tripletalk (was 4DOS)

tripletalk (was 4DOS)

[John Heim]

I traded away my tripletalk to a guy who had a doubletalk precisely because
the tripletalk wouldn't work with newer versions of speakup.  Ever since I
first got the tripletalk, it would take a minute to initialize. The screen
would fill with the message timeout while waiting for input" once a second
for 60 seconds. And then it would start talking. But somewhere around kernel
2.6.18 it stopped working entirely.  So I posted a message on the NFBCS list
asking if anyone with a doubletalk wanted to trade.  Now I have 2
doubletalks, one for home and one for work.

The advantages of the tripletalk are really conveniences anyway. It can be
powered via a USB cable and it has an internal, rechargeable battery. It's
nice to not have to worry about the battery. And the tripletalk has a serial
cable that can be removed so if it wears out, you can just get a new one.
The serial cable on my original doubletalk has worn out twice now.

So the one thing I think RC Systems should do is make the serial cable on
the doubletalk removable. And the company that makes the tripletalk should
make their specs available so it can be made to work with speakup. I think
they're missing out on a lot of sales. I will never buy another one because
of that.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nick Stockton" <nstockton@gmail.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: 4DOS


> It does for me.
> The hard part is finding a computer with a serial port.
> If you want to spend twice as much you can get a trippletalk USB but I 
> don't
> know if it is 100% compatible with the doubletalk so not sure if it would
> work using speakup's doubletalk drivers

Re: tripletalk (was 4DOS)

[Alex Snow]

What are prices for used synths like these days, and what are good 
places to look? I currently just have the transport and an old dectalk 
external (though I haven't gotten speakup to like that yet, all I can 
get it to do is work in Terminal mode with a dec VT510 terminal), and 
it's not what you would call portable.  But another transport, or 
maybe an accent SA, would be convenient to have if I could find one at 
the right price.
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 09:04:22AM -0600, John Heim 
wrote:
> I traded away my tripletalk to a guy who had a doubletalk precisely because
> the tripletalk wouldn't work with newer versions of speakup.  Ever since I
> first got the tripletalk, it would take a minute to initialize. The screen
> would fill with the message timeout while waiting for input" once a second
> for 60 seconds. And then it would start talking. But somewhere around kernel
> 2.6.18 it stopped working entirely.  So I posted a message on the NFBCS list
> asking if anyone with a doubletalk wanted to trade.  Now I have 2
> doubletalks, one for home and one for work.
> 
> The advantages of the tripletalk are really conveniences anyway. It can be
> powered via a USB cable and it has an internal, rechargeable battery. It's
> nice to not have to worry about the battery. And the tripletalk has a serial
> cable that can be removed so if it wears out, you can just get a new one.
> The serial cable on my original doubletalk has worn out twice now.
> 
> So the one thing I think RC Systems should do is make the serial cable on
> the doubletalk removable. And the company that makes the tripletalk should
> make their specs available so it can be made to work with speakup. I think
> they're missing out on a lot of sales. I will never buy another one because
> of that.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Nick Stockton" <nstockton@gmail.com>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 10:59 PM
> Subject: Re: 4DOS
> 
> 
> > It does for me.
> > The hard part is finding a computer with a serial port.
> > If you want to spend twice as much you can get a trippletalk USB but I 
> > don't
> > know if it is 100% compatible with the doubletalk so not sure if it would
> > work using speakup's doubletalk drivers
> 
> 
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> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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lots of little 'child processes'.
	-- Kevin M. Bealer, commenting on the private life of a Linux nerd

Re: tripletalk (was 4DOS)

[Allan Shaw]

Alex,

what would you consider the right price?

At 13:22 27/02/2008, you wrote:
>What are prices for used synths like these days, and what are good
>places to look? I currently just have the transport and an old dectalk
>external (though I haven't gotten speakup to like that yet, all I can
>get it to do is work in Terminal mode with a dec VT510 terminal), and
>it's not what you would call portable.  But another transport, or
>maybe an accent SA, would be convenient to have if I could find one at
>the right price.
>On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 09:04:22AM -0600, John Heim
>wrote:
> > I traded away my tripletalk to a guy who had a doubletalk precisely because
> > the tripletalk wouldn't work with newer versions of speakup.  Ever since I
> > first got the tripletalk, it would take a minute to initialize. The screen
> > would fill with the message timeout while waiting for input" once a second
> > for 60 seconds. And then it would start talking. But somewhere 
> around kernel
> > 2.6.18 it stopped working entirely.  So I posted a message on the 
> NFBCS list
> > asking if anyone with a doubletalk wanted to trade.  Now I have 2
> > doubletalks, one for home and one for work.
> >
> > The advantages of the tripletalk are really conveniences anyway. It can be
> > powered via a USB cable and it has an internal, rechargeable battery. It's
> > nice to not have to worry about the battery. And the tripletalk 
> has a serial
> > cable that can be removed so if it wears out, you can just get a new one.
> > The serial cable on my original doubletalk has worn out twice now.
> >
> > So the one thing I think RC Systems should do is make the serial cable on
> > the doubletalk removable. And the company that makes the tripletalk should
> > make their specs available so it can be made to work with speakup. I think
> > they're missing out on a lot of sales. I will never buy another one because
> > of that.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Nick Stockton" <nstockton@gmail.com>
> > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 10:59 PM
> > Subject: Re: 4DOS
> >
> >
> > > It does for me.
> > > The hard part is finding a computer with a serial port.
> > > If you want to spend twice as much you can get a trippletalk USB but I
> > > don't
> > > know if it is 100% compatible with the doubletalk so not sure if it would
> > > work using speakup's doubletalk drivers
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>--
>So in the future, one 'client' at a time or you'll be spending CPU time with
>lots of little 'child processes'.
>         -- Kevin M. Bealer, commenting on the private life of a Linux nerd
>
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>Speakup mailing list
>Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

Re: tripletalk (was 4DOS)

[Kirk Reiser]

There was a while a long time ago when the TrippleTalk firmware had a
bad version of the Doubletalk software and the interrogate command
didn't work.  After speaking with Randy he fixed it and Access
Solutions put out an update which fixed the problem.  The serial
Trippletalk with a serial cable works just fine using the speakup_ltlk
driver. I use two of them all the time.



Kirk Reiser				The Computer Braille Facility
e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca		University of Western Ontario
phone: (519) 661-3061

Re: tripletalk (was 4DOS)

[Nick Stockton]

can it speak any faster than the doubletalk lt?
That's my only beef with the doubletalk and litetalk.
I have both but it would be nice if they could go just a little bit faster.
Also what chipset does the trippletalk use as the site doesn't give any info 
about the trippletalk hardware.
I know the doubletalk lt uses the RC8650 chipset.
Also just so you know the QTalk synth seems to work using the ltlk driver 
but it is very slow when compared to the doubletalk and litetalk.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kirk Reiser" <kirk@braille.uwo.ca>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: tripletalk (was 4DOS)


> There was a while a long time ago when the TrippleTalk firmware had a
> bad version of the Doubletalk software and the interrogate command
> didn't work.  After speaking with Randy he fixed it and Access
> Solutions put out an update which fixed the problem.  The serial
> Trippletalk with a serial cable works just fine using the speakup_ltlk
> driver. I use two of them all the time.
>
>
>
> Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility
> e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario
> phone: (519) 661-3061
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup 

Re: tripletalk (was 4DOS)

[John Heim]

The tripletalk is from RC Systems? I thought it was from another company. I 
figured the problem I was having was in the firmware because I grepped the 
kernel code for the error message and came up empty. But I did ask about it 
on this list. When I decided that it was a problem with the hardware synth, 
I figured I better get another synth because I had seen on this list that 
that the manufacturer of the tripletalk  wasn't cooperative in terms of 
getting their synth to work with speakup.  I guess that's not true.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kirk Reiser" <kirk@braille.uwo.ca>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: tripletalk (was 4DOS)


> There was a while a long time ago when the TrippleTalk firmware had a
> bad version of the Doubletalk software and the interrogate command
> didn't work.  After speaking with Randy he fixed it and Access
> Solutions put out an update which fixed the problem.  The serial
> Trippletalk with a serial cable works just fine using the speakup_ltlk
> driver. I use two of them all the time.
>
>
>
> Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility
> e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario
> phone: (519) 661-3061
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
> 

Re: tripletalk (was 4DOS)

[Nick Stockton]

The TrippleTalk is from Access Solutions the same people that make the 
DecTalk USB.
http://www.axsol.com
No idea what chipset it uses or what other kind of hardware it has that's 
why I was asking on here.
I was curious to know what made it different from the DoubleTalk hardware 
wise as I've been thinking of getting another external synth.
The funny thing is my doubletalk LT is a quarter of an inch smaller in both 
length and width and my LiteTalk is even smaller in width.
I was under the same impression as you that the TrippleTalk USB didn't work 
with speakup but I guess if Kirk uses them every day then they must be 
supported.
Either that or there is a really nice version of speakup that we don't know 
about where every synth in history from the Echo to the Sounding Board has a 
supported speakup driver *chuckle*.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Heim" <jheim@math.wisc.edu>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: tripletalk (was 4DOS)


> The tripletalk is from RC Systems? I thought it was from another company. 
> I
> figured the problem I was having was in the firmware because I grepped the
> kernel code for the error message and came up empty. But I did ask about 
> it
> on this list. When I decided that it was a problem with the hardware 
> synth,
> I figured I better get another synth because I had seen on this list that
> that the manufacturer of the tripletalk  wasn't cooperative in terms of
> getting their synth to work with speakup.  I guess that's not true.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kirk Reiser" <kirk@braille.uwo.ca>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 12:30 PM
> Subject: Re: tripletalk (was 4DOS)
>
>
>> There was a while a long time ago when the TrippleTalk firmware had a
>> bad version of the Doubletalk software and the interrogate command
>> didn't work.  After speaking with Randy he fixed it and Access
>> Solutions put out an update which fixed the problem.  The serial
>> Trippletalk with a serial cable works just fine using the speakup_ltlk
>> driver. I use two of them all the time.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility
>> e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario
>> phone: (519) 661-3061
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup 

Re: tripletalk (was 4DOS)

[Kirk Reiser]

I can't tell you what the exact hardware is because I don't remember
or maybe never knew.  It is I suspect a small pci board which can be
placed in a computer or a separate box just like the Accent's were.
It has interfacing circuitry that tie the pci bus and/or the USB uart
to a RC Systems Doubletalk chip.  I don't know what Randy is calling
that chip but it is based on the v8650 board but made into a LSI chip.
That same chip is used in the bookport, book currier and a number of
other products. The uart also services the rs-232C connector.

It is true that Access Solutions were not forth coming in the
beginning.  I suspect they thought they could make it on their own
with the Microsoft Windows community but soft synths have been gaining
a lot of prominence and so the hardware synth world is shrinking
radically.  They have become much more helpful over the years.  I just
haven't had time to write drivers to support the pci and usb portions
of the device.

As for the firmware, it is the same or almost the same as on the
Doubletalk family of synths.  How Randy missed the bug is beyond me
and for that matter him as well.  It's obviously a not very often used
feature of the firmware but one I particularly like because it allows
us to find out which version and form of the firmware is being used.
Those version/parametre strings are slightly different for the groups
Randy has sold to and supports.  For example the original Microtalk
version of the firmware has a secondary flush command '^y' which only
flushes up to the next newline/carriage return characters for software
that supported it.  That gave ASAP the ability to provide a feature
which could allow one to quickly scan through a document being read by
just tapping the shift key to immediately move on to the next line.


Kirk Reiser				The Computer Braille Facility
e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca		University of Western Ontario
phone: (519) 661-3061

Re: tripletalk (was 4DOS)

[Nick Stockton]

*smile* thanks very much Kirk for the info.
I thought I might ask you if a DoubleTalk LT gets zapped by a serial port 
and all of a sudden things like the greeting message and exception 
dictionaries are gone but the synth it's self can still speak and work do 
you think finding the latest ROM version and flashing the DoubleTalk would 
help at all?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kirk Reiser" <kirk@braille.uwo.ca>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: tripletalk (was 4DOS)


>I can't tell you what the exact hardware is because I don't remember
> or maybe never knew.  It is I suspect a small pci board which can be
> placed in a computer or a separate box just like the Accent's were.
> It has interfacing circuitry that tie the pci bus and/or the USB uart
> to a RC Systems Doubletalk chip.  I don't know what Randy is calling
> that chip but it is based on the v8650 board but made into a LSI chip.
> That same chip is used in the bookport, book currier and a number of
> other products. The uart also services the rs-232C connector.
>
> It is true that Access Solutions were not forth coming in the
> beginning.  I suspect they thought they could make it on their own
> with the Microsoft Windows community but soft synths have been gaining
> a lot of prominence and so the hardware synth world is shrinking
> radically.  They have become much more helpful over the years.  I just
> haven't had time to write drivers to support the pci and usb portions
> of the device.
>
> As for the firmware, it is the same or almost the same as on the
> Doubletalk family of synths.  How Randy missed the bug is beyond me
> and for that matter him as well.  It's obviously a not very often used
> feature of the firmware but one I particularly like because it allows
> us to find out which version and form of the firmware is being used.
> Those version/parametre strings are slightly different for the groups
> Randy has sold to and supports.  For example the original Microtalk
> version of the firmware has a secondary flush command '^y' which only
> flushes up to the next newline/carriage return characters for software
> that supported it.  That gave ASAP the ability to provide a feature
> which could allow one to quickly scan through a document being read by
> just tapping the shift key to immediately move on to the next line.
>
>
> Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility
> e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario
> phone: (519) 661-3061
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup 

Re: tripletalk (was 4DOS)

[Kirk Reiser]

I don't know Nick.  It will certainly help if the flash isn't shot
from the zap.  If it is then probably not.



Kirk Reiser				The Computer Braille Facility
e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca		University of Western Ontario
phone: (519) 661-3061

Re: tripletalk (was 4DOS)

[Gregory Nowak]

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> They have become much more helpful over the years.

Kirk, are you actually saying they've released the specs finally
without requiring a non-disclosure agreement to be signed first?

Greg


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Re: tripletalk (was 4DOS)

[Kirk Reiser]

Well, no, not exactly.  They sent us the addresses and declarations to
allow us to talk to the uart.



Kirk Reiser				The Computer Braille Facility
e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca		University of Western Ontario
phone: (519) 661-3061

Re: tripletalk (was 4DOS)

[Kerry Hoath]

we have a usb doubletalk circuit and evaluation board and we'll give the 
eval board to whoever can write a driver for it.
It uses the ftdi usb2serial bridge and the v8660 chip.
It works with Jaws except the rate command goes up to 13 not 9.

we want to use this board in a brailler Curtin Uni wants to make but we 
don't have anyone able to write usb interface logic for the thing.
I guess this could run in userspace or something.
anyone who wants to write a driver get in touch and we can arrange to 
provide the evaluation board we have built.
the synth has both usb and serial ports, it takes power off the usb. 
headphones out only to keep the size down.
Regards, Kerry.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kirk Reiser" <kirk@braille.uwo.ca>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 11:58 PM
Subject: Re: tripletalk (was 4DOS)


>I can't tell you what the exact hardware is because I don't remember
> or maybe never knew.  It is I suspect a small pci board which can be
> placed in a computer or a separate box just like the Accent's were.
> It has interfacing circuitry that tie the pci bus and/or the USB uart
> to a RC Systems Doubletalk chip.  I don't know what Randy is calling
> that chip but it is based on the v8650 board but made into a LSI chip.
> That same chip is used in the bookport, book currier and a number of
> other products. The uart also services the rs-232C connector.
>
> It is true that Access Solutions were not forth coming in the
> beginning.  I suspect they thought they could make it on their own
> with the Microsoft Windows community but soft synths have been gaining
> a lot of prominence and so the hardware synth world is shrinking
> radically.  They have become much more helpful over the years.  I just
> haven't had time to write drivers to support the pci and usb portions
> of the device.
>
> As for the firmware, it is the same or almost the same as on the
> Doubletalk family of synths.  How Randy missed the bug is beyond me
> and for that matter him as well.  It's obviously a not very often used
> feature of the firmware but one I particularly like because it allows
> us to find out which version and form of the firmware is being used.
> Those version/parametre strings are slightly different for the groups
> Randy has sold to and supports.  For example the original Microtalk
> version of the firmware has a secondary flush command '^y' which only
> flushes up to the next newline/carriage return characters for software
> that supported it.  That gave ASAP the ability to provide a feature
> which could allow one to quickly scan through a document being read by
> just tapping the shift key to immediately move on to the next line.
>
>
> Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility
> e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario
> phone: (519) 661-3061
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 

Re: tripletalk (was 4DOS)

[josh]

what is a brailler curtain?

email: jkenn337@gmail.com
skype: jkenn337
msn: kenn6498ku@hotmail.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kerry Hoath" <kerry@gotss.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: tripletalk (was 4DOS)


> we have a usb doubletalk circuit and evaluation board and we'll give the
> eval board to whoever can write a driver for it.
> It uses the ftdi usb2serial bridge and the v8660 chip.
> It works with Jaws except the rate command goes up to 13 not 9.
>
> we want to use this board in a brailler Curtin Uni wants to make but we
> don't have anyone able to write usb interface logic for the thing.
> I guess this could run in userspace or something.
> anyone who wants to write a driver get in touch and we can arrange to
> provide the evaluation board we have built.
> the synth has both usb and serial ports, it takes power off the usb.
> headphones out only to keep the size down.
> Regards, Kerry.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kirk Reiser" <kirk@braille.uwo.ca>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 11:58 PM
> Subject: Re: tripletalk (was 4DOS)
>
>
>>I can't tell you what the exact hardware is because I don't remember
>> or maybe never knew.  It is I suspect a small pci board which can be
>> placed in a computer or a separate box just like the Accent's were.
>> It has interfacing circuitry that tie the pci bus and/or the USB uart
>> to a RC Systems Doubletalk chip.  I don't know what Randy is calling
>> that chip but it is based on the v8650 board but made into a LSI chip.
>> That same chip is used in the bookport, book currier and a number of
>> other products. The uart also services the rs-232C connector.
>>
>> It is true that Access Solutions were not forth coming in the
>> beginning.  I suspect they thought they could make it on their own
>> with the Microsoft Windows community but soft synths have been gaining
>> a lot of prominence and so the hardware synth world is shrinking
>> radically.  They have become much more helpful over the years.  I just
>> haven't had time to write drivers to support the pci and usb portions
>> of the device.
>>
>> As for the firmware, it is the same or almost the same as on the
>> Doubletalk family of synths.  How Randy missed the bug is beyond me
>> and for that matter him as well.  It's obviously a not very often used
>> feature of the firmware but one I particularly like because it allows
>> us to find out which version and form of the firmware is being used.
>> Those version/parametre strings are slightly different for the groups
>> Randy has sold to and supports.  For example the original Microtalk
>> version of the firmware has a secondary flush command '^y' which only
>> flushes up to the next newline/carriage return characters for software
>> that supported it.  That gave ASAP the ability to provide a feature
>> which could allow one to quickly scan through a document being read by
>> just tapping the shift key to immediately move on to the next line.
>>
>>
>> Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility
>> e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario
>> phone: (519) 661-3061
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
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> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup 

Re: tripletalk (was 4DOS)

[Kerry Hoath]

Curtin is building an embosser that will be affordable with a speech 
interface.
It's still in prototype;
release is years away.

info on http://www.cucat.org/

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "josh" <jkenn337@gmail.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 8:22 AM
Subject: Re: tripletalk (was 4DOS)


> what is a brailler curtain?
>
> email: jkenn337@gmail.com
> skype: jkenn337
> msn: kenn6498ku@hotmail.com
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kerry Hoath" <kerry@gotss.net>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 4:29 PM
> Subject: Re: tripletalk (was 4DOS)
>
>
>> we have a usb doubletalk circuit and evaluation board and we'll give the
>> eval board to whoever can write a driver for it.
>> It uses the ftdi usb2serial bridge and the v8660 chip.
>> It works with Jaws except the rate command goes up to 13 not 9.
>>
>> we want to use this board in a brailler Curtin Uni wants to make but we
>> don't have anyone able to write usb interface logic for the thing.
>> I guess this could run in userspace or something.
>> anyone who wants to write a driver get in touch and we can arrange to
>> provide the evaluation board we have built.
>> the synth has both usb and serial ports, it takes power off the usb.
>> headphones out only to keep the size down.
>> Regards, Kerry.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Kirk Reiser" <kirk@braille.uwo.ca>
>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."
>> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 11:58 PM
>> Subject: Re: tripletalk (was 4DOS)
>>
>>
>>>I can't tell you what the exact hardware is because I don't remember
>>> or maybe never knew.  It is I suspect a small pci board which can be
>>> placed in a computer or a separate box just like the Accent's were.
>>> It has interfacing circuitry that tie the pci bus and/or the USB uart
>>> to a RC Systems Doubletalk chip.  I don't know what Randy is calling
>>> that chip but it is based on the v8650 board but made into a LSI chip.
>>> That same chip is used in the bookport, book currier and a number of
>>> other products. The uart also services the rs-232C connector.
>>>
>>> It is true that Access Solutions were not forth coming in the
>>> beginning.  I suspect they thought they could make it on their own
>>> with the Microsoft Windows community but soft synths have been gaining
>>> a lot of prominence and so the hardware synth world is shrinking
>>> radically.  They have become much more helpful over the years.  I just
>>> haven't had time to write drivers to support the pci and usb portions
>>> of the device.
>>>
>>> As for the firmware, it is the same or almost the same as on the
>>> Doubletalk family of synths.  How Randy missed the bug is beyond me
>>> and for that matter him as well.  It's obviously a not very often used
>>> feature of the firmware but one I particularly like because it allows
>>> us to find out which version and form of the firmware is being used.
>>> Those version/parametre strings are slightly different for the groups
>>> Randy has sold to and supports.  For example the original Microtalk
>>> version of the firmware has a secondary flush command '^y' which only
>>> flushes up to the next newline/carriage return characters for software
>>> that supported it.  That gave ASAP the ability to provide a feature
>>> which could allow one to quickly scan through a document being read by
>>> just tapping the shift key to immediately move on to the next line.
>>>
>>>
>>> Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility
>>> e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario
>>> phone: (519) 661-3061
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>>
>>
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Re: tripletalk (was 4DOS)

[josh]

really? that sounds cool. well I'll be around for at least 60 or so years 
yet. so if it comes out within 60 some years let me know.  I'm only 25 years 
old.


email: jkenn337@gmail.com
skype: jkenn337
msn: kenn6498ku@hotmail.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kerry Hoath" <kerry@gotss.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: tripletalk (was 4DOS)


> Curtin is building an embosser that will be affordable with a speech
> interface.
> It's still in prototype;
> release is years away.
>
> info on http://www.cucat.org/
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "josh" <jkenn337@gmail.com>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 8:22 AM
> Subject: Re: tripletalk (was 4DOS)
>
>
>> what is a brailler curtain?
>>
>> email: jkenn337@gmail.com
>> skype: jkenn337
>> msn: kenn6498ku@hotmail.com
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Kerry Hoath" <kerry@gotss.net>
>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."
>> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 4:29 PM
>> Subject: Re: tripletalk (was 4DOS)
>>
>>
>>> we have a usb doubletalk circuit and evaluation board and we'll give the
>>> eval board to whoever can write a driver for it.
>>> It uses the ftdi usb2serial bridge and the v8660 chip.
>>> It works with Jaws except the rate command goes up to 13 not 9.
>>>
>>> we want to use this board in a brailler Curtin Uni wants to make but we
>>> don't have anyone able to write usb interface logic for the thing.
>>> I guess this could run in userspace or something.
>>> anyone who wants to write a driver get in touch and we can arrange to
>>> provide the evaluation board we have built.
>>> the synth has both usb and serial ports, it takes power off the usb.
>>> headphones out only to keep the size down.
>>> Regards, Kerry.
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Kirk Reiser" <kirk@braille.uwo.ca>
>>> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."
>>> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2008 11:58 PM
>>> Subject: Re: tripletalk (was 4DOS)
>>>
>>>
>>>>I can't tell you what the exact hardware is because I don't remember
>>>> or maybe never knew.  It is I suspect a small pci board which can be
>>>> placed in a computer or a separate box just like the Accent's were.
>>>> It has interfacing circuitry that tie the pci bus and/or the USB uart
>>>> to a RC Systems Doubletalk chip.  I don't know what Randy is calling
>>>> that chip but it is based on the v8650 board but made into a LSI chip.
>>>> That same chip is used in the bookport, book currier and a number of
>>>> other products. The uart also services the rs-232C connector.
>>>>
>>>> It is true that Access Solutions were not forth coming in the
>>>> beginning.  I suspect they thought they could make it on their own
>>>> with the Microsoft Windows community but soft synths have been gaining
>>>> a lot of prominence and so the hardware synth world is shrinking
>>>> radically.  They have become much more helpful over the years.  I just
>>>> haven't had time to write drivers to support the pci and usb portions
>>>> of the device.
>>>>
>>>> As for the firmware, it is the same or almost the same as on the
>>>> Doubletalk family of synths.  How Randy missed the bug is beyond me
>>>> and for that matter him as well.  It's obviously a not very often used
>>>> feature of the firmware but one I particularly like because it allows
>>>> us to find out which version and form of the firmware is being used.
>>>> Those version/parametre strings are slightly different for the groups
>>>> Randy has sold to and supports.  For example the original Microtalk
>>>> version of the firmware has a secondary flush command '^y' which only
>>>> flushes up to the next newline/carriage return characters for software
>>>> that supported it.  That gave ASAP the ability to provide a feature
>>>> which could allow one to quickly scan through a document being read by
>>>> just tapping the shift key to immediately move on to the next line.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility
>>>> e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario
>>>> phone: (519) 661-3061
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Speakup mailing list
>>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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flash servers, Linux, and access?

[Karen Lewellen]

Hi folks,
A nonprofit with which I work is considering having on-line meetings using 
a flash server.  Some of the board are using adaptive technology and 
Linux, and I am therefore wondering if such is even a reasonable 
possibility?
One of those sett ups where you have a single person broadcasting at a time 
etc.
Ideas in general?
Thanks,
Karen