off-toopic: paypal.com

off-toopic: paypal.com

[Cheryl Homiak]

I tried to post this with the actual message I got from Paypal before but
the application must have been with it and
it was too big.
Has anybody else gotten a letter from paypal saying their account will
expire in five days and it's necessary to use the attached application to
re-enroll/update their account?
I'm wondering (a) if it's legitimate, and (b) if there's any way for us to
do this (it's a .asp.scr application).
I also have had problems because when I log in to paypal in lynx the
cat lately I'm asked to
resubmit a user agreement and when I submit it I'm told that I've used
some non-us characters, even though I am only hitting a submit button and
not entering anything. I submitted it in links the chain and now I don't
get this
when I use links the chain, but lynx the cat still does this each time I
go to use it.
Other than getting the .wav file with characters to be entered to work
when registering,
Paypal has up to now been mostly accessible, so I'm not too happy with the
problems with the agreement and now this application we are supposed to
use. Actually, I'm quite  suspicious of the latter.
The email is one of those automated do-not-reply things, so I'll have to
find a customer service email to write to, but thought somebody onlist
might already know something about this.
thanks.
-- Cheryl

Re: off-toopic: paypal.com

[Luke Davis]

That is absurd.  If you had to do something to keep your account from
expiring (which is something PayPal doesn't do, anyway), they would do it
through their web site, and never in this manner.

It's a scam.

Luke

 On Fri, 14 Nov 2003,
Cheryl Homiak wrote:

> I tried to post this with the actual message I got from Paypal before but
> the application must have been with it and
> it was too big.
> Has anybody else gotten a letter from paypal saying their account will
> expire in five days and it's necessary to use the attached application to
> re-enroll/update their account?
> I'm wondering (a) if it's legitimate, and (b) if there's any way for us to
> do this (it's a .asp.scr application).
> I also have had problems because when I log in to paypal in lynx the
> cat lately I'm asked to
> resubmit a user agreement and when I submit it I'm told that I've used
> some non-us characters, even though I am only hitting a submit button and
> not entering anything. I submitted it in links the chain and now I don't
> get this
> when I use links the chain, but lynx the cat still does this each time I
> go to use it.
> Other than getting the .wav file with characters to be entered to work
> when registering,
> Paypal has up to now been mostly accessible, so I'm not too happy with the
> problems with the agreement and now this application we are supposed to
> use. Actually, I'm quite  suspicious of the latter.
> The email is one of those automated do-not-reply things, so I'll have to
> find a customer service email to write to, but thought somebody onlist
> might already know something about this.
> thanks.
> -- Cheryl
>
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Re: off-toopic: paypal.com

[Adam Myrow]

Sounds like a virus to me.  anything that asks you to run an attached
program should raise a red flag.

Re: off-toopic: paypal.com

[Cheryl Homiak]

Yep, before when I typed the name of the file into google, I didn't get
anything. but I found info on it when I typed in "paypal hoax" just now.
Funny, I laughed when I saw an ebay hoax like this a few days ago; I guess
I reacted with more attention to this one because of the problems I'd had
with the user agreement and because I was thinking about the accessibility
problems I've had with shopping websites recently and my first thought was
"Oh No!" But this was obviously totally suspect.
When the hoaxes and viruses masqueraded as warnings about windows
viruses, it was pretty obvious; now they're getting cleverer, or at least a
lot more diverse, with the subject lines. I guess the rule is:
never execute any kind of attachment or hit on any url within an email
unless you have reason to be really sure about it.
anyway, I should have known better than to give this one a second
glance--sorry about that!


-- 
Cheryl

Re: off-toopic: paypal.com

[Alex Snow]

my favorite was the email from microsoft security (?) that said 
something about you having to install the atached update. that was 
just a waist of time since I don't open anything from microsoft 
anyways. and I didn't know there was such thing as microsoft security.
On 
Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 08:30:34PM -0600, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
> Yep, before when I typed the name of the file into google, I didn't get
> anything. but I found info on it when I typed in "paypal hoax" just now.
> Funny, I laughed when I saw an ebay hoax like this a few days ago; I guess
> I reacted with more attention to this one because of the problems I'd had
> with the user agreement and because I was thinking about the accessibility
> problems I've had with shopping websites recently and my first thought was
> "Oh No!" But this was obviously totally suspect.
> When the hoaxes and viruses masqueraded as warnings about windows
> viruses, it was pretty obvious; now they're getting cleverer, or at least a
> lot more diverse, with the subject lines. I guess the rule is:
> never execute any kind of attachment or hit on any url within an email
> unless you have reason to be really sure about it.
> anyway, I should have known better than to give this one a second
> glance--sorry about that!
> 
> 
> -- 
> Cheryl
> 
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Re: off-toopic: paypal.com

[Buddy Brannan]

No it isn't, don't run the attachment, do not pass go, do not collect
$200. Someone wants your password, or your Email, or your soul, or to
give you a virus. Maybe all of them. But it ain't from Paypal! 
-- 
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Email: davros@ycardz.com   | in the cradle of your grace,
ICQ: 36621210              | And the shining beaches of your love,
http://www.ycardz.com      | and the sea of your embrace.--Dave Carter

Re: off-toopic: paypal.com

[Alex Snow]

virus. you can tell bc it's a screensaver. why would someone send out 
a program with the extension of a screensaver? 
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 
at 06:00:38PM -0600, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
> I tried to post this with the actual message I got from Paypal before but
> the application must have been with it and
> it was too big.
> Has anybody else gotten a letter from paypal saying their account will
> expire in five days and it's necessary to use the attached application to
> re-enroll/update their account?
> I'm wondering (a) if it's legitimate, and (b) if there's any way for us to
> do this (it's a .asp.scr application).
> I also have had problems because when I log in to paypal in lynx the
> cat lately I'm asked to
> resubmit a user agreement and when I submit it I'm told that I've used
> some non-us characters, even though I am only hitting a submit button and
> not entering anything. I submitted it in links the chain and now I don't
> get this
> when I use links the chain, but lynx the cat still does this each time I
> go to use it.
> Other than getting the .wav file with characters to be entered to work
> when registering,
> Paypal has up to now been mostly accessible, so I'm not too happy with the
> problems with the agreement and now this application we are supposed to
> use. Actually, I'm quite  suspicious of the latter.
> The email is one of those automated do-not-reply things, so I'll have to
> find a customer service email to write to, but thought somebody onlist
> might already know something about this.
> thanks.
> -- Cheryl
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Re: off-toopic: paypal.com

[Cheryl Homiak]

No, obviously not. This has not been a very good day and obviously my
brain was on vacation!


-- 
Cheryl

Re: off-toopic: paypal.com

[Aaron Cannon]

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All I can do is add to what others have said.  Don't run it.  Paypal would 
never do this because if they did, they would be alienating their smarter 
(I.E. non-windows running) customers. <g>  They would, at the very least, 
give you a good reason for your account being deactivated and point you to 
an address on their site where you would be able to rectify the 
problem.  If you scan the file with a virus scanning program, you will 
probably find out something interesting.  Maybe not though.  Let us know if 
you do.

At 05:00 PM 11/14/03, Cheryl Homiak wrote:

>I tried to post this with the actual message I got from Paypal before but
>the application must have been with it and
>it was too big.
>Has anybody else gotten a letter from paypal saying their account will
>expire in five days and it's necessary to use the attached application to
>re-enroll/update their account?
>I'm wondering (a) if it's legitimate, and (b) if there's any way for us to
>do this (it's a .asp.scr application).
>I also have had problems because when I log in to paypal in lynx the
>cat lately I'm asked to
>resubmit a user agreement and when I submit it I'm told that I've used
>some non-us characters, even though I am only hitting a submit button and
>not entering anything. I submitted it in links the chain and now I don't
>get this
>when I use links the chain, but lynx the cat still does this each time I
>go to use it.
>Other than getting the .wav file with characters to be entered to work
>when registering,
>Paypal has up to now been mostly accessible, so I'm not too happy with the
>problems with the agreement and now this application we are supposed to
>use. Actually, I'm quite  suspicious of the latter.
>The email is one of those automated do-not-reply things, so I'll have to
>find a customer service email to write to, but thought somebody onlist
>might already know something about this.
>thanks.
>-- Cheryl
>
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RE: off-toopic: paypal.com

[Sina Bahram]

If I may offer my humble opinion. A .scr file is a windows screen saver
file. I'm not sure of its linux or unix specification; however, I would
definitely follow along on your contacting a customer service rep, as it
doesn't seem ligit.

Take care,
Sina

No trees were destroyed in sending this message. However, a large number
of electrons were terribly inconvenienced. 

-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Cheryl Homiak
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 7:01 PM
To: speakup
Subject: off-toopic: paypal.com


I tried to post this with the actual message I got from Paypal before
but the application must have been with it and it was too big. Has
anybody else gotten a letter from paypal saying their account will
expire in five days and it's necessary to use the attached application
to re-enroll/update their account? I'm wondering (a) if it's legitimate,
and (b) if there's any way for us to do this (it's a .asp.scr
application). I also have had problems because when I log in to paypal
in lynx the cat lately I'm asked to resubmit a user agreement and when I
submit it I'm told that I've used some non-us characters, even though I
am only hitting a submit button and not entering anything. I submitted
it in links the chain and now I don't get this when I use links the
chain, but lynx the cat still does this each time I go to use it. Other
than getting the .wav file with characters to be entered to work when
registering, Paypal has up to now been mostly accessible, so I'm not too
happy with the problems with the agreement and now this application we
are supposed to use. Actually, I'm quite  suspicious of the latter. The
email is one of those automated do-not-reply things, so I'll have to
find a customer service email to write to, but thought somebody onlist
might already know something about this. thanks.
-- Cheryl

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Re: off-toopic: paypal.com

[Joseph C. Lininger]

Do not under any circumstances open that. It's a trap. Judging by the
extention, it looks like a virus posing as a screen saver for windows.
---
Joseph C. Lininger
jbahm@pcdesk.net
>From the "Joe Wonders" department:
If a mnemonic device is supposed to help people remember things, why is it
that no one can spell the word, pronounce the word, or even remember what
the word means?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Cheryl Homiak" <chomiak@chartermi.net>
To: "speakup" <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 5:00 PM
Subject: off-toopic: paypal.com


> I tried to post this with the actual message I got from Paypal before but
> the application must have been with it and
> it was too big.
> Has anybody else gotten a letter from paypal saying their account will
> expire in five days and it's necessary to use the attached application to
> re-enroll/update their account?
> I'm wondering (a) if it's legitimate, and (b) if there's any way for us to
> do this (it's a .asp.scr application).
> I also have had problems because when I log in to paypal in lynx the
> cat lately I'm asked to
> resubmit a user agreement and when I submit it I'm told that I've used
> some non-us characters, even though I am only hitting a submit button and
> not entering anything. I submitted it in links the chain and now I don't
> get this
> when I use links the chain, but lynx the cat still does this each time I
> go to use it.
> Other than getting the .wav file with characters to be entered to work
> when registering,
> Paypal has up to now been mostly accessible, so I'm not too happy with the
> problems with the agreement and now this application we are supposed to
> use. Actually, I'm quite  suspicious of the latter.
> The email is one of those automated do-not-reply things, so I'll have to
> find a customer service email to write to, but thought somebody onlist
> might already know something about this.
> thanks.
> -- Cheryl
>
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