tettnang problematical.

tettnang problematical.

[Jude DaShiell]

Bad disks that don't burn correctly are often the result of downloads even 
after rsync has been used.  I was able to get disc1 and disc2 to burn 
properly consistently but never did get disc3 or disc4 to burn without 
errors and I used an automated script to do the burns myself I had rolled. 
If all you can get good from the site is fedora-core-1 yarrow I don't 
advise attempting an upgrade from that version to current.  I tried that 
and got four programs in unresolveable dependency chains so I decide to 
try installing what disks I can without running into the error again on 
disc 3.  I figured I could make an initrd at the error condition; then 
reboot, then later do yum install *.  Wrong.  I couldn't get the ethernet 
up and connected on the internet.  The fedora installation doesn't mark a 
package as a needed install  when it encounters a disk error, it just 
hangs on the error program and offers no means to skip  a defective 
program and go onto another program and mark the error program yum could 
take a script once connection were established and  download the missing 
packages.

Re: tettnang problematical.

[Willem van der Walt<willem@top.health.gov.za>]

hi,
I always use wget to retrieve the isos with and i never had problems.
Here in South Africa we have some times lines that drop etc.
I have downloaded the fedora modified for speakup disks with no problems.


On Fri, 2 Jul 2004, Jude DaShiell wrote:

> Bad disks that don't burn correctly are often the result of downloads even 
> after rsync has been used.  I was able to get disc1 and disc2 to burn 
> properly consistently but never did get disc3 or disc4 to burn without errors 
> and I used an automated script to do the burns myself I had rolled. If all 
> you can get good from the site is fedora-core-1 yarrow I don't advise 
> attempting an upgrade from that version to current.  I tried that and got 
> four programs in unresolveable dependency chains so I decide to try 
> installing what disks I can without running into the error again on disc 3. 
> I figured I could make an initrd at the error condition; then reboot, then 
> later do yum install *.  Wrong.  I couldn't get the ethernet up and connected 
> on the internet.  The fedora installation doesn't mark a package as a needed 
> install  when it encounters a disk error, it just hangs on the error program 
> and offers no means to skip  a defective program and go onto another program 
> and mark the error program yum could take a script once connection were 
> established and  download the missing packages.
>
>
>
>
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Re: tettnang problematical.

[nick G]

I burned them correctly.
Thanks,
Nick
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ace" <ace@tundra-com.net>
To: "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 9:13 AM
Subject: Re: tettnang problematical.


> I hope there are no problems.
> I've seen a lot of posts on this list regarding problems with the Fedora
> Core2 ISOs.
> I have a friend sending me the CDs that he burnt. If they have problems,
> and I have to send him more disks, I'm going to be rather unhappy...
>
> At 02:33 AM 7/2/04, you wrote:
> >hi,
> >I always use wget to retrieve the isos with and i never had problems.
> >Here in South Africa we have some times lines that drop etc.
> >I have downloaded the fedora modified for speakup disks with no problems.
> >
> >
> >On Fri, 2 Jul 2004, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> >
> >>Bad disks that don't burn correctly are often the result of downloads
> >>even after rsync has been used.  I was able to get disc1 and disc2 to
> >>burn properly consistently but never did get disc3 or disc4 to burn
> >>without errors and I used an automated script to do the burns myself I
> >>had rolled. If all you can get good from the site is fedora-core-1
yarrow
> >>I don't advise attempting an upgrade from that version to current.  I
> >>tried that and got four programs in unresolveable dependency chains so I
> >>decide to try installing what disks I can without running into the error
> >>again on disc 3. I figured I could make an initrd at the error
condition;
> >>then reboot, then later do yum install *.  Wrong.  I couldn't get the
> >>ethernet up and connected on the internet.  The fedora installation
> >>doesn't mark a package as a needed install  when it encounters a disk
> >>error, it just hangs on the error program and offers no means to skip  a
> >>defective program and go onto another program and mark the error program
> >>yum could take a script once connection were established and  download
> >>the missing packages.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>_______________________________________________
> >>Speakup mailing list
> >>Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> >>http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
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> >Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> >http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> >
>
> Robby
> ace@tundra-com.net
> Network Administrator -
> irc.talkingirc.com
> http://www.talkingirc.com
>
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There's Nothing Wrong With the Tettnang ISOs

[Janina Sajka]

You can't blame the iso files for bad procedure and improper handling by
users. There have been some very wacky statements on this list about
what people have tried to do. The fact that many others have had no
problems serves as ample testimony to the fact that the published images
are just as they shpould be . To believe otherwise is to believe that
somehow the computer knows who you are and has decided to treat you
mean. That's just downright coo-coo.

Hope has nothing to do it. Proper procedure is everything. At the risk
of repeating myself too often:

1.)	Get a full set of four cd rom images from a single release.
There are frequently more than one release per month, so be careful. You
cannot mix releases. You cannot
DOWNLOAD ONE TODAY, AND THE NEXT ONE NEXT WEEK. tHAT WON'T WORK.

1.)	Don't mix releases. Be careful to get a full set of four images
from the same release. The iso images are updated often, so don't think
you can download one today and the next one next week. There are
frequently more than one update of the Speakup Modified per month. So,
be careful of the dates.

2.)	Run an md5sum check on the files you've downloaded. If all four
files don't pass, there's no point in going further. You must have a
full set from one release that fully pass the md5sum test. No
exceptions.

3.)	After burning CD ROMs, run the md5sum check on each CD ROM disk.
All four must pass md5sum or the install will fail. Don't think you're
smarter than that--or accept your consequences in good grace without
complaining. You get what you deserve if you think you will out fox the
basics.

ace writes:
> I hope there are no problems.
> I've seen a lot of posts on this list regarding problems with the
> Fedora
> Core2 ISOs.
> I have a friend sending me the CDs that he burnt. If they have
> problems,
> and I have to send him more disks, I'm going to be rather unhappy...
>
> At 02:33 AM 7/2/04, you wrote:
> >hi,
> >I always use wget to retrieve the isos with and i never had problems.
> >Here in South Africa we have some times lines that drop etc.
> >I have downloaded the fedora modified for speakup disks with no
> >problems.
>

-- 
	
				Janina Sajka, Chair
				Accessibility Workgroup
				Free Standards Group (FSG)

janina@freestandards.org	Phone: +1 202.494.7040
http://a11y.org

Re: tettnang problematical.

[ace]

I hope there are no problems.
I've seen a lot of posts on this list regarding problems with the Fedora 
Core2 ISOs.
I have a friend sending me the CDs that he burnt. If they have problems, 
and I have to send him more disks, I'm going to be rather unhappy...

At 02:33 AM 7/2/04, you wrote:
>hi,
>I always use wget to retrieve the isos with and i never had problems.
>Here in South Africa we have some times lines that drop etc.
>I have downloaded the fedora modified for speakup disks with no problems.
>
>
>On Fri, 2 Jul 2004, Jude DaShiell wrote:
>
>>Bad disks that don't burn correctly are often the result of downloads 
>>even after rsync has been used.  I was able to get disc1 and disc2 to 
>>burn properly consistently but never did get disc3 or disc4 to burn 
>>without errors and I used an automated script to do the burns myself I 
>>had rolled. If all you can get good from the site is fedora-core-1 yarrow 
>>I don't advise attempting an upgrade from that version to current.  I 
>>tried that and got four programs in unresolveable dependency chains so I 
>>decide to try installing what disks I can without running into the error 
>>again on disc 3. I figured I could make an initrd at the error condition; 
>>then reboot, then later do yum install *.  Wrong.  I couldn't get the 
>>ethernet up and connected on the internet.  The fedora installation 
>>doesn't mark a package as a needed install  when it encounters a disk 
>>error, it just hangs on the error program and offers no means to skip  a 
>>defective program and go onto another program and mark the error program 
>>yum could take a script once connection were established and  download 
>>the missing packages.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>Speakup mailing list
>>Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>>http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
>_______________________________________________
>Speakup mailing list
>Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
>http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>

Robby
ace@tundra-com.net
Network Administrator -
irc.talkingirc.com
http://www.talkingirc.com 

Re: There's Nothing Wrong With the Tettnang ISOs

[nick G]

Something else too.  I learned this the hard way.  If one set of iso's
doesn't work, download the next one when they came out, that's how I got
myne to work.
Thanks,
Nick
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@rednote.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 8:46 AM
Subject: There's Nothing Wrong With the Tettnang ISOs


> You can't blame the iso files for bad procedure and improper handling by
> users. There have been some very wacky statements on this list about
> what people have tried to do. The fact that many others have had no
> problems serves as ample testimony to the fact that the published images
> are just as they shpould be . To believe otherwise is to believe that
> somehow the computer knows who you are and has decided to treat you
> mean. That's just downright coo-coo.
>
> Hope has nothing to do it. Proper procedure is everything. At the risk
> of repeating myself too often:
>
> 1.) Get a full set of four cd rom images from a single release.
> There are frequently more than one release per month, so be careful. You
> cannot mix releases. You cannot
> DOWNLOAD ONE TODAY, AND THE NEXT ONE NEXT WEEK. tHAT WON'T WORK.
>
> 1.) Don't mix releases. Be careful to get a full set of four images
> from the same release. The iso images are updated often, so don't think
> you can download one today and the next one next week. There are
> frequently more than one update of the Speakup Modified per month. So,
> be careful of the dates.
>
> 2.) Run an md5sum check on the files you've downloaded. If all four
> files don't pass, there's no point in going further. You must have a
> full set from one release that fully pass the md5sum test. No
> exceptions.
>
> 3.) After burning CD ROMs, run the md5sum check on each CD ROM disk.
> All four must pass md5sum or the install will fail. Don't think you're
> smarter than that--or accept your consequences in good grace without
> complaining. You get what you deserve if you think you will out fox the
> basics.
>
> ace writes:
> > I hope there are no problems.
> > I've seen a lot of posts on this list regarding problems with the
> > Fedora
> > Core2 ISOs.
> > I have a friend sending me the CDs that he burnt. If they have
> > problems,
> > and I have to send him more disks, I'm going to be rather unhappy...
> >
> > At 02:33 AM 7/2/04, you wrote:
> > >hi,
> > >I always use wget to retrieve the isos with and i never had problems.
> > >Here in South Africa we have some times lines that drop etc.
> > >I have downloaded the fedora modified for speakup disks with no
> > >problems.
> >
>
> -- 
>
> Janina Sajka, Chair
> Accessibility Workgroup
> Free Standards Group (FSG)
>
> janina@freestandards.org Phone: +1 202.494.7040
> http://a11y.org
>
>
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