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* e-mail program
@  Roy Nickelson
   ` Alex Snow
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From: Roy Nickelson @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

Hi
is mutt the best program to use for e-mail?  Where do you configure the
settings such as incomming and outgoing server username and password.

Also I am willing to try other e-mail clients.
Roy



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* Re: e-mail program
   e-mail program Roy Nickelson
@  ` Alex Snow
     ` Roy Nickelson
   ` David Csercsics
                   ` (2 subsequent siblings)
  3 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Alex Snow @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

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your mail client is a personal preference. I see a lot of new users 
(especially ones who have used internet access through a unix shell 
which most likely used it) use pine. I started out using it but ended 
up switching to mutt. pine isn't as complex as mutt and slightly 
easier to configure. however it lacks some features such as native pgp 
support and some people won't use it since it's license is broken. If 
you don't have a problem editing a configuration file then mutt is a 
good choice. you may also want to look at elm...I can't comment on it 
having never used it
On Fri, Apr 30, 2004 at 10:51:44PM -0400, Roy 
Nickelson wrote:
> Hi
> is mutt the best program to use for e-mail?  Where do you configure the
> settings such as incomming and outgoing server username and password.
> 
> Also I am willing to try other e-mail clients.
> Roy
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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	-- Submitted by Pancrazio De Mauro, paraphrasing some well-known sales talk
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* Re: e-mail program
   e-mail program Roy Nickelson
   ` Alex Snow
@  ` David Csercsics
   ` Thomas Stivers
   ` Joseph C. Lininger
  3 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: David Csercsics @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux., Roy Nickelson

>Hi
>is mutt the best program to use for e-mail?  Where do you configure the
>settings such as incomming and outgoing server username and password.
You don't configurte outgoing smtp in mutt and you're advised not to
configure pop3 stuff in mutt either according to the docs. I personally
prefer nmh but then there are  a lot of Linux email clients so try
10 or 20 and pick one.


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* Re: e-mail program
   ` Alex Snow
@    ` Roy Nickelson
       ` Kenny Hitt
       ` Alex Snow
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Roy Nickelson @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

hi,
it may help to know I am trying to access a standard pop3 account.  I can
edit config files fine but I looked at the sample for  mutt and didn't see
the settings I was looking for.
Roy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alex Snow" <alex_snow@gmx.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 11:03 PM
Subject: Re: e-mail program


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your mail client is a personal preference. I see a lot of new users
(especially ones who have used internet access through a unix shell
which most likely used it) use pine. I started out using it but ended
up switching to mutt. pine isn't as complex as mutt and slightly
easier to configure. however it lacks some features such as native pgp
support and some people won't use it since it's license is broken. If
you don't have a problem editing a configuration file then mutt is a
good choice. you may also want to look at elm...I can't comment on it
having never used it
On Fri, Apr 30, 2004 at 10:51:44PM -0400, Roy
Nickelson wrote:
> Hi
> is mutt the best program to use for e-mail?  Where do you configure the
> settings such as incomming and outgoing server username and password.
>
> Also I am willing to try other e-mail clients.
> Roy
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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* Re: e-mail program
   e-mail program Roy Nickelson
   ` Alex Snow
   ` David Csercsics
@  ` Thomas Stivers
     ` Roy Nickelson
     ` Hynek Hanke
   ` Joseph C. Lininger
  3 siblings, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Thomas Stivers @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

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On Apr 30 2004 10:51 PM, Roy Nickelson wrote:
> Hi
> is mutt the best program to use for e-mail?  Where do you configure the
> settings such as incomming and outgoing server username and password.

Mutt is IMHO the best mail user agent available for use on the console,
but that is a *very* subjective question. Mutt is pretty difficult to
configure to take advantage of its more advanced features, but once you
get it working it is very nice.

You don't put your smtp and pop3 server stuff in your .muttrc (mutt's
configuration file). You need to sett up something like fetchmail to get
your messages off your pop server and set up some kind of mail transfer
agent to handle sending mail from mutt. There are many options for MTA's
including sendmail, exim, postfix, Qmail, ETC. Etc. ETC. There are also
programs designed to be much simpler than a full blown MTA which just
send mail to your smtp server. Some of these are ssmtp, nullmailer, and
bsmtp. I don't use one of these, but i am sure someone on this list does
and could help you with them.

The mutt manual, located on your system at
/usr/share/doc/mutt/manual.txt, is a very good reference for all things
mutt and can provide you with hours of oh so fun reading.

> Also I am willing to try other e-mail clients.

NOOO! Butt seriously if you just want something to work out of the box
more or less then you probably want to try pine. It is not as
configureable as mutt, but it does get the job done. If you're an emacs
or emacspeak user then you may want to check out gnus which I have heard
a lot about, but I don't like emacs so... As others have said try
various things and you will find what you prefer and then you will be
telling people on mailing lists that it is the best. *chuckle* Have a
nice day and happy hunting for your mail program.

- -- 
"Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place.
Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are,
by definition, not smart enough to debug it." - Brian W. Kernighan

Thomas Stivers	e-mail: stivers_t@tomass.dyndns.org
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* Re: e-mail program
   ` Thomas Stivers
@    ` Roy Nickelson
       ` Thomas Stivers
       ` Joseph C. Lininger
     ` Hynek Hanke
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Roy Nickelson @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

hi,
here is what I am trying to acomplish I am just wanting to send and receive
e-mail at the moment. I would like to use something that is sor of standard.
(like oe)  but from the console.  From what I can tell Mutt is good along
with sendmail and fetchmail.  Is this the combination you use?  I would like
to somehow find where to congfigure this stuff without reading 4 or 5
manuals before I can even do one thing.
Pine looks cool but I can't find where to put the user name and password for
my isp.
Roy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Thomas Stivers" <stivers_t@tomass.dyndns.org>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 12:51 AM
Subject: Re: e-mail program


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On Apr 30 2004 10:51 PM, Roy Nickelson wrote:
> Hi
> is mutt the best program to use for e-mail?  Where do you configure the
> settings such as incomming and outgoing server username and password.

Mutt is IMHO the best mail user agent available for use on the console,
but that is a *very* subjective question. Mutt is pretty difficult to
configure to take advantage of its more advanced features, but once you
get it working it is very nice.

You don't put your smtp and pop3 server stuff in your .muttrc (mutt's
configuration file). You need to sett up something like fetchmail to get
your messages off your pop server and set up some kind of mail transfer
agent to handle sending mail from mutt. There are many options for MTA's
including sendmail, exim, postfix, Qmail, ETC. Etc. ETC. There are also
programs designed to be much simpler than a full blown MTA which just
send mail to your smtp server. Some of these are ssmtp, nullmailer, and
bsmtp. I don't use one of these, but i am sure someone on this list does
and could help you with them.

The mutt manual, located on your system at
/usr/share/doc/mutt/manual.txt, is a very good reference for all things
mutt and can provide you with hours of oh so fun reading.

> Also I am willing to try other e-mail clients.

NOOO! Butt seriously if you just want something to work out of the box
more or less then you probably want to try pine. It is not as
configureable as mutt, but it does get the job done. If you're an emacs
or emacspeak user then you may want to check out gnus which I have heard
a lot about, but I don't like emacs so... As others have said try
various things and you will find what you prefer and then you will be
telling people on mailing lists that it is the best. *chuckle* Have a
nice day and happy hunting for your mail program.

- -- 
"Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place.
Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are,
by definition, not smart enough to debug it." - Brian W. Kernighan

Thomas Stivers e-mail: stivers_t@tomass.dyndns.org
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* Re: e-mail program
     ` Roy Nickelson
@      ` Thomas Stivers
       ` Joseph C. Lininger
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Thomas Stivers @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

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On May 01 2004  1:13 AM, Roy Nickelson wrote:
> hi,
> here is what I am trying to acomplish I am just wanting to send and receive
> e-mail at the moment. I would like to use something that is sor of standard.
> (like oe)  but from the console.  From what I can tell Mutt is good along
> with sendmail and fetchmail.  Is this the combination you use?  I would like

I use mutt and fetchmail, but because I could never get my head around
the sendmail configuration process I use exim instead.

> to somehow find where to congfigure this stuff without reading 4 or 5
> manuals before I can even do one thing.

I understand the feeling.

> Pine looks cool but I can't find where to put the user name and password for
> my isp.

Pine also kind of expects a sendmail-like program for sending mail just
by sending it to the local host. There is an option on the configuration
screen that lets you set an smtp server to use. I don't know if the same
is true for the pop server for recieving mail. I think you should at
least use fetchmail even if pine can send properly. I don't recall your
distro, but I am sure it is there as a package. Your fetchmail
configuration file should look something like the following.

# to have fetchmail act as a daemon polling the server every 5 minutes
set daemon 300
poll some.pop.server with proto pop3
user your-user-name
pass "your-password"

With fetchmail installed and this in a file called .fetchmailrc in your
home directory you should be able to receive mail.

- -- 
"Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place.
Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are,
by definition, not smart enough to debug it." - Brian W. Kernighan

Thomas Stivers	e-mail: stivers_t@tomass.dyndns.org
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* Re: e-mail program
   ` Thomas Stivers
     ` Roy Nickelson
@    ` Hynek Hanke
       ` Thomas Stivers
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Hynek Hanke @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

On Fri, Apr 30, 2004 at 11:51:24PM -0500, Thomas Stivers wrote:
> > is mutt the best program to use for e-mail?  Where do you configure the
> > settings such as incomming and outgoing server username and password.
> 
> You don't put your smtp and pop3 server stuff in your .muttrc (mutt's
> configuration file). You need to sett up something like fetchmail to get
> your messages off your pop server 

Mutt can fetch the emails from the pop3 server automatically. You only need
to set up some mail transfer agent for the outgoing email.

The relevant options for the incomming mail in your .muttrc are:

set pop_host=pop3.volny.cz
set pop_user=hanke
set pop_pass=your_password
# Delete emails from server after fetching them
set pop_delete=yes

Then try shift-G in Mutt.

Have a nice day,
Hynek Hanke


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* Re: e-mail program
     ` Hynek Hanke
@      ` Thomas Stivers
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Thomas Stivers @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

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On May 01 2004 12:15 PM, Hynek Hanke wrote:
> Mutt can fetch the emails from the pop3 server automatically. You only need
> to set up some mail transfer agent for the outgoing email.
> 
> The relevant options for the incomming mail in your .muttrc are:
> 
> set pop_host=pop3.volny.cz
> set pop_user=hanke
> set pop_pass=your_password
> # Delete emails from server after fetching them
> set pop_delete=yes
> 
> Then try shift-G in Mutt.

Good point, sorry I forgot about that. I don't like it much though
because i have several pop accounts I need to receive mail from. If you
only have one account then it does simplify things a bit.

- -- 
"Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place.
Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are,
by definition, not smart enough to debug it." - Brian W. Kernighan

Thomas Stivers	e-mail: stivers_t@tomass.dyndns.org
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* Re: e-mail program
     ` Roy Nickelson
@      ` Kenny Hitt
         ` Shaun Oliver
       ` Alex Snow
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Kenny Hitt @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

Hi.  You usually use fetchmail to get mail from the pop3 account and
what ever MTA you have installed to send out mail.

Hope this helps.
          Kenny

On Fri, Apr 30, 2004 at 11:07:41PM -0400, Roy Nickelson wrote:
> hi,
> it may help to know I am trying to access a standard pop3 account.  I can
> edit config files fine but I looked at the sample for  mutt and didn't see
> the settings I was looking for.
> Roy
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Alex Snow" <alex_snow@gmx.net>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 11:03 PM
> Subject: Re: e-mail program
> 
> 
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> 
> your mail client is a personal preference. I see a lot of new users
> (especially ones who have used internet access through a unix shell
> which most likely used it) use pine. I started out using it but ended
> up switching to mutt. pine isn't as complex as mutt and slightly
> easier to configure. however it lacks some features such as native pgp
> support and some people won't use it since it's license is broken. If
> you don't have a problem editing a configuration file then mutt is a
> good choice. you may also want to look at elm...I can't comment on it
> having never used it
> On Fri, Apr 30, 2004 at 10:51:44PM -0400, Roy
> Nickelson wrote:
> > Hi
> > is mutt the best program to use for e-mail?  Where do you configure the
> > settings such as incomming and outgoing server username and password.
> >
> > Also I am willing to try other e-mail clients.
> > Roy
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> - -- 
> Linux: Where Don't We Want To Go Today?
> -- Submitted by Pancrazio De Mauro, paraphrasing some well-known sales talk
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> 
> 
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> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup


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* Re: e-mail program
       ` Kenny Hitt
@        ` Shaun Oliver
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Shaun Oliver @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

I use fetchmail and that hands the mail off to exim which delivers it 
locally to me and I have exim employing the use of clamav for scanning 
my mail for viri.
anyone that thinks they won't get a virus sent to them is folling 
themselves and I'm of the oppinion as well,
if I catch it I have a directive that allows me never to see the emails.
not only that I filter my email through spamassassin as well.
you can never have too much security I believe even if it's over kill.

-- 
Shaun Oliver


"I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person."
email: shaun.oliver@optusnet.com.au
WEB: http://blindman.homelinux.org/~blindman/
IRC: irc.awesomechat.net:6666
IRCNICK: blindman


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* Re: e-mail program
     ` Roy Nickelson
       ` Kenny Hitt
@      ` Alex Snow
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Alex Snow @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

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with mutt and pine you'd be better off using fetchmail to download 
your mail from the pop3 server.
On Fri, Apr 30, 2004 at 11:07:41PM -0400, 
Roy Nickelson wrote:
> hi,
> it may help to know I am trying to access a standard pop3 account.  I can
> edit config files fine but I looked at the sample for  mutt and didn't see
> the settings I was looking for.
> Roy
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Alex Snow" <alex_snow@gmx.net>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 11:03 PM
> Subject: Re: e-mail program
> 
> 
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> Hash: SHA1
> 
> your mail client is a personal preference. I see a lot of new users
> (especially ones who have used internet access through a unix shell
> which most likely used it) use pine. I started out using it but ended
> up switching to mutt. pine isn't as complex as mutt and slightly
> easier to configure. however it lacks some features such as native pgp
> support and some people won't use it since it's license is broken. If
> you don't have a problem editing a configuration file then mutt is a
> good choice. you may also want to look at elm...I can't comment on it
> having never used it
> On Fri, Apr 30, 2004 at 10:51:44PM -0400, Roy
> Nickelson wrote:
> > Hi
> > is mutt the best program to use for e-mail?  Where do you configure the
> > settings such as incomming and outgoing server username and password.
> >
> > Also I am willing to try other e-mail clients.
> > Roy
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> - -- 
> Linux: Where Don't We Want To Go Today?
> -- Submitted by Pancrazio De Mauro, paraphrasing some well-known sales talk
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> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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> Is there any hope for me? Am I just thick? Does anyone remember the
> Rubiks Cube, it was easier!
I found that the Rubiks cube and Linux are alike. Looks real confusing
until you read the right book. :-)
	-- seen on c.o.l.misc, about the "Linux Learning Curve"
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* Re: e-mail program
   e-mail program Roy Nickelson
                   ` (2 preceding siblings ...)
   ` Thomas Stivers
@  ` Joseph C. Lininger
     ` Alex Snow
  3 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Joseph C. Lininger @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.


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Under Linux, I personally prefur pine. I don't know much about any others.
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- ----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Roy Nickelson" <roylee@visuallink.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 8:51 PM
Subject: e-mail program


> Hi
> is mutt the best program to use for e-mail?  Where do you configure the
> settings such as incomming and outgoing server username and password.
>
> Also I am willing to try other e-mail clients.
> Roy
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
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* Re: e-mail program
     ` Roy Nickelson
       ` Thomas Stivers
@      ` Joseph C. Lininger
         ` Raul A. Gallegos
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Joseph C. Lininger @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.


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Your setup is fine but use something other than sendmail if possible. I am 
probably going to open up a can of worms here, but sendmail is perhaps the 
most insecure program ever developed for the Unix like operating system. use 
something like postfix, exim, qmail, or courier.
- ---
Joseph C. Lininger
jbahm@pcdesk.net
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From: "Roy Nickelson" <roylee@visuallink.com>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 11:13 PM
Subject: Re: e-mail program


> hi,
> here is what I am trying to acomplish I am just wanting to send and 
> receive
> e-mail at the moment. I would like to use something that is sor of 
> standard.
> (like oe)  but from the console.  From what I can tell Mutt is good along
> with sendmail and fetchmail.  Is this the combination you use?  I would 
> like
> to somehow find where to congfigure this stuff without reading 4 or 5
> manuals before I can even do one thing.
> Pine looks cool but I can't find where to put the user name and password 
> for
> my isp.
> Roy
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Thomas Stivers" <stivers_t@tomass.dyndns.org>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
> <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 12:51 AM
> Subject: Re: e-mail program
>
>
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> On Apr 30 2004 10:51 PM, Roy Nickelson wrote:
>> Hi
>> is mutt the best program to use for e-mail?  Where do you configure the
>> settings such as incomming and outgoing server username and password.
>
> Mutt is IMHO the best mail user agent available for use on the console,
> but that is a *very* subjective question. Mutt is pretty difficult to
> configure to take advantage of its more advanced features, but once you
> get it working it is very nice.
>
> You don't put your smtp and pop3 server stuff in your .muttrc (mutt's
> configuration file). You need to sett up something like fetchmail to get
> your messages off your pop server and set up some kind of mail transfer
> agent to handle sending mail from mutt. There are many options for MTA's
> including sendmail, exim, postfix, Qmail, ETC. Etc. ETC. There are also
> programs designed to be much simpler than a full blown MTA which just
> send mail to your smtp server. Some of these are ssmtp, nullmailer, and
> bsmtp. I don't use one of these, but i am sure someone on this list does
> and could help you with them.
>
> The mutt manual, located on your system at
> /usr/share/doc/mutt/manual.txt, is a very good reference for all things
> mutt and can provide you with hours of oh so fun reading.
>
>> Also I am willing to try other e-mail clients.
>
> NOOO! Butt seriously if you just want something to work out of the box
> more or less then you probably want to try pine. It is not as
> configureable as mutt, but it does get the job done. If you're an emacs
> or emacspeak user then you may want to check out gnus which I have heard
> a lot about, but I don't like emacs so... As others have said try
> various things and you will find what you prefer and then you will be
> telling people on mailing lists that it is the best. *chuckle* Have a
> nice day and happy hunting for your mail program.
>
> - -- 
> "Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place.
> Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are,
> by definition, not smart enough to debug it." - Brian W. Kernighan
>
> Thomas Stivers e-mail: stivers_t@tomass.dyndns.org
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* Re: e-mail program
   ` Joseph C. Lininger
@    ` Alex Snow
       ` Erik Heil
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Alex Snow @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

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pine is a lot easier to configure then mutt. and It's also a 
newsreader which is the only reason I keep it around.
On 
Sun, May 02, 2004 at 03:51:28AM -0600, Joseph C. Lininger wrote:
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> Under Linux, I personally prefur pine. I don't know much about any others.
> - ---
> Joseph C. Lininger
> jbahm@pcdesk.net
> note, the following is used for automated processing. Please leave in tact 
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> - ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Roy Nickelson" <roylee@visuallink.com>
> To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 8:51 PM
> Subject: e-mail program
> 
> 
> >Hi
> >is mutt the best program to use for e-mail?  Where do you configure the
> >settings such as incomming and outgoing server username and password.
> >
> >Also I am willing to try other e-mail clients.
> >Roy
> >
> >
> >_______________________________________________
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> >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
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- -- 
> What does ELF stand for (in respect to Linux?)
ELF is the first rock group that Ronnie James Dio performed with back in 
the early 1970's.  In constrast, a.out is a misspelling	 of the French word 
for the month of August.  What the two have in common is beyond me, but 
Linux users seem to use the two words together.
	-- seen on c.o.l.misc
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* Re: e-mail program
     ` Alex Snow
@      ` Erik Heil
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Erik Heil @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

Well for news reading, there's trn and slrn just to name a few.  I
personally don't like slrn, rather I prefer trn.  You can just build it from
source, you know, do the standard ./Configure, make, make install.  It has a
nnice interface and a hell of a lot of options.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alex Snow" <alex_snow@gmx.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: e-mail program


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> pine is a lot easier to configure then mutt. and It's also a
> newsreader which is the only reason I keep it around.
> On
> Sun, May 02, 2004 at 03:51:28AM -0600, Joseph C. Lininger wrote:
> >
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> > Under Linux, I personally prefur pine. I don't know much about any
others.
> > - ---
> > Joseph C. Lininger
> > jbahm@pcdesk.net
> > note, the following is used for automated processing. Please leave in
tact
> > if quoting me in a reply.
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> > - ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Roy Nickelson" <roylee@visuallink.com>
> > To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."
<speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> > Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 8:51 PM
> > Subject: e-mail program
> >
> >
> > >Hi
> > >is mutt the best program to use for e-mail?  Where do you configure the
> > >settings such as incomming and outgoing server username and password.
> > >
> > >Also I am willing to try other e-mail clients.
> > >Roy
> > >
> > >
> > >_______________________________________________
> > >Speakup mailing list
> > >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
> - -- 
> > What does ELF stand for (in respect to Linux?)
> ELF is the first rock group that Ronnie James Dio performed with back in
> the early 1970's.  In constrast, a.out is a misspelling of the French word
> for the month of August.  What the two have in common is beyond me, but
> Linux users seem to use the two words together.
> -- seen on c.o.l.misc
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* Re: e-mail program
       ` Joseph C. Lininger
@        ` Raul A. Gallegos
           ` Alex Snow
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread
From: Raul A. Gallegos @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

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I use mutt for my mua and exim for my mta.  A very good combination if I do say so and I don't care about any can of worms 
opened.  *smile*.  I used to use sendmail but found it was more trouble than it was worth.  Postfix is also a good one but 
different in its own way.

Cheers.

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* Re: e-mail program
         ` Raul A. Gallegos
@          ` Alex Snow
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread
From: Alex Snow @  UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.

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I've found courier to be quite a nice package. It's easy to configure 
and has a nice web-based admin and webmail program.
On Sun, May 02, 2004 
at 07:44:18PM -0600, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
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> I use mutt for my mua and exim for my mta.  A very good combination if I do say so and I don't care about any can of worms 
> opened.  *smile*.  I used to use sendmail but found it was more trouble than it was worth.  Postfix is also a good one but 
> different in its own way.
> 
> Cheers.
> 
> - -- 
> Raul A. Gallegos - http://www.asmodean.net
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> me and not a virus.  Public key at: http://asmodean.net/raul-pgp.asc
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on it, you know they are just evil lies.
	-- Linus Torvalds
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