Re: speakup speakfreely reflecter

Re: speakup speakfreely reflecter

[JAMES DOSMAN]

well thanks it is nice to see that not 2 mins after i sent the msg i get a reply you  guys are the best keep up the good work!
james

Re: speakup speakfreely reflecter

[Kirk Reiser]

Well, unfortunately, we can hear you but it appears that you don't
have your firewall set-up correctly.  Forward ports 2074-2076 and
4074-4076 through to the machine you want on the reflector.  Also you
need to turn your mike input up we can just barely hear you.

  Kirk

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RE: speakup speakfreely reflecter

[Jim Grimsby]

Hi, I was wondering would any one be interested in a irc channel.  If so
I can set one up with no problem.  
Hth 

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Kirk Reiser
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 7:32 PM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: speakup speakfreely reflecter


Well, unfortunately, we can hear you but it appears that you don't have
your firewall set-up correctly.  Forward ports 2074-2076 and 4074-4076
through to the machine you want on the reflector.  Also you need to turn
your mike input up we can just barely hear you.

  Kirk

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Re: speakup speakfreely reflecter

[Nick Gawronski]

Hi, an irc channel would also be good.  speakfreely is great but irc would 
be another way to communicate.  bye
My web page is at http://www.nickgawronski.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Grimsby" <jimgrims@pacbell.net>
To: "'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'" 
<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 10:01 AM
Subject: RE: speakup speakfreely reflecter


> Hi, I was wondering would any one be interested in a irc channel.  If so
> I can set one up with no problem.
> Hth
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Kirk Reiser
> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 7:32 PM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: speakup speakfreely reflecter
>
>
> Well, unfortunately, we can hear you but it appears that you don't have
> your firewall set-up correctly.  Forward ports 2074-2076 and 4074-4076
> through to the machine you want on the reflector.  Also you need to turn
> your mike input up we can just barely hear you.
>
>  Kirk
>
> -- 
>
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> phone: (519) 661-3061
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Re: speakup speakfreely reflecter

[Thomas Stivers]

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> Hi, an irc channel would also be good.  speakfreely is great but irc would 
> be another way to communicate.  bye

I am also a long time IRC addict, but I think there has been an IRC
channel before which didn't get much traffic. If we could stir up some
interest I'd be happy to /join the fun.

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Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are,
by definition, not smart enough to debug it." - Brian W. Kernighan

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making a directory tree:

[Steve Dawes]

Can anyone give me any suggestions as to how they would resolve the
following:

I have four directories, let's call them 1 2 3 4.
Now what I would like to do is have the contents of these directories
available in a single directory tree, let's call it alldirs.

I am quite familiar with mount --bind and its strengths, but I cannot figure
out how .
For example, mount --bind 1 alldirs, will expose the contents of 1 in
alldirs, as though the contents of 1 are actually now in alldirs.
However, I cannot figure how to do something similar that would allow me to
combine four directories into one directory tree.
I have tried:
mount --bind 1,2,3,4 alldirs
mount --bind 1 2 3 4 alldirs
mount --bind 1:2:3:4 alldirs
and none of these work.

Any ideas?

Steve

Steve Dawes
Calgary Canada.

Re: making a directory tree:

[Joseph C. Lininger]

Hello,
You can't use the mount --bind call to mount more than one directory or
file at a time. In other words, you can only specify a single source and
a single target. If you want to have all subdirectories available in a
single directory, I suggest using the "ln" command to create symbolic
links to the directories you are attempting to access.

Equal causes can produce very unequal effects.
Joseph C. Lininger
jbahm@pcdesk.net
Verification: 5eab38a77ac40416e075be8f50607ff7

And so it came to pass that on Wed, 15 Jun 2005, Steve Dawes said

> Can anyone give me any suggestions as to how they would resolve the
> following:
>
> I have four directories, let's call them 1 2 3 4.
> Now what I would like to do is have the contents of these directories
> available in a single directory tree, let's call it alldirs.
>
> I am quite familiar with mount --bind and its strengths, but I cannot
figure
> out how .
> For example, mount --bind 1 alldirs, will expose the contents of 1 in
> alldirs, as though the contents of 1 are actually now in alldirs.
> However, I cannot figure how to do something similar that would allow
me to
> combine four directories into one directory tree.
> I have tried:
> mount --bind 1,2,3,4 alldirs
> mount --bind 1 2 3 4 alldirs
> mount --bind 1:2:3:4 alldirs
> and none of these work.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Steve
>
> Steve Dawes
> Calgary Canada.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

RE: making a directory tree:

[Sina Bahram]

Symbolic links could definitely work, but that's just one level away.

As for having all the files from different directories in one directory ...
wouldn't this be impossible to do with any command?

Think about it .. If I have the directories, 1 and 2, and inside 1 I have a
file called a.txt and inside 2 I have a file called a.txt .. That's
perfectly fine, but if they merge ... *whistle*

Take care,
Sina

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Joseph C. Lininger
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 10:00 AM
To: sdawes@telus.net; Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: making a directory tree:

Hello,
You can't use the mount --bind call to mount more than one directory or file
at a time. In other words, you can only specify a single source and a single
target. If you want to have all subdirectories available in a single
directory, I suggest using the "ln" command to create symbolic links to the
directories you are attempting to access.

Equal causes can produce very unequal effects.
Joseph C. Lininger
jbahm@pcdesk.net
Verification: 5eab38a77ac40416e075be8f50607ff7

And so it came to pass that on Wed, 15 Jun 2005, Steve Dawes said

> Can anyone give me any suggestions as to how they would resolve the
> following:
>
> I have four directories, let's call them 1 2 3 4.
> Now what I would like to do is have the contents of these directories 
> available in a single directory tree, let's call it alldirs.
>
> I am quite familiar with mount --bind and its strengths, but I cannot
figure
> out how .
> For example, mount --bind 1 alldirs, will expose the contents of 1 in 
> alldirs, as though the contents of 1 are actually now in alldirs.
> However, I cannot figure how to do something similar that would allow
me to
> combine four directories into one directory tree.
> I have tried:
> mount --bind 1,2,3,4 alldirs
> mount --bind 1 2 3 4 alldirs
> mount --bind 1:2:3:4 alldirs
> and none of these work.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Steve
>
> Steve Dawes
> Calgary Canada.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>


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RE: making a directory tree:

[Joseph C. Lininger]

That would indeed cause problems. My solution would result in links like
directory/1 directory/2 etc. that could then be followed to get to the
contents.

Equal causes can produce very unequal effects.
Joseph C. Lininger
jbahm@pcdesk.net
Verification: 5eab38a77ac40416e075be8f50607ff7

And so it came to pass that on Thu, 16 Jun 2005, Sina Bahram said

> Symbolic links could definitely work, but that's just one level away.
>
> As for having all the files from different directories in one
directory ...
> wouldn't this be impossible to do with any command?
>
> Think about it .. If I have the directories, 1 and 2, and inside 1 I
have a
> file called a.txt and inside 2 I have a file called a.txt .. That's
> perfectly fine, but if they merge ... *whistle*
>
> Take care,
> Sina
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [
mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of Joseph C. Lininger
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 10:00 AM
> To: sdawes@telus.net; Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: making a directory tree:
>
> Hello,
> You can't use the mount --bind call to mount more than one directory
or file
> at a time. In other words, you can only specify a single source and a
single
> target. If you want to have all subdirectories available in a single
> directory, I suggest using the "ln" command to create symbolic links
to the
> directories you are attempting to access.
>
> Equal causes can produce very unequal effects.
> Joseph C. Lininger
> jbahm@pcdesk.net
> Verification: 5eab38a77ac40416e075be8f50607ff7
>
> And so it came to pass that on Wed, 15 Jun 2005, Steve Dawes said
>
>> Can anyone give me any suggestions as to how they would resolve the
>> following:
>>
>> I have four directories, let's call them 1 2 3 4.
>> Now what I would like to do is have the contents of these directories
>> available in a single directory tree, let's call it alldirs.
>>
>> I am quite familiar with mount --bind and its strengths, but I cannot
> figure
>> out how .
>> For example, mount --bind 1 alldirs, will expose the contents of 1 in
>> alldirs, as though the contents of 1 are actually now in alldirs.
>> However, I cannot figure how to do something similar that would allow
> me to
>> combine four directories into one directory tree.
>> I have tried:
>> mount --bind 1,2,3,4 alldirs
>> mount --bind 1 2 3 4 alldirs
>> mount --bind 1:2:3:4 alldirs
>> and none of these work.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> Steve Dawes
>> Calgary Canada.
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Speakup mailing list
>> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>>
>
>
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Re: making a directory tree:

[Janina Sajka]

I would do it like this:

ln -sf ? [dirname]

Before Fedora began producing DVD iso images, we used this trick to
mount the RPM directories from each of the four cdr iso images into a
single directory for convenience sake.

Joseph C. Lininger writes:
> That would indeed cause problems. My solution would result in links like
> directory/1 directory/2 etc. that could then be followed to get to the
> contents.
> 
> Equal causes can produce very unequal effects.
> Joseph C. Lininger
> jbahm@pcdesk.net
> Verification: 5eab38a77ac40416e075be8f50607ff7
> 
> And so it came to pass that on Thu, 16 Jun 2005, Sina Bahram said
> 
> >Symbolic links could definitely work, but that's just one level away.
> >
> >As for having all the files from different directories in one
> directory ...
> >wouldn't this be impossible to do with any command?
> >
> >Think about it .. If I have the directories, 1 and 2, and inside 1 I
> have a
> >file called a.txt and inside 2 I have a file called a.txt .. That's
> >perfectly fine, but if they merge ... *whistle*
> >
> >Take care,
> >Sina
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [
> mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> >On Behalf Of Joseph C. Lininger
> >Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 10:00 AM
> >To: sdawes@telus.net; Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> >Subject: Re: making a directory tree:
> >
> >Hello,
> >You can't use the mount --bind call to mount more than one directory
> or file
> >at a time. In other words, you can only specify a single source and a
> single
> >target. If you want to have all subdirectories available in a single
> >directory, I suggest using the "ln" command to create symbolic links
> to the
> >directories you are attempting to access.
> >
> >Equal causes can produce very unequal effects.
> >Joseph C. Lininger
> >jbahm@pcdesk.net
> >Verification: 5eab38a77ac40416e075be8f50607ff7
> >
> >And so it came to pass that on Wed, 15 Jun 2005, Steve Dawes said
> >
> >>Can anyone give me any suggestions as to how they would resolve the
> >>following:
> >>
> >>I have four directories, let's call them 1 2 3 4.
> >>Now what I would like to do is have the contents of these directories
> >>available in a single directory tree, let's call it alldirs.
> >>
> >>I am quite familiar with mount --bind and its strengths, but I cannot
> >figure
> >>out how .
> >>For example, mount --bind 1 alldirs, will expose the contents of 1 in
> >>alldirs, as though the contents of 1 are actually now in alldirs.
> >>However, I cannot figure how to do something similar that would allow
> >me to
> >>combine four directories into one directory tree.
> >>I have tried:
> >>mount --bind 1,2,3,4 alldirs
> >>mount --bind 1 2 3 4 alldirs
> >>mount --bind 1:2:3:4 alldirs
> >>and none of these work.
> >>
> >>Any ideas?
> >>
> >>Steve
> >>
> >>Steve Dawes
> >>Calgary Canada.
> >>
> >>
> >>_______________________________________________
> >>Speakup mailing list
> >>Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> >>http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >>
> >
> >
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> >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
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> >
> >
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> >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
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> >
> 
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RE: making a directory tree:

[Steve Dawes]

no, think about it.
You have a set of isos that you have mounted and now you want to make them
appear as a single volume. That is what I am trying to do.


Steve



-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Sina Bahram
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 8:35 AM
To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'
Subject: RE: making a directory tree:


Symbolic links could definitely work, but that's just one level away.

As for having all the files from different directories in one directory ...
wouldn't this be impossible to do with any command?

Think about it .. If I have the directories, 1 and 2, and inside 1 I have a
file called a.txt and inside 2 I have a file called a.txt .. That's
perfectly fine, but if they merge ... *whistle*

Take care,
Sina

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Joseph C. Lininger
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 10:00 AM
To: sdawes@telus.net; Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: making a directory tree:

Hello,
You can't use the mount --bind call to mount more than one directory or file
at a time. In other words, you can only specify a single source and a single
target. If you want to have all subdirectories available in a single
directory, I suggest using the "ln" command to create symbolic links to the
directories you are attempting to access.

Equal causes can produce very unequal effects.
Joseph C. Lininger
jbahm@pcdesk.net
Verification: 5eab38a77ac40416e075be8f50607ff7

And so it came to pass that on Wed, 15 Jun 2005, Steve Dawes said

> Can anyone give me any suggestions as to how they would resolve the
> following:
>
> I have four directories, let's call them 1 2 3 4.
> Now what I would like to do is have the contents of these directories
> available in a single directory tree, let's call it alldirs.
>
> I am quite familiar with mount --bind and its strengths, but I cannot
figure
> out how .
> For example, mount --bind 1 alldirs, will expose the contents of 1 in
> alldirs, as though the contents of 1 are actually now in alldirs.
> However, I cannot figure how to do something similar that would allow
me to
> combine four directories into one directory tree.
> I have tried:
> mount --bind 1,2,3,4 alldirs
> mount --bind 1 2 3 4 alldirs
> mount --bind 1:2:3:4 alldirs
> and none of these work.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Steve
>
> Steve Dawes
> Calgary Canada.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>


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RE: making a directory tree:

[Sina Bahram]

Yes, I understand that ... And I am asking you ... How do you propose to
handle name collision conflicts?
 
Take care,
Sina

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Steve Dawes
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 10:13 PM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: RE: making a directory tree:

no, think about it.
You have a set of isos that you have mounted and now you want to make them
appear as a single volume. That is what I am trying to do.


Steve



-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Sina Bahram
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 8:35 AM
To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'
Subject: RE: making a directory tree:


Symbolic links could definitely work, but that's just one level away.

As for having all the files from different directories in one directory ...
wouldn't this be impossible to do with any command?

Think about it .. If I have the directories, 1 and 2, and inside 1 I have a
file called a.txt and inside 2 I have a file called a.txt .. That's
perfectly fine, but if they merge ... *whistle*

Take care,
Sina

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Joseph C. Lininger
Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 10:00 AM
To: sdawes@telus.net; Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: making a directory tree:

Hello,
You can't use the mount --bind call to mount more than one directory or file
at a time. In other words, you can only specify a single source and a single
target. If you want to have all subdirectories available in a single
directory, I suggest using the "ln" command to create symbolic links to the
directories you are attempting to access.

Equal causes can produce very unequal effects.
Joseph C. Lininger
jbahm@pcdesk.net
Verification: 5eab38a77ac40416e075be8f50607ff7

And so it came to pass that on Wed, 15 Jun 2005, Steve Dawes said

> Can anyone give me any suggestions as to how they would resolve the
> following:
>
> I have four directories, let's call them 1 2 3 4.
> Now what I would like to do is have the contents of these directories 
> available in a single directory tree, let's call it alldirs.
>
> I am quite familiar with mount --bind and its strengths, but I cannot
figure
> out how .
> For example, mount --bind 1 alldirs, will expose the contents of 1 in 
> alldirs, as though the contents of 1 are actually now in alldirs.
> However, I cannot figure how to do something similar that would allow
me to
> combine four directories into one directory tree.
> I have tried:
> mount --bind 1,2,3,4 alldirs
> mount --bind 1 2 3 4 alldirs
> mount --bind 1:2:3:4 alldirs
> and none of these work.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Steve
>
> Steve Dawes
> Calgary Canada.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>


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Re: making a directory tree:

[Ralph W. Reid]

Here is a little script which might do the trick.


#!/bin/bash
#Create hard links for all files in directories 1, 2, 3, and 4, placing
#those new links in a specified destination directory.
#Include directory names in file names to keep files from overwriting each other.
#IMPORTANT!!! This script assumes that the four directories to be read from
#do not include subdirectories of their own.  If they do, duplicate file
#names _might_be produced.  This is because the slashes in path names
#are simply replaced with hyphens.
#This simple script could use some optimizing for more general use, but
#it should suffice for the specified task.

#define the destination directory
destinationdir=./alldirs

#first, be sure that the '$destinationdir' directory exists
mkdir $destinationdir > /dev/null 2> /dev/null

#create the links
for i in 1/*
do
ln $i $destinationdir/`echo $i | tr '/' '-'`
done
for i in 2/*
do
ln $i $destinationdir/`echo $i | tr '/' '-'`
done
for i in 3/*
do
ln $i $destinationdir/`echo $i | tr '/' '-'`
done
for i in 4/*
do
ln $i $destinationdir/`echo $i | tr '/' '-'`
done


HTH, and have a _great_ weekend!

On Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 12:02:30AM -0400, Sina Bahram wrote:
> Yes, I understand that ... And I am asking you ... How do you propose to
> handle name collision conflicts?
>  
> Take care,
> Sina
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of Steve Dawes
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 10:13 PM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: RE: making a directory tree:
> 
> no, think about it.
> You have a set of isos that you have mounted and now you want to make them
> appear as a single volume. That is what I am trying to do.
> 
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Sina Bahram
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 8:35 AM
> To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'
> Subject: RE: making a directory tree:
> 
> 
> Symbolic links could definitely work, but that's just one level away.
> 
> As for having all the files from different directories in one directory ...
> wouldn't this be impossible to do with any command?
> 
> Think about it .. If I have the directories, 1 and 2, and inside 1 I have a
> file called a.txt and inside 2 I have a file called a.txt .. That's
> perfectly fine, but if they merge ... *whistle*
> 
> Take care,
> Sina
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of Joseph C. Lininger
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 10:00 AM
> To: sdawes@telus.net; Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: making a directory tree:
> 
> Hello,
> You can't use the mount --bind call to mount more than one directory or file
> at a time. In other words, you can only specify a single source and a single
> target. If you want to have all subdirectories available in a single
> directory, I suggest using the "ln" command to create symbolic links to the
> directories you are attempting to access.
> 
> Equal causes can produce very unequal effects.
> Joseph C. Lininger
> jbahm@pcdesk.net
> Verification: 5eab38a77ac40416e075be8f50607ff7
> 
> And so it came to pass that on Wed, 15 Jun 2005, Steve Dawes said
> 
> > Can anyone give me any suggestions as to how they would resolve the
> > following:
> >
> > I have four directories, let's call them 1 2 3 4.
> > Now what I would like to do is have the contents of these directories 
> > available in a single directory tree, let's call it alldirs.
> >
> > I am quite familiar with mount --bind and its strengths, but I cannot
> figure
> > out how .
> > For example, mount --bind 1 alldirs, will expose the contents of 1 in 
> > alldirs, as though the contents of 1 are actually now in alldirs.
> > However, I cannot figure how to do something similar that would allow
> me to
> > combine four directories into one directory tree.
> > I have tried:
> > mount --bind 1,2,3,4 alldirs
> > mount --bind 1 2 3 4 alldirs
> > mount --bind 1:2:3:4 alldirs
> > and none of these work.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > Steve Dawes
> > Calgary Canada.

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Re: making a directory tree:

[Janina Sajka]

In the case of a proper set of iso images, such as the set of the four Speakup Modified Fedora 3 iso images, I think one is entitled to assume
that filenames will not be duplicated.

My example, posted earlier, is based on precisely the need to keep all
the RPM images from all four of these iso images readily available in a
single directory.

Here's the relevant line from my script file that does precisely
that. I have not modified this for simplicity or anything--this is
exactly where it lives on my system--and exactly what you'll see at
ftp.rednote.net, by the way:

su ftpadmin -c "ln -sf /mnt/d[1-4]/Fedora/RPMS/*
/home/var/ftp/fedora/speakupmodified/i386/Fedora/RPMS/"
> On Fri, Jun 17, 2005 at 12:02:30AM -0400, Sina Bahram wrote:
> > Yes, I understand that ... And I am asking you ... How do you propose to
> > handle name collision conflicts?
> >  
> > -----Original Message-----
>From: Steve Dawes
> > You have a set of isos that you have mounted and now you want to make them
> > appear as a single volume. That is what I am trying to do.

RE: making a directory tree:

[Joseph C. Lininger]

Hello,
To my knolege, there is no way to make the contents of several
directories appear as if they are in one directory. For example, you
couldn't mount several iso images as you say and then have all of their
contents appear in one directory. (But see my proposed solution later)
There are several reasons for this, one of which has already been
pointed out by another list member (name conflicts). There are other
technical reasons that the system as it stands at the moment doesn't
support this. You must access each of the volumes separately.

You do have one option if you can be absolutely sure there will be no
named conflicts. Let's say you have the first image mounted on /mnt/iso1
the second on /mnt/iso2 and the third on /mnt/iso3. You could create one
directory, say in /home/jbahm/isos or something and place a symbolic
link to every file in there, like this:

cd /home/jbahm/isos
ln -s /mnt/iso1/* ./
ln -s /mnt/iso2/* ./
ln -s /mnt/iso3/* ./

You could probably also get away with:

ln -s /mnt/iso*/* ./

to do it all at once, but haven't tried so can't be absolutely sure.
Again, you must take care that there are absolutely no name conflicts.
It won't be pretty if their are.

Equal causes can produce very unequal effects.
Joseph C. Lininger
jbahm@pcdesk.net
Verification: 5eab38a77ac40416e075be8f50607ff7

And so it came to pass that on Thu, 16 Jun 2005, Steve Dawes said

> no, think about it.
> You have a set of isos that you have mounted and now you want to make
them
> appear as a single volume. That is what I am trying to do.
>
>
> Steve
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]On Behalf Of Sina Bahram
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 8:35 AM
> To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'
> Subject: RE: making a directory tree:
>
>
> Symbolic links could definitely work, but that's just one level away.
>
> As for having all the files from different directories in one
directory ...
> wouldn't this be impossible to do with any command?
>
> Think about it .. If I have the directories, 1 and 2, and inside 1 I
have a
> file called a.txt and inside 2 I have a file called a.txt .. That's
> perfectly fine, but if they merge ... *whistle*
>
> Take care,
> Sina
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [
mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of Joseph C. Lininger
> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 10:00 AM
> To: sdawes@telus.net; Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: making a directory tree:
>
> Hello,
> You can't use the mount --bind call to mount more than one directory
or file
> at a time. In other words, you can only specify a single source and a
single
> target. If you want to have all subdirectories available in a single
> directory, I suggest using the "ln" command to create symbolic links
to the
> directories you are attempting to access.
>
> Equal causes can produce very unequal effects.
> Joseph C. Lininger
> jbahm@pcdesk.net
> Verification: 5eab38a77ac40416e075be8f50607ff7
>
> And so it came to pass that on Wed, 15 Jun 2005, Steve Dawes said
>
>> Can anyone give me any suggestions as to how they would resolve the
>> following:
>>
>> I have four directories, let's call them 1 2 3 4.
>> Now what I would like to do is have the contents of these directories
>> available in a single directory tree, let's call it alldirs.
>>
>> I am quite familiar with mount --bind and its strengths, but I cannot
> figure
>> out how .
>> For example, mount --bind 1 alldirs, will expose the contents of 1 in
>> alldirs, as though the contents of 1 are actually now in alldirs.
>> However, I cannot figure how to do something similar that would allow
> me to
>> combine four directories into one directory tree.
>> I have tried:
>> mount --bind 1,2,3,4 alldirs
>> mount --bind 1 2 3 4 alldirs
>> mount --bind 1:2:3:4 alldirs
>> and none of these work.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> Steve Dawes
>> Calgary Canada.
>>
>>
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Re: speakup speakfreely reflecter

[Garrett Klein]

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On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 08:01:12AM -0700, Jim Grimsby wrote:
> Hi, I was wondering would any one be interested in a irc channel.  If so
> I can set one up with no problem.  
Yes, I would be interested. Back to the reflecter though, do you have to
forward/accept ports 2074 and 2076, ETC. as both UDP and TCP?

Garrett
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Kirk Reiser
> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 7:32 PM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: speakup speakfreely reflecter
> 
> 
> Well, unfortunately, we can hear you but it appears that you don't have
> your firewall set-up correctly.  Forward ports 2074-2076 and 4074-4076
> through to the machine you want on the reflector.  Also you need to turn
> your mike input up we can just barely hear you.
> 
>   Kirk
> 
> -- 
> 
> Kirk Reiser				The Computer Braille Facility
> e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca		University of Western Ontario
> phone: (519) 661-3061
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Re: speakup speakfreely reflecter

[Gene Collins]

Hi. You have to forward ports 2074-2076 UDP and 4074-4076 UDP.
Forwarding TCP is not necessary.
Gene.

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>On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 08:01:12AM -0700, Jim Grimsby wrote:
>> Hi, I was wondering would any one be interested in a irc channel.  If so
>> I can set one up with no problem.  
>Yes, I would be interested. Back to the reflecter though, do you have to
>forward/accept ports 2074 and 2076, ETC. as both UDP and TCP?
>
>Garrett
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
>> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Kirk Reiser
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 7:32 PM
>> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
>> Subject: Re: speakup speakfreely reflecter
>> 
>> 
>> Well, unfortunately, we can hear you but it appears that you don't have
>> your firewall set-up correctly.  Forward ports 2074-2076 and 4074-4076
>> through to the machine you want on the reflector.  Also you need to turn
>> your mike input up we can just barely hear you.
>> 
>>   Kirk
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> Kirk Reiser				The Computer Braille Facility
>> e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca		University of Western Ontario
>> phone: (519) 661-3061
>> 
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>> 
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speakup speakfreely reflecter

[JAMES DOSMAN]

can any one tell me if the reflecter is still running
i have tryed to get on it but it does not seem to work no one is on there
witch is not to bad but also the who and list commands make it freez up and i have to crash it has it moved to a nother site?
james

Re: speakup speakfreely reflecter

[Kirk Reiser]

Yes it has moved.  You can get a script which only needs editing your
information for the new machine in the goodies directory at
ftp://linux-speakup.org/~ftp/pub/linux/goodies/.  I believe off the top of my head that the machine is named gene3.ait.iastate.edu.

  Kirk

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Kirk Reiser				The Computer Braille Facility
e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca		University of Western Ontario
phone: (519) 661-3061