Ethernet Card

Ethernet Card

[ace]

Hello,

I have a 3C505 Ethernet card (according to my friend who sent it to me).  I 
installed the card myself and tried
ifconfig
and
ifconfig eth0
and it said device not found.  So, I went to load the module:
3c59x
which is a series module for a few more cards.  After doing a modprobe on 
this, I still get the same results--cannot find the device.  Are there any 
other modules that need to be applied to the kernel?

Thanks
Robby

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Re: Ethernet Card

[Stephen Clower]

Hello Robby,

              When you built your kernel, did you specify network
              support? If so, did you build the 3c59x module at
              compile time? I ran into this same problem the first
              time I compiled a kernel because I had accidentally said
              no to that feature. Try rebuilding the module and see if
              that works.
              

On Tuesday, January 11, 2005, 5:27:28 PM, you stood on a roof and loudly proclaimed:

> Hello,

> I have a 3C505 Ethernet card (according to my friend who sent it to me).  I
> installed the card myself and tried
> ifconfig
> and
> ifconfig eth0
> and it said device not found.  So, I went to load the module:
> 3c59x
> which is a series module for a few more cards.  After doing a modprobe on
> this, I still get the same results--cannot find the device.  Are there any
> other modules that need to be applied to the kernel?

> Thanks
> Robby

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Re: Ethernet Card

[Alex Snow]

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3c505...iirc that's an extremely old isa 10mbps non pnp nic. If that's 
in fact the card the 3c59x module doesn't handle that. the module you 
want to load is 3c505.
On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 06:27:28PM -0500, ace 
wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have a 3C505 Ethernet card (according to my friend who sent it to me).  I 
> installed the card myself and tried
> ifconfig
> and
> ifconfig eth0
> and it said device not found.  So, I went to load the module:
> 3c59x
> which is a series module for a few more cards.  After doing a modprobe on 
> this, I still get the same results--cannot find the device.  Are there any 
> other modules that need to be applied to the kernel?
> 
> Thanks
> Robby
> 
> Network Administrator of
> irc.talkingirc.com
> http://www.talkingirc.com 
> 
> 
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Re: Ethernet Card

[Janina Sajka]

If modprobe isn't finding your card, it may not be a card you can use,
after all. Sorry to say that, but then network cards can be had very
affordably these days. I bought a realtech 10/100 for $10 at a computer
fair some time ago, for instance.

You might need to decide whether chasing this particular card, or just
replacing it is the smarter way to go.

ace writes:
> Hello,
> 
> I have a 3C505 Ethernet card (according to my friend who sent it to me).  I 
> installed the card myself and tried
> ifconfig
> and
> ifconfig eth0
> and it said device not found.  So, I went to load the module:
> 3c59x
> which is a series module for a few more cards.  After doing a modprobe on 
> this, I still get the same results--cannot find the device.  Are there any 
> other modules that need to be applied to the kernel?
> 
> Thanks
> Robby
> 
> Network Administrator of
> irc.talkingirc.com
> http://www.talkingirc.com 
> 
> 
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Re: Ethernet Card

[nick G]

Good Choice, Janina.  I've got four computers over here, two have realtech
ethernet cards, two have ThreeCom.  The ThreeCom's are not as good as the
realtech's, and one of the ThreeComs is gigabit.
Thanks,
Nick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: Ethernet Card


If modprobe isn't finding your card, it may not be a card you can use,
after all. Sorry to say that, but then network cards can be had very
affordably these days. I bought a realtech 10/100 for $10 at a computer
fair some time ago, for instance.

You might need to decide whether chasing this particular card, or just
replacing it is the smarter way to go.

ace writes:
> Hello,
>
> I have a 3C505 Ethernet card (according to my friend who sent it to me).
I
> installed the card myself and tried
> ifconfig
> and
> ifconfig eth0
> and it said device not found.  So, I went to load the module:
> 3c59x
> which is a series module for a few more cards.  After doing a modprobe on
> this, I still get the same results--cannot find the device.  Are there any
> other modules that need to be applied to the kernel?
>
> Thanks
> Robby
>
> Network Administrator of
> irc.talkingirc.com
> http://www.talkingirc.com
>
>
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> Speakup mailing list
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Re: Ethernet Card

[Sean McMahon]

If your machine gets its address from a dhcp server, what are the other modules
you have to load or compile built-in to the kernel.  I ask because a few times I
included network support, dhcp support, support for my card and ifconfig still
didn't get a dhcp address.
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From: "Alex Snow" <alex_snow@gmx.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 4:35 PM
Subject: Re: Ethernet Card


3c505...iirc that's an extremely old isa 10mbps non pnp nic. If that's
in fact the card the 3c59x module doesn't handle that. the module you
want to load is 3c505.
On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 06:27:28PM -0500, ace
wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have a 3C505 Ethernet card (according to my friend who sent it to me).  I
> installed the card myself and tried
> ifconfig
> and
> ifconfig eth0
> and it said device not found.  So, I went to load the module:
> 3c59x
> which is a series module for a few more cards.  After doing a modprobe on
> this, I still get the same results--cannot find the device.  Are there any
> other modules that need to be applied to the kernel?
>
> Thanks
> Robby
>
> Network Administrator of
> irc.talkingirc.com
> http://www.talkingirc.com
>
>
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Re: Ethernet Card

[Alex Snow]

acording to the docs this card is in fact supported. It however is not 
pci nor pnp so won't be autodetected. If I remember rightly Ace You're 
running slackware and newer versions of that distro won't probe for an 
isa network card during setup.
On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 07:17:31PM -0500, 
Janina Sajka wrote:
> If modprobe isn't finding your card, it may not be a card you can use,
> after all. Sorry to say that, but then network cards can be had very
> affordably these days. I bought a realtech 10/100 for $10 at a computer
> fair some time ago, for instance.
> 
> You might need to decide whether chasing this particular card, or just
> replacing it is the smarter way to go.
> 
> ace writes:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I have a 3C505 Ethernet card (according to my friend who sent it to me).  I 
> > installed the card myself and tried
> > ifconfig
> > and
> > ifconfig eth0
> > and it said device not found.  So, I went to load the module:
> > 3c59x
> > which is a series module for a few more cards.  After doing a modprobe on 
> > this, I still get the same results--cannot find the device.  Are there any 
> > other modules that need to be applied to the kernel?
> > 
> > Thanks
> > Robby
> > 
> > Network Administrator of
> > irc.talkingirc.com
> > http://www.talkingirc.com 
> > 
> > 
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> 
> Chair, Accessibility Workgroup		Free Standards Group (FSG)
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Re: Ethernet Card

[Alex Snow]

the newer 3coms arent very good but the older pci ones and most of the 
isa models are quite nice. I've been using 3c509s for years and they 
work great for 10mbps and I have some boxes with pci 3c595s and 3c905s 
that work quite well.
On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 07:41:56PM -0500, nick G 
wrote:
> Good Choice, Janina.  I've got four computers over here, two have realtech
> ethernet cards, two have ThreeCom.  The ThreeCom's are not as good as the
> realtech's, and one of the ThreeComs is gigabit.
> Thanks,
> Nick
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 7:17 PM
> Subject: Re: Ethernet Card
> 
> 
> If modprobe isn't finding your card, it may not be a card you can use,
> after all. Sorry to say that, but then network cards can be had very
> affordably these days. I bought a realtech 10/100 for $10 at a computer
> fair some time ago, for instance.
> 
> You might need to decide whether chasing this particular card, or just
> replacing it is the smarter way to go.
> 
> ace writes:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have a 3C505 Ethernet card (according to my friend who sent it to me).
> I
> > installed the card myself and tried
> > ifconfig
> > and
> > ifconfig eth0
> > and it said device not found.  So, I went to load the module:
> > 3c59x
> > which is a series module for a few more cards.  After doing a modprobe on
> > this, I still get the same results--cannot find the device.  Are there any
> > other modules that need to be applied to the kernel?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Robby
> >
> > Network Administrator of
> > irc.talkingirc.com
> > http://www.talkingirc.com
> >
> >
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> 
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> 
> Chair, Accessibility Workgroup Free Standards Group (FSG)
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Re: Ethernet Card

[Gregory Nowak]

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Can you qualify "not as good as" with some examples? I have 2
rtl8139-based cards, and 3 3com 905c cards, and have noticed no
performance differences between the 2 types.

Greg


On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 07:41:56PM -0500, nick G wrote:
> Good Choice, Janina.  I've got four computers over here, two have realtech
> ethernet cards, two have ThreeCom.  The ThreeCom's are not as good as the
> realtech's, and one of the ThreeComs is gigabit.
> Thanks,
> Nick

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Re: Ethernet Card

[Gregory Nowak]

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If your machine gets its address from a DHCP server, there are no
modules that you need to load or compile into your kernel. You need to
instead install a DHCP client such as dhcpcd.

BTW, you shouldn't include the kernel-level DHCP support, unless you
have a diskless machine that boots off the network.

Greg
 
On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 06:10:46PM -0700, Sean McMahon wrote:
> If your machine gets its address from a dhcp server, what are the other modules
> you have to load or compile built-in to the kernel.  I ask because a few times I
> included network support, dhcp support, support for my card and ifconfig still
> didn't get a dhcp address.

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PPP was Re: Ethernet Card

[ace]

Well, now, I'm having problems initialising a PPP connection to my ISP.  I 
think I am learning my lesson for not going through make menuconfig 
thoroughly.  Oh well.  Anyways, when I did ppp-on, it complained that PPP 
wasn't compiled into the kernel or whatever.  So, I went and installed it 
as a module from menuconfig.  Now, when I run this command, I get:
Couldn't set tty to PPP discipline: invalid argument

One problem leads to the next...I was dialing up my Linux box so that my 
friend could log in and see what's wrong with my ethernet card.  Yes, I am 
networking two computers on my dialup connection so I can gain experience 
in this field before DSL reaches my area.


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>Can you qualify "not as good as" with some examples? I have 2
>rtl8139-based cards, and 3 3com 905c cards, and have noticed no
>performance differences between the 2 types.
>
>Greg
>
>
>On Tue, Jan 11, 2005 at 07:41:56PM -0500, nick G wrote:
> > Good Choice, Janina.  I've got four computers over here, two have realtech
> > ethernet cards, two have ThreeCom.  The ThreeCom's are not as good as the
> > realtech's, and one of the ThreeComs is gigabit.
> > Thanks,
> > Nick
>
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re: ethernet card

[Alex Snow]

scratch that...I found a driver.

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ethernet card

[Alex Snow]

I have some machines I'm working on that are using intel 8/16 
(etherexpress) adapters. what driver do these use? these are old non pnp 
isa cards with a db15 and rj45 connecter. I did a google search for them 
but all I got was stuff on openbsd and netbsd.

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