Elinks and Speakup support

Elinks and Speakup support

[Keith Hinton]

How well does Speakup work with Elinks?
Are there any special configuration options that I will need to set for displaying fof forms, etc?
wWould anyone be able to give me a walkthrough off list on how to set up Elinks, if it is a good browser or not?
Regards,
--Keith, KeithNet network Administrator.
Website:
http://www.KeithNet.DynDNS.org

Re: Elinks and Speakup support

[Michael Whapples]

Speakup works quite well with elinks, there is no special setup you need to 
do.

As I remember you mentioned previously you use gentoo (correct me if I am 
wrong), so you should have elinks available through portage. You will need 
to tell it you want javascript support (if you want that, in the modern age 
it is fairly useful), so you need to specify the correct keyword (I am not 
sure as I don't use gentoo now, but I think it is "javascript", but if you 
install ufed then you will find the option within the interface that 
provides for setting up keywords for portage).

Using with speakup, different modes may work well in different environments. 
Speakup in highlight tracking mode follows the selected link, but it speaks 
nothing when you move onto a inputbox if no default value is there, so you 
may want a different mode near forms or check things with screen review 
(like you need to to read the page).

One bit which is not so good is elinks lays out tables in the full 2D 
structure, while good if you have a table of data, not so good if the page 
has a table for layout (eg. two columns of bodies of text, or to keep a left 
navigation bar separate from the main body), so reading flow may not be 
good.

I think this covers the basics, which the normal instructions don't (so 
reading this email with the normal instructions should be fairly full), but 
if you still have any questions then I will try and answer them.

From
Michael Whapples
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Keith Hinton" <keithint38@CommSpeed.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 11:08 PM
Subject: Elinks and Speakup support


How well does Speakup work with Elinks?
Are there any special configuration options that I will need to set for 
displaying fof forms, etc?
wWould anyone be able to give me a walkthrough off list on how to set up 
Elinks, if it is a good browser or not?
Regards,
--Keith, KeithNet network Administrator.
Website:
http://www.KeithNet.DynDNS.org

Re: Elinks and Speakup support

[Erik Heil]

Hi.  This is not generally related to Gentoo, but I can telly for a fact
that if you use Debian's elinks, it is not built with bittorrent or
javascript suppport. Any of you know what is the best way to deal with
this? On a side note, I can't fiure out why it wouldn't bwe built without
javascript.  BTW, how well does elinks work with Javascript?  That is, how
does it handle such things as client-side popups and the like?  B/c many
times, JavaScript is used to generate dialog boxes and for client-side
validation of data before it gets sent to the server, amonst other things.

On Tue, 27 Mar 2007, Michael Whapples wrote:

> Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2007 18:34:29 +0100
> From: Michael Whapples <mikster4@msn.com>
> Reply-To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
>     <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux. <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Subject: Re: Elinks and Speakup support
>
> Speakup works quite well with elinks, there is no special setup you need to
> do.
>
> As I remember you mentioned previously you use gentoo (correct me if I am
> wrong), so you should have elinks available through portage. You will need
> to tell it you want javascript support (if you want that, in the modern age
> it is fairly useful), so you need to specify the correct keyword (I am not
> sure as I don't use gentoo now, but I think it is "javascript", but if you
> install ufed then you will find the option within the interface that
> provides for setting up keywords for portage).
>
> Using with speakup, different modes may work well in different environments.
> Speakup in highlight tracking mode follows the selected link, but it speaks
> nothing when you move onto a inputbox if no default value is there, so you
> may want a different mode near forms or check things with screen review
> (like you need to to read the page).
>
> One bit which is not so good is elinks lays out tables in the full 2D
> structure, while good if you have a table of data, not so good if the page
> has a table for layout (eg. two columns of bodies of text, or to keep a left
> navigation bar separate from the main body), so reading flow may not be
> good.
>
> I think this covers the basics, which the normal instructions don't (so
> reading this email with the normal instructions should be fairly full), but
> if you still have any questions then I will try and answer them.
>
> From
> Michael Whapples
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Keith Hinton" <keithint38@CommSpeed.net>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 11:08 PM
> Subject: Elinks and Speakup support
>
>
> How well does Speakup work with Elinks?
> Are there any special configuration options that I will need to set for
> displaying fof forms, etc?
> wWould anyone be able to give me a walkthrough off list on how to set up
> Elinks, if it is a good browser or not?
> Regards,
> --Keith, KeithNet network Administrator.
> Website:
> http://www.KeithNet.DynDNS.org
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

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Re: Elinks and Speakup support

[Gregory Nowak]

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On Tue, Mar 27, 2007 at 04:26:05PM -0400, Erik Heil wrote:
> Hi.  This is not generally related to Gentoo, but I can telly for a fact
> that if you use Debian's elinks, it is not built with bittorrent or
> javascript suppport. Any of you know what is the best way to deal with
> this? 

What I did was to install apt-src, import the elinks source, modify
debian/rules appropriately to include js, install the dev js packages
required, (not sure what those were anymore), and build your own
package.

Greg



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Re: Elinks and Speakup support

[Michael Whapples]

Building elinks from source isn't too much of a problem, as I remember the 
instructions at the elinks homepage is fairly complete. The main thing for 
javascript is to make sure you have spidermonkey installed (that includes 
the dev package of spidermonkey) and the configure script should detect it 
and enable javascript. If that fails, there probably is a way to tell it 
where to find spidermonkey.

The ability to choose the build options for packages in gentoo is one thing 
going for its package management system, whereas apt in debian requires 
multiple packages for the different build configurations.

Javascript support is reasonable. It can't manage all javascript, but will 
get you by for the most common stuff.

From
Michael Whapples
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Erik Heil" <eheil@sdf.lonestar.org>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 9:26 PM
Subject: Re: Elinks and Speakup support


> Hi.  This is not generally related to Gentoo, but I can telly for a fact
> that if you use Debian's elinks, it is not built with bittorrent or
> javascript suppport. Any of you know what is the best way to deal with
> this? On a side note, I can't fiure out why it wouldn't bwe built without
> javascript.  BTW, how well does elinks work with Javascript?  That is, how
> does it handle such things as client-side popups and the like?  B/c many
> times, JavaScript is used to generate dialog boxes and for client-side
> validation of data before it gets sent to the server, amonst other things.
>