the SoundBlaster driver
when I run it this is the error I get.
zinf
Cannot create/open a semaphore. Is SYS V IPC installed?
No UI plugin in '.:~/.zinf:/usr/lib/zinf' matched 'plugins/zinfcmd.ui' or
'plugins/zinfcmd.ui.ui.'
If this was the first time you started zinf just try again.
Zinf will quit.
scott@Bear:~$



On Sun, 14 Dec 2003
showell@lrxms.net wrote:

> I had been asking about Freeamp, but then I recalled that zinf is
> actually better or so I was told. I had tried it, but for some reason at
> the time I installed it as a Debian package and it completely trashed my
> alsa drivers. So I'm curious has anyone had this experience, is Zinf as
> good as or better than Freeamp, and does it have as nice an interface as
> Freeamp? I'm a little hessitant to install Zinf if it'll hose Also
> again. I couldn't figure out what it had done, but not interested in
> having that experience again.
>
> tia
> Scott
>
>
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Re: zinf

[showell]

Scott,

I actually got zinf to work at least by specifying the .ui file on the 
command lone, but I get no audio. This program was a pain when I first 
used it and hasn't changed at all.
I hope Zinf is worth all the bother.

Scott

Re: zinf

[Alex Snow]

there was a post on this list about zinf and no audio some months ago 
I think it was Kirk who posted it...it was something about changing a 
mixer in zinf's config file but I don't remember now...
softmixer or something needed to be turned off if it was on or on if 
it was off...don't quote me on that though.
On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 
07:15:01PM -0500, showell@lrxms.net wrote:
> Scott,
> 
> I actually got zinf to work at least by specifying the .ui file on the 
> command lone, but I get no audio. This program was a pain when I first 
> used it and hasn't changed at all.
> I hope Zinf is worth all the bother.
> 
> Scott
> 
> 
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Re: zinf

[showell]

And I get no audio either. Most curious.


On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 07:15:01PM -0500, showell@lrxms.net wrote:
> Scott,
> 
> I actually got zinf to work at least by specifying the .ui file on the 
> command lone, but I get no audio. This program was a pain when I first 
> used it and hasn't changed at all.
> I hope Zinf is worth all the bother.

Re: zinf

[Scott Berry]

How did you actually specify the command for the ui?  There
documentation really sucks.

On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 showell@lrxms.net wrote:

> And I get no audio either. Most curious.
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 14, 2003 at 07:15:01PM -0500, showell@lrxms.net wrote:
> > Scott,
> >
> > I actually got zinf to work at least by specifying the .ui file on the
> > command lone, but I get no audio. This program was a pain when I first
> > used it and hasn't changed at all.
> > I hope Zinf is worth all the bother.
>

Re: zinf

[Kirk Reiser]

Okay, let me put this thread to bed once again.  In your home
directory there is a hidden subdirectory called .zinf.  In that
directory there is a user preferences file called preferences.
Imagine That!

There are two lines which you need to modify to get zinf to play
nicely.  The first is the TextUI variable which they managed to fuck
up and leave the default an old ui name which doesn't exist anymore.
You need to change that line to say "TextUI: cmdline.ui".  Careful on
the case of these things folks.  Now, further down in the file there
is another option SoftMixer you need to change that to read
"SoftMixer: false".

Okay that's done.  Now, no more talk about the iritations of zinf, you
guys are way more iritating.

  Kirk

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Re: zinf

[Thomas Stivers]

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On 12/16/03  7:52 AM -0500, Kirk Reiser wrote:
> Okay, let me put this thread to bed once again.  In your home
> directory there is a hidden subdirectory called .zinf.  In that
> directory there is a user preferences file called preferences.
> Imagine That!
> 
> There are two lines which you need to modify to get zinf to play
> nicely.  The first is the TextUI variable which they managed to fuck
> up and leave the default an old ui name which doesn't exist anymore.
> You need to change that line to say "TextUI: cmdline.ui".  Careful on
> the case of these things folks.  Now, further down in the file there
> is another option SoftMixer you need to change that to read
> "SoftMixer: false".
> 
> Okay that's done.  Now, no more talk about the iritations of zinf, you
> guys are way more iritating.

Sorry Kirk for beating a dead horse, but there was at least in my
.zinf/preferences file, a line "PlayImmediately: false" where false
needed to be changed to true to get things working.

Also instead of cmdline.ui ncurses.ui shows more info about the file and
has the same controls. Just a couple suggestions. Now to bed with this
thread. *grin*

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zinf

[Scott Howell]

Quick question. Someone mentioned that zinf starts with a volume level of
0, if so how do you turn it up. I didn't see a means to do so. 
tnx

Re: zinf

[Deedra Waters]

you can't.:p


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On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Scott Howell wrote:

> Quick question. Someone mentioned that zinf starts with a volume level of
> 0, if so how do you turn it up. I didn't see a means to do so.
> tnx
>
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Re: zinf

[Steve Holmes]

I never had the problem with zero volume with the versions of freeamp
and this zinf 2.2.  I'm using OSS drivers right now and I'm getting
the default level to PCM chanel.  Oh yes Deedra, I tried to make
zinfcmd.ui to be the default by editing the preferences file in the
.zinf directory and the program still acted like the ui wasn't
specified; guess you're right.  When I had freeamp, this was not a
problem so they must have broken something here.

On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 09:15:32PM -0400, Deedra Waters wrote:
> you can't.:p
> 
> 
> webpage http://www.dmwaters.org
> 
> Check out wopn freenode radio!
> http://www.wopn.org
> 
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> 
> 
> On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Scott Howell wrote:
> 
> > Quick question. Someone mentioned that zinf starts with a volume level of
> > 0, if so how do you turn it up. I didn't see a means to do so.
> > tnx
> >
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