slackware 12.0

slackware 12.0

[Jude DaShiell]

What may work for that version for speakup install is to install only 
packages that come off of disc1 then use dd -if /kernel/speakup.s -of 
/boot/vmlinuz.  The setup script doesn't ask which kernel to install and 
probably forcibly installs the boot kernel if any even though speakup.s is 
used to do the install.  I tried a full installation and never got disc2 
out to replace it with disc1 so tried this alternate approach this 
afternoon.  I'll try it again and do the last dd -if step and see if I can 
get me something that works.  Real hairy this time.

Re: slackware 12.0

[Zachary Kline]

Hi,
    Perhaps I missed the initial message in this thread, but I was curious 
why you'd need to go through the DD steps and all?
    I just ran the speakup.s install directly.  Granted, I have a hardware 
synthesizer, so that makes a difference.  It just worked for me though--dd 
seems an extremely brute force approach.  I don't like brute force in most 
circumstances.
Hope this helps,
Zack.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jude DaShiell" <jdashiel@shellworld.net>
To: <speakup@braille.uwo.ca>
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 2:48 PM
Subject: slackware 12.0


> What may work for that version for speakup install is to install only
> packages that come off of disc1 then use dd -if /kernel/speakup.s -of
> /boot/vmlinuz.  The setup script doesn't ask which kernel to install and
> probably forcibly installs the boot kernel if any even though speakup.s is
> used to do the install.  I tried a full installation and never got disc2
> out to replace it with disc1 so tried this alternate approach this
> afternoon.  I'll try it again and do the last dd -if step and see if I can
> get me something that works.  Real hairy this time.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
>
> 

Re: slackware 12.0

[Alex Snow]

slackware 12 automatically copies the speakup.s kernel when you boot 
with it so there's no need for any extra work.
On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 
04:48:04PM -0500, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> What may work for that version for speakup install is to install only 
> packages that come off of disc1 then use dd -if /kernel/speakup.s -of 
> /boot/vmlinuz.  The setup script doesn't ask which kernel to install and 
> probably forcibly installs the boot kernel if any even though speakup.s is 
> used to do the install.  I tried a full installation and never got disc2 
> out to replace it with disc1 so tried this alternate approach this 
> afternoon.  I'll try it again and do the last dd -if step and see if I can 
> get me something that works.  Real hairy this time.
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

-- 
I forgot to mention an important fact in the 1.3.67 announcement. In order to 
get a fully working kernel, you have to follow the steps below:
 - Walk around your computer widdershins 3 times, chanting "Linus is
   overworked, and he makes lousy patches, but we love him anyway". Get
   your spuouse to do this too for extra effect.  Children are optional.
 - Apply the patch included in this mail
 - Call your system "Super-67", and don't forget to unapply the patch
   before you later applying the official 1.3.68 patch.
 - reboot
	-- Linus Torvalds, announcing another kernel patch

Re: slackware 12.0

[Adam Myrow]

On Sat, 22 Mar 2008, Alex Snow wrote:

> slackware 12 automatically copies the speakup.s kernel when you boot
> with it so there's no need for any extra work.

Well, when I originally installed from CD, instead of DVD, it tried to 
copy the kernel while disk 2 was in the drive, without prompting me to 
insert disk 1.  So, I ended up having to manually copy it later.  I 
reported this as a bug at the time, and had almost forgotten about it 
until now.  The reason I had used the CD was that my DVD drive had failed. 
It's since been replaced, and I can now use the DVD, so avoid this bug if 
it doesn't get fixed for the next release.

Re: slackware 12.0

[Steve Holmes]

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Come to think of it, I ran into that little bug too.  And like you, I
forgot about it but didn't report it 'cause I wasn't sure if bug or
whatever.  I just copied over the kernel I wanted for future use.  In
the mean time, I recompiled the kernel with my particular
customizations anyway.

Oh, about DVD burning, if I download a DVD image from the Slackware
site or torrent, do you just burn it with the same utility you would
use for CDs? In my case, I use wodim now.  cdrecord turns out to be
trash onmy box now,  I keep getting errors with the drive but if I use
the cdrkit package with geniso and wodim, I get fine results with CDs;
I haven tried DVDs yet.

On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 09:50:06AM -0500, Adam Myrow wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Mar 2008, Alex Snow wrote:
> 
> > slackware 12 automatically copies the speakup.s kernel when you boot
> > with it so there's no need for any extra work.
> 
> Well, when I originally installed from CD, instead of DVD, it tried to 
> copy the kernel while disk 2 was in the drive, without prompting me to 
> insert disk 1.  So, I ended up having to manually copy it later.  I 
> reported this as a bug at the time, and had almost forgotten about it 
> until now.  The reason I had used the CD was that my DVD drive had failed. 
> It's since been replaced, and I can now use the DVD, so avoid this bug if 
> it doesn't get fixed for the next release.
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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Re: slackware 12.0

[Adam Myrow]

I use growisofs to burn a DVD image to the media.  From the man page,
"growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=image.iso."  You would change
"image.iso" to the name of the iso you want to write to DVD.  In my
case, I also had to add "-speed=1" for some reason to get good burns.
You have to have mkisofs, and its associated programs installed, since
growisofs uses it.  There is also a CD burning tool in Gnome, but I've
never tried it.

On Sat, 2008-03-22 at 16:43 -0700, Steve Holmes wrote:
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> 
> Come to think of it, I ran into that little bug too.  And like you, I
> forgot about it but didn't report it 'cause I wasn't sure if bug or
> whatever.  I just copied over the kernel I wanted for future use.  In
> the mean time, I recompiled the kernel with my particular
> customizations anyway.
> 
> Oh, about DVD burning, if I download a DVD image from the Slackware
> site or torrent, do you just burn it with the same utility you would
> use for CDs? In my case, I use wodim now.  cdrecord turns out to be
> trash onmy box now,  I keep getting errors with the drive but if I use
> the cdrkit package with geniso and wodim, I get fine results with CDs;
> I haven tried DVDs yet.
> 
> On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 09:50:06AM -0500, Adam Myrow wrote:
> > On Sat, 22 Mar 2008, Alex Snow wrote:
> > 
> > > slackware 12 automatically copies the speakup.s kernel when you boot
> > > with it so there's no need for any extra work.
> > 
> > Well, when I originally installed from CD, instead of DVD, it tried to 
> > copy the kernel while disk 2 was in the drive, without prompting me to 
> > insert disk 1.  So, I ended up having to manually copy it later.  I 
> > reported this as a bug at the time, and had almost forgotten about it 
> > until now.  The reason I had used the CD was that my DVD drive had failed. 
> > It's since been replaced, and I can now use the DVD, so avoid this bug if 
> > it doesn't get fixed for the next release.
> > 
> > 
> > _______________________________________________
> > Speakup mailing list
> > Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> > http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup
> 
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Re: slackware 12.0

[Alex Snow]

Yeah, there's a bug in the installer that fails to eject the cd after 
packages are copied from disk 2.  I found though that when you get the 
error that it can't copy the kernel, if you swap cds right then (you 
may have to umount the cd and remount it after the swap), then press 
enter, it copies everything just fine.  THis took me a while to get 
past when I first installed slackware 12...
On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 
09:50:06AM -0500, Adam Myrow wrote:
> On Sat, 22 Mar 2008, Alex Snow wrote:
> 
> > slackware 12 automatically copies the speakup.s kernel when you boot
> > with it so there's no need for any extra work.
> 
> Well, when I originally installed from CD, instead of DVD, it tried to 
> copy the kernel while disk 2 was in the drive, without prompting me to 
> insert disk 1.  So, I ended up having to manually copy it later.  I 
> reported this as a bug at the time, and had almost forgotten about it 
> until now.  The reason I had used the CD was that my DVD drive had failed. 
> It's since been replaced, and I can now use the DVD, so avoid this bug if 
> it doesn't get fixed for the next release.
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Speakup mailing list
> Speakup@braille.uwo.ca
> http://speech.braille.uwo.ca/mailman/listinfo/speakup

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re: slackware 12.0

[Jude DaShiell]

I did a little more experimentation with that version of slackware.  I 
found out it's not necessary to copy the speakup kernel onto the system so 
long as you do an install with only packages from the first disc.  If 
speakup is specified on the boot line and slackware finds it that's what 
slackware puts on the system without asking.  This is officially a bug and 
will be fixed in the next version most likely.  The installation is 
supposed to happen the way it's documented on http://slackbook.org.  Once 
the installation gets finished on disc1 and a boot into the new system has 
happened it's no problem to mount disc2 and run installpkg in the package 
subdirectories from disc2 to install any missing packages.  That's the way 
I got around that installation bug. Unfortunately my combination of 
monitor card slackware doesn't support so I can go as far as text only 
until a better card gets found.  What I have is an NVidia geforce 3410 
card and no color depth setting is correct for that card with a Gateway 
EV-910 Monitor and this version of slackware.  The good news is that's the 
only fatal found in Xorg.0.log when I try configuring and running 
xwindows.  I have a trident vga card in an older computer I may try later 
this week to see if I can get past this error and get gnome installed on 
slackware.  The flavor of gnome I have has orca available in it for 
slackware too.