* Try again a few years later
@ Andrew Hodgson
` Alex Snow
` (2 more replies)
0 siblings, 3 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Hodgson @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: speakup
Hi,
Well here I am again, still with my Linux machine which I installed a
few years ago and connect to via SSH, but no working Speakup install!!
I want to get a speakup install working, also want to try out the GUI
applications if possible. I know some aspects of the command line as I
use it to maintain the server I configured here, but hope I can learn a
lot more with Speakup.
Our local LUG seem to use the Mandrake distribution, which is very
graphically oriented. I am either going to go with Debian or Fedora.
Any thoughts on which is easiest to install?
Thanks,
Andrew.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread* Re: Try again a few years later
Try again a few years later Andrew Hodgson
@ ` Alex Snow
` Farhan
` Sean McMahon
` Lorenzo Taylor
2 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Alex Snow @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
I found debian an easier install then fedora. The main reason I liked
the debian install better was that one only needs one cd-rom or I
think 2 floppies to do the install (the rest can be done over the
internet) as opposed to fedora requiring 3 cds.
On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at
10:37:21PM -0000, Andrew Hodgson wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Well here I am again, still with my Linux machine which I installed a
> few years ago and connect to via SSH, but no working Speakup install!!
> I want to get a speakup install working, also want to try out the GUI
> applications if possible. I know some aspects of the command line as I
> use it to maintain the server I configured here, but hope I can learn a
> lot more with Speakup.
>
> Our local LUG seem to use the Mandrake distribution, which is very
> graphically oriented. I am either going to go with Debian or Fedora.
> Any thoughts on which is easiest to install?
>
> Thanks,
> Andrew.
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
--
+#if defined(__alpha__) && defined(CONFIG_PCI)
+ /*
+ * The meaning of life, the universe, and everything. Plus
+ * this makes the year come out right.
+ */
+ year -= 42;
+#endif
-- From the patch for 1.3.2: (kernel/time.c), submitted by Marcus Meissner
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 15+ messages in thread* RE: Try again a few years later
` Alex Snow
@ ` Farhan
` jim grimsby
0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Farhan @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'
I've been trying to install fedora and it hurts me and makes me want to cry.
Seriously though. when I do autopartition I select what drive I want and it
gives me 3 partitions after auto. So I'm stuck. lol
-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Alex Snow
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 5:38 PM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: Try again a few years later
I found debian an easier install then fedora. The main reason I liked the
debian install better was that one only needs one cd-rom or I think 2
floppies to do the install (the rest can be done over the
internet) as opposed to fedora requiring 3 cds.
On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at
10:37:21PM -0000, Andrew Hodgson wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Well here I am again, still with my Linux machine which I installed a
> few years ago and connect to via SSH, but no working Speakup install!!
> I want to get a speakup install working, also want to try out the GUI
> applications if possible. I know some aspects of the command line as I
> use it to maintain the server I configured here, but hope I can learn a
> lot more with Speakup.
>
> Our local LUG seem to use the Mandrake distribution, which is very
> graphically oriented. I am either going to go with Debian or Fedora.
> Any thoughts on which is easiest to install?
>
> Thanks,
> Andrew.
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
--
+#if defined(__alpha__) && defined(CONFIG_PCI)
+ /*
+ * The meaning of life, the universe, and everything. Plus
+ * this makes the year come out right.
+ */
+ year -= 42;
+#endif
-- From the patch for 1.3.2: (kernel/time.c), submitted by Marcus
Meissner
_______________________________________________
Speakup mailing list
Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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` Farhan
@ ` jim grimsby
0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: jim grimsby @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'
Hi, it should give you a swap partition a boot partition and a large
partition for your files this is how auto works using disk drew it. If I
read the docs right this is normal and correct behavior for disk drew it.
-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Farhan
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 3:59 PM
To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'
Subject: RE: Try again a few years later
I've been trying to install fedora and it hurts me and makes me want to cry.
Seriously though. when I do autopartition I select what drive I want and it
gives me 3 partitions after auto. So I'm stuck. lol
-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Alex Snow
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 5:38 PM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: Try again a few years later
I found debian an easier install then fedora. The main reason I liked the
debian install better was that one only needs one cd-rom or I think 2
floppies to do the install (the rest can be done over the
internet) as opposed to fedora requiring 3 cds.
On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at
10:37:21PM -0000, Andrew Hodgson wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Well here I am again, still with my Linux machine which I installed a
> few years ago and connect to via SSH, but no working Speakup install!!
> I want to get a speakup install working, also want to try out the GUI
> applications if possible. I know some aspects of the command line as
> I use it to maintain the server I configured here, but hope I can
> learn a lot more with Speakup.
>
> Our local LUG seem to use the Mandrake distribution, which is very
> graphically oriented. I am either going to go with Debian or Fedora.
> Any thoughts on which is easiest to install?
>
> Thanks,
> Andrew.
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
--
+#if defined(__alpha__) && defined(CONFIG_PCI)
+ /*
+ * The meaning of life, the universe, and everything. Plus
+ * this makes the year come out right.
+ */
+ year -= 42;
+#endif
-- From the patch for 1.3.2: (kernel/time.c), submitted by Marcus
Meissner
_______________________________________________
Speakup mailing list
Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
_______________________________________________
Speakup mailing list
Speakup@braille.uwo.ca http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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* Re: Try again a few years later
Try again a few years later Andrew Hodgson
` Alex Snow
@ ` Sean McMahon
` Lorenzo Taylor
2 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Sean McMahon @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
If you want the 2.6 kernel or need it, right out of the box, Fedora will be
easiest for you. There's a good howto. I personally use debian, it's package
management with apt is as easy as yum, there's a kernel package builder you can
install if you wish to make your own kernel, the speakup kernel is available as
a package for 2.4 kernels, and there's good documentation. Some differences,
the debian speakup kernel assumes everything speakup related is built-in. You
install debian from the iso image or floppys, and select the speakup kernel. If
you want talking on bootup, insert the apropriate synth line in your boot loader
configuration file.With Fedora you will also have to configure your boot loader
I assume, but you will also have to make a ramdisk, something which is explained
in the howto. The Fedora distro you will have to install by burning a few iso
images, Debian you may install using a network install if you have a network
available to you. The Fedora speakup kernel is as I said before, a later
version and is more modular. I'm told the 2.6 kernel has better support for cd
burning? If you have less then a few gigs of space, Debian may suit your needs
better. Both distros are good.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@hodgsonfamily.org>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 3:37 PM
Subject: Try again a few years later
Hi,
Well here I am again, still with my Linux machine which I installed a
few years ago and connect to via SSH, but no working Speakup install!!
I want to get a speakup install working, also want to try out the GUI
applications if possible. I know some aspects of the command line as I
use it to maintain the server I configured here, but hope I can learn a
lot more with Speakup.
Our local LUG seem to use the Mandrake distribution, which is very
graphically oriented. I am either going to go with Debian or Fedora.
Any thoughts on which is easiest to install?
Thanks,
Andrew.
_______________________________________________
Speakup mailing list
Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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* Re: Try again a few years later
Try again a few years later Andrew Hodgson
` Alex Snow
` Sean McMahon
@ ` Lorenzo Taylor
2 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Lorenzo Taylor @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
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Both Debian and Fedora have Speakup modified versions available, and both are
very good distros. It all depends on what you nees. If you want a simple
install without having to install packages as you go, a Fedora install of
everything is definitely what you want. If you want a simple base install and
then you want to install packages as you need them, and you want to be able to
easily install more prebuilt packages than any other distro, I recommend Debian.
I have personally used both, and find them to be quite good. It is ultimately
your decision which distro you feel best suits your needs.
Sorry for the vague answer, but it is better to make an informed decision about
a Linux distro yourself than to have someone tell you "use Fedora" or "use Debian".
Lorenzo
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* RE: Try again a few years later
@ Andrew Hodgson
` Adam Myrow
` Alex Snow
0 siblings, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Hodgson @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Hi,
Yes, it is really a good idea to have another partition here for /home -
this is what I have here. Also, should we put /etc in a different
partition?
Andrew.
-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of jim grimsby
Sent: 04 March 2005 05:57
To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'
Subject: RE: Try again a few years later
Hi, it should give you a swap partition a boot partition and a large
partition for your files this is how auto works using disk drew it. If
I read the docs right this is normal and correct behavior for disk drew
it.
-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Farhan
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 3:59 PM
To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'
Subject: RE: Try again a few years later
I've been trying to install fedora and it hurts me and makes me want to
cry.
Seriously though. when I do autopartition I select what drive I want
and it gives me 3 partitions after auto. So I'm stuck. lol
-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
On Behalf Of Alex Snow
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 5:38 PM
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: Try again a few years later
I found debian an easier install then fedora. The main reason I liked
the debian install better was that one only needs one cd-rom or I think
2 floppies to do the install (the rest can be done over the
internet) as opposed to fedora requiring 3 cds.
On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at
10:37:21PM -0000, Andrew Hodgson wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Well here I am again, still with my Linux machine which I installed a
> few years ago and connect to via SSH, but no working Speakup install!!
> I want to get a speakup install working, also want to try out the GUI
> applications if possible. I know some aspects of the command line as
> I use it to maintain the server I configured here, but hope I can
> learn a lot more with Speakup.
>
> Our local LUG seem to use the Mandrake distribution, which is very
> graphically oriented. I am either going to go with Debian or Fedora.
> Any thoughts on which is easiest to install?
>
> Thanks,
> Andrew.
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
--
+#if defined(__alpha__) && defined(CONFIG_PCI)
+ /*
+ * The meaning of life, the universe, and everything. Plus
+ * this makes the year come out right.
+ */
+ year -= 42;
+#endif
-- From the patch for 1.3.2: (kernel/time.c), submitted by
Marcus
Meissner
_______________________________________________
Speakup mailing list
Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
_______________________________________________
Speakup mailing list
Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
_______________________________________________
Speakup mailing list
Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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* RE: Try again a few years later
Andrew Hodgson
@ ` Adam Myrow
` Alex Snow
1 sibling, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Adam Myrow @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
On Fri, 4 Mar 2005, Andrew Hodgson wrote:
> this is what I have here. Also, should we put /etc in a different
> partition?
Under absolutely no circumstance should you put /etc in its own partition!
This is because /etc is required for boot, to read /etc/fstab, and startup
scripts. /etc/fstab tells what partitions are to be mounted where. If
/etc were on its own partition, it would be impossible to read /etc/fstab,
and the system wouldn't boot. That's a simplified explanation.
Actually, there are a *lot* of required files in /etc. Basically, /etc,
/root, /bin, and /sbin should always be part of the root partition.
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* Re: Try again a few years later
Andrew Hodgson
` Adam Myrow
@ ` Alex Snow
1 sibling, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Alex Snow @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
no you always want /bin, /dev, /sbin, /lib on your / partition.
On Fri,
Mar 04, 2005 at 06:24:21PM -0000, Andrew Hodgson wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Yes, it is really a good idea to have another partition here for /home -
> this is what I have here. Also, should we put /etc in a different
> partition?
>
> Andrew.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of jim grimsby
> Sent: 04 March 2005 05:57
> To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'
> Subject: RE: Try again a few years later
>
> Hi, it should give you a swap partition a boot partition and a large
> partition for your files this is how auto works using disk drew it. If
> I read the docs right this is normal and correct behavior for disk drew
> it.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of Farhan
> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 3:59 PM
> To: 'Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.'
> Subject: RE: Try again a few years later
>
>
> I've been trying to install fedora and it hurts me and makes me want to
> cry.
> Seriously though. when I do autopartition I select what drive I want
> and it gives me 3 partitions after auto. So I'm stuck. lol
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca]
> On Behalf Of Alex Snow
> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 5:38 PM
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: Try again a few years later
>
> I found debian an easier install then fedora. The main reason I liked
> the debian install better was that one only needs one cd-rom or I think
> 2 floppies to do the install (the rest can be done over the
> internet) as opposed to fedora requiring 3 cds.
> On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at
> 10:37:21PM -0000, Andrew Hodgson wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Well here I am again, still with my Linux machine which I installed a
> > few years ago and connect to via SSH, but no working Speakup install!!
> > I want to get a speakup install working, also want to try out the GUI
> > applications if possible. I know some aspects of the command line as
> > I use it to maintain the server I configured here, but hope I can
> > learn a lot more with Speakup.
> >
> > Our local LUG seem to use the Mandrake distribution, which is very
> > graphically oriented. I am either going to go with Debian or Fedora.
> > Any thoughts on which is easiest to install?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Andrew.
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
> --
> +#if defined(__alpha__) && defined(CONFIG_PCI)
> + /*
> + * The meaning of life, the universe, and everything. Plus
> + * this makes the year come out right.
> + */
> + year -= 42;
> +#endif
> -- From the patch for 1.3.2: (kernel/time.c), submitted by
> Marcus
> Meissner
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
--
Vini, vidi, Linux!
-- Unknown source
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* RE: Try again a few years later
@ Andrew Hodgson
` Alex Snow
0 siblings, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Hodgson @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sean McMahon, Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Hi,
With respect to getting a talking GUI up and running what is a good
choice? The Fedora packages a screen reader with the GUI.
Andrew.
-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Sean McMahon
Sent: 03 March 2005 23:59
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: Re: Try again a few years later
If you want the 2.6 kernel or need it, right out of the box, Fedora will
be easiest for you. There's a good howto. I personally use debian,
it's package management with apt is as easy as yum, there's a kernel
package builder you can install if you wish to make your own kernel, the
speakup kernel is available as a package for 2.4 kernels, and there's
good documentation. Some differences, the debian speakup kernel assumes
everything speakup related is built-in. You install debian from the iso
image or floppys, and select the speakup kernel. If you want talking on
bootup, insert the apropriate synth line in your boot loader
configuration file.With Fedora you will also have to configure your boot
loader I assume, but you will also have to make a ramdisk, something
which is explained in the howto. The Fedora distro you will have to
install by burning a few iso images, Debian you may install using a
network install if you have a network available to you. The Fedora
speakup kernel is as I said before, a later version and is more modular.
I'm told the 2.6 kernel has better support for cd burning? If you have
less then a few gigs of space, Debian may suit your needs better. Both
distros are good.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@hodgsonfamily.org>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 3:37 PM
Subject: Try again a few years later
Hi,
Well here I am again, still with my Linux machine which I installed a
few years ago and connect to via SSH, but no working Speakup install!!
I want to get a speakup install working, also want to try out the GUI
applications if possible. I know some aspects of the command line as I
use it to maintain the server I configured here, but hope I can learn a
lot more with Speakup.
Our local LUG seem to use the Mandrake distribution, which is very
graphically oriented. I am either going to go with Debian or Fedora.
Any thoughts on which is easiest to install?
Thanks,
Andrew.
_______________________________________________
Speakup mailing list
Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
_______________________________________________
Speakup mailing list
Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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* Re: Try again a few years later
Andrew Hodgson
@ ` Alex Snow
0 siblings, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Alex Snow @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
debian packages a screenreader with gnome also. It's part of the gnome
release so any distro that uses the stock gnome stuff should come with
it.
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 06:28:57PM -0000, Andrew Hodgson wrote:
> Hi,
>
> With respect to getting a talking GUI up and running what is a good
> choice? The Fedora packages a screen reader with the GUI.
>
> Andrew.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
> [mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Sean McMahon
> Sent: 03 March 2005 23:59
> To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
> Subject: Re: Try again a few years later
>
> If you want the 2.6 kernel or need it, right out of the box, Fedora will
> be easiest for you. There's a good howto. I personally use debian,
> it's package management with apt is as easy as yum, there's a kernel
> package builder you can install if you wish to make your own kernel, the
> speakup kernel is available as a package for 2.4 kernels, and there's
> good documentation. Some differences, the debian speakup kernel assumes
> everything speakup related is built-in. You install debian from the iso
> image or floppys, and select the speakup kernel. If you want talking on
> bootup, insert the apropriate synth line in your boot loader
> configuration file.With Fedora you will also have to configure your boot
> loader I assume, but you will also have to make a ramdisk, something
> which is explained in the howto. The Fedora distro you will have to
> install by burning a few iso images, Debian you may install using a
> network install if you have a network available to you. The Fedora
> speakup kernel is as I said before, a later version and is more modular.
> I'm told the 2.6 kernel has better support for cd burning? If you have
> less then a few gigs of space, Debian may suit your needs better. Both
> distros are good.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@hodgsonfamily.org>
> To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 3:37 PM
> Subject: Try again a few years later
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Well here I am again, still with my Linux machine which I installed a
> few years ago and connect to via SSH, but no working Speakup install!!
> I want to get a speakup install working, also want to try out the GUI
> applications if possible. I know some aspects of the command line as I
> use it to maintain the server I configured here, but hope I can learn a
> lot more with Speakup.
>
> Our local LUG seem to use the Mandrake distribution, which is very
> graphically oriented. I am either going to go with Debian or Fedora.
> Any thoughts on which is easiest to install?
>
> Thanks,
> Andrew.
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
--
A Linux machine! Because a 486 is a terrible thing to waste!
-- Joe Sloan, jjs@wintermute.ucr.edu
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* RE: Try again a few years later
@ Andrew Hodgson
` Adam Myrow
` Sean McMahon
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From: Andrew Hodgson @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Hi,
Ah, I actually remember making that mistake when I did the installation
of my current system back in 2003. As you said, complete failure on my
part.
If you don't mind me asking, what sizes do you give your partitions?
I have a boot partition of I think around 20/25 mb, a swap of 64mb and
the rest is given over to the rest of the disk for general file system
usage. I did try to create more but got issues, and since I don't keep
much in /home which can't be backed up in the event of an upgrade, I
didn't mind. As I am going to start over with a new system, what dod
you suggest?
Thanks.
Andrew.
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From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Adam Myrow
Sent: 04 March 2005 20:48
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: RE: Try again a few years later
On Fri, 4 Mar 2005, Andrew Hodgson wrote:
> this is what I have here. Also, should we put /etc in a different
> partition?
Under absolutely no circumstance should you put /etc in its own
partition!
This is because /etc is required for boot, to read /etc/fstab, and
startup scripts. /etc/fstab tells what partitions are to be mounted
where. If /etc were on its own partition, it would be impossible to
read /etc/fstab, and the system wouldn't boot. That's a simplified
explanation.
Actually, there are a *lot* of required files in /etc. Basically, /etc,
/root, /bin, and /sbin should always be part of the root partition.
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* RE: Try again a few years later
Andrew Hodgson
@ ` Adam Myrow
` Gregory Nowak
` Sean McMahon
1 sibling, 1 reply; 15+ messages in thread
From: Adam Myrow @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
I'd say that it really depends on what you are doing. If you know you
will be storing a lot of stuff in /home, make it big. Otherwise, make it
small. For me, personally, I like to have a very large /usr/local
partition, because I compile a lot of stuff. I chose Slackware, and it
doesn't offer a lot of pre-built packages compared to other distributions.
My main reason for sticking with Slackware is the Speakup support out of
the box, and the simple installer. I also like learning how things work,
and with Slackware, you get to do a lot of that. If you don't plan on
compiling a lot of programs yourself, then either have no /usr/local
partition, or a smaller one. Or, you could just put everything on one big
partition, and have another for swap. It's mostly a matter of personal
taste.
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` Adam Myrow
@ ` Gregory Nowak
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From: Gregory Nowak @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
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One more thing I like about slackware is its /etc/rc.d structure,
where you have one large file doing many things, instead of having a
bunch of smaller files that you stop and start mainly in /etc/init.d
like you have in most other distros. This is only personal preference,
and there are many other people who like the way of doing things in
/etc/init.d.
Greg
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 04:31:27PM -0600, Adam Myrow wrote:
> I'd say that it really depends on what you are doing. If you know you
> will be storing a lot of stuff in /home, make it big. Otherwise, make it
> small. For me, personally, I like to have a very large /usr/local
> partition, because I compile a lot of stuff. I chose Slackware, and it
> doesn't offer a lot of pre-built packages compared to other distributions.
> My main reason for sticking with Slackware is the Speakup support out of
> the box, and the simple installer. I also like learning how things work,
> and with Slackware, you get to do a lot of that. If you don't plan on
> compiling a lot of programs yourself, then either have no /usr/local
> partition, or a smaller one. Or, you could just put everything on one big
> partition, and have another for swap. It's mostly a matter of personal
> taste.
>
>
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* Re: Try again a few years later
Andrew Hodgson
` Adam Myrow
@ ` Sean McMahon
1 sibling, 0 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Sean McMahon @ UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Sorry if this has already been answered. The Debian installation manual
recommends twice the ram for your swap partician. In other words, 100 MB of ram
means you should have 200 MB of swap
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@hodgsonfamily.org>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2005 3:09 PM
Subject: RE: Try again a few years later
Hi,
Ah, I actually remember making that mistake when I did the installation
of my current system back in 2003. As you said, complete failure on my
part.
If you don't mind me asking, what sizes do you give your partitions?
I have a boot partition of I think around 20/25 mb, a swap of 64mb and
the rest is given over to the rest of the disk for general file system
usage. I did try to create more but got issues, and since I don't keep
much in /home which can't be backed up in the event of an upgrade, I
didn't mind. As I am going to start over with a new system, what dod
you suggest?
Thanks.
Andrew.
-----Original Message-----
From: speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca
[mailto:speakup-bounces@braille.uwo.ca] On Behalf Of Adam Myrow
Sent: 04 March 2005 20:48
To: Speakup is a screen review system for Linux.
Subject: RE: Try again a few years later
On Fri, 4 Mar 2005, Andrew Hodgson wrote:
> this is what I have here. Also, should we put /etc in a different
> partition?
Under absolutely no circumstance should you put /etc in its own
partition!
This is because /etc is required for boot, to read /etc/fstab, and
startup scripts. /etc/fstab tells what partitions are to be mounted
where. If /etc were on its own partition, it would be impossible to
read /etc/fstab, and the system wouldn't boot. That's a simplified
explanation.
Actually, there are a *lot* of required files in /etc. Basically, /etc,
/root, /bin, and /sbin should always be part of the root partition.
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Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
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