Slackware 11 aliases, anyone?

Slackware 11 aliases, anyone?

[Gaijin]

     Hi again all,

     Well, Slack11 is working great.  The BSD init setup is strange 
after working in System V.  I have a really strange problem.  I saved a 
few of my own aliases in a file called .aliases, and then made and added 
the lines to .bashrc:

echo 3 > /proc/speakup/rate
source ~/.aliases

     It didn't work, so I unaliased all of my aliases and tried again. 
That didn't work either, so I deleted every single file in the home 
directory, deleted every alias, logged out, logged vack in, and guess 
what?  The stoopid default aliases were back!  wtf?  Is Windows haunting 
my Linux drive now?  Anyone know how to get rid of the default aliases 
and add my own?  .bashrc doesn't seem to work in Slack for some odd 
reason, and yeah, I'm using bash.  Ran Debian for over two years, so I'm 
not TOO stupid. <laughs>  Thank the gods I'm running sendmail.  Best 
news I've had since January.  I wonder if there's a way to generate an 
installed  package list.

         Michael

Re: Slackware 11 aliases, anyone?

[Littlefield, tyler]

what does sendmail have to do with the aliases?
I am not sure, but source may not be your only solution.
Also, if you're getting the default aliases file back, I think bash creates 
that with other files in ~, when you start it if it's not there already.
This is at login, or after I should say, when the shell is invoked.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gaijin" <gaijin@clearwire.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2007 9:35 PM
Subject: Slackware 11 aliases, anyone?


>     Hi again all,
>
>     Well, Slack11 is working great.  The BSD init setup is strange
> after working in System V.  I have a really strange problem.  I saved a
> few of my own aliases in a file called .aliases, and then made and added
> the lines to .bashrc:
>
> echo 3 > /proc/speakup/rate
> source ~/.aliases
>
>     It didn't work, so I unaliased all of my aliases and tried again.
> That didn't work either, so I deleted every single file in the home
> directory, deleted every alias, logged out, logged vack in, and guess
> what?  The stoopid default aliases were back!  wtf?  Is Windows haunting
> my Linux drive now?  Anyone know how to get rid of the default aliases
> and add my own?  .bashrc doesn't seem to work in Slack for some odd
> reason, and yeah, I'm using bash.  Ran Debian for over two years, so I'm
> not TOO stupid. <laughs>  Thank the gods I'm running sendmail.  Best
> news I've had since January.  I wonder if there's a way to generate an
> installed  package list.
>
>         Michael
>
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Re: Slackware 11 aliases, anyone?

[Chuck Hallenbeck]

Michael,

Put those aliases in your .bash_profile (or .profile, whichever you
use) and then logout and login again and you should be good to go.

Chuck


On Sun, Jun 24, 2007 at 05:35:11AM +0100, Gaijin wrote:
>      Hi again all,
> 
>      Well, Slack11 is working great.  The BSD init setup is strange 
> after working in System V.  I have a really strange problem.  I saved a 
> few of my own aliases in a file called .aliases, and then made and added 
> the lines to .bashrc:
> 
> echo 3 > /proc/speakup/rate
> source ~/.aliases
> 
>      It didn't work, so I unaliased all of my aliases and tried again. 
> That didn't work either, so I deleted every single file in the home 
> directory, deleted every alias, logged out, logged vack in, and guess 
> what?  The stoopid default aliases were back!  wtf?  Is Windows haunting 
> my Linux drive now?  Anyone know how to get rid of the default aliases 
> and add my own?  .bashrc doesn't seem to work in Slack for some odd 
> reason, and yeah, I'm using bash.  Ran Debian for over two years, so I'm 
> not TOO stupid. <laughs>  Thank the gods I'm running sendmail.  Best 
> news I've had since January.  I wonder if there's a way to generate an 
> installed  package list.
> 
>          Michael
> 
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> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Re: Slackware 11 aliases, anyone?

[Doug Smith]

Well, he can put them into the system-wide file which is used to set
up defaults for all users, if he does not want to mess with them in
just his home directory, or if he has any aliases he uses for both his
unpriviliged account and as root.  



Hope this helps. 
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Re: Slackware 11 aliases, anyone?

[Steve Holmes]

Like Chuck said, use .profile; that's what I do.  Not sure about
.bashrc; I've heard of it but never make use of it.  About those other
aliases that keep comming back, look in your /etc directory.  Read
through /etc/profile for starters and notice the reference to
/etc/profile.d and all the .sh files inside.  Aliases can be, and are
set in one or more of those scripts.  I think most of them pertain to
the ls command and other environment variables are set in there too.
Another brief educational experience awaits you when browsing the /etc
directory.:)

On Sun, Jun 24, 2007 at 05:35:11AM +0100, Gaijin wrote:
>      Hi again all,
> 
>      Well, Slack11 is working great.  The BSD init setup is strange 
> after working in System V.  I have a really strange problem.  I saved a 
> few of my own aliases in a file called .aliases, and then made and added 
> the lines to .bashrc:
> 
> echo 3 > /proc/speakup/rate
> source ~/.aliases
> 
>      It didn't work, so I unaliased all of my aliases and tried again. 
> That didn't work either, so I deleted every single file in the home 
> directory, deleted every alias, logged out, logged vack in, and guess 
> what?  The stoopid default aliases were back!  wtf?  Is Windows haunting 
> my Linux drive now?  Anyone know how to get rid of the default aliases 
> and add my own?  .bashrc doesn't seem to work in Slack for some odd 
> reason, and yeah, I'm using bash.  Ran Debian for over two years, so I'm 
> not TOO stupid. <laughs>  Thank the gods I'm running sendmail.  Best 
> news I've had since January.  I wonder if there's a way to generate an 
> installed  package list.
> 
>          Michael
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Re: Slackware 11 aliases, anyone?

[Gaijin]

Steve Holmes wrote:
> Like Chuck said, use .profile; that's what I do.  Not sure about
> .bashrc; I've heard of it but never make use of it.

     I've always used ~/.bashrc because it was less global in nature.  I 
had my user profile and my admin profile, and didn't mix the two.  It 
was already set up that way in Debian, and I liked it.  Sometimes it was 
a hassle, but it kept me on the straight and narrow for security 
purposes.  I'd rather move things to /etc/skel and not interfere with 
how others might want to do things.  The global settings are doing that 
to me now, forcing me to keep aliases I don't want. <laughs>  Thank you 
for the info.

        Michael

Re: Slackware 11 aliases, anyone?

[Littlefield, tyler]

you can always remove them from your .bashrc file, or .aliases, what ever 
your using.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gaijin" <gaijin@clearwire.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2007 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: Slackware 11 aliases, anyone?


> Steve Holmes wrote:
>> Like Chuck said, use .profile; that's what I do.  Not sure about
>> .bashrc; I've heard of it but never make use of it.
>
>     I've always used ~/.bashrc because it was less global in nature.  I
> had my user profile and my admin profile, and didn't mix the two.  It
> was already set up that way in Debian, and I liked it.  Sometimes it was
> a hassle, but it kept me on the straight and narrow for security
> purposes.  I'd rather move things to /etc/skel and not interfere with
> how others might want to do things.  The global settings are doing that
> to me now, forcing me to keep aliases I don't want. <laughs>  Thank you
> for the info.
>
>        Michael
>
>
>
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Re: Slackware 11 aliases, anyone?

[Gregory Nowak]

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You've mentioned being used to debian twice now, though you're using
slackware. You are aware of the fact that there is an unofficial
netinst iso for debian which includes speakup, right? I'm not trying
to convert you back to debian or anything, but I thought I'd mention
that, in case you were under the impression that slackware is the only
distro containing speakup.

Greg


On Sun, Jun 24, 2007 at 06:45:27PM +0100, Gaijin wrote:
>      I've always used ~/.bashrc because it was less global in nature.  I 
> had my user profile and my admin profile, and didn't mix the two.  It 
> was already set up that way in Debian, and I liked it.  Sometimes it was 
> a hassle, but it kept me on the straight and narrow for security 
> purposes.  I'd rather move things to /etc/skel and not interfere with 
> how others might want to do things.  The global settings are doing that 
> to me now, forcing me to keep aliases I don't want. <laughs>  Thank you 
> for the info.
> 
>         Michael
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Slackware 11 aliases, anyone?

[Gaijin]

Gregory Nowak wrote:
> You've mentioned being used to debian twice now, though you're using
> slackware

     Yep.  I even have the floppy images from debian.org.  I'm trying to 
get away from package managers, and doing things like gentoo (sp?). 
Scratch installations from post-compiled source.  I'm just not ready to 
give up on some package management support yet.  I've always planned on 
porting to Slackware.  Going blind sorta pushed me into the comversion 
before I anticipated it, since Slack has some pretty good SpeakUp support.

         Michael

Re: Slackware 11 aliases, anyone?

[Doug Smith]

I use a combination of package management functionality such as apt
tools with the wajig front end.  and building straight from source.
It is a good thing to be able to do both as sometimes, I find it
necessary to switch back and forth between the two.  




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Re: Slackware 11 aliases, anyone?

[Doug Smith]

Well, if you are looking for a good distro that includes speakup, try
grml: 

http://www.grml.org

I use it and I really like it.  It has almost all command line packages
you might want, and, if you want to, you can install additional
packages such as gui packages for family members and more.  



Hope this helps. 
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Computer Scientist For CHRIST

Re: Slackware 11 aliases, anyone?

[Doug Sutherland]

You can list the installed packages in slackware using pkgtool, 
select the view mode, it's called view the list of files contained 
in a package, but it first just lists the packages.

  -- Doug

Re: Slackware 11 aliases, anyone?

[Gaijin]

Doug Sutherland wrote:
> You can list the installed packages in slackware using pkgtool,

     Thanks, Doug.  Just saw that in SlackBook while pouring over all 
the docs I could find.  Was looking for something similar to 'dpkg -l > 
packages.txt' in Debian.  Want to do a diff on my old Devian package 
listing.  Try to match some of the packages I liked, and to rewind 
myself of what I used to have.  Thanks,

         Michael

Re: Slackware 11 aliases, anyone?

[Gregory Nowak]

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On Sun, Jun 24, 2007 at 07:00:03PM +0100, Gaijin wrote:
> Want to do a diff on my old Devian package 
> listing.  Try to match some of the packages I liked, and to rewind 
> myself of what I used to have.  Thanks,
> 

There is a good chance you'll need to do quite a bit of compiling from
source. Slackware's binary package collection is much, much smaller
then debian's.

Greg



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